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Guest Post: A Former Marine's Outlook On Inflation, Life Expectancy, And Future Returns
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A Former Marine's Outlook On Inflation, Life Expectancy, And Future Returns
The details of the federal employees' pension system are not something that interests me, nor do I understand exactly how the US Treasury is borrowing money from it, and with little or no mention of it in the press. Thanks to Zero Hedge, at least I do understand why the US government is forced to borrow money from its own employees, as both the monetary and political reasons have been covered on this site extensively.
Recently, I have been thinking about a former marine I know that recently "retired" from the federal government after a couple of decades as an US postal inspector. During his entire career in government service, he carried a weapon, and spent most of his time conducting narcotics investigations. He has photos of himself beside giant mountains of cash and drugs that he had seized on raids.
Several months ago, before he retired, he shared a little bit about his financial situation; specifically that he has several hundred thousand dollars in a federal retirement account invested in U.S. treasuries. He said it was essentially all that he and his wife had saved, and that he knew it was not going to be enough for him to truly retire, especially because they still have kids to put through college. However, he said that if he went to Afghanistan for one year as a security contractor, then he could make enough money so that he would not have to work doing landscaping for the rest of his life, which is what he saw as his second option.
Being a bit of an instigator, I asked this ex-marine/postal worker what his assumptions were regarding inflation, his life expectancy, and future returns. He stared at me silently for an uncomfortably long time. Please understand me when I say that this is not the type of man anyone would ever really want to piss off. Think more R. Lee "Gunny" Ermey and less Cliff Claven. I then realized that I should be more careful what I say, or risk being the messenger that is shot delivering bad news.
His response, when it finally came, surprised me. He said, "I don't trust the government." He then went on to explain that although he and his buddies were just a bunch of government hacks that had put in their time, they did risk their lives on a regular basis. For that, the primary reward they were all promised, and did expect, was a federal pension. We talked a little about the idea of his pension being denominated in US dollars, and the history of the US dollar's purchasing power, but it was an uncomfortable conversation for both of us, so we moved on to other topics.
A couple of months later I learned from the man's family that he had in fact deployed to Afghanistan. I do not know what he is doing there, but I expect it is dangerous. What I wonder is this. Does this man know that the government is paying him (albeit indirectly through Xe or the like) combat pay by borrowing from his own retirement...the very same retirement fund with a NPV sufficiently small to cause this man to leave his own kids to fight other men's' kids half way around the world? Does he realize that because it enables the Federal Reserve's QE and ZIRP policies, the government is responsible for the inflation and low treasury yields that will likely make it so that even with a year's worth of combat pay this man will very likely still end up mowing bankers' lawns for the rest of his life? If he does not know this, now, I most certainly do not want to be the one to tell him.
He said, "I don't trust the government."
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frankly i don't trust the us military one bit. matter of fact, they may have us in front of their organization name, but they damn sure do not represent me or the people of this country. if they don't represent us, then who do they fight for? hmmm?
May the military be filled with people like you.
MisterAmbassador
Dude there are around 70k Green Card troops. Do you think they will have a problem shooting US citizens?
http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/green-card-soldiers-how-the-us-army-recruit...
http://www.originaldissent.com/node/1489
http://multiamerican.scpr.org/tag/green-card-soldiers/
Scary thought.
Focusing on the wrong question. It's not will so and so do it? It's how do they decide who is and deploy the right people to do it.
They are going to use the TSA agents to carry out operations against the american people. TSA acts as pre-screening to see who is willing to do anything they are told to do. Think about it...who would want a job groping/harassing people, radiating people, and exposing themselves to radiation daily?
Additionally, foreign troops have been training with local police in america for a while now.
njdoo7
Dude, people who post on the nets are on the watch list at various levels.
Half the posters here, not the paid government sentiment churners, are on some Red capture immediately with as much force and collateral damage as possible group.
Big Brother is like Santa, he knows if you are naughty or nice. But instead of coal you get some lead.
Waterboarding isn't so bad, just remember to wear a bathing suit under your clothes at all times.
+ 30 seconds of holding your breath
Absolutely true story...
In son's third year in Afghanistan, civilian doing super secret squirrelly stuff in communications for SF and DOD, he McGyvered some communication with laptop and cellphone and we were chatting via myspace or something while he was with SF ops at idle time.
We bull-shitted around and I happened to mention that if it were my druthers I'd be dropping a nuke every twenty miles or starting in Syria and marching them eastwards.
Another chatbox opened up, "NSAGuy" who told me that I should really watch what I say and that I should NOT make such suggestions.
Told him to fuck off, pretty sure I'm on their channel five years later. Now, of course, I can talk/view my son on skype. Wonder how heavily that is monitored?
I would assume it's fairly common.
They have plenty of looted money to piss away and plenty of "adults" with the mental and psychological capacity of children who love the feeling of importance and narcisism they get when spying on people and adding their name to a list.
microsoft just bought skype, you do the math.
I was aware of the fact that I am probably on some stupid list. If some fucked in the head government agent puts my name on their precious list for peacefully exercising my freedom, it's unfortunate but I don't live my life in fear. If I am going to be targetted and victimized, so be it. I will continue to peacefully live my life as I choose.
nj,
TSA agents are NOT up to the task. They are either on Ego trips,or mostly reg Joe's or slobs,just wanting a job.
Secondly, as I have stated here several times, IF Blue helmets are brought in against American citizens,it's game On.
I hope it doesn't come to that. Violence is their game, not ours. The people will not win if the people play their game.
I very much hope youre right, and that it is not more like this
http://red-pill.org/sentinels-remote-control-death-from-the-sky/
"I trust that our military is still on the side of We the People.---" what a ridiculous assumption. The military is on the side of the military. you better clear up your logical thinking ability. As Bob Dylan said, " The police don't need any help from you, and they expect he same from you"; If you;re intelligent and productive and have savings, get the fuck out. Canada and New Zealand are both good possiblilities.
+ red pill.
seriously, you can tell yourself a story that makes you feel "safe" for now, but eventually you'll have to tell yourself the truth.
it's like trying to explain the Fed, economy, etc. to some people, at first resistance, but then the evidence piles up. . . deep.
whoops double tapped, force of habit
"I trust that our military is still on the side of We the People. I trust that our military is beholden and loyal to the Constitution of the United States of America above someone with the title commander-in-chief who may issue orders contradicting that document. I trust that our military holds themselves to a higher standard than "just following orders"."
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They do. Soldiers pledge to support and defend the Constitution. They they must obey lawful orders given by the officers appointed over them. However, soldiers are duty bound to disobey unlawful orders and they will be held accountable if they carry out an unlawful order.
Most people serving in the military are regular folk. They are of and identify with the Middle Class and its values, not the Gangster Banskter filth that infests Wall Street. Of that you can be sure. The reference below goes into more detail. Most soldiers, if forced, will choose to do the right and lawful thing. Of course, with a force of several million, you can always point to the handful of individuals who did not but they are the exception, not the rule.
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OATH OF OFFICE AND UNLAWFUL ORDERS
The military oath taken at the time of induction or commissioning reads:
"I,____________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God"
The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) 809.ART.90 (20), makes it clear that military personnel need to obey the "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ.
more: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21909
If true, then some day it will be their responsibility to uphold their oath and free us from the fascist who have taken over America.
Personally I don't think they have it in them. They like being on the side of the powerful who give them scraps from the table.
I know that when I was in the service in the mid to late seventies we were given training in what orders we had to follow and which ones we could not follow because they were immoral or illegal. This training was given because mostly anyway, the men that we tried for the slaughters at My Lai under Lt. Calley, over and over it was told on the stand that they were just following orders, and that never were they told that some orders you do not follow no matter the source.
I don't know if they still give such training, my guess would be that one of the Bush's quickly and quietly got rid of it. The next time I bump into a Guardsman I will ask them what orders they would refuse to follow.
But one thing would be quite clear to anyone in uniform, you do not point your gun at people unless you are willing to kill them, and you do not kill unarmed civilians anywhere unless they are as a mob threatening to kill you and you have no other way to survive.
Guys, retired US Army here. Trust me, they will couch any miltary operation as a law enforcement support activity and orders will be followed. There might be some who have doubts, but they will be quickly removed and replaced. Most officers will look at it as obeying the orders of the commander in chief. Most senior NCOs will be pissed, but will be more concerned with keeping their boys alive. Most soldiers will just bitch about it but go do it. If the US Army is ordered into your town, leave. You have no idea how much damage DPICM MLRS artillery can do.
all you need is the "domestic terrorist" label, criteria which would include most here - following orders will be the example, and the excuse.
If we get to a point where the leadership in the Army, from general officer down through corporal, condone shelling unarmed American civilians it will a black day indeed. It will be decision time. Do you get the hell out of America or do you do what is necessary to take back your country back?
Violence by criminal gangs is a more likely threat than the above scenario.
Your statement is not a junk statement. Anybody with a military mind would realize your scenario is one that must be thought of. You are just underestimating the troops.
You see at first the thought of getting the populous to support the volunteer force in desert storm I was victory for the government, they could continue with their nonsencial policies and the troops would do as ordered but antithema to Vietnam the citizens would embrace the troops.
Well this actually works 2 ways. The troops know from where their support really comes from, and by continuing to put troops in harms way under the false pretenses of false intelligence they are really only endangering themselves.
Troops are already mentally snapping upon return and it will be much worse than Vietnam vets, but if you were a citizen that supported them and not a ballot box whore, then you should rest easy where their barrels will first be pointed.
"I trust that our military is still on the side of We the People."
HAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAH HAHAHAH
Are you sure you trust?
Don't you hope?
I hope, but I don't "trust".
I agree that there should be a better system. But IMO given that there are crazy people who will give up their own precious life using the freedom in our society to kill people in our country, as in the 9-11 case, then some freedom loss may be necessary.
Does anyone disagree with the assertion that is the duty of government to provide for protection of the populace against foreign agents (to the extent possible, of course). And, in truth, not all of the crazies have been foreign, anyone that will give up their own future trying to kill others; innocents that are not a threat to them, is crazy (including our very own Timothy McVeigh).
Eric Hoffer's little book, "The True Believer" is an interesting read, (and maybe study)for anyone that hasn't seen it. He wrote others but, other than "The Ordeal of Change", I felt the others were not as relevant.
Hoffer's early life was interesting as well. He was one of a kind.
hbj,
For the sake of 2 or 3 American nut jobs, YOU give up your rights.........I prefer to keep mine.
The individual who will give up liberty for saftey, deserves neither liberty, nor safety.
TSA pat downs. I had someones hands down my pants, a big afro american woman. that was not fun. But what ever floats your boat.
Below is a video for those people who like trading on the market.
=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPlY12-hQLw
This video cracked me up LOL. FUNNY CHIT... LOL.
Hence why ex / retired military / police are often placed high on the gub's watch list.
Tickhound,
Retired military here...care to back up your position that we are watched more than others? Not saying you are wrong, just would like some substance as to why you think that.
Thanks the SPLC for this one - http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2009/summer/editorial
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Two months later, a Department of Homeland Security report, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," was leaked to the press. Dated April 7, the report mirrored many of the conclusions of the SPLC and added that "rightwing extremists [could] attempt to recruit and radicalize returning [military] veterans." (The Report has written extensively about the problem of extremists in the military.)"
Beat me to it. Backup copy for the record
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
Next year's release will contain the addition of ZH posters. Which is really just a house-keeping move, as everyone here is already labeled as a terrorist for either; supporting the Constitution ("Tenther's" specifially), being critical of the Fed, supporting Ron Paul, buying silver/gold, or any one of dozens of activities that free-thinking people engage in.
My death by their hands would be a gift to me. I won't initiate force, nor do I encourage it.
They really don't like us practicing the first two on the Bill of Rights, for some reason.
Who is "They" exactly?
"Who is they, exactly?"
Why, the voices that whisper in my brain, the ones that say kill, bed wetter, kill. LOL
ROTFLMFAO
One of these days, I'm going to be eating or drinking when I read something like that, and it's going to kill me.
Our metastasizing internal intelligence and security apparatus.
Why would they waste the manpower on a bunch of posers spewing bullshit on the Internet?
The security state requires a constant stream of threats, both real and imagined, in order to perpetuate its own existence.
And yet the Soviet Union still failed.
Not everything is written in stone.
Ronald Reagan forced them to spend themselves into oblivion. Sound familiar?
Ya got that right, Xeno. It's two-pronged: power-lust: da goobermint highups + the asshole fuckin' bureaucrats drawing their 100K & having the time of their lives playing James Bond AND the $$$$$$ factor: contractors making bank every second & the CONgresses taking the bribes.
To Rodent's point, however...YES...whatya think I pray for every day? That this whole stinkin' pile of shit falls on their heads. Free the citizens!
French general & politician (1769 - 1821)
no, we don't need that either. "we get to make things up, too." that's why i've never understood "the laws" in the first place. "we can just deny it." whatyagonna do? arrest us?
What makes you think we are all posers? How many trip's to the rocky box did you make?
Didn't say everyone, Nid.
Been to the sand box?
The for-profit prison industrial complex needs bodies in cots. I dunno. Ask this poser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foG-J2Tdg9o
Are you currently in a federal penitentiary on charges of sedition?
If not, stfu, you poser.
Sedition is the subversion of, or incitement of discontent against, constitutional authority. I swore to uphold our constitution, not tear it down, and already served my time at Wright-Patterson a long while ago. Whether I decide to pose, post, engage, or decline is mine own natural prerogative, and no taunt will have me doing otherwise, you rodent.
+1
(Dick Cheney)
Rodent Freikorps asked: 'Who is "They" exactly?'
"They" would be people who think that behavior can be legislated; too many, unfortunately.
Some kid analyst, guessing that could happen, doesn't make it a credible threat. They could have said the same thing about returning Vietnam veterans. In fact, Hollywood did. Find that analyst and gun him down (just kidding).
Anyone who gives Credence to anything the Left Wing Progressive SPLC say's, is as off the wall as they are.
They make millions as a 501 from guess who?.
Have disinformation will travel...........scum of the earth.
Tickhound,
Retired military here...care to back up your position that we are watched more than others? Not saying you are wrong, just would like some substance as to why you think that.
see next
some would say ex. military has more "kill" training along with mentality to carry out / lead others to a type of freedom fight.
Hence the "watched more than others". Last thing Gov. wants! My view; if the Gov. is after my ass, they will probalbly win, if winning is my death.
Other than that, I reload for trading purposes mostly!!
Signed Ex. Mil.
Don't forget the oath, "To uphold and defend the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic."
When one swears their life to defend against domestic enemies, well, that puts a bit of shiver in the spines of the enemies (assuming they even have one).
Of course, Oathkeepers are already considered a terrorist cell, so they will likely be rounded up first.
Who gives it matters not to me,that the orders be legal, and followed are the important part.
Our military knows right from wrong......and all who take the oath do also.
And here's the officer's commissioning oath, you rodent:
Section 3331, Title 5, United States Code
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Nothing about slavishly obeying the potentially unlawful or extralegal orders of purported superiors.
As they should be
Where I live, we have the luxury of a rifle /pistol/machine gun range out to a half mile.(of course rifles only).
As members, when you become proficient enough to hit targrets at 1k yds, you are listed, and your name is put on a states LE list.
Once a month this group of LE/Feds used to meet, and have a pow wow.(99% of the members(that shoot LR) have no clue they were put on that list,or one exists.)
Funny part is,not one felon, or jail bird is/has ever been in the group.(and that's what they check)
May have changed, as I am too old for this crap any more.
Why someone could pass/take a CCW class( easy as pie)/get printed,on record, approved by the FBI,the state & local LE, would be classified as a threat( terrorist potential) is beyond reasonable sanity.
At that point, I think we should look for the REAL terrorists maybe somehwere else?.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14explorers.html
IMPERIAL, Calif. — Ten minutes into arrant mayhem in this town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people, one slumped in his desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.
Todd Krainin for The New York TimesIn a training exercise run by Border Patrol agents.
Are you familiar with the Homeland security documents leaked a couple years ago..."be on the look out for Veterans, Ron Paul Supporters, those who are distrustful of government...they are the leading threats to the US government according to DHS.
A paranoid government has much to hide. When a government thinks that it knows what's best for the citizens for whom they serve even against those citizens' wishes, they no longer serve the people but themselves. Apparently, there is much self-serving fascism here as corporations have more say than the vast majoriy of citizens.
Yeah, sure do.
Also remember a very embarrassed DHS Chief that shit her pants it was on the streets.
And issued a retraction.(doesn't mean the mind/policy was changed though).
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
In retrospect, I guess I should not be this surprised...
If the government wanted retired military to live long lives would they expose them to so much depleted uranium?
Ever read about Kissinger "military men are dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns"...that is the guy that made the orders for our military to carry out the last 40 years? can't make this shit up...what kind of blinders do military men wear to follow men like this? I know that the salt of the earth in our military are good at heart, hard working, willing to sacrifice their lives, want to help, wholesome americana. Same guys I played football with back in my youth in Alabama...but god damn! i wish for their own good they weren't so fucking naive.
Best training in the world, babe. Not naive.
Just risk on for a time.
And no student debt.
Hhmm, just a second there, let's see, was my free (world class) education worth it? Where are we at now I just went through tax season, just under 30 million in revenue YoY and just over 30 employees. Yeah, I'm good. Do your own homework, but even then, no risk, no reward, hope this guy is not investing other people's money.
Same reason the feds were going around collecting lists of aviators, scuba-divers, chemists, et cetera.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2002-06-06/news/0206060242_1_diving-i...
Napoleon Dynamite: No, but who would? I don't even have any good skills.
Pedro: What do you mean?
Napoleon Dynamite: You know, like nunchuku skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills...
The "lone wolf" thing was in the Patriot Act they were so desperate to pass today. Gives the gov the power to watch all you vets whenever they see fit.
Tickhound,
Retired military here...care to back up your position that we are watched more than others? Not saying you are wrong, just would like some substance as to why you think that.
all depends what you did and what kind of security clearance you had. another words, they watch you, if you saw enough to make you possibly dangerous, if the mind control wears off etc..........now by watching, it is not meant, every second of every day, but they do keep tabs on some.......
"yes i do care to back up my positions. with monetary reinforcements of course! we love the government sir! Love it! Now if you give me a moment...let me explain why YOU should LOVE IT TO! We're up 100 percent over two years--and we were "in it to win it" as they say. Methinks you're an "in it to win it guy" too! Let us take a look at what you have--we'll give a free "takedown" of your current positions and if you wish some ideas of where we go from here. Sound good? By all means if you wish advisements....
For some reason, your comment reminds me of this scene...
"...Please, I like America! Fancy schmancy! What a cinch! Go fly a kite! Cat got your tongue! Hill of beans! Betty Boop, what a dish. Betty Grable, nice gams....
I say can you see! I say can you see! I... I say... Fuck Hitler. Fuck Hitler!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv-5flYewm8
Spielberg and Hanks are two POS who love the islamic. They got richer exploiting old WW2 guys. F**k them.
You'll have to do a few Powerpoint presentations before we can take all that in.
"Just the movie Wall Street, please." I'm actually a "Once Upon a Time in the West" man myself.
Red Dead Redemption ftw :)
i don't recall her being in that game....
I'll buy the tequila shots if we ever meet.
I prefer She Wore A Yellow Ribbon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlwKbcFL7ps
great scene, great movie. brings back memories..."sans horse" of course.
Better bring the goods ASAP, TH, he's got you triple posted and possibly in his crosshairs.
P.S. For what it's worth Sub, my family and I appreciate your service.
>my family and I appreciate your service.
I don't. I want a refund. Blowing up Iraqis and Afghanis doesn't make me feel one iota safer.
I'd rather the money go to protecting actual Americans. I've been victimized by a ton of crime in the last couple of years and I've seen it happen to friends, neighbors, and acquaintances: assault, thefts, hit & runs, vandalism, and fraud. And I don't live in the ghetto.
Why do you live in this country?
Cuz it's safe.
Don't take the hypocrisy too seriously, or you'll go nuts around here.
Don't project your honor on others.
You'll be disappointed.
I get a rise out of pointing it out - gets me lots of junks some days.
But thanks. :D
Junks are a badge of honor....most times around this sewer of commies, Libs and other miscreants.
Carry on, sir.
He is right in the fact crime is out of control here. How much sense does it make that we try to secure Iraq's border and not our own? This country is looking more and more like Mexico everyday.
That being said, most in the military are well-intentioned to fight for a country they believe in. Ignorance of the military industrial complex is another issue but doesn't mean you shouldn't appreciate what their intention is.
Ain't it weird Libs expect endless credit for good intentions?
And they never, ever extend it to anyone else?
yeah, yeah. "One day they'll secure the internet, too!" In the meantime, "yeee, haw!"
You cannot emigrate to just anywhere. Governments don't allow it.
If you weren't such a pussy you wouldn't be getting beat up all the time. Need a primer? Watcha couple of Bronson's movies, or read some George Hayduke books.
I forgot to mention there are a ton of drunk drivers at night in my town. It seems like society is unraveling at an accelerating pace. It must be the economy and all.
Yeah,Charles Bronson movies. Don't be a whimp. toughen up.
Sounds like you better move to another country, pronto!
All due respect, doc, regarding your previous comment...
Most, just don't know and some have little alternative. My father was drafted. Most are young kids, "escaping", searching for discipline or taking pride in their country... Pride that most of us had, or still have, to a natural, albeit dwindling, degree...
Most, honestly believe they are defending our Constitution... Maybe one day this won't be viewed as a near criminal act.
The military looks outward.
If you don't like the government of the US, change it.
That is not the job description of the military.
The civilians you elect give them the orders.
Choose better.
No. The civilians you speak of DO NOT give the orders. The banking families do. The military-industrial complex does. AIPAC does. Shady people you know nothing about do.
Then rise up. Draw their fire. Make it plain to all the world that the US has, indeed, become a police state.
Are you willing to die for your beliefs?
Sincerely curious, RF...
on which side would you find yourself?
The greatest evil in the world is communism.
the greatest evil in the world is organized religion...and gov't...and people with parental issues they can't work through....think about 'W'.
Communism is a religion. How else could fools continue to spew such discredited bullshit?
I think you might have forgotten the top of the pyramid doing the "organizing." as the most evil.
Any widely held belief system can be classified as an organized religion, think environmentalism, atheism, nihilism, etc. The last 2 world wars weren't caused by the "classic" organized religions, and I suspect the next one won't be either.
Think "green shirts" instead of brown shirts and saving mother earth from, wait for it... evil humans. Or maybe the organizers will say those who believe in one of the "classic" religions will need to be eliminated because they're "evil."
See a pattern here?
Are you? What are they, those beliefs that you will die for?
Freedom.
But it isn't a black and white thing in a Republic. Much as I may hate it, the majority does have a right to turn itself into the prole slaves of TPTB.
I will not take up arms against the majority.
It could still be saved at the ballot box, but even the so called "aware" on this very site take pride in not voting.
Enjoy your freedom to not vote, you future proles. I do have other options.
Why would I die for you? Seriously, who the fuck are you that I should give my life to defend? You wasted the effort of an entire generation of patriots.
An entire generation bought you the time to fix things. We do not owe you anything else.
Choose better?!? What exactly do you think is "chosen" by anyone in this country anymore? The guy above was right. Maybe your heart's in the right place, but that was stunningly naive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs
One could say the same to every single military person today. Giving your actions over to another man, does not absolve you of the malignancy of those whose mission you support. You CHOSE to support an institution run by amoral politicians. Which, with even a precursory examination, could be known a priori. Choose better. I find it almost impossible to voluntarily support any single institution in existence today because they all appear to be run by deranged cowards. How many times must an institution violate the trust of the people and even its members before it's discredited and people withdraw their support??
hammer hits nail.
Man Up, and take care of your crime problem yourself.
LE's job is not to protect you, or your family, or your property.
That's YOUR duty.
SCOTUS ruling bro.
100% correct. "don't make me feel one iota safer"-- not even relevant. It's the facts that count; it fact, you are not safer. The governing of the American Continent has been utterly given over to the military; to expend and waste the workers dollars as they see fit. 12 milliion illegal immigrants; who are un-touchable. Federal programs that pay sub-normal spear chuckers to reproduce. Twelve aircraft carriers; for what? I ask you seriously, for what? First you have to go out and make and enemy and then you can try out your hideously overpriced toys. this is the proven path of failure for empires for thousands of years. The only enemy you have is the United States Government; the only one; there is no other. the quality of life and the security and pleasure of living in this north American Continent are basicall unknown and unimaginable to you. As Harry Brown said, "The progress that humanity could have made if it weren't for government is amazing". The United States Military is not only the enemy of women and children living in Pakistan and afghanistan, and Iraq, but your enemy. Once again, I repeat, it is your only enemy.
Hehe... Wow, been beat to all the "evidence."
I too Sub, appreciate your service... I'm a military brat, viewed my dad as "the man."
Aside from the well-documented obvious... "trained in firearms and tactics..."
...links abound from the MIAC report to http://www.wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf ...
"...the return of military veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan facing possible challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups and lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks..."
It goes on and on....
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin505.htm
"The DHS report specifically warns law enforcement to be on guard against "disgruntled military veterans," especially veterans returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan..."
"Veterans groups nationwide are rightfully "up in arms" over the DHS report. Feeling the wrath of public opinion, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano yesterday "apologized" for "offending" veterans."
Napolitano == Obama.
They knew they would be acting unconstitutionally, so the report.
They read the oath too, but they don't understand it.
Idiot liberals never change. They just kill more proles.
You use the word: LIBERAL like a club. Unfortunately that club is made of air.
Ever watched a tornado? It is only air.
It is destructive to anything in its path.
that's the bullshit ivory progressive tower mindset all right. Back in the 80's it was all Vietnam Vets were walking time bombs of village torching, pot smoking smack pumping rapists.
They fear, and rightly so, just not for the reasons they think. Athens Tennessee comes to mind.
@LFMayor
Are you referring to the progressive ivory tower that currently rules America and whom we all serve and our military protects?
that's the pickle, isn't it? Only one way to get vermin out of the house. Gas it.
good perspective and context.
Of course he doesn't trust the government.. He's worked for them for decades.. nuff said
As bad as it is for someone to invest all their money in their employer, its even worse to do when its the USG! I'm sure that the power was intoxicating while they were bossing people around and violating all their rights, but they will get a lesson in FINANCIAL POWER. Or lack thereof.
+1
F*** ex and current govt workers.
*tick tock tick tock......*
"Always faithful" means so many different things to so many different people... Sad some never figure out its true meaning.
Precisely the sort of guy who, if he happened to read zero hedge and such for a while, might become quite dangerous to certain elements in our society.
Do you think he has the capacity for discernment of the real perps or do you think his righteous anger can be deflected onto "liberals, the lazy poor etc?"
I am personally non-violent although I assume some folks aren't.
I think he is a practical family man that understands what he can affect, and what can affect him.
Violence is a tool. Unfortunately, sometimes it's the only tool that will get the job done.
Wow! Nice post. It's really unfair to him. To all of them...
Sponging a living off the goverment his entire life was a bad choice to begin with.
Well, of course it was. Postal jobs are essentially welfare to begin with. The government should not even be in the delivery business. Shut it down, sell off the real-estate and other assets, liquidate the pensions, and return the money to the taxpayers. (Yeah, yeah, I know. The USPS is supposedly self-sufficient and doesn't require taxpayer subsidies. Tell me another bullshit fairy tale).
Further, this guy's job consisted of enforcing morally-rotten drugs prohibition laws against acts that should not be illegal at all. Most of the "crimes" he investigated were victimless acts, and not really crimes at all. He was doing an unecessary job for a business that shouldn't exist. And now he's worried that he might not get the free ride he planned on? No sympathy here.
+1 cxl9 no symapthy here either.
another +1 from me.
this guy volunteered to kill people in afghanistan.
tell me again why the US military is still killing people in afghanistan?
it's a sorry ass that volunteers to kill other people's kids, supposedly so he can put his own through college, and retire with the $$'s he thinks he deserves.
Hi cxi9,
Read the constitution, the postal service is mandated. One of its main jobs is to keep first class mail private, something you actually expect a private corporation to do? Send me some of that privitazation koolaid you have been drinking, must be good stuff.
By the way the PO is self sufficient and has over 75 billion in their pension fund which of course the Feds have looted.
Not mandated. Permitted. "Congress shall have Power To ... establish Post Offices" (Article I Section VIII).
And as soon as the Federal government respects any other provision of the Constitution, I'll support their establishment of Post Offices. Now go away.
+1
ZH has a lot of libbots and Huff Po readers who voted for Allah in 2008. They still support him too.
You could be referring to our president; that is his employment history.
You could be referring to our president; that is his employment history.
I don't trust the government either.
I don't trust the state or federal government.
I don't trust any bank or corporation.
The past three years have proven to me, proven, that ethics and morality and the rule of law in our culture and society are dead and that "every man for himself" has taken over.
My only real option is to get my assets out of the "system" and manage them on my own; and whatever form of civil disobedience I can practice - especially non-participation in the shemes and memes of the kleptoligarchy.
When you lose trust, you don't have a relationship.
Washington and Wall Street have lost their relationship with the nation - they just don't realize it yet.
I hope your friend comes back alive and can retire peacefully; but where will he put his money that he can trust it won't be leveraged, speculated, gambled, taxed, devalued, and/or confiscated away?
Sooner or later the youth will see their Parents and families suffer and this will get violent.
It is a shame that the Judiciary and Law Enforcement and even the military have not had the guts to step in to the cesspool and save what is left.
lol yeah, try stepping into that cesspool see how far you get.
Divide and conquer. The 3 groups you mention all took an oath to "protect and defend" the constitution. The paradox comes when you must decide if you must continue your oath while aware the constitution is being subverted/ignored/destroyed. Should you protect the corpse or break your oath and to save your beliefs. Each must decide on his own.
Throughout history, security services do as they're told. They may not like the orders but are aware of who butter their bread. I hope the US is different but no holding my breath. I've seen too many recent ex-mil types in police roles that have been watching too much 'Cops'.
I recal vids of USSR executioners saying they got an extra ration of vodka after the deed was done. It's a rough job but somebody got to do it.
I concur.
+1