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Fri, 08/21/2009 - 12:59 | 43501 Anonymous
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hey

why you americans are sooo stupid
even on an educated site like this, one still bothers about pelosi

-big problem nr1.
usa has NO free media, except bloggs
but bloggs are not mainstream
-usa is a fakedemocracy, coz democracy asks for informed citizens.
-well...

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:02 | 43509 e1even1
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patriotism is a side effect of the blue pill. your government is predatory and you, we, us are the prey.

wake up to the REAL vampire squid. reported today:

WASHINGTON — Tom Ridge, the first secretary of homeland security, asserts in a new book that he was pressured by top advisers to President George W. Bush to raise the national threat level just before the 2004 election in what he suspected was an effort to influence the vote.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:39 | 43609 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Many people have already denied this claim.

 

Rove did the same when he was hawking his book for the almight $$

 

Maybe you ought to wake up.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 18:29 | 44228 e1even1
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"Rove did the same when he was hawking his book for the almight $$"

you're saying that government officials will say and do whatever pays? thank you for proving my point. i rest my case.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:05 | 43513 digalert
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I'm told to voice my concerns with my congress person. Well I've got Pelosi, Feinstein and Boxer. Because I'm not Hollywood whacked elite, I'm not a millionaire and I'm not illegal my voice doesn't count. One right I have remaining (for now) is my vote which is what made this country great.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:56 | 43667 cougar_w
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Hang in there. And when the opportunity comes to change things... jump.

It's not pretty. It's not clean. But it's the way it's got to be done, and eventually we get it right. Those screaming for instant gratification are little more than children.

cougar

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:08 | 43519 peoplesdemocrat...
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I don't usually care for lawyers but this guy is good to go!

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:11 | 43526 Anonymous
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Now why would Zero Hedge post such an article ? Is it because you agree with Dennis L Guthrie. What is happening around the country is pensioners or people close to retirement suddenly waking up to the fact that their security blanket has been ripped off and that they are pretty much naked in the cold - and they are pissed ! So the right wing of MSM is guiding that anger towards Health Care Reform protest and Tea Parties and stupid crap like that. Be very careful - everybody is looking for scapegoats here. Nancy Pelosi may be a POS - but no better or worse than any other politician. Wish the discourse on such blogs would be guided more towards identifying the real culprits who depleted their retirement savings - that is the imperative - so that the next generation at least wont get duped !

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:16 | 43543 Anonymous
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Why would you post this hyperventilating nonsense? Nancy Pelosi is part of the Dem Party machine, but she's not the devil.

"When I served, I was spit on." Bullshit. That never happened. That's an urban legend that invalidates all of the writer's other points.

"I'm not un-American. YOU'RE un-American"

Again, why would you post this on a site about the markets? Lame.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 18:27 | 44224 Sqworl
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Nancy Pelosi is not the Devil, she merely buys cigarettes for the Devil..Her actions have everthing todo with the Markets...get a clue or go back to Business insider

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:16 | 43545 Anonymous
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why is this posted here ? isn't this a financial forum or is an going to be an outlet for nutjobs like this guy ?

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 18:23 | 44217 Sqworl
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Wanker: this is a financial forum..Nancy Pelosi and her co-horts are raping our country.  Fuck her and Boxer too!  I'm sure she took "our" financed G5 to her vineyard in Napa to host a fundraiser from Health/Phama!

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:27 | 43576 Anonymous
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Useless post of a letter devoid of any content. ZH is losing its touch.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:32 | 43591 Anonymous
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TD,

I've already commented on a previous posting that you should stick to economics and markets where you and the people who comment on this blog have sophistication but you censored me and wouldn't accept may comment.

So, repeat, posting this kind of garbage you get garbage back without helping anyone's cause, especially your own.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:27 | 43768 Harbourcity
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"Ma'am, trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it."

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:37 | 43791 Anonymous
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I find it no great irony that now posts on here are moderated. That generally can be construed to be one of two things. One, dissent will not be tolerated. Or, two, there is some attempt to moderate behavior. Whack jobs and off topic remarks will moderate themselves out of existence if left to their own accord. And dissent or alternative viewp points means that either, one discourse is at work, or two, Zero Hedge isn't quite the bastion of all things intelligent that it first appeared to be. There are many posts on here that are completely inaccurate.

I think TD is really George Bush. lol

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:38 | 43606 Anonymous
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ok tyler

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:43 | 43616 Anonymous
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Anyone that takes it to Washington is a friend of mine. But, the remarks about the city of fruitcakes sounds oddly like fundamentalist kooks. And even though our good friend Mr. Guthrie is an attorney, I suspect he might need to go back and read the Constitution himself. There is nothing about capitalism in the Constitution. Nor does freedom have any semblance to capitalism.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:11 | 43710 cougar_w
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According to some accounts (and Wikipedia discusses this) what was later written into the Declaration of Independence as "that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" was originally going to be stated as a self-evident right to the pursuit of... property.

So not only did the original framers not write capitalism and profit into the founding instrument of our current government, they expressly wrote it OUT.

I think they feared what might happen should the government ever see itself as the guarantor of any one's personal profit. Though they tried they fail, in the end their fears were realized.

Ours is now a form of government that ensures profit, if only for the few. I assume Musollini would be proud.

cougar

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:44 | 43618 Anonymous
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GUTHRIE...cant you get the FACTS RIGHT?

Why does EVERY CONSERVATIVE mistate facts so eagerly?
Why does EVERY CONSERVATIVE spread mis-information?

PELOSI SAID...
ANYONE who SHOUTS DOWN OR DROWNS OUT
any other American Citizen
of his free speeech and his free debate
is UN-AMERICAN.

And she is F*CKING RIGHT.

ANY F*CKING CONSERVATIVE who yells over
my question or my answer,
I would stick my folding chair
where the SUN, and
(and RUSH)
does not ever, ever shine.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:02 | 43679 cougar_w
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We can leave Pelosi out of it. She didn't invent the idea of civil discourse.

I'll say it myself:

It is unAmerican to shout down another party with whom you disagree. You are free to disagree, you are not free to destroy another's right to participate in a free government, not through intimidation nor through violence nor through acts contrary to the Constitution. Doing so places you on the side of tyrannts and demogogues.

cougar

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:50 | 43643 Anonymous
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Tyler, you've been using the blogs of others as your own to push a thinly disguised campaign against Democrats for some time.

Again, it hurts your credibility.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:26 | 43763 Harbourcity
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"Ma'am, trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it."

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:09 | 43703 pinkboxtrader
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where's the 'flag as junk' link for the main post

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 17:59 | 44170 cougar_w
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+1 funny... no wait, you were serious. +1 important

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:14 | 43726 Anonymous
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Stick to the facts! We are where we are because the Democrats decided to give ( sell ) houses to people that could not qualify credit wise for them. That is FACT. Then they passed a law in 1999 under Clinton allowing ACORN and like minded groups to sue banks if they did not make loans to low income people. What Wall Street, Fannie, Freddie and Ginnie did afterwards is history and we are living in the results now. Now the same groups are spending hundreds of billions to prop up the market, but they are only delaying the inevitable. Everyone on this blog that is a trader knows that the current bull market is going to blow up, it is just a matter of when. Roubini has pretty much said since January that he expects the next leg down to occur in the second half of 2010. Most of the traders on here have lost money shorting the market in the belief that it would happen much sooner. Between the Fed printing copious quantities of money and GS using their HFT desk to support the market, they just may be able to last until next year.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 17:35 | 44143 Anonymous
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What happened to the intelligence of commenters here.

1) You can't call a FACT something that's conjecture.

2) You REALLY can't call something a FACT that's not true.

There was no law in 1999 that does what you claim. There was a requirement on banks called CRA, this still exists (it's also called Community Reinvestment Act), it's been around since at least the 1980s, and yes, it requires chartered banks to make some efforts to help low-income communities.

But contrary to the myths spread around by nimwits and twatwads like yourself, CRA had NOTHING to do with the crisis. First, CRA was around for decades and caused no harm like you claim. What happened was that banks who saw a shitload of cash in securitizing subprime loans, asked their bank regulators if some of these loans could qualify as CRA. Some bank regulators said yes to some of these loans. All of these bank regulators were Bush appointees.

Second, CRA-qualifying subprime (or equivalent loans) were a drop in the bucket. Banks were securitizing trillions of dollars worth of subprime mortgages, maybe a few billion of this counted towards their goals.

But you should just profess your total ignorance of the FACTS, you numbnuts. Go read a book or something.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 22:40 | 44489 JR
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You are absolutely right, James Simpson, a former White House staff economist. explains CRA’s role in the current mortgage crisis in a powerful article,   Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis,” published last September in American Thinker. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

 Says Simpson, the Mortgage Crisis “originated with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), signed into law in 1977 by President Jimmy Carter. The CRA was Carter's answer to a grassroots activist movement started in Chicago, and forced banks to make loans to low income, high risk customers... Phil Gramm has called it: "a vast extortion scheme against the nation's banks."


ACORN aggressively sought to expand loans to low income groups using the CRA as a whip,” says Simpson and quotes Economist Stan Leibowitz wrote in the New York Post: In the 1980s, groups such as the activists at ACORN began pushing charges of "redlining"-claims that banks discriminated against minorities in mortgage lending.”


Continues Simpson, “
ACORN showed its colors again in 1991, by taking over the House Banking Committee room for two days to protest efforts to scale back the CRA. Obama represented ACORN in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 1994 suit against redlining.  Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Administration that greatly expanded the CRA and laid the groundwork for the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac borne financial crisis we now confront. Barack Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans more aggressively.

  “Flexible lending programs expanded even though they had higher default rates than loans with traditional standards...CRA loans available via ACORN with "100 percent financing . . . no credit scores . . . undocumented income . . .

“Ironically, an enthusiastic Fannie Mae Foundation report singled out one paragon of nondiscriminatory lending, which worked with community activists and followed ‘the most flexible underwriting criteria permitted.’ That lender's $1 billion commitment to low-income loans in 1992 had grown to $80 billion by 1999 and $600 billion by early 2003. The lender they were speaking of was Countrywide, which specialized in subprime lending and had a working relationship with ACORN.”

 There is also a long history of  Obama’s  involvement with ACORN currently ongoing  on The IUSB Vision Weblog: Obama Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans – UPDATED, with such facts as: Update VI: Investors business daily reports more on Obama’s work with ACORN:

 “Obama was the attorney who told [ACORN] last November...“I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career.” Indeed he has. Obama was and is fully aware of what ACORN was doing with the money and expertise he provided. The voters should be aware on Nov. 4 of the roles of both in creating the current crisis.”

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=307667123149723

There  also is an old New York Times story that picks up your 1999 date which says Clinton pushed through Glass-Steagall during a midnight meeting,  signing it into law on November 12, 1999 to make sure there would be no further regulation on the community banks; Clinton and others wanted more not less lending to the low income and disadvantaged.

http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/bill-clinton-glass-steagall-and-the-current-financial-and-mortgage-crisis-part-two-of-an-indepth-investigative-report.html

The country is teetering. Now!  We can no longer care what happens to us individually.  We have to save America.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:25 | 43761 Harbourcity
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/Applause

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 15:18 | 43871 Anonymous
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Wonderful

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 17:40 | 43989 TopHat (not verified)
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and assuming massive exposure to both price risk and counterpary risk at the same time.

good articles; my newest bookmarked finance site ..http://www..
hat tip: finance news & finance opinions

why does the market keep going up even though the fundamentals aren't that great? Every day, week, month the market keeps going higher.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 16:12 | 44029 SWRichmond
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Francisco d'Anconia: "When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion – when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favours – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed."


Fri, 08/21/2009 - 18:09 | 44190 cougar_w
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Thank you for sharing! That was great.

It works that way because there are far more honest men (er... people) than dishonest. Far more people interested in doing decent work for a reasonable reward than those wanting to skate by on deals and fraud. And since the honest people in the majority are carrying the entire economy, once they get the idea that the game is rigged and give up -- your economy is toast.

A few parasites sucking on the marrow of the bones of the economy can destroy the whole thing, if they are bad enough and their activities become common knowledge. If they poison the will of the majority to do worthwhile things. The latter is far more dangerous than even the visible damage they do by diverting profit to themselves. Once the majority gives up then all you have are the parasites, and it quickly becomes obvious that they are empty bags of skin.

cougar

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 16:25 | 44053 juno9604
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"All critics of Pelosi are woman-haters. All critics of Obama are racists. Repeat.

Real deep thinker."

Very high level of discourse

 

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 18:16 | 44202 cougar_w
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Take it as evidence that we have more work to do -- on more fundamental issues -- than we have so far been willing to admit.

We may have more work to do than is possible.

It took 8,000 years to get where we are now. Imagine it could take 800 days to retrace most of that progress. We think we have learned a lot but I can't see where we learned much that will help us go forward from where we are now.

cougar

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 16:45 | 44074 JR
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 At the moment, the Obama Administration and the Democrats are self-destructing.  The liberals and socialists are trying to run Democrat policy, and they’re running it into the ground, and Pelosi can’t be re-elected at home if she doesn’t give people in Marin County, California (the fruits and nuts), what they want. And they don’t care what her jet costs are as long as she delivers the bacon. She and the socialists are out of touch with the rest of America, as is Ubiquitous Anonymous here with his profanity and profound absurdities on economic theory. He is the Voice of the Losers.

 

One reason Americans are up in arms is that they’ve seen the truth, via their cameras, cell phones, recordings that disprove the lies, blogs, the Internet, the Zero Hedges.  They’ve found a bypass around the mainstream media. And they don’t like what they see-- the bank bailouts and Congress’s rush, rush, rush to shove legislation through without reading it.  And they don’t like “death sentences" if, as the cost counters in the British Health System put it, there is no remaining “quality adjusted life year” remaining. People are getting more and more alarmed and more and more vocal, and rightly so.

To say politics is not intertwined with economics is absurd.  Perhaps Anonymous is one of those bloggers who’s a part of the 180 staffers of  the Center for American Progress (CAP) that devotes half of its $27 million budget to promote its ideas through blogs, events, publications and media outreach, as the “intellectual wellspring for Democratic policy proposals” including many that are shaping the agenda of the Obama administration, according to Bloomberg.  Thanks, of course, must go to its billionaire benefactors George Soros and film producer Stephen Bing and, of course, its president and founder, John Podesta,  former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, and one of three people who ran the transition team for president-elect Barack Obama.

Denounce Mr. Guthrie at your pleasure, Anonymous, but this is backlash.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 18:28 | 44225 cougar_w
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Not backlash. Flailing. The game is over, there isn't another game, nobody is really certain what comes next, and they don't want to find out. Blame who you like, it is no longer important. The poison is in the well. Now we all must drink it.

Nobody really knows what happened at the time of the fall of Rome. There were fires and invasions, leaders of no account. Much was later forgotten, for there was no one to reliably remember. There is a reason why the European period from 470 to 700AD is called The Dark Ages, but nobody who endured that time knew that's what they were in. They only recognized the darkness in hindsight. It is doubtful they suspected anything of the sort was in store at the outset. The shadows grew darker and more fierce until nothing could be remembered.

Welcome to the time of long shadows. Going forward, they only get longer and deeper. Don't flail around too much. Try not to forget.

cougar

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 18:00 | 44171 tahoebumsmith
Fri, 08/21/2009 - 18:48 | 44258 tahoebumsmith
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by JR
Perhaps Anonymous is one of those bloggers who’s a part of the 180 staffers of  the Center for American Progress (CAP) that devotes half of its $27 million budget to promote its ideas through blogs, events, publications and media outreach, as the “intellectual wellspring for Democratic policy proposals” including many that are shaping the agenda of the Obama administration, according to Bloomberg. 

I call them T.O'S, That stands for team Obama's. They are starting to show up everywhere in the blog world trying to disarm the people that will eventually bring them down. Good luck, you can sniff them out everytime they type.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 22:05 | 44406 michigan independant
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That Man no matter what he feels knows the gatekeeper's duty. The founders warned us to the consequences we see today. All I feel is when the gatekeeper move it to your front door liberty is already lost. All Independant people can do now is kick them in the pocket book. After decades of working with veterans and having family in the Military I thank them for there service. Sometimes I throw stones only to regret that action. I learn from and remember who asked who is without pick up the stone. Lately we read what we seen already coming to the States. My thought really is fix one thing at a time. We read where a medical facility in California was closed or was to be as a patient dies on camera on the floor in her final hours. Reservation's in States say do not get sick after mid year. If we continue to act this way we are this way. Our State is as it is. If we continue not to fix one thing at a time in medical sectors it conveys what we are, pointless and the Senate cannot fix everthing or ever could anyway. We all have the ability to vote and even when I did last cycle we all knew where this was going anyway in my opinion. At this point in life I do not care what Washington thinks because they cannot since as forwarded change is from the inside first as read countless times. I am blessed with a Corporate Job to date and now I have old and young to regard under my roof. As stated we seen this peril coming and the gatekeepers did not regard the warnings which many have mailed regards as I have myself to them. Leadership demands sacrifice and given the partylines and debt levels unabatted we know where the truth lays its witness. If things are improving I cannot see its wisdom to date. I am very inclined to despise state economist's given there bent of mind to date and will not regard them as gatekeepers of the letter. ZH has educated me to many area's and steel does sharpen steel. Never give up since top to bottom no one is above regard to acountability. Find better candidates since I cannot see but a few good ones out there anymore to even consider given the debasement around. Say what you want on your dime not mine in washington since I have to many souls to care for already. The older I get the more I regard "never attribute to malice what stupidity will explain"

 As for history and its lessons, read more of it since it dresses itself for the application of it I can only convey. Paragraph's never can convey it all and the Senate really has lost it way for far to many in it. So much waste,many in need, and yes we live in a fallen world... /rant off

 

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 23:24 | 44521 JR
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There can be no better way to say it than “Man no matter what he feels knows the gatekeeper’s duty.”    You are right, we have relaxed our vigilance, and that shining hope that America presented to all mankind as living proof that freedom was attainable, has grown dim.  And as it dims so diminishes the hope and aspirations of the enslaved around the world.  But I feel a stirring of that hope once again as I read your impassioned words and those of Mr. Guthrie’s and many others here.

 "As Ronald Reagan said in his farewell address to the nation, 'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'"

We each are now, as you say, the gatekeeper of our own door: and perhaps that is good. For now we can lend our patriotism collectively to the cause of liberty, and not to politicians

 

Sat, 08/22/2009 - 04:16 | 44629 Anonymous
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Tyler,

Your headline should read: Dennis Guthrie takes on Nancy Pelosi with lots of vitriol; little argument.

His "I-am-better-than-you" letter fails to explain why he considers Pelosi 'un-American' (whatever that implies).

Must you publish such chatter?

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 14:37 | 46401 Anonymous
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hey project, get over it. President Bush is not in office anylonger so you dip sticks can stop with the crap.

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 21:55 | 46782 Anonymous
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Dennis: It was so nice to talk with you this evening. This is a great letter. We are spreading it all over the internet to all our friends and asking them to do the same.
Thank you for speaking up. That is what is wrong with America today, everyone is so afraid to say anything. It is so funny to know that many Democrats do not necessarily vote for a particular candidate, they just want to make sure that they vote "Democrat" because they were born and bred into the "Democrat" saga!
Again, I enjoyed talking with you and again thanks for speaking up for us.

F. Williams
Maryville, TN

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:38 | 51917 Anonymous
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Dennis L Guthrie
Attorney At Law
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
August 25, 2009

Dear Mr. Guthrie,

Your letter to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is a typical response from a Republican jerk attorney like you.

Your letters, dated August 11, 2009, has no substance other then hate rhetoric and being promoted by your Republican allies. To dissect your letter for intelligent dialog, all the reader finds are the following hate allegations of Speaker of The House Nancy Pelosi.
You are despicable, un-American, disgrace, traitor, socialist, Marxist and so on.

Your letter makes Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda for Nazi Germany an amateur. By the way, the definition of propaganda is a co coordinated attempt to influence public opinion by your warped mind. You suggested that Speaker Pelosi read
several books. It is apparent that you must have read Hitler’s book Mein Kampf and was
Obsessed by chapter IV on the subject of propaganda as a weapon.

You made the point that you served in the army along with your son, big deal, so did millions of men and women giving you the right to be a hate monger and a disciple of
Joseph Goebbels. You represent the face of the the Republican Party kooks.

Your lawsuit against your brother and mother is interesting reading, especially your dereliction of duty to assist in your mother’s financial dilemma. You let your sister
do what you, the son, should have done. But you will take your cut of $250,000.
Court Case reference #10a010703

You’re truly great American Congressman Charles Rapper Jonas, known as Mr. Republican, sure doesn’t live up to your present Republican Senator John Ensign,
Governor Sarah Palin and Governor Mark Saunders, just to name a few of your fruitcakes and nuts as you described Speaker Pelosi hometown.

Mr. Guthrie, it is because of your ugly Republican hate poison that I and many American
will embrace the Democratic Party then to surrender our country to the likes of you.

Sincerely,

Samuel Gagliardi
250 Prospect Street
Baden, Pa 15005

Sat, 08/29/2009 - 15:33 | 52905 Anonymous
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Pelosi and all the career politicians hooked lobbyist and special interest money are the exact reason we must kick them all out and put real people in office.

Get Out of Our House. GOOOH www.goooh.com

Sun, 08/30/2009 - 17:39 | 53462 Anonymous
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An Open letter to Dennis L. Guthrie, Esq.

I read your Open Letter to Nancy Pelosi with some amusement. It was a rant devoid of substance. Your diatribe reminded me of a quote from William Shakespeare’s “Macbeth” - “Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,Signifying nothing.”

Your rather noxious diatribe on Nancy Pelosi clearly indicates that you do not understand how our form of Government was designed to work. Congresswoman Pelosi represents California’s 8th District, which includes most of the City and County of San Francisco. San Francisco, in case you’ve been living on another planet, is one of the most liberal areas in the Country. Ms. Pelosi is comparatively moderate in her views in comparison to her constituents whom have overwhelmingly elected her to the House eleven times (in every election since 1987 she has received at least 75% of the votes in her district). Ms. Pelosi in fact represents the views of her constituents far more moderately than the majority of her constituents themselves express their views. If you had even a rudimentary understanding of this Country’s legislative process, you would understand that Ms. Pelosi is doing exactly what she is responsible for doing as a member of the House. The primary purpose of the House of Representatives in our bifurcated legislative system is to represent the majority view of the citizens of the members’ districts. It is the role of the Senate to represent the broader views of the States as a whole. Ms.Pelosi is doing her job, and doing it to the satisfaction of her constituents. As a member of the House of REPRESENTATIVES, that is exactly what she is charged under our Constitution with doing. While I don’t particularly care for most of Ms. Pelosi’s views, or those of her Constituents, I can hardly find her derelict in her duties.

And while I don’t particularly care for Ms. Pelosi (she’s not the worst of the bunch and certainly not the best), I don’t entirely disagree with her comments that much of the disruptive tactics and blatantly false accusations currently coming from some groups in our society are un-patriotic. I never considered the Vietnam War protesters that visited us at Fort Bragg, including Jane Fonda, who used very similar tactics to those now employed by the fringe on the right, to be patriotic Americans. I have always considered their tactics un-American, irrespective of their message. Now, if you agree with me that the much of the disruptive, mean-spirited, slanderous and false invectives of many groups involved in the Vietnam Conflict protests to be un-American, how the HELL do you fault Pelosi for condemning similar tactics from the fringe far-right?

This brings me to another point concerning Pelosi. Ms. Pelosi’s accusations that she was not entirely informed and in fact was intentionally misled during CIA briefings on the Hill is very likely substantially accurate. I doubt seriously that any intelligence agency is going to jeopardize a clandestine operation by disclosing it to a liberal congresswoman from San Francisco. Christ, lying and misleading are part of the curriculum at McLean. No Chief of Station or Case Officer can run his station or his local agents without being adept at manipulating information. There is an oft quoted saying in McLean about dealing with Congress: “It’s always easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.” While even I (being generally law-abiding) in the same circumstances would have been hesitant to fully brief someone like Pelosi, Ms. Pelosi’s version of the events in question is very, very likely substantially accurate.

Recently released CIA memorandum indicates that several personnel at the time had expressed concerns that they were knowingly violating U.S. law with some aspects of the program, and that there would likely be consequences later. Now when you have a minute of lucid sobriety think about it; if they were aware at the time that there was a very strong likelihood that the operation had gone out-of-bounds, do you REALLY think that they are going to go before Nancy Pelosi, of all people, and say, “We know we’re over the line on this one, but we just wanted to let you know that we’re going to continue this for a while longer.” I mean seriously Dennis; you have to be mentally retarded to think that any operative of any U.S. intelligence agency is going to fully and accurately brief a bleeding-heart liberal member of Congress with a big mouth on ongoing harsh interrogation techniques. That would be about prudent as pinning a sign on his/her back pants pocket saying “Prosecute My Ass.” Sober up Dude. Get real.

I was no fan of Ted Kennedy, but the demonizing of Kennedy by Rush and others over Chappaquiddick and his past alcohol abuse I do find just a little (well a lot) disingenuous.  If the wing-nuts on the right are going to condemn people for vehicular homicide, where is the outrage over former first lady Laura Bush’s 1963 (very likely)DUI-induced accident that killed a high school classmate? Where is your outrage over Dick Cheney’s past DUI’S – two within 8 months during his draft deferments? Or Cheney’s flunking out of Yale? Or Cheney’s FIVE draft deferments? Cheney himself admitted that he had intentionally avoided military service because he had “other priorities in the '60s than military service." Would not FIVE draft deferments to avoid military service and Vietnam warrant labeling Cheney as a DRAFT DODGER?

I have never been able to comprehend how that drunk-ass ignorant draft dodger became not only a Secretary of Defense, but a Vice-President! ONLY the self-righteous “conservatives” would pick a leader whose own conduct was so anti-ethical. And only another drunk-ass ignorant draft dodger like Rush Limbaugh would hold Cheney up as a mentor and role model. It’s like Mussolini looking up to Hitler.

I keep wondering what Cheney’s “other priorities in the '60s than military service" were. Then I realized that those other oh-so important priorities were drinking and driving! I seriously doubt that there has ever been anyone more quietly detested within the Pentagon and at the Army War College in Carlisle than Dick Cheney. Well, maybe Don Rumsfeld. Even silly-ass Ted Kennedy deserves more respect. He at least SERVED, however ingloriously.

Would you not concede that intentionally avoiding the draft is Un-American? If you believe that it is somehow patriotic to avoid the draft, then I believe that your sense of “right and wrong” is really fucked up.

In my opinion, Ted Kennedy was an asshole and a joke for most of his life. But he was for the most part a harmless asshole. Cheney, on the other hand, has caused more devastation to this Country than a rabid Pit Bull loose in a preschool.

If you, as a self-professed decorated Veteran, can view either Dick Cheney or Rush Limbaugh with anything other than distain, then there is something SERIUOSLY wrong with your thought processes and your loyalties. No officer loyal to the uniform should EVER respect a “Chicken Hawk.” To give respect to a war monger whom actively avoided service (in combat or otherwise) is to disrespect those that did their duty when called and most especially those that gave their lives on the battlefield.

My point in bringing up Cheney, Limbaugh, and even Ted Kennedy is that if you are going to expend the energy to spew invective insults willy-nilly, at least have some objective, factual basis for doing so.

To summarize, where the hell is your head, other than up your ass?

Wed, 09/02/2009 - 15:06 | 56497 Anonymous
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Way to go. What a great American. Too bad she could care less what the American public thinks. She has her own agenda and it does not include supporting the Constitution or the precepts of the founding Fathers. It is refreshing to hear someone stand up to the left like that.

Sat, 12/12/2009 - 19:32 | 161538 Anonymous
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Mr. Guthrie,

Thank you very much for expressing the sentiments of many of us to Senator Pelosi.

I would say that thousands of your compatriots have your back.

Please feel our gratitude for your patriotism.

If there was a way that I would feel that she would recieve the message I would like
to give her a piece of my mind.

My brother went to the 9/12 project and then went back last month to meet with legislators.

Where there should have been Marines in dress blues there were Capitol Police dressed
in full black riot gear with loaded (yes, you could see that) automatic weapons.

No one was admitted to (our) buildings.......or even on the sidewalks.

No Democrat law makers exposed themselves to the (peacefu)l crouds.

Maybe they should have got what they were expecting.

Keep your powder dry.

Thank you

Mon, 12/21/2009 - 21:41 | 171301 Anonymous
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Anonymous,
Your reference to Senator Pelosi, as you refered to
her, is the Speaker of The House Of representative and not a member of the U.S. Senate. This only
confirms your ignorance because you are being led
by the nose by the illogic and hatful Mr. Guthrie.

The Hawk

Tue, 12/22/2009 - 00:07 | 171381 Anonymous
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annonyous,
Your sentiments echoing Mr. Guthrie's letter to
Senator Pelosi's letter only showed youe ignorance
and being led by the nose by the illogic and hateful
Mr. Gthrie. For your inforomation Speaker Pelosi as
you addressed her is a member of the House of representative and not the U. S Senate.

the Eagle

Tue, 12/22/2009 - 00:29 | 171390 Anonymous
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Anonymous,
Your thank you to Mr Guthrie's letter expressing
his sentiments to you and many others regarding
Senator Pelosi.For your information, Speaker
of the House, Nancy Pelosi is a member of the
House Of Reprsentation and not the U.S Senate. This
shows your ignorance and a blind puppet to the
illogical and hateful Mr. Guthrie.

The Eagle

Fri, 02/05/2010 - 22:46 | 220118 Anonymous
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Mr. Gunthrie
You stated in your letter that our country will be a socialistic country under president Obama. You also
stated that you are apporaching your 65th birthday.
Please stand by your convictions concerning socialism
and decline enrolling in the government rum Medicare
program. Could this be a socialistic program?

Thu, 02/11/2010 - 13:02 | 226828 Anonymous
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Hey Dennis - right on the money. You should go to that craphole of a place, SF - and beat her out for her seat!!! That would be perfect~!

Thu, 02/11/2010 - 16:17 | 227284 Anonymous
Anonymous's picture

Anonymous,

Your right, Dennis should go to that craphole,SF-
because Dennis is nothing but crap himself and he
will fit right in among the weirdo's.

Sun, 03/14/2010 - 00:11 | 264787 Anonymous
Anonymous's picture

Shakespeare had this letter writer pegged centuries ago.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Sun, 03/14/2010 - 20:37 | 265352 Anonymous
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Don Quixote hit it on the head when dealing with
misleading lunaties like Guntrie, "facts are the enemy of truth."

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