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Greek Police Fire Teargas At Anti-Israel Protestors
Greece siding with Turkey - the end is nigh. Reuters reports: "Greek police fired teargas on Monday at demonstrators protesting outside the Israeli embassy in Athens over Israel's storming of a Gaza-bound aid flotilla and the killing of pro-Palestinian activists. "Dozens of protesters tried to break a police cordon, and police responded with teargas," said a Reuters witness. About 2,500 protesters rallied outside the embassy, police said, chanting "Hands off Gaza".
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Greeks siding with Turks! The crimes of Israel make greeks and turks unite against it!
Tomorrow we will see greeks and turks side by side in Cyprus protesting against Israel...
And they will use them in 1 sec without permission..This could get really big..
ya a nuke would be big explosion, very very big :-)
What about Iran ? Isreal could be taken out with ONE nuke.
What about Iran? Iran doesn't have any nuclear weapons. No other state or country in the middle east has them, except for Israel.
Yes, so far the 70 year old technology somehow still eludes them.
That, of course, is not necessarily a bad thing. It's too bad that humans found a way to harness such power and then use(d) it solely to threaten. In the case of the US, they remain the only nation in history to have ever used them on another nation. A terrible event, but let us hope that it is indeed the last.
Golly gee bettysswollensack, aw shucks. "Let us hope" lol yeah you "hope" in one hand and shit in the other and see what you get.
What a colluded metaphor. But if I were to hold hope in one hand and shit in the other, I'd probably find myself, sadly, living under your roof, no less.
ha, ha! WTG Betty. It amazes me the number of assholes there are here. Arrested development. I really get optimistic about the future when I run into people like that. :) As I said in another thread, "what is it with men and nukes anyway?"
So far they've been hugely helpful. Europe got to be rich and safe and free after WWII, instead of communist, thanks to nuclear deterrence. The Korean war ended thanks to threat of their use (zillions of South Koreans are very thankful). Oh, and at least a millions lives were saved by bombing Nagasaki and Hiroshima using them. Go on whinging about "men and nukes though" if you insist. Everybody has the right to be inconsequential and glib. It is a free country after all, thanks in part to nuclear weapons....
Right,... except for the part where the Cold War was actually a fabrication by Churchill the Americans bought (thanks to 2 (very) special agents), to throw the US and the USSR against each other and allow the UK to rise again and (attempt to) rule over Europe.
Betty,
Let's not forget esp on this day, WHY we used them.
The Japanese were told in advance...they ignored the warning.Then, after the fist, they were asked again to surrender, or else.............they CHOSE the or else, and the first...........
EGO is a terrible Green Eyed Monster..................the desire to subjugate the human race, has always come at an insane price.
By using the weapons, it saved over 500,000 American soldiers alone, and another likely 2yrs of War.
So, was it worth it?.....sadly, Yes.
Yeah....and allowed MacArthur to get palsy with the emperor aka the dude that all Japanese would die for...they don't make like mac any more.....ummm or do they Rham?
Aint Jealousy supposed to the green eyed monster?
Whatever, you are wrong in your appreciation of the situation.
Why not tell that the event helped to save the lifes of 100 billions people?
It would be as measured as your surmise.
All that is known for sure is the number of people killed by this event.
Dont try to substitute facts with your fantasy.
ironic how you probably feel like they shouldn't have the right to bear them, yet mock them for not possessing them. glad you could share your tolerant and receptive opinion with us.
It is a shame that any dictatorship has nuclear weapons, whatever their race or culture. You can quote me on that. As to the intolerance etc, indeed, some dictatorships got the technology working faster than others. The dumber ones tend to get there last. That is a very good thing.
What has dictactorship to do with the whole business?
South Africa had nuclear power bombs. When turning a democracy, certain powers, US leading the way, put the condition that they would only back up the process if South Africa did not relinquish the nuclear power bombs.
South Africa under Apartheid: nuclear bombs.
To access democracy, South Africa had to give up nuclear power bombs.
So how is it shameful?
Not so fast!
U.N. Report Says Iran Has Fuel for 2 Nuclear Weapons
U.N. Report Says Iran Has Fuel for 2 Nuclear Weapons
My money is they ALREADY have at least One deliverable Nuke.........
Face it, World Peace is at stake if any of the affected parties USES's a Nuke.
What find amazing is Israel is a TINY nation, surrounded by 250 Billion people wanting them dead, and gone.
They have BEEN there,DONE that routine before..........NO one would not do WHATEVER it takes to survive, and protect their own,in similar circumstances.
As Forest Gump said, "Stupid is as Stupid does".
What if you(insert country) were in Israels shoes?................I have been on the globe for a while, never do I remember a time, when someone was not trying to exterminate the Jewish people's......never.
I'm sorry -- "What find amazing is Israel is a TINY nation, surrounded by 250 Billion people wanting them dead, and gone," should actually read What I find amazing is Israel is a TINY nation, surrounded by 250 billion (although there are not 250 billion on the entire planet) people whom Israel hates and wants nothing more than to see them all dead.
"Isreal could be taken out.." Yes, yes but it has to be delivered, ay theres the rub. (feigns consternation)
it's israel. love it, spell it.
Oh, of course... If one opposes Israel, he hates jews...
So, we can conclude that thousands of jews around the world that oppose Israel are schizophrenic...
Face it, dude, you're a racist. You hate A-rabs. We get it. Thanks.
Go fuck yourself.
I am Chumbawamba, etc.
Of the two of us I am the one that doesn't call for genocide. You are a big talker; if you backed it up you would be in Lebanon getting fitted for an exploding vest. But you mostly just talk a lot of cheap shit from anonymity and cheat on your taxes. Figures.
imo chum and betty misread zina. the point is that opposing israel is not anti semitic (or more accurately anti jew) as many jews (glenn greenwald, naomi klein, tony judt) oppose israel's policies (they are not psychotic).
I only hate that blue Na'avi aliens. I don't hate any race from planet Earth.
Uh, yea. Being indifferent to Israel's lousy foreign policy makes you someone that hates a religion. And those who practice that religion, and dislike the foreign policy of Israel, makes them schizophrenic(?).
Please tell me that you're not breeding.
Israel's foreign policy is protecting its citizens and itself from rocket and artillery attacks, and from terrorism generally speaking, Sweaty. The idiots who set out to run the blockade were invited to deliver any humanitarian supplies they might be carrying through normal channels, i.e. by docking and having the aid thoroughly inspected. Obviously they were seeking to create an incident here, as there was no chance the IDF would let the boats pass directly. Duh. Boats can carry a lot of explosives, propellants, and similar bits useful for making further rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza.
Wonder what would happen in this country if another country set up a naval blockade and prevented ships from coming and going into our ports. I imagine we would be slightly pissed off. Sorry dude, no one but the Jews and radical right Christians are buying Israel's bullshit. It's genocide and then we are supposed to be pissed when Gazans object to their extermination.
What other countries on this planet do you oppose so fiercely or even more, beside the State of Israel?
I oppose Sudan's government attitude in Darfur.
And I oppose Turkey's and Iran's governments attitude on Kurds.
Why?
Obviously, there is a difference between opposing attitude of governments of the named countries and opposing the existing country itself. The difference becomes also clear from that you are cheering Turkey, since it goes against Israel. Do you also have your own word for your opposition against those attitudes, like you have your own word for your opposition to Israel, which is "Anti-zionism". Do you call also the militaries of Turkey and Iran, "Nazi-military"?
No, you haven't really answered my question what other countries you oppose as fiercely or more as Israel. I guess Israel takes some exceptional role in your world view.
Oh, shut up with this bullshit. You aren't making sense.
The reason people harbor an exceptional hatred for Israel is because Israel commits an exceptional level of exceptionally brutal acts, including occupation, torture, using human shields, killing women/children/babies indiscriminately, etc.
Guess what? 1 + 1 still = 2.
That's why.
Douche.
And Tony Karon is the Rootless Cosmopolitan. You're just a sad pretender.
http://tonykaron.com/
I am Chumbawamba.
Well, such propaganda are the rationalizations of the Israel haters, with which they justify their exceptional hatred against Israel and singling out Israel as if Israel was the country with the most severe human rights violations in this world, and as if Palestinians were the ones who suffered most from violence and war in this world.
And are you sure you are not talking about your friends from Hamas? After all, you seem to regret that Israel doesn't allow a free flow of weapons to Gaza. Hamas are calling in their charter exactly for what you accuse Israel (indiscriminate slaughter), and they have lots of practice with deliberate indiscriminate killings and using Palestinian civilians as human shields.
As for Tony Karon. How I see it the name of his blog is "rootless cosmopolitan", it's not his alias. And I have used my alias since long before I knew about his blog. Perhaps you should go to him and whine about it.
I don't know what motivates Karon. For an author of a "rootless cosmopolitan" blog, he has a lot of sympathy for the nationalist cause of the Palestinians. Coming from South Africa, maybe he feels guilty about the history of apartheid there, and transforms this guild in some pro-Palestinian nationalist partisanship? Who knows.
and you've got to acknowledge that for u.s. citizens, israel has a truly unique place as a creation of the truman administration and utterly singular recipient of nearly limitless u.s. treasure, weaponry and political support since 1948.
People assemble to protest the actions of Israel's military and, ridiculously, they are now labelled as 'Jew-haters'.
For the record, and to defeat your own ignorance, the religious affiliation of the Israeli population (7.3 million - 2008) is not only Jewish, although it is the majority at 75%. Others are Muslim (16%), Christian (2%) and Druze (1.5%).
However, other sources indicate that between 15% and 37% of Israelis identify themselves as either agnostics or atheists.
Think of these numbers the next time you post something so bone-headed.
You obviously fail to understand that "Jewish" is both a race and a religion.
ahh 16:20 brother. fat ass willy @ 4:20
Word, although it was 1:20 where I live, I'll smoke to that :)
LOL. Want to know why Jewish is NOT a race, ignoramus? Judaism is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry.
For instance, Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are both "Jewish." However, whereas Ashkenazi Jews often hail from Europe, Sephardic Jews often hail from the Middle East. People of many different races have become Jewish over the centuries.
Anything else you'd like to consume my valuable oxygen on, FAT ASS?
I see. Doesn't change the fact that Jews consider themselves a race, does it?
For example, any person born of a Jewish woman is considered fully Jewish, and is allowed into Israel with full Jewish rights, regardless of religious affiliation.
Please refrain from using insults; it only makes you look like an uneducated, emotional moron.
Well if Jews are a race then so are Scientologists.
Figure that one out, Einstein (who was anti-Zionist, or as the Zionists called him, "self-hating Jew").
I am Chumbawamba.
You seem to be under the impression that I support Israel, I can't figure out why.
I don't care. I'm waiting for you to capitulate on this "Jews are a race" tripe.
If Jews are a race, so are Scientologists.
Refute me.
I am Chumbawamba.
They are a race, because they consider themselves a race while having the money, power, and bloodthirst to back that claim up. In this world, might is right, simple as that.
I already had wondered how this one got to his view that Jewish people generally consider themselves a "race", because I haven't noticed such a thing. But it's just another anti-semit talking and projecting his delusions. No further questions.
#384755. Idiot.
Also, you (and that dimwit with the koala avatar) have not refuted my point; is a person, born of a Scientologist woman, automatically a Scientologist? I like you, chumba, so please refrain from further lapses in reasoning.
I don't know, and I don't care. The point is that the concept is silly when you consider that race is predicated primarily on genetics while religion spans all races.
A European Jew and a Chinese Jew can consider themselves to be of the same race, and I can consider myself to be a superbeing descended from gods, but our DNA will tell otherwise.
I am Chumbawamba.
Well if Jews are a race then so are Scientologists.
That's a beaut!
Einstein also claimed to be "proud to belong to the oldest race of people on earth"
...go figure... Being Jewish seems to mean whatever one wants when it suits... and not when not
Bingo!
It wsn't an insult. I was merely CAPITALIZING on your name, FAT ASS.
The fact that you think I'm fat helps to prove your stupidity, as does the fact that you don't think "ignoramus" is an insult. Seriously, just shut up, because you are an idiot who appeals to emotion, not logic.
The fact that you think I'm fat helps to prove your stupidity, as does the fact that you don't think "ignoramus" is an insult.
I didn't state that I didn't think that ignoramus is an insult. You are what you are. LOL. I don't think that you're fat. Why, are you? Did you buy a new dress?
Anyway, once again, it was your pseudonym that I was highlighting (theFATASSwilly). It has nothing to do with you personally. I don't know you, and I care not if you're horizontally challenged.
Oh, and I think you just contradicted yourself (again):
...because you are an idiot who appeals to emotion, not logic.
You did. Twice. In one sentence! You did also did it in your opening sentence when you called me stupid. So who's name-calling and fraught with emotion, devoid of logic now, hmm?
PFFFFT!
Yes, you did state that you didn't think ignoramus is an insult. Please read your own babble.
I'm done wasting time with you, because you are a simple minded fool who resorts to name calling immediately in an attempt to prove a point. Your arguments are illogical, and are more fluff / personal insults than substance.
You can't even refute my arguments, and instead simply repeat the same argument twice in two different threads, thereby wasting space and time.
So yes, you are correct. I am fat, I appeal to emotion, I am devoid of logic. You are absolutely correct.
So yes, you are correct. I am fat, I appeal to emotion, I am devoid of logic. You are absolutely correct.
Ugh, finally. The first step is admitting it. Another successful intervention.
You obviously refer to "race" in terms of biology here. Neither is there an "Ashkenazi" race, nor a "Sephardic" race. Distinguishing different biological sub-species of Homo sapiens sapiens doesn't have any scientific validity. Human races are something that is socially and ideologically constructed.
And before the next one makes some invalid comment, the reality of racism as a relation of power over and oppression of people, which is justified with what the content of racist ideology is, doesn't have the existence of biological races as pre-condition.
And, third, anti-semitism isn't just a variant of racism, which already can be seen from that anti-semits see the targeted group as an omnipotent and superior force, whereas in racist ideologies the targeted groups are rather seen as inferior.
Well, Judaism is a racist ideology, then, since the Talmud contains many verses that denigrate the Gentile, does it not?
Damn, dude, you make it too easy. Please up the difficulty level to 10. I've been at this a long time.
I am Chumbawamba.
Is there anything with what you don't agree in my comment? And where did I write something about verses in relgious scripts and derived a statement from this? So, it seems you just project something in my comment that's not in there.
However, if you just wanted to make clear that you have been at spreading hatred against Judaism and Israel for a long time, I certainly believe you. Why wouldn't I?
Jews have always been targeted because they are viewed as "superior"??? You better open up a history book fool.
LOL. You can't even read, but call me a "fool"? Where am I supposed to have said that Jewish people have "always" been targeted because they were viewed as "superior"? I made a statement about a difference between racism and anti-semitism. If someone hallucinates that a Jewish minority allegedly was controlling whole countries, the media, the political elites, that Jewish people had superior control over money and power and were so omnipotent that they were behind the world wars and many other wars, behind revolutions, and "capitalism" and "communism" then this isn't a picture of an allegedly inferior group of people. This is a picture painted by people who feel inferior compared to the targeted group, instead. That doesn't mean that Jewish people have "always" been targeted because they have been seen as superior. To be sure, anti-semitism can also come with racist elements. The anti-semitism of the Nazis had also a strong racist component. What I am saying is that anti-semitism isn't just a variation of racism. There are differences between racist thinking and anti-semitic thinking, which are substantial.
But it seems Jews are the only ones who want to be a race and a religion, choosing one over the other as it suits them.
And as for anti-semites, given that the majority of Israelis are from either Russia or Europe, aren't they the real anti-semites?
The word "race" is poorly defined genetically. It has very limited use as a concept in modern science.
It's categorization. Race is mostly artificially agreed to include 3 main categorization components. Black has a slightly thicker brow. White has a v shaped teeth layout. Asian has a more rounded teeth layout. According to this categorzation american indians, eskimo's etc are asian.
Persian fit in with caucasion in this definition as does Jewish.
That categorization has some ground. Every race has kinda combination of features which is uncommon for others. Though any single one could be well presented.
And it's not only about skin. Look at how Asian and Blacks are built from anatomic point of view.
Even our metabolism and perspiration slightly differ. Blood group distribution and lactose intolerance also come to mind.
Well, I don't assume that all the protesters are Jew-haters, necessarily, but how are the numbers you mention here supposed to show that they couldn't be? If only 75% of Israel's population is Jewish, or 15 to 37% of the Israelis are atheists or agnostics the protesters can't be Jew-haters? There isn't any logic in this.
Get someone else to read it to you, since you're having trouble.
How would reading to me help me with understanding what the logic in your comment is supposed to be? Please explain.
I'm afraid that we'll need an entire team to read both this and the previous posts and the subsequent answers to you. Seeing as an entire team is not available at this time, please try your questions later between regular business hours when a representative will be available to assist you.
I already have thought so.
At this rate "200 nukes" is about 10,000 too few.
Greeks were always sympathetic to the plight of Palestinians, but they also recognize the state of Israel and respect its legitimate right to exist as a nation state.
In terms of policy, yes. But the mood on the street does not parallel policy.
Leo, for a Greek you seem to be missing the Greek public's sentiment time and again. The Greeks are against genocide, plain and simple, Leo.
What is this "plight of Palestinians" supposed to be to which Greeks always have been sympathetic? This sounds to me like such a hollow phrase. Gaza is being ruled by Hamas an islamist, deeply anti-semitic organization, supported by a big part or even the majority of the Palestinian population, whose "plight" is the violent destruction of Israel and driving out the Jewish people from "occupied Palestine" or even murdering them (see Hamas charter). Exactly ignoring this and ignoring that this isn't about some "just cause" pursued by the Palestinians is one of the fundamental flaws of large fractions of the political left, for whom "anti-zionism" (i.e., Israel is made to the Jew under the states) is a central point of their political self-identification. So they find themselves in alliances with islamists and anti-semits.
..got new for ya - - Hamas was funded by Israel ... to undercut Fatah. Sry that didn't work out as planned.
This is a rumor, not proven, that I have encountered more than once, which is brought as an argument to justify what exactly? Even if it was true what is supposed to follow from this with respect to what I wrote?
You foregot to preface your comment with "IMHO" because that is all it is -- your opinion.
If the Jordainian's allowed the so called Palestinians back home, this would be a far calmer situation.........
As I said, been on the globe a while.....cannot rememer a time that Israel, seized lands, except as spoils of war's.....that they did not start.
You're a complete moron. There are anti-semitic Greeks who hate Jews, just like in any other nation, but your gross generalization shows your ignorance of history. When the Nazis were slaughtering Jews in Greece, many Orthodox Greeks risked their lives trying to protect Greek Jews. Go to the island of Crete where I'm from and visit the cemetery where they burried thousands of Nazis. It's humbling to say the least. I simply cannot read these ignorant comments on ZH from ahistorical morons who know nothing about Greek history. Damn right I junked you! Fool!
(P.S. I've met many Israeli hotties vacationing on the Greek islands. We welcome all Israelis to Greece, especially those hot Israeli babes!)
Thank you, Leo. The lack of historical perspective as well as current geopolitical knowledge among so many astute people is nothing short of depressing.
But it's also encouraging that they can further their education here eh.
These actions by these particular Israelies are clearly wrong any which way you look at it. Aggresive, murderous, Illegal, unethical, immoral, etc etc etc. Thats not to say all Israelies are bad, of course they are not, but whoever called the shots on this brutal attack on an aid convoy (I wont even get started on the many previous aggresive, murderous, destructive illegal actions) are doing no favours for Israel, or indeed the rest of the world.
Israel need to start acting with the same respect to others that they demand for themselves or they WILL eventually stir up enough hate that they will seal their own fate.
Any aid convoys can bring humanitarian supplies to Gaza in any quantity they want to. What they can't do is go directly to Gaza to unload anything. Israel merely requires that all the cargoes be inspected thoroughly to confirm that no weapons or weapons components are included in the shipments. How is this justified? Well, whoever is in control of Gaza seems unable to stop the rocket attacks on Israel launched from Gaza. Therefore Israel takes measures any government would take to protects its territory and citizens from attacks launched from an ungoverned neighboring territory.
Well, I guess the lack of a free flow of weapons to Hamas for their war against Israel is what many of the Israel-haters here really enrages.
Maybe its the free flow of weapons to Israel - paid for with American tax dollars - for their war against everyone in the region which enrages so many - especially Americans. But as America is almost broke ... it won't last much longer (better hurry up and start a war then!)
+ 1000
"Humanitarian Aid" to the whacko Hamas is worth an inspection.
Yup.
Oh please, Leo. Spare me the history lesson. My point was clearly about "Israel hating", which you interpreted as "Jew hating".
Reading comprehension skills in need of some work there?
And your point about Israeli chicks is the middle eastern equivalent of "some of my best friends are black".
You're a twat.
Funny, Popo in Greek means "ass" - as in pain in the ass! And God bless those hot Israeli babes! Here is one of my favorites (she sets the Bar!):
Lebanese chicks are way hotter
Wow. Dyslexia set in for second. I thought it said 'Lesbian'. Must be a Freudian thing.
You mean like Ellen DeGeneres? She just doesn't do it for me.
There are beautiful women all around the world. And yes Lebanese babes are drop dead gorgeous. Miss USA 2010 is a Lebanese American beauty, Rima Fakih:
OT, but I love being the 20th junker. As that post gets removed and the thread gets a new parent I made Leo replay to himself with a "You're a complete moron." :)
That's my contribution today. That you to all the 19 junkers before me.
As the grandson of a Greek partisan who slaughtered Nazis and saved upwards of a hundred European Jews as a link in an underground railroad, here's a Greek who is on one side: that of the Israeli people and the Palestinian people.
Let's keep our eye on the ball here, folks. This is all about retarded, corrupt, homicidal politicians and power brokers using their civilian populations and military as pawns to enrish themselves and keep their little Ponzi going.
We can all agree that Congress, Vouli, Knesset and Fatah all share the same need, that of forests of nooses to spirit them all to a better place.
much respect to the greek resistance. for more serious then the farcical french resistance.
facts for Popo
During World War II, Greece was conquered by Nazi Germany and occupied by the Axis powers. 12, 898 Greek Jews fought in the Greek army, one of the best-known amongst them being Colonel Mordechai Frizis, in a force which first successfully repelled the Italian Army, but was later overwhelmed by German forces.[8] 86% of the Greek Jews, especially those in the areas occupied by Nazi Germany and Bulgaria, were murdered despite efforts by the Greek Orthodox Church hierarchy and many individual Christian Greeks to shelter Jews. Although the Germans and Bulgarians[18] deported a great number of Greek Jews, others were successfully hidden by their Greek neighbours.
On July 11, 1942, the Jews of Thessaloniki were rounded up in preparation for deportation to the German camps. The community paid a fee of 2.5 billion drachmas for their freedom, the effect of which was only to delay deportation until the following March. 46,091 people were sent to Auschwitz. 1,950 returned[2] to find most of their sixty synagogues and schools destroyed.[17] Many survivors emigrated to Israel and the United States.[2] Today the Jewish population of Thessaloniki numbers roughly 1,000, and maintains two synagogues.[17]
The Foundation for the Advancement of Sephardic Studies and Culture writes "One cannot forget the repeated initiatives of the head of the Metropolitan See of Thessaloniki, Gennadios, against the deportations, and most of all, the official letter of protest signed in Athens on March 23, 1943, by Archbishop Damaskinos, along with 27 prominent leaders of cultural, academic and professional organizations. The document, written in a very sharp language, refers to unbreakable bonds between Christian Orthodox and Jews, identifying them jointly as Greeks, without differentiation. It is noteworthy that such a document is unique in the whole of occupied Europe, in character, content and purpose".[2]
If any doubt remains:
The 275 Jews of the island of Zakynthos, however, survived the Holocaust. When the island's mayor, Carrer, was presented with the German order to hand over a list of Jews, Bishop Chrysostomos returned to the Germans with a list of two names; his and the mayor's. The island's population hid every member of the Jewish community. When the island was almost levelled by the great earthquake of 1953, the first relief came from the state of Israel, with a message that read "The Jews of Zakynthos have never forgotten their Mayor or their beloved Bishop and what they did for us."
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You'll have to forgive the likes of Popo, et al. They seem to all be out and about today. Theirs is formed out of opinion as fed to them by the likes of AIPAC and the corporate lamestream media.
They're told (and told to think) that anyone who speaks out against Israel in any way, shape or form, possesses outright hatred against the state of Israel and the Jewish people (even though Israel is not made up solely of those who practice Judaism).
So when they see or read of the protests that are going on around the world, they associate that with hatred. It's a trigger, if you will. Part of the conditioning. And they get into a lather, foam at the mouth and post drivel that all Greeks hate Jews. Which, in a form, is a hateful and contradictory statement unto itself.
+100000000000000!
+1
Couldnt agree more....
To put this to scale for you, where you live, do you get regular rocket and artillery attacks from neighboring counties? Do residents of neighboring counties train their children that their highest destiny would be to strap shrapnel-stuffed bombs to themselves and blow up restaurants in your town? Have the surrounding states, on multiple occasions, set out on armed assaults of your county intent on nothing short of genocide? I'm assuming no, obviously.
Spare me the history lesson. I know it. Learn to read. I didn't say "anti-semitic", I said "Israel hating".
You do understand the difference, yes?
You are another typical Lush Rimjob idiot, a pro-Israel-no-matter-what monkey.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
lol..when in Greece and you have nothing to lose, you side with those in the same boat!!! lol
What's the difference between "jew bashing" and "Goldman Sachs bashing"?
Hank Paulson?
You fucking idiot.
Jews give 10 percent of their earnings to God.
Goldman Sachs gives 90 percent of what the company makes as bonuses.
Tithing is a stock dividend for God.
But Goldman does God's work, as they Themselves Profess. Thus, Retaining 90% is Intuitively Justified. As for the Other 10%, Tithing must be Undertaken for the Glory of God, no?
Interesting, for is it not the foregoing discussions that the Power Elite encourage, the Dismemberment of Polemics, whilst they further Manage the Great Upheavals, Justifying the Demands of Increased Concentrations of Power to be Funded by and Utilized to "Altruistically Direct" the Common Man.
Quick, Distractions Men!
The Greater, the More Beneficial to the Cause!
Glue Them to Our Media.
Let Them Never realize the Actions Undertaken Until They Believe Them to be Appropriately Necessary, and of Their Own Ideals.
Xerxes smiles today..
Cyprus forbade the flotilla's trip to Gaza; it took off from Famagusta, in the Turkish-occupied part of the island.
Greek leftwingers operate under the assumptions
Israel = USA = Very Bad,
Palestinians = Islam = Hamas = anti-USA = Very Very Good
:)
Let the racist morons bleed, not the jews.
"Jewish state", no intermarriage law between jews and non-jews allowed - who are the real racists.
Sure Israel is a racist state with racist laws. But lots of jews oppose Israel. I personally know two of them.
They oppose nothing. Their loyalties are with Israel.
"They oppose nothing".
So, try to explain this:
- http://www.nion.ca/
- http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
This guy really opposes them, or so it seems - http://www.realzionistnews.com/
Over generalization. Tell me you aren't that shallow, that closed, that incapable of thinking beyond the first thing that comes into your mind. Please.
Jeeeezus. If this board of smart folks freaks out like this, there is no hope for the planet. Everyone wants to hate someone so they can feel oh so tough. Scared children playing at being big boys. Thump your chests.
God damn you all.
If real strength was anywhere, it would be in leaders who could STOP! Stop. Stop.
It needs to be stopped. But it won't be.
as long as wasting life and limb is profitable, it won't stop.
+ 3600 to Miscreant above
Yup
Yes Israel really knows how to make friends.
They don't need friends. They need slaves. They are the chosen ones, remember. If zionism was about a home land for the jews, then why is it 2/3 of world jewry lives abroad? Israel is just a tool of domination, of a way to get the massive and gullible USA to work for the zionist interests of world domination. 700 bases in 130 countries must have some meaning.
And your solution would be to....deport them?
That was their goal for starting last two world wars. What are they still doing living all over the place. They should move to their beloved home land and leave our countries alone, and they can take their protected "minorities" with them.
If Jewish people were really so all-powerful that they could do all those things you halluzinate about them, you should be afraid, very afraid now, Nazi.
if Jews were so intellectually "omnipotent" , they would learn the lessen of history and realise that after the arab/muslim hating wears thin .... THEY will be next!
Sounds to me like a threat by someone who dreams of exactly this.
What "lesson of history" is this that Jewish people are supposed to learn?
That their promotion of anti-Arabism will back-fire as it promotes a racism that eventually comes full circle back at themselves. Of course, however, we know you will say that Jews aren't racist against arabs or anti-Islam. (yeah, right ... uh-huh...sure)
Give Palestine their rightful territory back (all of it), then re-settle the people of Israel... in Arizona!
"Why is it 2/3 of world jewry leaves abroad?"?
Perhaps because 2/3 of jewry are not stupid enough to go to a land forcefully seized from the arab palestinians, and are smart enough to keep living in the land where they and their parents born...
But they keep voting for politicians that "are good for Israel". Go figure. Loyalty.
Actually, most of the world is not favorable to Israel. Some think this is because of anti-Semitism, some think this is because of how Israel behaves. Either way, it ain't just the Greeks and Turks. Being in America, we get a very skewed picture of how much of the world sees Israel.
On a lighter note, the Greeks need to figure out a way to monetize the protest industry. They'd be out of debt in no time!
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In Paris (I live there) part of the champs elysees were assaulted by the pro palestinian demonstration. French police fired teargas too.
Why is this on Zero Hedge? Seriously, 5 stories about a pre-planned PR stunt with zero bearing on financial markets?
Oh, right. It's Memorial Day -- Time to take a day off from the global financial collapse and pay attention to what really matters?
Perhaps they loaded up on SPXU before the weekend.
From: http://www.zerohedge.com/content/zero-hedge-conflictsfull-disclosure-policy
"You should assume that at all times we are so totally just talking our book it would shock and awe you like the unexpected, early-morning arrival of a cluster of BGM-109C Tomahawks (were you a believer in the importance of "optics" that is).
If we make a off-hand remark about New Zealand sheep herders it's because we are long New Zealand West Island Cold Kut (NZ-WICK) Wool futures and Kiwi brand Condoms ("For it's pleasure"). If we are joking around about Cliff Asness, it's because we have developed a synthetic short of ARQ. If we jest about Joe Sixpack, it's because we are trying to hype our cheap-American-beer holdings so we can exit quickly."
Thanks I read the link.
"We have no intention of enabling the sort of thinking process that facilitates the widespread fleecing of the country by ratings agencies. ("Gee George, Moodys says its AAA-OK!"). In other words, we have no intention of treating you like "dumb money." Skeptical market participants have no need of unfortunately named "full disclosure" disclosures that purport to purge a writer of some sort of original sin and leave behind a pure, unadulterated intellect."
2 thumbs up zero!
In Holland things gotten a bit out of hand as well. Only watercannons here. No video found but a few picks;
http://tweetphoto.com/24916192
http://twitpic.com/1ssgxt
Divide and Conquer (1943) was the third film of Frank Capra's Why We Fight propaganda film series, dealing with the Nazi conquest of Western Europe in 1940.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7R_XtBuJyA
Somebody will be hiding in the future. A spider hole perhaps. Let's look at the last figure our military hunted down.
12/17/03: Saddams Last Stand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd-1i0bFEv4
Dictator's come and go.
Soros: China Must Be Part Of The New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjckJWqb0A
One of the biggest problems facing the gentleman Soros, his money empire is created out of thin air.
Atomizer
You do know there were rumors Saddam had been drugged and placed there by US troops as a bit of theater. Just like the paid for photo op of his statue being dragged down.
And this, gentlemen, is why a good scapegoat is worth thrice its weight in gold.
http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/actu-minute/2010/05/31/l-evolution-des-evenements-minute-par-minute_1365287_3218.html#ens_id=1228030
Key words: pirates, international waters, barbaric, safety of French citizens on board, sanctions
thanks WW for some keys words.
watching the french open and they haven't mentioned a thing about this over on the other side of the arch.
did mention extra security during the s williams against s peer match, for ms peer resides in israel. showed the extra guards during warm up. had some problems last year.
any more key words. i am very interested in what is going on in europe right now.
these articles on ZH are brutal to read.
i am glad i sorta dumb, i think it makes for less hatred inside, cause i don't know anything about these matters.