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Assange Calls For Obama's Resignation If Confirmed President Approved UN Spy Ring
When we first heard of the latest Wikileaks "cablegate" fiasco, we speculated that Hillary Clinton may be forced to resign for what is rapidly becoming the biggest crisis for US foreign policy since the Bay of Pigs. Today, in an interview with Spanish El Pais, Julian Assange goes one better and says that if it is proven that he approved the spying on UN officials, then Obama should resign. As a reminder as per one of the released cables, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
asked for UN personnel's telephones, emails, credit card details and
frequent flier numbers. Let's recall that Nixon resigned to avoid impeachment under somewhat comparable circumstances. The only difference is that back then Woodward and Berstein were not on the receiving end of what is becoming an endless barrage of death threats for doing their journalistic duty. This time around, the "deep throat" is the target of an international witch hunt, where however is moot: the early attempt by the like of Joe Lieberman to censor the internet is doomed from the beginning. However, it does show that in the past 40 years little has changed at the top echelons of power when the sordid truth of "Standard Operating Procedures" are revealed. And, unfortunately, things have only gotten worse. Also, keep in mind that Wikileaks has so far released only a small fraction of the 250,000 cables that will ultimately be declassified by Wiki. One wonders just how long the world can maintain the damage control before foreign relations between both friends and enemies are terminally frayed.
More from AFP:
"The whole chain of command who was aware of this order, and approved it, must resign if the US is to be seen to be a credible nation that obeys the rule of law. The order is so serious it may well have been put to the president for approval," Julian Assange told Spanish daily El Pais.
"Obama must answer what he knew about this illegal order and when. If he refuses to answer or there is evidence he approved of these actions, he must resign," he added during an Internet chat interview published online.
WikiLeaks threw US diplomacy into chaos when it started releasing more than 250,000 classified State Department cables on November 28, creating an international firestorm as American diplomats' private assessments of foreign leaders and politics have been publicly aired.
According to one of the documents, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asked for UN personnel's telephones, emails, credit card details and frequent flier numbers.
The United States and other governments said the release of the documents broke their laws.
Assange gave the interview to El Pais on Saturday from an undisclosed location. The 39-year-old Australian is believed to be in Britain, and a report said he could be arrested this week.
To be sure, life for Wikileaks over the weekend has gotten progressively more difficult: first Paypal rolled over, and agreed to stop all Wikileaks transactions, and now even the site's last bastion: it's Swiss hosted site wikileaks.ch, is intermittently off and on.
He said WikiLeaks had "dozens" of people who were helping the organisation deal with the cyber-attack and set up the mirror websites "but it takes a lot of time for us to manage the process".
"We are automating that process and will soon have hundreds. If there is a battle between the US military and the preservation of History, we have insured History will win."
Assange said he and others who work for WikiLeaks had received "hundreds" of "specific" death threats from "US military militants".
Oddly enough, despite broad speculation that the British authorities are well aware of where Assange is located, his arrest has so far been elusive, making many wonder just what is contained in the 1.4 gigabyte file floating in torrentspace, which is considered to be Assange's prison insurance...
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Last night Thomas Jefferson shot Adam Neira in his pajamas. What Neira was doing in Thomas Jefferson's pajamas, we'll never know.
Careful sunshine...
Unlike Neira's, Thomas Jefferson's agenda was not the protection of illegitimate Jewish power in the Western world.
I wonder if Thomas Jefferson read "Guide for the Perplexed" ? Did he have any opinion on the Twelfth Article of Faith ?
The US Constitution is a remarkable document.
Uh, Adam? Obama is like Grant taking on Lee? Really? He has "a steady hand on the till of world affairs"? Well that's good to know, because here I was thinking he was a rank amatuer out of his depth in anything but a faculty lounge or community organizing office. I'll sleep much better now. Childlike, in fact.
[He has "a steady hand on the till of world affairs"? Well that's good to know, because here I was thinking he was a rank amatuer out of his depth in anything but a faculty lounge or community organizing office. I'll sleep much better now. Childlike, in fact.]---Pining for the ...
Pining, thanks for saying what I was thinking!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
OMFG I just spewed my Coke!
Dude, I'm not a huge Julian Assange fan, either, but don't pull the Baghdad Bob act on me, OK?
Obama has less credibility domestically or internationally right now than Saddam Hussein did when Baghdad was swarming with American tanks.
I was just contemplating the difference between Till and Tiller.
If he is keeping his hand on the tiller, that is one thing, but if his hand in on the till (or in it), thats really rather something else again...
Thank you for the correction. I am quite busy and sometimes make small spelling or grammatical mistakes.
Go to bed Adam, it's past your bedtime.
Guess Adam never heard Reagan: "Trust, BUT VERIFY!"
Secrecy in service to our country and the rule of law is one thing, secrecy in the service of criminal behavior can never be tolerated. These people serve their country and their citizens and expect them to follow the laws they write. Can not the people expect any less of their leaders?
You need some serious help little boy. Milestones
Your mockery has been noted. Can you provide your real name to this august forum ? (If not I have other options...) Anonymous posters should be banned from the net. Cheapens the whole place.
ADAM: said:
25 junks so far! Amazing amount of interest stirred up...ha ha ha...
"" confidences can be betrayed at the click of a mouse they are loathe risking authentic connections with others. I'm sure that Mr.Assange and his associates have a problem with the word "sovereignty". We actually need more respect for intellectual property and healthy boundaries everywhere right now,""
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1288/8812033.htm
"Gentlemen don't read other people's mail," an Idealistic American official exclaimed between World Wars I and II as he abolished US cryptographic counterintelligence programs. Times change, however, and some letters by or to other people are as Informative for our readers as anything we might write ourselves.
Yes, we ALL know this principle, indeed applicable amongst 'gentlemen"
http://www.englishdaily626.com/high_school_english_essays.php?422 ; and we ALL know, also, the OTHER general principle "Power corrupts, infinite power corrupts infinitley
http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/history/historian/Lord_Acton.html
So, lets orient ourselves HERE, in the 'new, new normal' there are no "Gentlemen" existing in positions of influence/power, there are ONLY in varying degrees, scoundrels, criminals, salesmen, lawyers (hired guns), and the like...and YES WE DO, MUST 'read their mail'...INDEED for them, NO secret agreements, DISAVOWED, disowned....it was 'secret agreements' that contributed to the inevitability of WW1...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerprinzip
http://histclo.com/youth/youth/org/nat/hitler/prin/hj-prin.htm
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/202210/fascism/219375/The-lead...
so, it is, with the current set of 'leaders', NECESSARY to make public what THEY have done in OUR NAME, to which WE the citizens would never have agreed....
AND then, bypassing our corrupt criminal justice system...
.TERMINATE..on a one for one, not 'eye for an eye' but simply, as a surgeon-doctor emotionlessly removing diseased organs...a process of 'doing good'..which will be thankless, unappreciated, and will likely result in the doctors personal death...so what?
Please never post again.
Some good and valid points couched in an analog that caused immediate rejection.
Populism is boring.
Is an analog anything like an analogy...?
Sometimes it is worth keeping your mouth shut and risk being thought a fool...
rather than opening it and removing all doubt.
people would trust the government alot more if the government had earned that trust. but man, the last ten years especially have been just full of lies, corruption and propaganda. we are being manipulated too much, not too little.
+1416!! Well said!
Interesting. I've given up trying to figure out if WL is a intel program or not. I'm just going to watch what happens and I've certainly not forgotten about the other critical issues in the world. So if that was the intent of a Psyops campaign it failed. This is a really interesting shadow play though one must admit!
This just appeared on the radar...
Just might be "dee trut"
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/27/gordon-duff-wikileak-predictions...
if that were true would you have lieberman trying to shut it down?
the people who see a conspiratorial psy-op(for whichever secret agenda, israel, soros, cia) in wikileaks ought to come out with more then just claims.
i find it reassuring that ron paul is supporting assange.
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/rep-ron-paul-wikileaks-should-not...
Lew Rockwell and Judge Napolitano are also supporting Assange.
That's a half-wit statement.
Pro-free speech and information for all, not pro-JA and WikiLeaks per se, you half-wit.
Which specific passages in the articles cited (which call the Wikileaks efforts "brave" and "bold") led you to that conclusion?
Additionally, do you believe that your style of debate is convincing to those reading this who might be undecided about Assange and Wikileaks?
No, this is easier. Show me explicit support. Quotations from Paul or Napolitano defending Assange or WL, explicity, over their usual support of freedom of speech and open dissemination of information.
What could be easier than reviewing the links I already posted? One is a video which gives Ron Paul's quote. One of the talking heads on CNN called him Marvin the Martian for his support of Wikileaks. Much like you called me a Martian for my support of Wikileaks. Fascist minds think alike, I suppose.
www.wikileaks.nl
www.powned.tv/wikileaks
Still up.
lol resign surely you jest! If W gets two terms and comes out and boldly talks about his crimes then why on God's green earth should we expect anyone to resign or any hint of personal decency? Nixon was a whole different age. The America of today and the early 70s don't seem to be that much alike. I wasn't alive then but pretty sure some old timers can comment on the character of America and her people then vs now.
As to foreign relations, come on. I'm 100% positive is is not news to most nations. Wow Americans are spying on then, well duh! Americans look down on everyone including their allies, sounds about right. Insulting to everyone, par. Come on it's not like the US acted all that different publicly then we did in the cable leaks. Assuming these nations have ANY intelligence assets or political analysts this would not be hard to guess at.
Richard Nixon believed that he could ride out the storm and retain power right up until a group of Republican senators went to his office and told him to his face that the votes were there and that he would surely be impeached and convicted.
I think that if Barry and the American people are cool with everything he's done openly to date, he should just whip it out and piss on Assange on TV just to reinforce our recognition of the actual concern Barry has for either appearances or right and wrong.
I worked for the Canadian military and with about a mid to high clearance level I saw nice little Canada was spying on its friends too. People do what they think they can get away with. For premeditated actions, sane intelligent people are deterred by the risk of getting caught if there are negative consequences.
Not quite buying wikileaks. For example, as Chomsky points out, last week a report came out that cancer rates in Falluja are 3800 times what would normally be expected. Abu Ghraib, torture, and other IMPEACHABLE offenses are constantly being exposed and yet life goes on as usual for those culpable. Ole, GW came out and said, "DAMN RIGHT, I ORDERED TORTURE." Same thing goes for the unbelievable amount of fraud perpetrated by the banksters. The Sec sought national security status for AIG details and yet NO ONE HAS GONE TO JAIL. But, to get to my topic sentence, so far the wikileaks "cablegate" are JUST WEAK in comparison to the REAL SHIT THAT HAPPENS DAILY.
It seems as if the outrage has to do with the capacity of low level diplomatic communication being exposed. Given the stink and the general attack on freedom of speech, journalism, and web censorship, it seems as if wikileaks is accomplishing more for censorship than any other end. So, Mr. Assange, give us something that FORCES HEADS TO ROLL.
Toxic legacy of US assault on Fallujah 'worse than Hiroshima'http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/toxic-legacy-of-us-assault-on-fallujah-worse-than-hiroshima-14889476.html
I think it is a psyop "Back Burn" operation to accomplish Net Censorship.
Your points are spot on.
Can't control the Leaks?
BE the leaks.
Couldn't any whistle-blowing operation lead to government calls for censorship? Perhaps we should all just shut up. It's the only way to ensure our right to freedom of speech.
No No No, I am hoping that it is on the level. LOVE the concept. I just wish the things exposed were a little more earth shattering. Something that most of us readers HAVEN'T seen/know just using Google.
Something with a little more gravity than high school level email backstabbing snipes etc.
BUT, I am reticent about taking hook line and sinker. MANY MANY things are a foot. MANY things being Played out.
Just Being careful of not being Played.
Did you know that the US was bribing nations to go along with a pro Global Warming agenda? It was news to me.
As for the unexciting nature of many of the cables don't fail to recall the banality of evil.
I would be shocked to learn that the US wasn't bribing everyone they encountered.
In fact, the reason we encoutered them was to bribe them.
Do you really believe that reviewing actual proof of a crime should be avoided by those who have suspected the crime?
If you sat on a jury would you say, "Show me no evidence. I always suspected that the defendant was guilty although I had no proof. Anyone who shows me evidence of the guilt of the man I think is guilty is a bad person?"
Now that's what I call a non-sequitur.
Of course you would. Because you just learned the word and you're still struggling with its proper usage.
LOL
Now that's what I call poor communication skills.
Really? Actual?
Your question is from a Martian pretending to be human.
Yeah, you got me. I'm the token Martian on the Mossad staff. Assange is the token Venusian.
I knew it!!
We kept telling him to do something about his alien mop but you know how stubborn Venusians can be.
My burritos will burn if I keep responding to your BS.
Adieu.
Ding Ding Ding!
We have a WINNER!
Your Netlock will available very soon.
It solves all the problems at the same time for TPTB.
Wanna buy silver or gold without a network link to em?
Want to find out what is going on and talk about it?
Want to make plans to either avoid or counter what is happeneing?
Want me to keep going?
Its Martial Law without the fuss and its a perfect Back Burn.
They took years of careful management to get it to this point.
If we keep encouraging downloads, we we get butt-gaped soon.
Just Watch.
BLACK SWAN ALERT.
Take some deep breaths and collect yourself, man.
Leave something for the boogie man to do to you in reality.
Your'e right.
I should just sit back and watch it unfold.
You've already admitted you're armed and trained, stiffen that spine, put your head on a swivel, and stay frosty!
Huh?
What chu talking about?
Get your timeline correct, then it all makes sense. All the threats and ddos attacks started AFTER Assange announced they were going to bring down a major bank or two early next year. TPTB don't give a good crap about the State Department; they're worried which banks may be the target.
We already know about the banks. The fact of the matter is that the SEC, CFTC AG, and ultimately chief law enforcer of the land, OBAMA have done NOTHING. ZERO, NADA. ZILCH. In fact, while MBS fraud was exploding AG place Holder came out and said they'd be clamping down on WEED SMOKERS in California. Now, if there isn't enough data to take the banks down on any number of fronts, well shit, I don't ever see them being prosecuted.
How about this headline.
Banks Financing Mexico Gangs Admitted in Wells Fargo Deal
Wachovia admitted it didn’t do enough to spot illicit funds in handling $378.4 billion for Mexican-currency-exchange houses from 2004 to 2007. That’s the largest violation of the Bank Secrecy Act, an anti-money-laundering law, in U.S. history -- a sum equal to one-third of Mexico’s current gross domestic product.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html
When a fraction of that dinero ends up in the AG's pocket, how can you be surprised by this?
Nothing is going to force heads to roll. The system creates a class that conspires to rule the people. These people won't do self flagelation. They'll go through 400,000 rounds a day practicing shooting people in every police force and army barracks on the planet. They'll hone their skills to survive a fight with their citizens or any sheep who support anyone who goes against them. And that is all they'll do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJGjDoxoNM8&feature=related
The army has one rule. Judge us as right or die. They won't be made wrong until they are killed and can't put guns to the historians heads.
Yep.
Not quite buying wikileaks. For example, as Chomsky points out...
You're buying Chomsky? He's like the Perry Como of dissidents.
It all makes sense. You see... the United States gubmint has morphed into a fascist state.
http://www.csper.org/
No way out, so fuck it. Have a drink.
the idea behind what assange is doing is that if the government and the powers that be have to conduct business with more secrecy, that will weaken and slow down their ability to conspire against the people. you can read about it here.
http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-and-the-comput...
anything which ron paul supports and lieberman, obama, the pentagon and newt gingrich oppose, sounds like a good idea to me.
A real-life James Bond movie!
Assange sounds like a prima donna.
As an American, I don't give a crap what this guy thinks our leaders should do. So a fey European from some impotent country is critizing the US. That's like the sun coming up in the morning.
Assange is not European. Do you often make comments about things which you don't understand?
I understand him as well as I need to.
Of course you do. Best to remain consistently ill informed.
And best for you to keep your tongue buried up Assange's a-hole just because he's saying things you like to hear.
You're projecting your own desire to plug Assange's leaks.
he isnt even european. thats the problem right there. ignorance.
Ha ha ha! What a tit!
It's true, Australia is the capital of europeland. Who are you? George Dubya?
This is sounding more and more like a Robert Ludlum novel.
Fascinating stuff.
But ES futures remain unfazed, only a stone's throw from new highs.
ROBOTrader posted S&P against COT in corn5000:
hum, interesting, i thought seasonality would be way too much noise to make a COT/SP500 comparison...well i don't really KNOW a lot of financial/technical things, eh? noted that the Commercial corn hedgers, and S&P synchronized to within 24 hours on 1 July...
Assume the corn hedgers represent commodity inflation expectation, WHICH went flat line by Oct....i would guess the S&P pricing might reflect this lowering of inflated inflation expectation,in other words...THATS IT FOLKS, the TOP...for a few months anyway S&P will NOTgo BEYOND the previous HIGH..??
just for insurance, how about a visit from monica lewinsky!
Ken Starr raped a Swede. No, two! It was two Swedes he raped.
People I know who didn't know anything about wikileaks are now very interested about wikileaks... :)
We all want the power to change our world... but realize the futility of tilting at windmills... especially with the 'too big to fails' and 'our oligarch-type government'... so what Assange has done is remarkable... and inspiring... and gives hope that perhaps one determined person can make a difference!!!
MinnesotaNice to see you. Miles will get a kick too, hope Howard Beale is out and about. We see deadhead every now and again. Hope you keep posting.
I don't know what I think. I see it as a possible disinformation program of some kind, and it is possible that the leakage is what it seems to be. But then again, I am open to a fault at times. I do think people can make a real difference locally. I have had the privilege to see it personally.
If all of us can be happy with less and if we could take down the corrupt powers that be, we stand a chance. But even under those optimal circumstances, it will still be formidable.
We will need to figure out how to respond to the higher calling with our best possible selves cued up, at the ready.
Peace.
Hi MsCreant... I've been hanging around in the shadows... reading the articles and comments. Miles, Mr. Beale and Deadhead... it's been a while hasn't it :-)
A disinformation program... that is an interesting thought... you really never know do you... I'll have to roll that around in my brain. But it certainly has shaken up the entire landscape of world politics... it is a modern day David and Goliath story. I am tempted to make a donation to Assange's cause... just so my name can go onto a McCarthy-like list :-)
But what mystifies me is why hasn't Assange been arrested... that should have happened days ago since we live in a time when powerful world leaders can make things happen with a snap of their fingers... and he is still out there doing in-your-face interviews... he really is something... I like it!
The charges against Assange are rather vacuous. Perhaps his enemies find it better to have him seen as a pervert on the run rather than a man quickly cleared of false charges.
Yep... you are probably right... the 'powers that be' probably realizes that the perception of one pervert on the run is worth way more than one martyr in jail :-)
I thought I read somehwere that the 'revolution will not be televised'. Yet, Assange manages to make the front cover of Time magazine.
I have no agenda, other than help you see thru the BS.
NASA Rover Finds Clue to Mars' Past And Environment for Life
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/news/mer20100603.html
carbonate minerals - example carbonates: Encyclopedia - Carbon dioxide sink
A carbon dioxide sink or CO2 sink is a carbon reservoir that is increasing in size, and is the opposite of a carbon "source". The main sinks are the oceans and growing vegetation. The concept has become more widely known through its application by the Kyoto Protocol . Carbon sequestration is the term describing processes that remove carbon from the biosphere. A variety of means of artificially capturing and storing carbon, as well as of enhancing natural sequestration processes, are being explored. This ...
Including:Read more here: » Carbon dioxide sink: Encyclopedia - Carbon dioxide sink
Who wants to impose taxes to make a buck? Start with the banks and go down the pecking order. Have a look who is bailing. One piece of toilet paper is not enough.
Sheryl “One Square” Crow
http://sherylcrowauction.com/
All just food for thought.
This has been a perfect carbon sink discovered here on Earth, but it's existence is being covered up. It's abundant and has been called "Pale Flint"
Pale Flint not only consumes CO2, it emits proportionate amounts of pure Oxygen. Remarkably, the more CO2 there is, the more CO2 it can absorb. It is free, replenishable and it's supply is virtually inexhaustible. And TPTB never tell you about it!
"Pale Flint" = anagram for "Plant Life"
Bingo
WRONG! If Martians would of had a carbon tax they never would of had to build spaceships to travel to earth.
Everytime you post I think of Mel Brooks :)
Atomizer and CO2:
...well...great pre-face....
is that it? i'd bet that most of the zh readers actually do have a pretty good grasp of the chemical/physical facts regards the carbon cycle in the Earth System...
are you gonna go somewhere with this...or is THAT part all self evident to you?
the hard part is what you have left out, theres nothing obvious nor easy about it...
I think Julian Assange is blowing this out of proportion. Don't must of us assume that various countries are all spying on each other. Isn't that what intelligence agencies do?
Yes, everybody is breaking the law. Therefore, one's actions are out of proportion if one suggests that the law be followed. Makes perfect sense.
Like I said: Stick to your fucking blog.
(this is fun)
Yes, it is fun. And it sets up a sharp contrast between the type of person who thinks clearly and speaks precisely and one who flails wildly about in an effort to compensate for lack of substance. I really would have thought that you'd pretend to be more diligent and better informed, however. Sloppy is as sloppy does, I suppose.
Clarity! Substance! Better informed!
Your posts lack most of these items.
You cannot demonstrate explicit backing of Julian Assange on behalf of Paul or Napolitano (nor have you tried).
Your scant links do not support your strawman efforts.
You demonstrate amazing tenacity for backing WL without any real substance. Oh, I forgot the soap and using Google to post links to Pali websites.
FAIL
Paul and Napolitano have each made statements which support Assange's right to leak the documents in question.
You have not presented a single piece of evidence showing that Julian Assange is an Israeli spy. You have instead joined pro-Israeli politicians in disparaging Assange.
If I had evidence showing JA is an Israeli spy I wouldn't be posting it here, you fuckwit. I've upgraded you to DEFCON fuckwit because you obviously are not stupid.
Just as Assange has joined Bibi and the rest of the Likud chorus in the meme that ratcheting up the anti-Iran sentiment will help achieve peace. Are we to believe this clown Assange really imagines that the Middle Eastern despots that are the focus of the leaks represent the opinions of their people?
Why does Wikileaks need millions in funding, and why would they look to CIA front groups (e.g., NED, CFR, Freedomhouse) for it?
http://cryptome.org/wikileaks/wikileaks-leak.htm
http://cryptome.org/wikileaks/wikileaks-leak2.htm
How did shoestring startup Wikileaks pop out of nowhere with access to a claimed 1.1 million documents before they were even launched? That fact alone has intelligence agency written all over it.
ratcheting up the anti-Iran sentiment
This leaked cable supports Iran:
Wikileaks: US Spy Plane in YemenIn the spring of 2007, the Yemen media reported that their government had shot down an Iranian spy plane. It is now apparent that this was a cover story for a US spy plane washing ashore in Yemen.
The ghost of tricky Dick disagrees.
Pause alert... The Ben Bernank currently stuttering on 60 minutes. Inflation "officially" too low after looking at it "very, very carefully"... convinces douchebag money supply not increasing. He looks forward to the "unwind" following the "recovery".
Ben is stuttering? Is he talkin' 'bout his generation of mountains of worthless dollars?
[In the chorus, dancing my best go-go dancer shimmy]: "Talking bout my generation."
If Assange gets people killed because of his leaks he is no better than the ones he complains about.
If he had any real balls, he'd leak on the Iranians, Chinese, and Russians already. Waiting.
Wikileaks has been releasing documents from other nations for years. So what the hell are you waiting for, genius?
True, but not all nations...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/27/gordon-duff-wikileak-predictions...
Yeah, that opinion piece makes some fine interpretations of inaccurate observations. I'd be embarrassed to reveal my gullibility by linking to it if I were you.
Would you please give an example or two of what you feel are innaccurate
observations that are far enough off the mark so as to taint the entire thrust of the posting?
Assange's attorney has publicly stated that the British authorities know where Assange is located. Assange's whereabouts are only being kept hidden from the press and public to protect against the acts of individuals who may wish to do him harm.
The author of the article not only does not know this publicized fact but goes on to theorize that the only possible reason for Assange to have remained free thus far is intervention by Israel. There is no evidence for this and follows from no logical argument. It's pure delusion.
I disagree. Those in political power should fear the rule of law and possibly the death penalty with it.
that's the whole idea of law...and that's what it is, just an idea
Yes and Seiu should organize in China And North Korea
I bet the insurance file contains proof about who planned and ordered 9/11.
press your rewind button. Start with Enron first.
Gee, maybe we'll finally know what happened to JFK...........
Remember the Maine!
And just WHO sold that peashooter to J.W. Booth, hmm?
Would be like finding the golden ticket in the bloody NWO Wonka bar. I would most certainly need to break into song and go dancing about the street to cheesy brass n strings.
Neat! After that can we do a number from Oliver?
"Consider yourself at 'ome, consider youself part a' the furniture..."
Has anyone read the more minute details behind the case against Assange emanating from Sweden ? The whole affair is a farce . There would appear to be little or no credibility at all in the allegations . Which leads to the fairly plausible conclusion that the charges are merely an excuse to detain Assange and render him susceptible to numerous extraditions ( how many countries would love to get their hands on him ? )
I heard that it all stems from a broken condom. Talk about your Wikileaks.
"One wonders just how long the world can maintain the damage control before foreign relations between both friends and enemies are terminally frayed."
We are Americans when have we ever cared about anybody else?
We are Americans when have we ever cared about anybody else?
Come on now, let's be fair. Hardly a week goes by without the US bombing some small nation into a prosperous and democratic land.
Not to mention American aid to Indonesia
And wher would N. korea be without The USA
Seoul South Korea That is where they would be. And Seoul would be a dump
And sending American boys to die for South Korea makes you a patriot? Well, maybe a South Korean patriot.
Thank God Eisenhower got us out of that hell hole.
Yes Ike Did
And Rumor has it that he told China, who was just like N. Korea In 1953, that if they did not stop at the 38th parallel, a few nukes would find there way to China
So we stopped China's agression until Vietnam
Would it not have been better if the US had backed Ho Chi Minh and an independent Vietnam as he requested rather than supporting the French colonial return after World War II? Ho Chi Minh worked with the Americans against the occupying Japanese and after the war he incorporated our Declaration of Independence into his speeches.
But Truman sold him down the river to satisfy De Gaulle and eventually 58,000 US GIs died for that policy. Very patriotic, indeed.
Funny how your love for America always leads to Americans dying for the corrupt governments of foreign nations. You must be proud.
and so after Ho won he fought a war with China. Oh well, so much for the International Communist Conspiracy
I think the best is yet to come....Hillary resign no way if bonehead can get away with all what he did and write a book about it and not get sent up to sing sing then she has nothing to worry about.....would like to see more though reads like a spy novel...I can hear Mishael saying to O.B. ( when the next dump of the files show up) ...who shit there pants.
Assange has got the biggest set of brass balls I have ever seen. He has stood toe to toe with the most powerful gov't's in the world and reduced them to sniffling idiots. Calling for his assassination just proves what a house of cards these gov't's live in. If this comes tumbling down and I must admit to a bit of fear if it does, it may be the best thing that has happened to the world in 70 years. Freedom restored, justice prevails and gov't's once again shown for the evil they truly are
It's called theater. Different puppet, same master.
"That's the way to do it!"
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Oh waiter, do bring me another scotch - double, neat.
Assange has got the biggest set of brass balls
Agree with you -- He is a super Tyler Druden
Brass? I guessing they're made of weapons grade plutonium. Which explains why his containment is necessary for our security and also the complaint about the broken condom.
It's now a circus, get yer popcorn here, popcorn!
Headline:
Obama: "he should be punished"
Assange: "he should resign"
So whatever happened to Assange being under imminent arrest?
where's the drawn out drama in that?
Next twist: Assange gets kidnapped by the Mossad, only to be "rescued" by Iranian "Freedom Fighters" (or is that the other way round?)
I go back and forth on the psyop angle but mostly it just seems to me that JA and his people are really much too intelligent to be intelligence assets. They seem to be playing a pretty deep Sun Tsu-esque game while the CIA are the guys who came up with the idea of air dropping xtra large condoms over Iraqi troop positions labeled "made in USA" to demoralize them. (weird, psycho frat boy bullshit as opposed to scary serious).
Hillary has been proportionately misrepresented.
is that hillary nutcracker available on ebay yet?...
littlebuddy, you are way too cute. I have a cat sleeping on my lap as I type. He owns me. I am but a servant to the cuteness.
Same here. Must be a copycat.
Yep, about 30 bucks. Such a deal.
According to one of the documents, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asked for UN personnel's telephones, emails, credit card details and frequent flier numbers.
Give me a break. I'm no fan of Hillary but I find it hard to get worked up about this.
But just so you know - I have asked for a convertible AND a blond...
I know ZH et al really wants this Wikileaks thing to be a BIG FUCKING DEAL but to believe that you have to pretend it's the old days (Nixon!) and that the US actually has a president who cares about advancing US interests (either via fair play or dirty tricks) on the world stage. That kind of soooo isn't the case right now.
Who thinks Obama even believes that the US of A should be a sovereign nation state at all?
Hilary is blond. Careful what you ask for.
I hate Obama and hopes he rots in hell. With that said if Hitlerly has once again abused her power to illegally spy on people she should go to jail.
MS Klintoon had 500 plus FBI files in the WH during her husbands tenure as rapist in chief. This is not in dispute. The files were in the WH and she directly accessed them. She was guilty then so I expect she is probably guilty now.
She got a pass then. This is another example of her insane pursuit of power for power being exposed for all to see once again.
Hillary Clinton is liar, a thief, and clearly believes she is above the law.
Hillary needs to be arrested and charged for her crimes not Barry this time.
Well said.
Hmmm... as opposed to 'Legally' spying on people...
That could be quite a semantics battle.
i bet ZH is breathing a sigh of relief that they got stood up by wikileaks as a potential partner