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"Buy A Gun" Google Queries Hit All Time High, And Other Off The Grid Economic Indicators
In lieu of a credible macroeconomic data reporting infrastructure in America, increasingly more people are forced to resort to secondary trend indicators, most of which have zero economic "credibility" within the mainstream, yet which provide just as good a perspective of what may be happening behind the scenes in this once great country. A good example was a recent Gallup poll, which contrary to all expectations based on a now completley irrelvant and thoroughly discredited ADP number, which led some br(j)okers such as the Barclays Insane Predictions Team to speculate a 580,000 NFP number was in the books, indicated that the jobless situation barely improved in December. Sure enough, this was promptly confirmed by the January 7 NFP number. And so, in looking for a variety of other "off the grid" economic indicators we read a recent report by Nicholas Colas, which proves to us that we are not the only 'nerdy' entity out there increasingly searching for metrics that have some rooting in reality, and not in the FASB-BLS-Census Bureau joint ventured never-never land. And while we recreate the key points from the report, the one item that should be highlighted is that, as we have suspected for a while, the social undertow of fear, skepticism and anger is coming to a boil, as Google queries of the "Buy A Gun" search querry have just hit an all time high. How much of this is due to the recent events from Tucson, AZ is unclear. What is clear is that the trend is most certainly not your friend (unless you are of course the CEO of Smith and Wesson).
We'll leave the interpretation of this chart to our very erudite politicians.
As for other must read observations on the topic of derivative economic indicators, we present Nicholas Colas' must read latest: "Off The Grid” Economic Indicators – Q410 Edition
There are a lot of economic indicators out there, and we pay attention to all of them because government decision makers have told us they shape economic policy. But there’s a wealth of independently developed economic and statistical data available as well, and much of it provides much-needed color on the real state of the U.S. economy. Our collection of anecdotal datapoints, which we have dubbed the “Off The Grid” indicators, paint a more nuanced picture of a slow growth U.S. economy that is still struggling with the aftermath of the Financial Crisis. Bullish points include demand for pickup trucks, used cars and an increasing number of people who leave their jobs voluntarily instead of through layoff. Bearish points are headlined by still-rising food stamp participation, with gun sales and rampant buying of silver coins underpinning continued popular concerns over personal security and the soundness of the dollar. Food inflation also features on this list. Neutral points: mutual fund inflows (but potentially turning positive) and Gallup poll consumer spending.
Ever wonder where the word “Nerd” came from? It’s a “nerdy” question, to be sure, but apparently it comes from a Dr. Seuss book entitled “If I Ran the Zoo.” I don’t remember the appearance of the word from my early exposure to the work, but I certainly remember the opening:
“If I ran the zoo,”
Said young Gerald McGrew
“I’d make a few changes,
That’s just what I’d do.”
That’s pretty much the way I feel about the current state of economic indicators that we all pick apart, analyze, and try to cajole into some form of investable signal every day. We look at them because the Federal Reserve looks at them. And the Treasury. And the White House. And every other seat of economic power. But in reality they look at them because these datasets have been around long enough that someone, somewhere, has done a doctoral dissertation or other academic treatise validating their relevance.
In the world of automated and computerized payrolls, for example, the Bureau of Labor Statistics still uses a telephone survey of a few thousand households to decide if employment is rising or falling. OK, this used to be a hard issue to tackle in the 1950s and 1960s. But the U.S. Treasury’s Internal Revenue Service tracks everyone’s contributions for payroll and tax withholding in real time now. If someone stops getting their paycheck, Treasury knows about it by the time of their next pay cycle. They can identify where the person works based on their zip code. The employment picture should be clear as day using this data. It used to be hard when paychecks doubled as computer punchcards (my Dad had those in the 1970s). The telephone survey approach is like using a horse and buggy to get around when there are the keys to a perfectly good Ferrari in your pocket.
All good natured ranting aside, there’s no excuse for not casting a wider net when it comes to the never-ending search for useful economic data. And you don’t need to be a “nerd” (there’s that word again) to get it – we aren’t talking about advanced language algorithms working against a Twitter API feed. The data is out there and thanks to the Internet it is pretty easy to track. That’s the reason we have developed our “Off the Grid” economic indicators – our “eyes” into the real U.S. economy. And those “eyes,” we hope, are truly the windows into the soul of some form of lasting recovery.
Our take away from this quarter’s indicators is that the recovery in the U.S. economy is slow and unevenly distributed, with several long-tailed effects that may take decades to fully understand.
- The bad news – and there’s still plenty of it – is that the Financial Crisis pushed millions of Americans into government assistance programs such as Food Stamps, dampened their confidence in the currency, and made them feel much less secure about their personal safety.
- The good news – and there is more now than at any point in the year we’ve been looking at the data – is that more people are feeling better about the labor markets, buying big ticket items, and perhaps even investing in U.S. stocks again.
- The wild card – and it is a big one – is food inflation. We’re back to where we were at the peak of the prior cycle in 2007, but with an economy that is nowhere near as strong.
The data, in short, supports the mainstream economic viewpoint that the U.S. economy is improving at a slow pace. The nuances that it highlights, however, are that the damage from the recent recession is as much cultural as economic. A consumer base – even one at the lower end of the economic ladder – with fundamental concerns over food security and affordability or personal safety is not the “dry tinder” of a strong economic bounce back. I don’t know whether to call that “New Normal,” “Old Abnormal” or whatever other rubric might fit this paradigm. But it is a picture of the landscape that you don’t see as much in the government-approved economic indicators, and it tells a separate and perhaps more accurate truth.
The various indicators that inform this view are all included in the attachments to this note , and we’ll touch on a few of the important ones here:
Food Stamps – This program, originally created to sell surplus produce to starving Americans in the Depression, has morphed over the decades into a foodpurchase grant to low income households. The growth rates for SNAP (the modern name for Food Stamps – Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) have been stratospheric for the last two years at +15% year-on-year growth. Part of this was a change to eligibility requirements in 2009, but a lot more was the impact on the recession among low income households. The program now helps over 43 million Americans feed themselves, about 14% of the U.S. population.
The good news, if one can call it that, is that the growth rates are slowing. Last month one of our one strategy team members went to several public assistance offices outside New York to speak to people waiting for a consultation and those interviews shed some light on this trend. The bottom line is that such facilities were simply overwhelmed over the past two years. People who qualified for public assistance needed to visit such centers several times, as the paperwork needed to complete the application process is lengthy and convoluted. So growth rates rose steadily as these individuals finally cleared the hurdles required to receive benefits. One other data point that supports that the growth in the SNAP program may have peaked: Google searches for the term “Food Stamps” are no higher than mid-year 2010.
The deeper question is what the widespread adoption of SNAP will do to the society over the coming years. This is actually not a budget discussion – SNAP is very efficient and costs less than $100 billion a year to help +40 million Americans. Rather, it is a question of the effects of long term reliance on government support to economic issues such as labor participation rates and employment levels. We are in uncharted waters here, to be sure.
Durable Goods Purchases – The most upbeat news from our indicators is the degree to which consumers are snapping up used cars and pickups. Yes, the economic data focuses on all light vehicles, but the “Off the Grid” indicators dance to a different drummer. Used car prices are a great leading indicator for new car and truck demand, and the Manheim Auto Auction data keeps hitting new highs. Pickup trucks are work vehicles, primarily purchased by small businesses. After a steep selloff from the bursting of the housing bubble, pickup truck demand is now positive again, to the tune of +20% year on year for several months in a row.
Guns, Ammunition, and Silver Coins – Whether you are “pro-“ or “anti-“ gun, the sale of firearms should be on your radar screen as a heuristic measurement of something I will call “consumer security.” There is a baseline of organic firearm demand in the U.S. – for years it was about 8 million units, as measured by the FBI’s instant background check request data. With the 2008 recession that number spiked to first 10 million and now 14 million background checks a year. At first observers chalked that up to a Democratic President, but it has been years since Obama’s inauguration and the numbers keep climbing. I attribute that to a deeper sense of unease in the population – perhaps about government controls, perhaps about crime. Hard to say how much of each. But it is easy to say that an unsure society is not one ready to resume a carefree spending profile. And keep in mind that guns are not cheap – a basic rifle or shotgun will run $300 or more.
Much of the same point applies to the recent surge in demand for silver coins. From a monthly sales run rate of less than 1 million coins, the U.S. Mint now pushes out close to 3 million coins a month, and dealers would clearly like to have more. As with guns, silver coins are not cheap - +$30/piece, or +$600 for a roll of 20. I suspect much of this demand stems from gold’s steady price move higher and the fact that the Mint is not producing as many fractional ounce gold coins as it once did. That means people with less than $1,400 to spend on precious metals coins migrate to silver. That is born out in the decline in Google searches for “Gold Coins” as prices there spiked in 2010. Bottom line – there is a fundamental lack of confidence among enough people in the population as to the long term soundness of the dollar.
We’ll close out on a few positive points and one real problem.
- Workers are quitting more often now, according to the underappreciated but highly useful BLS JOLTS data. Almost half of all separations from an employer are now the employee’s idea, rather than a layoff. That dovetails with the recent rise in consumer confidence, as the attached chart highlights.
- Mutual fund flows into U.S. stock funds had a positive week, ending 1/12/11. It has been a long dry spell here – ever since May 2010 – so perhaps investors are finally reengaging with domestic equities as they start contributing to 401(k)s in the New Year.
- Food inflation could be a very large, very nasty problem. The Dept of Agriculture’s “Prices Received” data shows that “All Farm” prices are back to where they were in 2007.
And all the non-government originating charts that's fit to print:
Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index and Equity Mutual Fund Flows:
Food stamp participation and gold coin sales
Silver coin sales, Prices Received, and NCIS Background Checks
Pickup truck sales and Consumer confidence
Google Queries: "Buy a Gun", "Buy Ammunition", "Food Stamps", "Gold Coins", Gallup consumer spending.
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If not for "Dracula" and others like him, things might have turned out a little different in Europe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5VPfCLjRgU&feature=BF&list=FLjAWptc6azYo&index=3
Killem!! ALL!!! and let God sort them out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A
this brings up a good point. i spent some time in south america in the eighties and there were a fair number of riots and demonstration. South Americans are also well armed and you shouldn't necessarily assume a rioter doesn't have a weapon, but it was rare to the point of being unheard of for the typical rioter to have a gun. Simple little people riots are easy to handle. It didn't even phase some of the people. They would just ask around like we ask around about traffic jams, and then change their route to the grocery store. We think riots are such big deal in this country because we rarely see them. I suspect we will see more before this is over but they aren't a big deal. My friends all had shotguns for home defense loaded with rock salt. They could have probably loaded with blanks because rioters always scatter when a crazy screaming man comes at them shooting a shot gun. Seriously riots are no big deal for the most part.
"pickup truck demand is now positive again, to the tune of +20% year on year for several months in a row"
I wonder what the correlation is between demand for used pickup trucks and "buy a gun" queries on Google
after all, when you shift into survival mode do you want a used pickup truck or a 3 series BMW?
http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/cayenne/cayenne-turbo/
If you own a store and are worried about rioters, walk outside with this. You won't even need to fire a shot.
<img src="http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/50771.jpg">
Nah, for rioters I prefer this one:
http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=5659
Yep, this looks exciting, nutnfancy on utube posted a quick display of this at a gun show. It's a first year model but if it lives up to 590 and 870 expectations it will get the job done fast!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhz6hFG7i6s
Blackhawk Remington 870 Knoxx Recoil shooting Review
Ever seen the AA12?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhstuvzMiB0
That's BOOMSTICK for sure! Don't think it would be too great for turkey season but fear factor? Yah!
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-photos-multimedia/35023-blackwater-weapons-engineering-shotguns.html
Have you ever wondered what equipment Blackwater personal use? Well they donot use off the shelves weapons and thats why they are considered better armed than US militray personal. In 2008, a federal grand jury in North Carolina investigated allegations the controversial private security firm Blackwater illegally shipped assault weapons and silencers to Iraq, hidden in large sacks of dog food. This video is a demonstration of one of advanced weapons of Blackwater. Its called the AA12. This modern shotgun has a killing firepower and special cartridges.
Fuck BLACKWATER! Give it to the Troops!
Kick Ass. I guess, generally speaking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU
Better Photos of KSG. Perfect for the Zombie Apocalypse.
http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1294032677
none better.. http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli_m4.php
if you need add this... http://www.xrailbyrci.com/
Wow cool bullpup. I wont buy it because all of my kel tecs have been a pos and jam easily.
Dump em all, and get some good weapons.
Correct. I am not a gun snob by any means, but to anyone who is not rounding out a collection, please save up and buy the real deal. I would rather have a Buck or SOG knife than a Hi-Point. If you are running on a budget, a Mossberg 500 will suit you better than a Kel-Tec.
I don't always say that "You get what you pay for" holds true, but when it comes to a firearm you are trusting your life to, the worst that can happen if you hold true to the adage is that you get screwed out of a couple of dollars. Cheap shit WILL let you down.
Couldn't agree more RE: Keltec. I wanted I nice small light weight CC 9mm and I thought the PF9 would do the trick. I may need to send it back but for a $250 pistol you really need to question the quality. Some people love them, others hate them. I basically won't bet my life on the failure to feed issues I've been experiencing . As a backup 9mm it may come in handy but it will not be my primary CC.
Duplicate.
Here's a direct to this pic:
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/50771.jpg
As a member of the ZH Ladies Auxiliary, I am looking into an SAXD 9mm Subcompact.
~Misstrial
My Lady,
That is not a 930(pictured).
It is a 590, or a 590A1, Pump action.
My only advice would be:
If you are not a shooter, please consider a revolver rather than an automatic. I do not say this to you because you are a lady, but rather because you are (perhaps) a new shooter. A quality revolver will 99.99999% of the time go BANG when you want it to.
Look at .357 Magnum revolvers. They will shoot .38 Special or .357. .38 is the ballistic equivalent of 9mm, and .357 if you choose to shoot it is a serious asskicker.
Plus, nothing's hotter than a chick with a stainless revolver. Unless she's sitting on a Harley.
Thank you for the advice :) For me, a lousy shot, what I'm looking for is "point-shoot." I have terrible aim and just want something that fits my hand, doesn't have a lot of recoil and has a rapid-fire component.
I went to 2 gun shows and tried different gun styles including rifle AR-15 and some sort of automatic rifle (can't recall). Glock, Baretta, S&W, and some other brand.
The SAXD compact and subcompact had the best "feel" in my hand. The subcompact doesn't have a big recoil so that's goood too.
Haven't bought yet - still looking....
~Misstrial
on Sun, 01/23/2011 - 19:34
#897831
Here's a direct to this pic:
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/50771.jpg
As a member of the ZH Ladies Auxiliary, I am looking into an SAXD 9mm Subcompact.
~Misstrial
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Why a 9mm?
you want something so small some attacker will barely be able to see it?
you want a 4" barrel and something big enough to be seen and interrepted by an attacker as a loaded fire arm... little is cute, but guns are not about cute. not for the ladies any way.
http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/family.asp?fid=FNF003&gid=FNG001
That is the perfect girls gun... little ittsy bittsy ammo... but big enough to be seen.
now listen, I said listen! you should by frangible ammo.. as it does tend to pierce armor.
and if that is to, too much... the a S and W 9mm with crimson laser would work better for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwqo1Tlh6-Y
OK, thank you. I haven't bought yet - still looking at various things such as rifles. Must be semi-automatic, that's the thing for me - being a lousy shot I need several shots in the barrel to get a "good one" - t/y for the links. Much appreciated.
Thank you for rec the girl gun. I actually *almost* bought the cutest girl gun ever.
Actually I just asked the dealer to show me a girl gun. Its a pink-camo gun. Would be fun to have - just like a new shade of eyeshadow! :)
Its a Walther: http://www.discountgunsales.com/walther-p-22-pink-camo-34-pr-722.html
~Misstrial
double post, sorry
Goldsaver,
You need to find a better source if your giving FRN's to that group.
can't figure out how to post pictures but the picture in the link is a good mayhem deterrent...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9uNbc03UYI
Moss 930 SPX..
My favorite shotgun - only because it's WAY cheaper than a benelli M4
Nice guns.. (the 930 pistol or stock) both run well...
but a benelli, is just a fucking benelli..
I don't know how to check these things... but i wondered just how much of an increase interest of purchasing banana clips rose after the shooting. Not that I think the shooting caused a rise... but the nanny-police brains (from both right and left), in response to the shooting, who start talking about new legal limitations sure made me want a few.
Saw this statistic back in late 2007, as a gun supporter who doesn't own one yet. Your best advice, bleed the banks. Not a shot will be fired.
The Circus Clown Community 'chaos' organizer will continue to pitch Agenda 21 under chartered plans..
Give everybody a gun, a six pack AND LET THE FUN BEGIN!!
No wonder America has the highest murder rate in the world.
As soon as I had my kids I sold my weapon collection. And that was just a crossbow, a couple of swords and 4hunting 2 barrel rifles from my grandpa which I had neutralized.
If you have a gun in your house, your asking for it.
A friend of mine also had a nice collection of hand weapons and one day he heard a burglar and like a nut he ran down with a piece and started shooting on everything that casted a shadow.
He didn't hit the burglar but that guy ran as fast as he could as he missed him pretty close.
His house looked like a war zone and he had nightmares for a year because suddenly he realised he could have killed the guy.
Great post. I was going to pick it apart, but I realize you are sincere. My favorite part though was
Better not have a pool at your house either. Statistically much more dangerous to your kids. My kids are pretty safe with their guns and with my pool. As far as the dumbass shooting wildly dumb ass is as dumbass does. Even my kids know to identify the target, but they also know staying still is the best strategy. Ambush always is safer.
++++
I don't remember the exact age, but I know that by eight, my son could grab any firearm out of the safe, check it to see if it was loaded, clear it if necessary and hand it safely to me. The idea that kids can't be around guns is asinine. At twelve he put two deer in the freezer, and did it well.
Sorry for all you people that are so afraid of tools.
Actually US is not even in the top ten.
I have plenty of guns in my house. Raised two kids with guns in my house. What is it I'm asking for?
Your friend is an idiot. The handgun had nothing to do with it. His idiocy is inherent and not tied to an inanimate object.
"Your friend is an idiot. The handgun had nothing to do with it. His idiocy is inherent and not tied to an inanimate object."
In an anti-gunner's mind, the gun runs down stairs and shoots all by itself...probably reloads itself too...LOL.
can you teach mine to stay clean and buy thier own ammo? PLEASE?????
LOL...woof woof.
That's my other dog impression.
In the number of murders annualy the US ranks fifth
closely followed by Mexico. India holds the #1 spot
by a long way. In murders per capita we're not even
in the top 10. So enough of this shit about being
the country with the highest murder rate.
It is on top idiot. Check your facts before you talk your redneck bullshit.
Same goes for the rest of the rednecks over here.
YES! YOU YOU YOU AND YOU!!
I am with you brother. I got rid of all the sharp knives in the kitchen, the claw hammer and all the flat screw drivers too. Everytime I was in the kitchen all I could think about was slashing away with those knives. On days when I was a bit moody, the straight claw hammer was the forefront of my mind. I imagined slamming it into my skull. These implements have minds of their own and having them in the house is just simply evil.
I quit shaving cause of the razors were extra sharps, un-needed... now the FBI watches me like I am one of the fucking taliban... i tried to tell them razors kill, but they didnt want to hear that bullshit.
Your story sucked so let me improve it for you.
A friend of mine also had a nice collection of hand weapons and one day he became a pussy and sold them all. One day he heard a burglar and wished he hadn't been so fucking stupid. Like a nut he ran for the phone and called 911 by the time the police got there the house was ransacked, my friend and his wife murdered and no sign of the perp.
SD,
You mind your counrty, as far as the weapons we do fine here.
Crime rates have dropped like 6yrs + in a row.With well over a 100 million armed citizens.
Take out the MURDERS by gang bangers, and Drug Dealers, anf the rate would go WAY down.
While your at it, check the UK, and Australia's crime rates, and shootings, since they were disarmed.
OFF THE CHARTS.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SD,
You mind your counrty, as far as the weapons we do fine here.
Crime rates have dropped like 6yrs + in a row.With well over a 100 million armed citizens.
Take out the MURDERS by gang bangers, and Drug Dealers, and the rate would go WAY down.
While your at it, check the UK, and Australia's crime rates, and shootings, since they were disarmed.
OFF THE CHARTS.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is not the purchase of a firearm merely the expression of one's Natural Right to live? Likewise, the purchase of stores of weath such as Gold and Silver mirror a similar desire to live, for example, in old age when a man may be less capable of productive and valuable activity? Why should such rational Human Action surprise the Hedge?
boom, boom, pow!
Now that I'm on a new comp platform, new jobs will be created under the US job czar. Guns will be put down and progs will march to the doors of Adobe. Employment will skyrocket.
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Millions will revamp their resume skills and update the monster.com profile. I see job recovery on the horizon, perhaps 5% or less can be accomplished. Adobe is a great stock pick, go long. LOL
Yes they are but that bullshit "data" for your consumption only. Behind the scenes "they" know about and have access to much more accurate data. Knowledge is power and they ain't lettin Joe sixpack anywhere NEAR it. They will show around the horse and buggy but keep the Ferrari for themselves.
They arent as automated as you think, plus the telephone survey is helpful in measuring the black and gray market economy that often functions on cash and people working on 1099 forms which arent captured until quarterly payments are due. We have a 20 hour per week nanny we pay cash. We also pay cash for music lessons. Our housekeeper prefers cash....but these people will usually respond to a phone survey.
So you're saying oracle sucks.
Agreed.
Save ammo. Tell your would be intruder that your neighbor voted for Obama, is a anti-gun fanatic, and has a shitpot load of money in the house. Then watch him sprint for your neighbors' house for some well deserved compensation.
Great post, Buy lot's of Ammo, 500 rounds min per firearm.
500 rounds? for bump firing?
In Vietnam, Americans used 50.000 rounds on average for every killed V.C.
So with the snipper skills you guys have, 500 rounds won't really bring you far :)
In Belgium, you guys used your only three rounds when the Nazis rolled through...all three directed at your feet...LOL...aren't you glad our guys knew how to shoot? ;-)
LOL, brutal nmewn...
;-)
America didn't even have a standing army at the beginning of the war.
It took America 2 years to arm itself.
Don't you feel like a retard right now? You should.
Also if you know so much about history, you should know that by European law, it was forbidden for Belgium to have a standing army in Belgium.
But Belgium had the biggest army in Africa and if you google it, you will find that Belgium soldier saved Americans asses plentyfull and found them to be much more experienced then their own troops.
It's not hard for idiots like yourself to be spotted in a group.
You just can't act like a moron for more then 5 minutes.
"America didn't even have a standing army at the beginning of the war. "
We, for a long time, wanted it that way because they are inherently dangerous to the people.
"It took America 2 years to arm itself."
And Belgium, living in La La Land, apparently never saw a threat in their own backyard for six years. And I must wonder what the Japanese were bombing & strafing from Hawaii to the Philippines and why in 41? And what all the U boats were so concerned about regarding traffic to and from England...very odd.
"Also if you know so much about history, you should know that by European law, it was forbidden for Belgium to have a standing army in Belgium."
Forbidden?!...LOL...well that bit of "legislation" worked out swimmingly didn't it? Walking around with rose colored glasses...might as well pluck your eyes out and be done with it.
"But Belgium had the biggest army in Africa and if you google it,.."
I know all about it SD, and I was content to leave your past & present associations alone...just don't go waving your sister state, euro/dollar control freak, slave trading combo flag under my nose and expect to get away with it.
You conveniently leave out some 350yrs.of very important history there spud...on purpose or ignorance is for the reader to decide, there is enough genital herpes to go around.
If you really want to do this we can start right there...in Africa...the Dutch East India Co. & what was called Flanders (the Low Countries) and your divorce from them after splitting the loot.
Snipers averaged about 1.3 rounds per confirmed kill in Vietnam. Carlos hathcock did pretty well.
Snipers averaged about 1.3 rounds per confirmed kill in Vietnam. Carlos hathcock did pretty well.
I've fired tens of thousands of rounds in my life. I've never killed another human being. Are you saying I'm a bad shot?
The local Whitetail population might have a differing opinion however.
http://www.youtube.com/user/bigcanadadeer
So much idiocy in one place. ZH is dying/dead.
Your right. The progressive views of this site are dying. DailyKoolaid.com is the only Hope & Change site left.
Order Code RS22108/2005
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Did you put together the FBI mafia sting recently unfolded on the state media news?
It will surely die if they continue to pander to the doom and gloom crowd. Guns are fun to talk about but i really come here for data. TD and reggie have some.sophisticated followers who often contribute great comments for investors, but this one article for sure is for the outcasts hoping for a collapse thinking that they will later live in a wonderful world of rainbows and unicorns. Hint to you collapsaholics.....it will be much worse for you post collapse because if you are not successful now you will be much worse off after a crash. We wont wake up after a crash in a pure as snow world holding hands and singing.
It doesn't make any difference if it is good or bad for anyone; its just that it is inevitable because of the Ponzi structure.
So your thesis is gun ownership = people "hoping" for a collapse? Maybe you'll get teh Nobel for douchebaggery
If we are going to talk about stupid indicators my three favorites are the cute young ladies that work at the waffle house and best western plus the guy who drives the gourmet frozen food truck making home deliveries. Business is picking up nicely at the waffle house hest western and for the goumet food truck driver i see at the best western occasionally.
Perchance Gold is not a random kickdown....appreciate the Aikidoist comments too. Bears must be Aikidoists to win. I detest any comment like "bears have to get going". Bears can only use gravity, not rocket launchers.
Gold is at a critical support point. Very few if any other analysis methods would show this. The PRS177, which is a channel line extension, tells us something that very few can see, much less understand, much less act upon.
We have got a nice 11% profit on a mechanical trading system [SHORT] on GDX from BreakPoint Trades, however this PRS channel line has caused me to close out that trade. That is good enough.
The "Cable" British Pound / USD currency pair has 2 reasons to want to push higher. The 78 Fibo and the PRS 177. This would also push US equities higher, although the multi-year correlations may be now at risk of no longer working.
Also, Expiry week is done. The Monday after expiry often finds some good size fireworks to correct the antics of Expiry week. Sunday futures will be interesting. We banked some serious coin last Sunday playing the futures, which seemed to move in perfect 5 and 3 wave patterns, almost like shooting fish in a barrel. Not that I will complain, any win is a win gratefully accepted.
Bond Interest Rates are at a 61Fibo, also looking a near perfect bull flag. Choose your own poison on how to play this. Perhaps TBT or even JNK? However, one concern is that there is so much media coverage about muni bonds being risk, and States being allowed to declare bankruptcy--defaulting on pension obligations and bonds. I have to take this amount of media coverage (it is large) as a contrary indicator--when they pimp it out that much, there must be some opposite plan coming out....like a TARP for borrowing for State Governments.
This feeds back into my tin foil hatter theory of Fed Gov as the economic hit man, enslaving everyone, including State Governments with debt. What a great plan to consolidate power at the Federal Level. Time will tell.
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/
Buy lots of Ammo. 500 rounds min per firearm.
It takes a decade to change the thought patterns of an individual. The US Constitution is a hard law to change.
United Nations workshop on gun control, ammunition and explosives - Start with a 3rd world country, cross fingers that MSM will change the sheep mindset.
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/events/united-nations-workshop-on-gun-control.html
Fear makes people want to pay more for gold and silver, and although fear is something that can be manufactured, many fears really have become more probable than before. The biggest and most probable fear was the possibility of imminent collapse from even higher government debt, higher government spending, and higher taxes. However, the public is now more aware and more determined to stop a corrupt and out of control government, hence the elections of 2010, which clearly repudiated the ignorance and irrational exuberance that swept Obama into office just two years before. Therefore, imminent collapse is less probable and more distant.
It seems that fear is now decreasing.
The price of silver is determined by the market. Therefore, the only reason to buy silver at this price is if you have good reason to believe that the price is unlikely to fall and that others will want to pay more in the near future. In fact, that is the only reason to buy any market based asset at any price.
Given that the price of silver is determined by the market, the most recent data is the most relevant.
The price of silver was pretty stable from the beginning of 1990 through the end of 2002.
From the beginning of 2003 through 2010, silver climbed from about $4.50 per ounce to about $31.00 per ounce. Also, I'm guessing the number of people holding silver, though still small, grew by a similar percentage. The rate of increase in both price and holders has also been increasing, so the growth is parabolic (exponential), which indicates a bubble. Whereas, in that same 8-year timespan, the supply of US dollars only doubled. Therefore, the market price may fall to $9.00 per ounce soon to correlate more closely with the increase in dollars. The only reason people would pay more - is fear.
It seems that fear is now decreasing.
I'm sure many here disagree, so please, enlighten us.
Fear is definitely decreasing. Now the only thing that matters is gdp and inflation. I thought i sold all my silver and gold too soon, but maybe not!
"...enlighten us."
What do you mean by "us"? Who are you writing for/with? ;-)
We are not amused. ;)
I am ;-)
LOL silver drops a few bucks = fear is decreasing? Are you a fucking complete moron?
Nothing has changed except 2012 is around the corner. Government Proles paid high $$$ have to meet the deadline.
Ammunition Background Documents
http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/Ammunition/html/Ammunition-Background.shtml
If they fail in taking away your guns, ammunition will be controlled.
Obama definitely wants your guns, as anyone could have determined conclusively even before he was elected, but fortunately he has been too distracted and perplexed by his failure on other issues thus far.
http://www.endofinnocence.com/2010/06/obama-wants-your-guns.html
"The wise man points to the moon, the moron looks at the finger"
It will be a barometric reading on our understanding of how things really work, once we stop mistaking the pointed finger for the object.
It's not Obama that wants your guns. He won't be leading the swat team that breaks down your door.
The same ones who controls him, are the same ones who guided the previous admins.
It might be comforting to personify them with the name Obama, but he is just continuing the same plans that Bush and Clinton had before him.
It Ain't a Right / Left thing.
It's an Upper / Lower thing.
Always have been. Right/Left is a false dichotomy just meant to keep us fighting between us.
Maybe use the names Rothchilds, Rockefellers once in a while. You know, the ones who Own the Fed.
You're right, but did you red my article? Don't you think it is also valuable to prove to the people that they were so thoroughly deceived by the media?
Yes,
Didn't disagree with you as much as It was just a chance to point out the the common misdirection(albiet at your expense).
Good guns, civilians. I'm sure they'll be effective against the Apaches, Strykers, and M1Abrahms.
Maybe by that time many of those Abrams and Apaches will be on our side.
http://www.endofinnocence.com/2010/09/oath-keepers.html
Speaking of the Apache, remember way back in the Spring of '03 when that elderly Iraqi farmer managed to bring down an AH-64 with an old British .303 Enfield? Then he kept the pilots at gunpoint until Saddam's boys arrived on scene.
Good luck with the .303! Saddam's boys aren't coming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUFYwTY4DBk&feature=related
Great rocket launcher but it looks like the woodchuck got away.
We will napalm you to oblivion.
200 MILLION enraged whites.
The following is a recipe for napalm, or rather, a recipe for some sticky stuff that burns.
Take the usual precautions.
You will need:
Procedure:
"Unite and ignite"
We will take this jew shit down and the military will make a choice on whether to side with the marxists jews or fire on their own. If they fire on their own, they lose either way.
This is very close to my mother's matzo ball recipe.
you are making it harder than it needs to be, hefty and / or garbage bags + gas... and youre done.
The blood of the fallen enemy is the best technical, political, sociological and practical solution.
Dewd, you're way out there. Talk to somebody or get some help.
People are interested in guns to protect their families against such anarchy.
Anarchy is for children who have lost their way.
Yes he is...and yes he's making it a lot harder than it really is...but consider the source.
heheh news must have hit america about the coming chocolate shortage.!
let them eat lead.
I am surprised we still attempt polls, when we have the Oracle of Google.
That's funny...I was going to buy a Smith & Wesson 357 this weekend....but I couldn't stop sawing wood because I'm a chainsaw addict!!
When WalMart no longer sells out of ammo as soon as it arrives....then I'll know things are back to normal. Right now people buy out handgun and assault gun ammo as soon as it arrives.
A few years back, I had established a good business arrangement with the sporting goods manager of the local Walmart. He would call me when he knew that an ammo restock was scheduled for the following morning. I would always be there the next morning when the store opened for business.
At a certain quantitative point, and with a more than adequate storage facility, one can accumulate a substantial small-arms ammunition cache.
I lost count of my 9mm and .223 Remington stash several years ago. I think both of those particular calibers are somewhere in the 50 to 100 thousand round range.
I consider Pb to be a PM.
Don't know where you live, but my local Wally World has shelves full of ammo and sells it 24 hours a day. Wait for the good sales at Bi-Mart or Dick's sporting goods (if you live in the Northwest) and you can even get a really good price (about 30 cents per round for .223).
"Buy a Gun" seems reasonable to me. It's better than "Anarchists R Us"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCB8TBrVayI
Nothing changes except the MSM has better IT props and teleprompters.
"Washington: Hearings begin before the House Un-American Activities Committee, on charges of communist infiltration in Hollywood, Chirman Thomas outlines the scope of the probe; while Eric Johnston, head of the M.P.A., denies the threat of communist influence and states that the Reds will never succeed in Hollywood." scenes of HUAC chaired by J. Parnell Thomas and its investigation of the Hollywood 10 (partial newsreel).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfKSykTPzA4
House Un-American Activities Committee
Those FOUNDING FATHERS / REVOLUTIONARY FATHERS / CONSTITUTION&DECLARATION of INDEPENDENCE FATHERS WERE THE SMARTEST, MOST WONDERFUL PEOPLE TO HAVE EVER LIVED. Long live guns / gold & farmland......... as it always was & always will be in this country ..........WE'VE BEEN TAKEN BY THE HAND & ALLOWED OURSELVES TO BE ESCORTED DOWN THE WRONG PATH, THERE IS A FORK IN THE PATH AGAIN & IT'S TIME TO MAKE A DECISION.
House Un-American Activities Committee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Committee_on_Un-American_Activities
Somehow nothing changes, just repeat and expect a different outcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJCJGvd7t2c
We should see a bill hit the floor stating that imprisonment & IRS wage garnishment will be a enforced. If found to go against the state.
delete repeat post
I'll vouch for one trend for sure. Last time I had an itch to add to my arsenal (before my 2010 purchase): 1994.
post ban pricing, with pre bans... wowowowowowowoie! buy 10 of everything now and sell 1 for a 100% profit on the entire 10.
forget a bout it
http://theopeningrange.blogspot.com/
http://dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=84
Funny shit..
if you are buying a gun, FIRST AND FOREMOST, Tacticalresponse.com Best training i have ever had.
Firearms might make you feel safer, but genuine security is a much larger issue, requiring a broader strategy. Weapons, even if you are well trained, are only one component of a larger security strategy.
semperparatusinc.blogspot.com
Agreed
Agreed
List of spouses and children of members of congress complete with schools and home addresses.
List of goldman sachs and jpm employees with contact information.
Names, spouses and children of members of the fed board of governors.
I HAVE COMPILED THESE.
Along with the list of every synagogue and yeshiva on this continent.
We're going to see who is playing around.
300 cells of 3 dedicated men can fuck this jew hellhole in it's ass.
Whoa there! We gotta party sometime dude. Get you.some pussy.
Dude, seriously.
I admit that I post inflammatory rhetoric from time to time in an effort to troll for compatriots.
Your post crosses the line in my opinion.
There should be absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind that intelligence agencies lurk here.
Maybe we should try to prevent the serving of Federal search warrants against Mr. Durden.
Stay on the porch, homo.
There is no law I am aware of that outlaws the compiling of lists of public information.
As far as I am concerned, you have outted yourself, and no post from you is to be trusted, but rather ought to be read as disinformation.
You're right. I'm "outted". I'm really a Fed.
What are you? 12?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
You are mad. Your comments are madness.
Aah. One of st vincents angels.
The biggest evidence of some recovery is the people in the stock market who are spending their money. And they ‘d better spend it; because, IMO, we’re in a stock market bubble, and they’d better not keep it there.
It’s like the people who kept their money in their house equity during the housing bubble and enjoyed five-star dining every week thinking they had a $5 million dollar house; and found out later it was only a $500,000 house.
So, yes, there’s been a decided economic improvement for a percentage of the population doing better than they have in years, shopping and buying and endulging like crazy--- Lexuses, expensive houses, eating out in Menlo Park… Yes, but the question is, what’s the total economic impact?
And, of course, this part of a recovery has a negative effect on the non-stock market sector of the economy since Bernanke’s source for building up the stock market is to remove income from savers and wage earners. It’s called pickpocketing, i.e. Quantitive Easing…
Slip slidin' away
Slip slidin' away
You know the nearer your destination
The more you're slip slidin' away
God only knows
God makes his plan
The information's unavailable
To the mortal man
We're working our jobs
Collect our pay
Believe we're gliding down the highway
When in fact we're slip slidin' away
In fact, on second thought if any one has one of those remote controlled planes , with explosives attatched, it would be my honor to fly guide that plane down 16th street mall, downtown Denver CO, and up and into the Federal Reserve Bank of Denver. Small fire, no injures, national attention or maybe no attention. It's time to take back our country! And if you NSA bitches show up at my crip again tonight, I got a suprise for you!
Eric is like a magician. Look over this way while I perform my trick.
Eric Schmidt may sell USD 335mln of Google (GOOG) shareshttp://ransquawk.com/headlines/116596
Meanwhile, new 64 bit computer users have to use two different Win 8 google browser.
32 bit
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
http://www.google.com/
Internet Explorer (64-bit)
http://www.google.com/
Looks the same until you're the customer who has to switch between the two. I wonder how much revenue is lost using the 64 bit version?
FYI, 64 bit is slated for TV users. You should see all the new ports on the back of this comp.
There are real-live banditos out there right this very moment. Folks who have made a living through violence, theft, murder, and evasion for decades.
There are other folks out there who've fantasized about how great everything will be when there's no law, no infrastructure, and no social norms.
Which group is posting here today? Are all you Innerwebz tough guys stone cold killers? Spending months or years hanging around talking shit on a website? Ok, sure.
I'll play along. Even just being in the top 5% of mental preparedness will provide some benefit over a significant chunk of the competition.
I own some weapons and intend to have them handy, but I suspect guns are going to be less use than the well-trained mind as the world changes. Guns really only do one thing, and the one thing they do isn't something that's much use most of the time.
there are also real life gung ho killers out there right now that consider any order to kill someone valid and will happily comply, regardless of who the target might be.
the other folks are not fantasizing about how great everything will be without law, infrastructure and social norms, they are fantasizing how great it will be when the above category no longer exists, when society is ruled by law and not by force, when infrastructure that we need and want is provided by the market, and when social norms are take it or leave it.
when society is ruled by law and not by force
All the great religious prophets and seers have been predicting that time for as long as we've been recording history.
Right around the corner, I'm sure. We just have to get it right this time.
I love the splat of a .12 gauge with 00 buckshot at close range.
I think I know one guy who does not own a firearm...and most of us don't hunt or target shoot. The one guy who doesn't own a gun has commented several times he wants to buy one and plans to in the future. Fuck it. Guns are normal. It's our government that's not normal.
I think it's high time to pdf an updated anarchist's cookbook.
Complete with addresses and googlemaps, of course.
Oh and disclaimers, like cramer's charade.
"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." -- Henry Thoreau
Let's see if we can't turn that ratio around.
I've become the 5th Column the jews have always been.
There's a difference though. My methods are direct.
Bring it, bitch.
On our terms.
At a time of our choosing.
Sleep tight.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Run away, you little pussy.
bro... what did the jews do to you?
tell me?
i am white and I wanna know.. what am i missing? tell me the reasons..
thanks in advance for my lessons.
he's confusing jews with zionists, of the banking, social-control variety as opposed to the less well known zionists who are just hard working colonizers
Ok i would like a copy. Send it to jesushchrist@breakthru.com. this is.a legitimate email
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
interesting. is there a small firearm or semi-automatic ETF?
if you dont understand how much money is in guns... an etf aint gunna help you.
Per guns for home defense.....a shotgun is likely the best. High-powered rifles are dangerous, since the bullet can penetrate walls and possibly kill one of your family members or a neighbor, and handguns are more apt to miss a target. I keep both a shotgun and a handgun within reach of my bed. But, I will always grab the shotgun first. I change guns from time to time, but in general, I prefer a double barrel 12 gauge, since it is simple and foolproof, and I can carry two extra shells between the fingers of my left hand, ready for a quick reload. That gives me options...if it seems to be a belligerant midget invading my home, I can dose him with one barrel and keep one in reserve for a second assailant, or use it for a finish shot. However, if it is an outsized NFL type monster coming down the hall, I can give him both barrels, and in less than three seconds, be reloaded and ready to pop him again if he is hoped up on Seconal or wearing body armor. The double burst will usually down even a fucking abominable snowman on speed who is heavily armored....just long enough to reload and pop a finish shot in a vulnerable area. Per shot, in a home, the medium to small shot is likely better than heavy buck loads. I use #6 shot in a gun with 24" barrels with one open and one modified choke. Some afficianados claim that each barrel should carry a different size shot, since this creates a differing-velocity chain effect on impact....maybe, but it is a little complex, and is filligree really.
There are options other than lead shot. If you think your asshole son-in-law is coming around to cause some shit, then a load of rock salt in his ass will likely dampen his martial ardor. Flechettes are another option. Hard screw nails loaded in a shell and bound together with hot wax works very well - although this does not constitute a reliable killing round, it does serious non-fatal damage. Ball bearings coated in teflon will penetrate most body armor, as will turned-down metal rods coated in the same. Silicone works pretty well here as well.
I do not advise this, but on the Fox double I keep by my bed, I removed the safety....one less thing to go wrong in the heat of the moment.
Per my defense handguns...well, I own over 20 handguns, so I have a wide choice....but, I chose the one I am most familiar with, comfortable with, and accurate with. This varies, but typically I like a revolver, since it is simpler and less prone to problems than an auto. Right now I have a .41 Magnum with dum-dummed soft-point bullets. It is a double action with a five inch barrel. I cut the trigger tang off of it and disabled the safety. I use this strictly for a backup weapon.
I also keep a 12" Bowie knife just under the edge of my bed in case I need a third backup if for some reason I am surpised and cannot get to the guns (unfuckinglikely). It is honed to a razor edge and is balanced for throwing.
But, in the end, I figure that a miscreant doper or seconal-crazed banksta will likely never make it past my security system and my dogs....neither of which is designed to stop them, but is intended to alert me so I can swing into action with the tools that are designed to eliminate the problem.