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Guest Post: An Agent Of The King In Every Home

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/03/2011 13:10 -0400

Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt Market

An Agent Of The King In Every Home

The legal concept of citizen privacy from
government intrusion is unfortunately a very new one in the long strides
of human history. The idea that government can be limited,
or restricted in its powers by the people, and that certain realms of
life can and should be off-limits to the prying eyes of bureaucracy, is
rarely applied in any culture of any era. This is because most civilizations have been founded and ruled upon the principles of military dominance. There was no separation between the government and the armies it fashioned; the government WAS the military. That
is to say, martial law was a way of life for society, privacy was a
foolish dream, and daring to contest the fact usually led to one’s
death.

The Magna Carta of 1215, which King John was
essentially forced to support, established a foundation for civil
liberties which would then be fought over for the next several
centuries. Beginning in 1627, and the ‘Petition of Right’
in Britain, common citizens began demanding a separation between
military and civilian life, as well as the dismantling of standing
armies which at that time were being used by the corrupt oligarchy as a
means to subdue the populace. The aristocracy called it “royal prerogative”. The masses called it tyranny. However, as we all know, such breaks in the suffocation of despotism are few and fleeting. Fractures
in the Petition of Right were frequent, and the aptitude of government
to make war (even when there is no call for war) became the common
excuse for the rulership to degrade civilian legal protections and
hurtle them back into the dark ages, where property is a novelty that
the authorities violate at their leisure.

During the years leading up to the American
Revolution, the British attempted to stifle the growing independent
nature of the colonies by issuing laws such as the ‘Writs of
Assistance’, bypassing rights to privacy and allowing officials to
search homes and businesses at will without probable cause, supposedly
in the name of “capturing smugglers”. Not fully satisfied
with this intrusion on the lives of the colonists, King George and his
cronies issued the ‘Quartering Acts’, which required all colonists to
welcome soldiers sent to subjugate them into their homes and to their
dinner tables. According to law, early Americans were not
only forced to allow warrant-less searches of their homes, they also had
to show hospitality to the goons sent to dirty their doorsteps!

The purpose of these actions by governments is to assert their control over a population. THAT – IS – ALL. Rationalizations
are always made; usually in the name of “protecting the public from
harm”, but the real name of the game is imperialism, and fear. When
the establishment violates the line of citizen privacy, and gives its
agents the legal free reign to enter your home at will, the message they
are trying to send is: “Your property is our property. Your life is our business. The law does not protect you. The law is our weapon.” In other words: Resistance is futile.

The Revolutionary War and the U.S. Constitution
should have been the final word on the matter of limited government and
the inherent rights of individuals. But, the Founding
Fathers only thwarted the elites for a time, and as long as such
powerful minorities of men exist, there will always be new methods of
tyranny, and new battles to be endured. Some may respond
skeptically, claiming that our society today is a far cry from the age
of British oppression and soldiers storming our living rooms and our
pantries. I would have to disagree of course, after I stopped cringing at their ignorance.

The 4^th Amendment A Fond Memory…

Last month in a 3-2 decision that has shocked the
independent media community but gone mostly unreported in the
mainstream, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled that citizens have no right
to block an officer’s entry into their home, even if the officer does
not have a warrant. The officer also does not have to give
any clear indication as to why he wishes to enter your home, meaning he
can enter without cause. Justice Steven David, one of the supporting judges stated:

“We believe … a right to resist an unlawful
police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible
with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence…”

“We also find that allowing resistance
unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of
injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest.”

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-indiana-supreme-court-critics-argue-landmark-indiana-ruling-violates-right-to-privacy-20110517,0,5143977.story

Keep in mind, this is the same Indiana court that
decided in a previous case that an officer serving a warrant is not
required to knock (make his presence known) before entering your home if
he feels circumstances require it. So, to clarify; if an
officer wishes to walk into your house, for any reason, he may do so,
without a warrant, and without even knocking. You cannot block his path. You cannot close your door and lock it. You cannot kick his ass. You can’t even discuss the matter calmly with him before hand. He just walks in, and, he is legally protected.

Amazing…

While the Indiana Supreme Court did follow the
decision by pointing out that a homeowner may protest an officer’s
wrongful search through the courts after the fact, this is hardly any
solace, and is almost adding insult to injury, since these are the exact
courts that have decided our 4^th Amendment rights no longer apply. Obviously,
once you allow authorities to savage your Constitutional freedoms, they
are hardly going to let you punish them later through their own court
system.

Indiana Sheriff Don Hartman Sr., in response to the
court ruling, stated in an interview that he believed the decision gave
him the power to conduct house to house warrant-less searches, an idea
which he still defends:

http://www.mikechurch.com/Today-s-Lead-Story/in-sheriff-if-we-need-to-conduct-random-house-to-house-searches-we-will.html

This is just the latest of a string of court decisions across the country which expand the definitions of applied law. That
is to say, there is a concerted and widespread effort by courts
(especially federal courts) to broaden the accepted language of the law,
so that, in fact, authorities can interpret the law to mean whatever
they wish it to mean for whatever purpose fits their specific needs at
the time.

Cell phones are fair game, according to courts in
California, and police now have the ability to search your personal data
when taken into custody, even if you have not been officially charged
with a crime:

http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-01-04/bay-area/26357969_1_cell-phones-searches-police-department

The Supreme Court has ruled that cops are allowed
to search your premises without a warrant if they “smell marijuana” and
“hear evidence being destroyed”. Just out of curiosity, what does it sound like when evidence is being destroyed? Does the Supreme Court have the sound on file somewhere? Without a doubt, certain not quite-so-honorable police will take advantage of this ridiculous decision:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/17/us/17scotus.html?_r=1

New Mexico has ruled that officers may confiscate
firearms from your vehicle during a traffic stop even if they have no
reasonable cause to do so, trampling the 2^nd Amendment as well as the 4^th. Also
in New Mexico (as in many states), if you have a conceal carry permit,
you are supposed to announce to the officer that you have a weapon on
your person. Meaning, now you have to let the traffic cop
know that you have a firearm in the car and hope he doesn’t decide to
take it away from you:

http://www.guns.com/nm-court-traffic-cops-can-seize-guns-even-if-no-law-has-been-broken.html

We saw the broadening tactic with the passage of
the Food Safety Bill S. 510 and the immensely heightened powers of the
FDA to regulate even the most minute farm activity. We also
saw it in the railroading of Liberty Dollar founder Bernard von NotHaus
by the Department of Justice when they used an obscure and loosely
worded statute, essentially comparing the coinage of ANY alternative
currency, no matter how distant in appearance to U.S. legal tender, to
counterfeiting. Now, we are seeing the tactic applied to the 4^th
Amendment itself, as law enforcement agents are given extreme prejudice
to interpret their rules of engagement however they see fit. Such corruption has occurred despite the application of the 4^th
Amendment, to be sure, but now, the ease at which it can occur and the
lack of any redress by citizens is so pronounced, there can be only one
outcome; police abuse on an incredible scale.

What we are witnessing is a time honored process
exploited by autocrats the world over, now being utilized right here in
America. What began with the passage of the FISA Bill and
the expansion of government power to tap and monitor any American’s
communications without a warrant, we are now seeing in our very
neighborhoods. The law is being fogged and obscured until
it is no longer clearly defined, which allows police and courts to
operate within a vast grey area of legal chicanery. All
social structures become warped in the wake of this process until we are
no longer able to recognize that which is lawful, and that which is
unlawful. In the end, we will discover that almost ANYTHING
can be labeled “illegal” by the establishment in such an environment,
and that no one, no matter how harmless and abiding, is safe from the
storm.

Going Down In Flames…

I see where this is heading, and the destination is
grim, but don’t take my word for it, just simply look at what is
happening around you. The divide between law enforcement and the citizenry is growing. With
the Department of Homeland Security now actively placing local police
and sheriff’s departments in military training regiments, in military
style gear, and even arming them with tanks and heavy machine guns (yes,
tanks and .50 cal machine guns), it is becoming much harder to qualify
local law enforcement as a civilian entity, rather than just another
extension of the Department of Defense:

http://reason.com/blog/2008/09/01/sheriff-lotts-new-toy

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_16004590

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41912754/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/why-do-americas-police-need-armored-tank/

Even if military outfits like Northcom are not used
openly as a standing army within the U.S., we already have a standing
army in the form of men who were once called peace officers, whose
mandate was once to “protect and serve”. Now, the words “to
protect and serve” are disappearing from police cars nationwide, and we
have a law enforcement community gearing up for war! The economic breakdown has exacerbated the situation even further. As
states lose more and more funding due to the crashing municipal bond
markets, they are now becoming completely dependent on federal cash. And, with federal cash, there are many unfortunate strings attached…

If you have been paying attention to
police brutality cases over the past few years, then you have noticed a
blatant trend towards swift and immediate unprovoked violence resulting
in terminal consequences. When law enforcement is trained
for combat, for attack, rather than defense, when they are conditioned
to believe that the public is the enemy, and that they are somehow
separate, or superior, very bad things begin to happen. Let’s take a short walk down memory lane…

Oscar Grant, 22, was shot in the back by police in
Oakland, CA, while restrained and laying on the ground, pleading with
officers that he had a four-year-old-daughter. The incident
was caught on at least three separate cell phone cameras (which may
have been one of the reasons why courts in CA are so keen on allowing
warrant-less search and seizure of cell phones). The
shooting officer, Johannes Mehserle, was eventually charged with
involuntary manslaughter (???) serving a two year sentence and eligible
for parole by the end of this year. If his actions had not
been caught on video and disseminated across the web, who knows if he
would have even been charged at all:

John T. Williams, 50, and nearly deaf in one ear, was shot by Seattle
police for whittling a piece of wood while walking across the street. Officer
Ian Birk exited his vehicle, claiming Williams was “acting strangely”,
yelled at him to drop the knife, then giving him less than ten seconds
to comply, fired several rounds from his weapon, killing the man. The officer later claimed that Williams walked towards him in a menacing fashion. Witnesses argued to the contrary. Note that Birk had already drawn his firearm as he exited the vehicle. Also
note that Birk did not identify himself as a police officer as is
required by law. Williams’ knife was also found folded shut by
responding officers to the scene. Birk resigned due to public pressure, but was not charged with a crime:

And most recently, Jose Guerena, 26, and a former marine, was shot 60
times (a sign of undisciplined fire) in Pima County, Arizona, by a
SWAT team entering his home also occupied by his wife and four-year-old
son. Guerena’s wife stated that she had seen men through the window with guns, but that they could not be identified. Guerena grabbed his rifle (as most marines would) and told his family to hide. The
Pima Sheriff’s Department has changed their story on this incident
several times now, but this much is clear; the department claimed
Guerena fired at them with his AR-15 as they entered the home. This was a lie. Guerena’s weapon had the safety still on after his death. When this fact was made public, Pima admitted that he never fired a shot. Pima claims that they have a warrant for the Guerena home, but have obtained a court order which had it sealed from the public. Why they had it sealed is unknown (did they even have the right house?). The Guerena raid was part of a neighborhood action, supposedly to bust a drug dealing operation in the area. No drugs were found in Guerena’s home. The reason why SWAT was necessary to serve the warrant in the first place is also still unclear:

My purpose in showing you these disturbing videos is not to make you hate cops. It is to illustrate a dangerous trend amongst our civil servants. Where
we once had a few “bad apples” to contend with in our police
departments, now we have official training handed down from the DOD
which practically requires law enforcement officials to undergo a combat
mindset, a psychology of aggression. In many cases, I believe, these officers are not doing what they do out of malice or ill intent. They are doing what they do because they are being TRAINED to do it. This is what happens when a society becomes militarized. It cannot be avoided, and it will only get worse from here on. Now
imagine a violent element like this being given unlimited power to
decide which homes they wish to enter and how they will enter them…

Why I Will Not Submit To A Warrant-less Search…

Constitutional values cannot defend themselves. They require the people to stand firm, and to never yield. Americans
today have yielded far too much already, and at some point very soon,
we’re going to have to make the hard choice on what is more important;
our general safety and personal comfort, or our freedoms and the
freedoms of future generations. Like the American Colonials, we have a system that does not serve our best interests, but the interests of an elite few. We are quickly losing our ability to dictate the terms of our own society, and our own destinies. Sadly, we are not yet presenting the determination that the colonials held in the face of this danger. Today, we are a nation mourning its own demise before it has even occurred. We have turned to reluctant compliance and submission. We are, frankly, whiny and pathetic.

This does not have to be.

While fantastic organizations like Oath Keepers are
working hard to educate police and military on their sworn duty to
uphold and defend Constitutional liberties, we as the citizenry must
also show our support and resolve to see that the values and principles
outlined in that historic document are not tarnished by apathy. The proverbial line in the sand must be drawn now, or not at all. This means, at the very least, non-compliance with unjust laws that defile our conscience, as well as our heritage.

The common response to this by naysayers would be: “You’ll comply when you have a gun in your face…”

That’s what naysayers throughout history have always said, though. They said it to the Founding Fathers, to Gandhi, and beyond. There will always be another gun to put in the faces of men who fight for the truth of a thing. There will always be men to point those guns at us. The question is, who will be more steadfast? Is the will to dominate really stronger than the will to be free? Can you ever control a people who do not fear you, even at the barrel of a gun? This
is the mindset that brought this country to life, and it is a mindset
we must rediscover, if we are to have any chance of survival.

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Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:51 | 1337022 Glitch

We the people are getting exactly what we deserve. Democracy only works when the people are responsible and we are not. Zerohedge readers excluded perhaps. It's just a reflection.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:53 | 1337027 shazbotz

Hypothetically, you'd just need a few dozen armed patriots storming capitol hill with live TV cameras rolling...that should get the ball rolling.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:58 | 1337049 serotonindumptruck

Hypothetically, they would all be killed or imprisoned, and the media would call them domestic terrorists.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 11:31 | 1339201 Rhodin

More than likely.

A large percent of the members of militias, patriot and liberty groups, as well as libertarian, constitutional and other minor parties are federal operatives. When there are only a few, one will be in leadership, the others in membership and communications.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:01 | 1337048 irregular

FWIW Indiana - The IN Supreme Court majority decision was written by the latest Gov. Daniels appointee. State Senator said it was "unfortunate" the decision came after the Indiana Senate's recess. The next session, in 10 months, would have a bill to address the issue. Days after the Senators statement, local radio said a protest was planned against the decision and the State Attorney General? had asked the Court to review the case. A couple days after that, Gov. Daniels announced he would not run for president. The Court received complaints and threats. It's very possible that Government heard the sentiment - Hey fffuckers! Fix that now!

We will watch and follow up to make sure that some of the pseudo public servants don't go smarmy fuckwads hoping the issue falls off the radar.

No knock, no warrant, no cause - not acceptable.....

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:04 | 1337062 Robert-Paulson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M8vei3L0L8

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 18:53 | 1337902 Miss anthrope

please don't feed the ignorance

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:14 | 1337082 Reptil

This will explain some things perhaps:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/secret-patriot-act/

That's high treason, no matter how you spin it.

At some point the options are reduced to what is common in nature: flee or fight

That's when instinct kicks in. If there's any left.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:13 | 1337111 Glitch

If things got so bad that marshall law was required, what's to stop TPTB from turning up those fluoride systems etc.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:03 | 1337372 Reptil

gremlins

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:09 | 1337386 Reptil

I edited my post, since it was expounding on the main point I wanted to bring, please excuse me for that. I think NOTHING will stop them now. Logically there is no way back. It's a race against the clock for the mind, and willingness to come into action with the purpose of taking over government, of the american people at large. And, as someone already said, it's a battle that is being lost.

FYI, I'll quote a paragraph:

“We’re getting to a gap between what the public thinks the law says and what the American government secretly thinks the law says,” Wyden told Danger Room in an interview in his Senate office. “When you’ve got that kind of a gap, you’re going to have a problem on your hands.”

What exactly does Wyden mean by that? As a member of the intelligence committee, he laments that he can’t precisely explain without disclosing classified information. But one component of the Patriot Act in particular gives him immense pause: the so-called “business-records provision,” which empowers the FBI to get businesses, medical offices, banks and other organizations to turn over any “tangible things” it deems relevant to a security investigation.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:15 | 1337417 Glitch

No problem. That business-records provision is starting to worry me for personal reasons. Not sure if people realize just how far they can go with that. "Logically there is no way back." Well put.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:14 | 1337099 uniman

Violent insurrection plays into their hands.

Greetings from Crystal Peak
Hello my fellow Americans.
Over the last several decades we have been fighting and loosing a war that most people did not even know existed. That is the war against the omnipotent state. Today we stand at the precipice of total defeat. We have no choice but to make our stand now or to forever relinquish our status as freemen.

As many of you have noticed, this country, and the entire world, is descending into systemic collapse. Economy and ecology are failing. For those of you still lucid, you have also noticed that every contemplated action of mitigation on your individual initiative is thwarted. Apparently, your only choice is to remain calm and obedient as the oxygen masks deploy on the Hindenburg of State.

I for one find this choice to be unacceptable. If my destiny is to face my own demise then I insist that my demise come on my terms not the Enemy’s. Today I ask that you join me in my quest for liberation. The Enemy is powerful almost beyond imagination. There is almost nothing that we can write, say, think, or do, that it cannot spy upon and thwart. However, the Enemy has an intricate pattern of weaknesses that we shall exploit. I know some of them, and you all know others. Together we shall put the beast back in its cage.

Terrorists
Over two centuries ago a band of terrorists in North America engaged in armed insurrection in order to destroy the lawful government of its time. History belonging to the victors, the triumphant terrorists crowned themselves heroes.

I use the term “terrorist” because that’s what these men would be called in today’s world. In addition to their guns they had an even more powerful weapon. They had an idea! It was the idea of liberty and empowerment for ordinary people.

It is no accident that the State has long since swallowed “education” vomiting a race of emasculated humanoids who think that because they have a choice to itemize or not on their tax forms or that they have a choice to “vote” for Demoncrats or Republicans, then they must therefore be free.

It is no accident that all sources of power other than the State has been systematically smothered and extinguished. The family is destroyed because the State is a better provider. Your small businesses are smothered by rules and taxes. Education is merely indoctrination. Your money steadily is either overtly confiscated or inflated away. Your ability to travel is becoming ever more burdensome and restricted. Your ability to engage in private communication is almost gone. Coming soon: Your very ability to grow your own food may be lost. In today’s world, “empowerment” means somebody helps you fill out a government form so you can get more freebies with even less work.

Most people would be shocked to imagine a world where individuals had any real power. Power in the hands of individuals can only be corrupted into criminal practice, so they think. And yet the power of hundreds of millions of people when concentrated in the hands of the State somehow becomes pure and benevolent? The power to see that as bullshit is another one of the powers long lost.

We hold these truths to be self-evident
In order to start the process of liberation we must first contemplate the secret weapon of the intellect that these terrorists left behind.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. - American Declaration of Independence.

The coded instructions for liberation are buried within. Please allow me to dissect this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident. As I will discuss at great length eventually, one of our first orders of business will be to define in greater detail what it is that we want. When that time comes we will stand upon our two feet and issue our demands for our freedom and empowerment. We will not have to search for specific grants of power, loopholes, or exemptions in the Enemy’s Law. The things we want are axiomatic and not derived (or thwarted) via legal trickery.
Unalienable rights. Tipping my hand a bit, we will demand (and take back) our freedom and our power. These rights are “unalienable.” Who says? It’s axiomatic and we do not need to “prove” it. Unalienable means that it cannot be gotten rid of. You cannot sell it or give it away. It cannot be seized by court and sold for back taxes. Machinations of law that purport to remove our power or freedom are as absurd as perpetual motion machines.
Consent of the governed. I do not consent to be governed by the Enemy. I never delegated any power to it. My accident of having been born into this system does not alienate my freedom or power.
It is the Right of the people to alter or to abolish it This is an interesting piece of the puzzle. I’ll accept this right as axiomatic but I reserve the right to negotiate a peace treaty with the Enemy instead. If the Enemy will simply leave us alone, we should be content to separate from it. It not being necessary to alter or destroy it. In fact, if I posit a right to “alter or abolish” I think I’m also conceding it’s right to govern me.

A New Tribe
That said, the beginning outline for liberation is to create a new tribe. I propose the following rough principals for use in this endeavor:

We shall remove ourselves from the governing system of the Enemy. We will renounce any allegiance to it as well as any expectation that it will provide any “goods or services” to us. We will not “vote” or participate in its political system.
We will form a new society that works according to our principals of maximum individual freedom, power, and responsibility.
People are free to join or leave the new Tribe.
The new Tribe will take and hold land and resources required for our survival. It will not otherwise have any defined “borders.” These resources will necessarily be inside areas claimed by the Enemy. Granted, this will be easier said than done, but it is a necessity.

Civil Disobedience
We will take what we want via a campaign of civil disobedience. Violent insurrection pits our weakness against the Enemy’s great strength in so many ways. Bad idea. One of the critical weaknesses of the Enemy is that it does not have the heart to simply terminate we-the-people en masse. This will possibly change soon, so we must not waste time fretting about this. But unless they’re willing to eradicate us, we can become extremely disruptive to say the least.

In Conclusion
The war is not lost. The Enemy's great weakness is that it is much less stable than it likes to pretend. There are a myriad of things we can do to apply our strength at the appropriate resonant frequences to wreak major havoc. But time is not on our side. Thanks for reading and have a nice day.
John Connor- Crystal Peak

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:49 | 1337290 pazmaker

so that is from the Terminator?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:11 | 1337105 Crispy

The state equals violence always, in all ways.

Fuck the state and fuck all fucking cops.

Semper Fidelis Jose Guerena.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 02:27 | 1338857 prole

I want to know what percentage of the death squad are marines?

Semper Fidelis

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:13 | 1337114 Yancey Ward

Look, the only people objecting to warrantless rectal exams are people with stuff to hide.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:27 | 1337171 pazmaker

Yes Yancey thats wht they say all the time..... I even hear some family members say this albeit not ones living with me.

It sickens me!

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 18:03 | 1337735 GoinFawr

Yep it's the same old "if you're not doing anything wrong this microspope up your ass shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable" thin end of the wedge. Who the hell junked you for that?

Yancey, you weren't actually serious were you?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:18 | 1337122 Hannibal

Amerikan police state, all for our own protection of course.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:29 | 1337205 YHC-FTSE

This is just like the conversations I used to have on Compuserve in the early days of the internet with Americans about the illusory nature of their freedoms, their love of paramilitary policing, the danger of putting cops on pedestals, and their misconceptions about unarmed police forces around the world. Nobody listened then, and I doubt anyone will listen now, though it's far too late imo.

The funny thing is, Americans consistently point to the desperate, the criminals, the debt ridden, and the illiterate poor who try to get into the 'States, or some shithole in Africa as some kind of affirmation of their superior way of doing things. But the truth is, the rest of the sane world wouldn't live in the US if they were offered a billion dollars in gold. I certainly wouldn't. The dream of an egalitarian, free, decent and honest America based on the rule of law enshrined by the rights of an individual is dead with DNR written across its forehead. It is a giant gangster state on the verge of calamity. But please don't come to Europe, we're no better off here.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:46 | 1337293 Syrin

THANK YOU for this nice summation of our shift to a tyrannical police state. I thought no one else noticed the Indiana "decision" from last week. Unbelievable.

How long until the gov't tells all citizens they must turn over all their gold and silver to the gov't?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:15 | 1337325 Reptil

Ok, civil disobedience. I've been thinking about this, and observed battles of anarchists with police in various countries. Call it a hobby. :-)

I've seen it in action. It works. It's basically the population saying to the government "till here and no further, because we won't do it". Sadly, governments the world over, now see themselves as an extention of the hand that feeds them. So... Let's explore civil disobedience?
- You need a consensus. An majority of active people, willing to disobey the law. You can't do it alone, they'll just set one of your fellow citizens on your case and take you apart bit by bit. Or send you straight to the loonie bin like happened in our little kingdom here.

- Second, the goal you want to achieve may be unrelated to the action that the government puts against the efforts to gain the upper hand and control the reality. But when the action of the government means a loss of life or severe damage, people will not stand up to it, even if they have the majority.

- Third, throughout the last decade the governments have used agent provocateurs to turn peaceful gatherings into an anarchy, then followed by mainstream news that at first really reported the news, but now follows a script. So it's really hard to have any kind of march or rally that is threatening to the powers that be, since controlling the demonstrators is not in the interest of those that are defying law and go on a protest march.

- Therefore the ONLY way civil disobedience will succeed is when the populace, without any extra communication like a call for a march, just simply, en masse, refuses to coöperate.

- In the USA there's divisions and divisions within divisions. People are not used to put differences aside, and rally for a common goal. Each group watches and critisises the other group with intent to gain some "upper hand" themselves. Furthermore, the idea of "everyone for themselves" is remarkably strong, even when the group is threatened. I think there is not really a group in the population in the USA. Or a group feeling. When an attack occurred, like the 9-11 one the government called on the population to "consume to win the fight". This is the mode the american consumer has been following for the last 10 years.

- The USA government has actively persued the development of "non-lethal" weapons that incapacitate any unarmed opponent. Tasers, as common as they might be in the eye of the common Joe Sixpack really pose an interesting case. The nervous system, and brain function of the person that it is used on is put out of order. This feeling of helplessness (apart from the obvious pain) is what will put even the strongest willed down. It's like cattle, the person learns to obey it's masters. That this is now accepted, and allowed to take place on a large scale, is evidence on it's own that something is very very wrong in the relationship police-citizen.

- With their new weapons, their training, and a soldier like group consensus, the USA police force in many parts has become a paramilitairy force. The cop on the beat has been replaced by body armored strike forces, and they're WAITING for civil disobedience, like a soldier waits for his first battle to commence. With a mix of fear, agression, but above all, anticipation.

So, personally, I've been warning friends and colleagues to get out of the USA, or at least devise a workable exit-plan. By the time the masses wake up (no they haven't yet, as far as I can tell by the various online and professional communities I engage with), the "other side" as they have positioned themselves to be mentally and physically, will be waiting. Numbers don't mean a thing, because they have Drones, Electromagnetic pain ray guns, resin guns, and above all, the training to nip ANY disobedience in the bud.

- Given the fact that a large number of high level armed forces people have been caught with kiddie porn on their computer, and with the ambivalent goal of maintaining the peace within a decaying structure that is the american empire, I wouldn't bet on the army to come to the aid of the people either. I may be wrong on that, it's been a while since I spoke with any senior army guys.

- There's only one hope. And that is to stage a MASS EXODUS. Sell your house, your belongings, put everything into gold silver swiss francs, wheatever stable, pick up everything you hold dear and take it out of the system. Move to Chile, Europe (yeah it's turning pearshaped here too, but the democracies have not failed as much as in the US of A, and we could need some freedom loving bold americans), Turkey, Some island in the Mediterranean, or Indian Ocean, anywhere really. IN OUR LIFETIME THIS IS POSSIBLE. THIS IS UNIQUE!

Throughout history people have migrated. Often in larger culturally or racially defined groups. Sometimes like my forefathers because of religion or rather ideology. (Hugenots) The country that they left behind suffered because of their departure, because they constituted an intellectual and economic part of some importance for the mother country. Compare the exodus of the russian scientists in the last decade of the Soviet Union, and in the nineties, to a situation now, where people like you'd find here on this site, departed en masse. A severe blow, but, more importantly, the people that did take the leap, succeeded and thrived.

Forget about the US of A. It's too late. It's been a shining example of freedom, but that's over. It's time to start something new. Where ever that is.... I'm in!

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:08 | 1337579 Reptil

This changed my mind. THIS IS FROM 2003 !!!!

You can skip the first part, nothing really happens, just a bunch of peaceful hippies, farmers, workers, preparing to do a protest march, like they're preparing for a picknick...

But then...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7557174318773212602#

It is very instructional, because it's a testcase, where the "security-forces" hone their skills and techniques. Again, I want to stress, this is 8 years in the past!

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:46 | 1337689 Lord Koos

Man that is some video. Skip up to the 30-minute mark... watching these cops, they sure love to whip some ass don't they?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 08:27 | 1339007 honestann

I agree with you - the USSA is toast... a pure lost cause full of braindamaged moron populations.

However, the problem is this. Where else will the line be drawn? Where else will liberty hold ?

If not in the country with the most armed civilians, then where?

If not in the country that started with the revolutionary war, the declaration of independence, individual sovereignty and individual rights... then where?

If we could organize everyone SERIOUS about liberty and get them to move to a single country, we could hold, we could have a place we could defend, we could keep liberty alive until we can leave this planet for places no government can follow.

But where? Nobody seems to be willing to make this happen, and nobody seems willing to bite the bullet and follow. I've tried. Others have tried. It hasn't happened. Someday soon the liberty-lovers of earth damn well better get organized and make their place on this planet. Otherwise earth shall become a permanent slave planet. Guaranteed.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:56 | 1337329 Chuck Yeager

I believe you are thinking of the Constitution. The passage is from the Delcaration of Independance. Basically, the document is an explanation of why we fought the Revolutionary War. People were kind enough back then to explain their outrage BEFORE they got snarky. I agree with you that what might be coming will look more like the process in the Middle East.

A Tipping Point will occur. It will be some minor event. In the Middle East it was a police officer slapping a fruit cart owner for being in the wrong location. The man held a PhD, but could not find work. The slap was the last straw. But the last staw will unleash a tide of public unrest that has been growing silently. It could be anything. My best guess is a shooting of someone, somewhere, that has lost the American Dream through no fault of their own. I think this may be the innocent shooting of someone who is being evicted from their home. But that is just a guess.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 00:59 | 1337380 Widowmaker

Enforcement is absolutely out of control, completely fucking out of control.

It's okay to defend your rights in the US.

Congress, and state legislatures had better take a hard look at this.

When enforcement doesn't follow the rules, and vigilante/militia justice is doing this nonsense, something is broken.

No moderation? The people behind those triggers are a disgrace to SWAT/UA everywhere. Control is an absolute must - most of that footage is of amateur dipshits who need training not guns.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:12 | 1337593 Yen Cross

Nah, why do you call these people elite? They are just wanabe entitled idiots!

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:34 | 1337655 Reptil

Exactly...

And that's the reason I'm heading for the exit. (Waiting for a good opportunity to assess a new domicile)

Let them have their corrupt financial system, let them have their energy plants without a real solution for the whole cycle of raw material to product to waste, let them have their repressive governing structure, and their masses of entitled people without any chance of productive future. Their world will collapse, implode, with a loud sucking noise. PRECISELY because the elite are the WORST of that society. A predator cannot build. It can only prey on those that they themselves consider weak, but are really much more productive and insightful than they ever will be. The germans started their cleansing experiment with their enemies, the free minded individuals, their idiological counterpoint. This will repeat itself.
I want to observe that from afar. But it would be nice to build a society on the resolve of people that are smart enough to see the fire is out of control, to build on their experiences. Without the need to go through the whole cycle of collapse, chaos, and emerging totalitarian state.

Also, another point, about PMs and preservation of wealth. If a society as a whole goes through such a transition as is to be expected in the case of the USA, the only thing that will guarantee wealth is a position inside the dominant group. Practically, there will be NO chance to move your PMs out, or your person, and these PMs will be worth less in this environment than a can of beans. HOWEVER, since it's the money of the world, somewhere else, outside the confines of the collapsing empire, or perhaps on it's fringes, PMs will be the only thing that resembles money.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:32 | 1337629 Laddie