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Israel Knesset Member Declares "We Are Preparing For War"
In an interview by Likud Knesset Member Danny Danon, speaking with WND senior reporter Aaron Klein, who hosts an investigative program on New York's WABC 770 AM Radio, the Israeli said that "Israel is preparing for a time of war...We are ready for all scenarios, and we are able to defend our civilian population. I cannot tell you how long we can wait more. But we prefer to wait and see if the international bodies are acting, or [whether] it will be only the burden of Israel, like it was in the early '80s, when the great leader, Menachem Begin, [made] the great decision to bomb the nuclear reactor in Iraq." He concluded: "We don't want this to be a war of Jews against Muslims. It should be a war of Western civilization [against] Iran." Good luck explaining that to 1.5 billion Muslims around the world.
From 77WABC Radio, specifically WND's Jerusalem Bureau:
While Israel is hoping for a peaceful resolution to Iran's nuclear ambitions, the Jewish state is also preparing for "a time of war," declared a Knesset member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's ruling Likud party.
"We are prepared for all risks," said Likud Knesset Member Danny Danon. "And I think our enemies should know that even though we are speaking of peace, we are getting ready for a time of war, as well."
Danon, the deputy speaker of Israel's parliament, was speaking in a radio interview with WND senior reporter Aaron Klein, who hosts an investigative program on New York's WABC 770 AM Radio.
Danon hinted that Israel may take action if the world does not stop the Iranian nuclear threat, recalling Israel's lone strike on Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981.
Stated Danon: "We are ready for all scenarios, and we are able to defend our civilian population. I cannot tell you how long we can wait more. But we prefer to wait and see if the international bodies are acting, or [whether] it will be only the burden of Israel, like it was in the early '80s, when the great leader, Menachem Begin, [made] the great decision to bomb the nuclear reactor in Iraq."
Despite his assertion that Jerusalem is preparing to act alone, Danon stressed that Iran is an international concern. He called on the Western world to "take action" against Iran's suspected illicit nuclear program.
"I think we have to take action," he said. "It's about time to take action. It should be the international world and not only Israel. And I expect the administration in the White House to wake up as soon as possible."
Danon said he is concerned the international community has not been forceful enough in its policies toward Iran.
"What we see today is that the Russians, the Americans, the Europeans all say they are worried about Iran becoming nuclear, but in fact Iran is working full ahead, and it's only a matter of months or a year before they will be reaching the point of no return," he said.
Danon stated that any future military confrontation against Iran "should be an international effort."
"We don't want this to be a war of Jews against Muslims. It should be a war of Western civilization [against] Iran," he said.
"The threat of Iran becoming nuclear is a threat for the people who live in the U.S., Europe and Israel." he said. "No one can guarantee that Iran will use its power only against Israel."
And with that, we look forward to another stock meltup tomorrow.
The full interview can be heard after the jump.
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War, bitchez
Obama will wait until the first nuclear bomb explodes in New York.
After that, he'll decided that every America should excuse them self to Iran and offer 60square miles at the centre of Washington for Iranians to build a peaceful army base to show they mean well.
And as a second peace offering he will allow all Iranian men in America the option of first choice of American woman.
Shame on the West of playing the victim! BOW TO THE ISLAM! BOMD ALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES! RAPE ALL CHRISTIAN WOMAN!
= sarcasm off =
I'm glad this little trivial matter didn't interrupt Obama's tenth vacation this year...LOL.
he and w. have more in common as time goes by.
Disagree heartily.
Obama is making Bush look good.
Bush shoulda done it. DEFINITION of bullshit chicken-hawk. Where was Cheney? Israel won't succeed. Escalation.
Rapture bitchez
why on earth should anyone "do it". isn't it time we moved on from the neoconservative pipedream of spending billions and losing soldiers and killing civilians just to eliminate israels tin pot enemies?
+1
+1
Apocalypse bitchez.
Har Meggido Bitchez
Rapture...
He holdeth my head under deep water,
He stealeth my soul.
Good luck explaining it to all the hair-shirted "pacifists" who believe in peace in our time, peace with honor. Mr. Achmadinejad's sense of reason can be appealed to, and surely there are moderates in his regime. I am sure they just want electrical power generation. Pay no heed to their constant threats or their ballistic missile program. Or their low-level proxy war against Israel via Hezbollah. Or that Mr. Achmadinejad talks about the apocalypse the way geeks talk about the latest product from Apple...
are you going to sign up for this war bearster since you feel so strongly about it? They could put you on the front line and you can post a comment from one of those ditches the Iranians dug a few weeks ago.
LMAO
Well put. F@ck the Zionist big noses.
I don't know what's with your nose fetish man. Bringing it up twice in one weekend now? I mean, Ahmadinejad has got one as big as any.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/06/13/alg_ahmadinejad.jpg
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmou...
I can link to random UK newspapers too!
Ahmadinejad has no Jewish rootsRumours that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's family converted to Islam from Judaism are false. In fact, they are proud Shias
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/05/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-...
I can link to random UK newspapers too!
But you didn't link to a random UK newspaper. You linked to a Guardian article which does a pretty good job of disputing the Telegraph article I referenced.
Both articles would seem to have their merits and I could not say with confidence that one or the other can be called definitive. I thank you for sharing the information.
I think ol' Crockett may have really just been making the suggestion that there is a reason for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's big nose. "Disingenuous at best," isn't that one of your lines, Crockett?
zaknick
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 19:43
#536786
LMAO
Well put. F@ck the Zionist big noses.
by citationneeded
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 20:00
#536809
I don't know what's with your nose fetish man. Bringing it up twice in one weekend now? I mean, Ahmadinejad has got one as big as any.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/06/13/alg_ahmadinejad.jpg
by CrockettAlmanac.com
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 20:19
#536825
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmou...
What does disingenuousness have to do with it?
I re-read the thread - you are right. You were just pointing out a reason for the man having a big nose. Question: Why bother getting mixed up with a "nose" issue, Crockett?
My priorities begin with "anything for a laugh." Of course, I say that as an American of German Irish descent with a well proportioned proboscis.
yeah having a big nose has nothing to do with the persian empire being over-run by Muslims and their big noses. Perhaps they were over-run by the jews before that in a 300 type of takeover.
Yes, but apparently once suspected for being a Jew there is no way back.
Kinda like being labeled a Communist by McCarthy, isn't it?
Why do you believe that such a conclusion is apparent?
Because the first article make a lot of claims which the second article demolishes. Hence the first article is worthless, and yet someone claims they 'both have merit'. No they dont, the first makes claims which the second effectively refutes, leaving us back where we started, with no reason to belive he is Jewish.
If nothing else, the first article tells us that Imadinnerjacket's family made some change in their identity which is interesting in and of itself and therefore has merit. Did you know this before you read the article? If you fear Imadinnerjacket don't you want as much background as possible on him?
Also, can you prove that everything in the first article is false and everything in the second is true? Just because one attempts to refute an argument does not mean that one has refuted an argument. If you really believe that than this refutation of your argument by me proves that you are wrong and without merit.
Like I said: once suspected as a Jew, there is practically no way to remove the suspicion.
Alas, who am I kidding? You're the guy who believes that the Wehrmacht was packed full of pure, practicing Jews.
But you know for a fact that 150,000 jews and half-jews did serve in Hitler's army. Why do you so despise the truth?
And how many full/half/etc Italian and Germans served in the US Armed forces in WW2, conspiracy boy?
What makes you think there is a conspiracy? It's just a historic fact. Why does this fact make you so angry?
Amazing how you avoid commenting on the makeup of the US Armed forces in WW2. Keep up the charade that you're merely stating facts without any opinion behind them.
What's so amazing? Lots of German American and Italian Americans and Japanese Americans served in the US armed forces in WWII. It's a fact. Would you like confirmation that that water is wet, too?
Why does the fact that 150,000 jews and half jews served in Hitler's army enrage you to so much?
LOL @ "enrage".
Then I suppose that your brain is as devoid of opinion when you state that fact, just as when you state that water is wet. Or are you merely in the habit of dropping "facts" out of nowhere in certain kind of discussions and that one just happened to be next on the list, as opposed to, for example, "the sky is blue"?
Like I said: keep up the charade.
Please consider going back on your medication.
LOL @ you classic avoidance tactic.
I can't wait for your next context-free "fact" spewing session.
The context will be there for those wise enough to see it.
More empty words from the world greatest fact book.
Can't wait for the next time you turn tail when I push you about your "facts".
You can't even post a readable message. How damned dumb are you, anyway?
No Shiat!
+100
How about Pakistan? They already have the bomb. Want war also there? Why only Iran? Why not, for example, North Korea? Ah, forgot...neither Pakistan nor North Korea have OIL!!!
Perhaps because Pakistan has not threatened to wipe another country off the face of the earth. North Korea - well they may be isolated and impoverished but they are controlled by China .
Neither has Iran. Do you believe all nonsense spewed by the statist media? Let me guess... you also think the war in Iraq is over.
You are the one deceived by your holocaust denying, revisionist friends.
Your comment posted before you were able to complete your point and explain to me how I have been deceived.
Agreed, or that Iraq had WMD to start with... (maybe he was that sure because he saw Hallyburton's delivery bills?)
Oil
If you remember, we used to talk a lot of smack to the Soviet Union, and they'd reply likewise, back in the day. Besides, Israel already has 200 nukes.
Iran never threatened to wipe out Israel. That was a hyped up mistranslation by the warhawk media. And yes, it's all about the oil and natural gas. Iran has the second largest natural gas reserves in the world and the third largest easily accessible oil reserves. Oh, and high oil prices would cause the dollar to rally, as petroleum is mostly traded in dollars, AKA the petrodollar.
Actually the mistranslation was originally made by an Iranian translator who mistook the Iranian phrase "The Zionist regime will be wiped from the page of history," (simply meaning regime change) for the idiomatic English expression "wiped off the map," or "wiped of the face of the earth."
Western media has repeated the mistake without bothering to correct the translation.
Wouldn't wiped from the page of history imply that it will be as if they never existed? How would one bring about such a state through regime change? New regime is in power, but the old regime is still there, giving interviews to the news media. Such a situation (giving interviews to the news media) hardly brings to mind a state of being as if they never existed.
That's the thing about idiomatic speech -- it doesn't literally mean what it says. Does "wiped off the map" mean to totally destroy or to literally wipe off a map? Does "removed from the page of history" mean to stop the progress of a particular policy or to literally remove pages from a history book?
We understand common idioms in our own language but translations can be messy. Thus the translatin error.
I'll go with the translation given below: "vanish from the page of time". That more closely approximates "cease to exist". A regime can cease to exist, even though it's leaders are still giving interviews to the media.
The full quote translated directly to English:
"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
The fact that a 30-year-old, mis-translated Khomenei quote is constantly cited when one points out the fact that Iran has not threatened aggression against any other country (although, like all governments, their citizens would be better off without them), shows that not only is the argument weak, it's non-existent.
True.. But they really need that one right now.. Need it badly..
But Pakistan has indeed tried, twice, to wipe India off the face of the earth - failing that, Pakistan tried to kill India's parliament .... But talk matters much more than actual behaviour, I gather!
Exactly. Brown and yellow people don't count. Only whites and Jews (preferably both) count.
An American DEA asset is being held in the US in connection with the Mumbai attack. The US will not give India access to the prisoner. Interesting, isn't it?
Crockett, this junk you got reminded me of Orwell's line:
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
The truth, out of context, is not useful.
The truth, out of context, is not useful.
Thanks for disclosing your M.O.
Transparency, and all that.
Indeed, RichardPerle, and it is up to you to provide the right context so that the right truth may blossom in all its useful glory, I presume.
its no use trying to find out a reason for this behaviour by these TALMUDIC zionist....OIL or no OIL......they r working according to a plan by some mason called Pike.....even PAKISTAN is being attacked .....we always knew there was a plan to break up PAKISTAN ...balochistan......steal their BOMB.....so the masons are trying all sorts of warefare including the weather weapon.............the weather pattern witnessed in different parts of the world have stunned n destroyed many.....Fires in Russia ...Floods in Pakistan n China......Pakistan has been hit so badly that they r about to collapse....many here must have heard about HAARP.............( do u know that a former senator called TED STEVENS was killed recently).:::
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/08/21/top-us-senator-assassinated-as-o...
+1.
The only reason iran is making a nuclear bomb is to balance the power with Israel. Isreal has currently 500 nuclear bombs, iran has none.
If someone wants to make a nuclear terrorist attack to israel, us , europe they can do it without iranian, pakistani or NK's help. Russians sell very small size nuclear bombs in the black market which one can carry in a bag. Any terrorist organization can reach these sources and buy it.
All wars in the middle east are for oil only.
The US National Intelligence Estimate states that Iran has no nuclear weapons program.
People like you should be dropped from a plane onto whatever country you want to attack, without a parachute.
Their righteous conviction will sunder the earth before them as they approach; any lesser, more rational man will simply perish.
Or their unmanned bomber. Funny how all the arab states in the Gulf want Israel to strike.
Iran is not an Arab state, the folks there are Persian. Make sure you kill the right people when you strike.
And who but an Arab or Persian (dirty Muslims) could conceive of an unmanned aircraft which bombs people? It's an infernal machine, an engine of infamy of which the gentle American character can scarcely comprehend.
Go get 'em!
Nice Irony Crockett. You are Ironyman on this thread.
The predator.... very interesting war-machine, as it allowed a further disambiguation from death. Like they are building machines that will be controllable with 3-D "game" environments, with arm-chair warriors, shooting, killing, bombing...
Surreal world.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
Hi ORI,
I am Ironyman...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MII3ns2KTBc
I prefer - Crockett the "provocateur." Takes one to know one, ol' buddy.
On dial-up so no vids, but I know you are, so all good.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
I was on dial up until June then got DSL for $20/month. Well worth it. I love to watch videos especially Ayn Rand interviews on youtube.
Sorry, i misunderstood "unmanned" as in "balls cut off" or "not without Viagra".
what about israels constant threats? you want to be the worlds policeman and bankrupt the united states doing it? why is Iran's proxy war against israel something we need to start a war over ? how many proxy wars we got going do you think? what about the one we have with jundallah against Iran? give me a break with this b.s.
Have a war dance on me - courtesy of the All Black New Zealand rugby team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHW1K2LeQXE&feature=related
What is this "low-level" proxy war you speak of? Do tell us more. I see no evidence of war being waged on Israel from Lebanon at this time.
You mean besides them being officially at war? Of course ignoring the huge build up of Iranian supplied Hezbollah arms aimed at Israel from Lebanon. Not to mention the flotilla provocation. Yes besides all that, and the ambush on the Israeli's clearing a tree in the neutral zone, there is no "war" going on.
Umm packing for war...eh...umm what to pack[?] (weight is a factor)...body armor or a economy size pack of Depends.
Skippy...damn the gods of technology for not yet producing Kevlar undergarments!!!
Kevlar undergarments!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Draggin-Liners-size-X-Large-Motorcycle/dp/B001J1JB...
When did the zionists become part of "western civilization"? It is unfortunate that the jewish people have to be used as a pawn in a war of stupidity. Israel, if you want to bomb Iran- you're choice, but I would do everything possible to isolate you and make you pay any price for your actions.
The US should not lift one finger, financial or otherwise, to help the Israelis. I am not a "hairshirted pacifist", nor am I an ignorant militarist who defines peace as the destruction of another people. The US government has declared this plant to be acceptable and for peaceful electric generation. This knisset member is a tool and deserves whatever apocalypse he creates.
Si vis pacem para bellum? That means you prepare, not act upon.
For anybody to initiate force is wrong! I don't give a shit who it is.
Israel and Iran fight to the death... two problems solved at once.
Is it going to be a cage match?
greed and stupidity will never die. Goes good with fries and coke
An Apocalypse (Greek: ?ποκ?λυψις Apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted
..and the merchants of the earth wept and mourned, since no one buys their cargo any more, cargo of gold, silver, jewels, and pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, and scarlet, all kinds of scented wood, all articles of ivory, all articles of costly wood, bronze, iron, and marble, cinnamon, spice, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls...In one hour all this wealth has been laid waste...and all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off and cried out...
Apocalypse 18 ~
No, I'm not religious, yet.
So we should short chariot manufacturers?
One would think that a prophet who was adept enough to correctly predict the apocalypse would have also noticed that there wouldn't be many horse drawn vehicles making the rounds in the end times.
Chariots for sale.
Chariots for sale ...you pick
Chariots for sale.
Nice site. Might be nice to email the prophecy to them so that they can get into some other line of work. Or at least tip them off about the internal combustion engine.
You are right, I will go ahead, and give him a heads up.
The 2012 phenomenon comprises a range of eschatological beliefs that cataclysmic or transformative events will occur on December 21, 2012,[1][2][3] which is said to be the end-date of a 5,125-year-long cycle in the Mayan Long Count calendar. Various astronomical alignments and numerological formulae related to this date have been proposed, but none have been accepted by mainstream scholarship.
Revelation 20:12 ..." And I saw the dead small and greatstand before God; and the books were opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." ...
Judgement Day
The Bible says the Euphrates river will be the initial division between the North and the South when the nations of the world begin to align in preparation for the battle of Armageddon.
blow them both up
Russians built that reactor and they wont take kindly to you blowing it up. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.Reasonable people have said in fact I think it was Matt Simmons that Iran's ability to export will end in less than a decade. They will generate new-clear energy and will never attack Isreal.just chill niggers we can do this.
The same thoughts have been in my mind ever since Tyler posted the article about israel having 8 days left to bomb the reactor. There are too many outside interests involved. Big ones with the means to destroy anything in their path.
Therefore I agree with you. It will never happen.
I will lend you an 'a'.
Used to think the same thing too until I saw what this country will do to itself and others for oil
Mr. Tarzan, you are a hard person to catch up to! I am still trying to make sense of our recent exchange. Would you please elaborate? Thank you, kind sir.
by MeTarzanUjaneon Fri, 08/20/2010 - 14:32
#533813
Hey VI, I think it's getting junked by the israelis because they have a corner on everything gay especially the israeli army and barney 'backdoor' frank. This may lead to a reduction in profits.
But I'm just guessing about the motives of the junkers. Thank you for soliciting our opinions.
by Village Idiot
on Fri, 08/20/2010 - 15:16
#533905
Interesting viewpoint, Tarzan. Although I can't speak for Israelis who might be junking, in the spirit of full disclosure, I am Jewish. Just your average run of the mill Jew, though - no affiliations, no agenda.
by MeTarzanUjane
on Fri, 08/20/2010 - 16:18
#534001
No affiliations but declares judaism? Yea, no agenda. That's obvious. Did you catch the ghay while you were a student at NYU? Kind regards.
by Village Idiot
on Sat, 08/21/2010 - 13:19
#534056
Huh?
Edit: Not the agenda you imply.
Mr. Tarzan, what are you saying here? btw, I was a five year student at a two year community college.
The Russians have been paid for the reactor. Do you think GM gets pissed when a car they've sold gets totaled? For the Russians this is mainly about bringing in cash. The reactor they sold doesn't belong to them. (duh)
There's always a war being fought somewhere; this is the state of Humanity since the beginning and will continue to the end.
It's always raining somewhere in the world but that doesn't mean that precipitation constitutes the entire nature of weather.
*Clap*
ORI
Yet it still rains... which is the my point, lost in a hurricane of failed reader analogies.
there's always a central bank somewhere funding both sides of a war to no end...
*Clap Clap*
ORI
Sometimes the snake can't swallow the pig
The snake couldn't swallow the pig,
Cuz the porker was just too damned big.
So after some scuffles,
The pig shared his truffles,
Which both of them really could dig.
*Clap Clap Clap* and a Hahaha to boot!
ORI
Oh regional one,
When are we going to together the group of "one thousand?" Peace.
Hey VI,
As soon as the thousand show up :-) My (and your) slightly non-financial stuff and calls for action are interestingly received here.
I feel an urge, to do, like you, in a way, to sway, the mind, hive, collective;
if only changing the world was a change of perspective.
Then again, maybe it is.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
The Globalists want Iran gone. Iranian oil rightfully belongs to the British Royals and all their Hoity-Toity
pals. Iranian contracts with China, Russia, and the rest goes against commonly accepted, approved business practices. That is to say it is an impediment to the monopolist agenda. War could also provide great cover in the event of the Big Crash. The IDF is just something to be used like the U.S. military to further the goals of the ruling oligarchy; another clone army. This has little to nothing to do with some future potential nuclear threat from Iran. Interestingly Israeli agents have been all over Patagonia in recent years scoping the place out. Are they are considering a relocation?
One of the best responses here, right on. Don't forget all that 1953 coup d'etat and SAVAK unpleasantness as well. The ghost of Churchill is cursing the middle east through the present day.
Don't forget all that 1953 coup d'etat
My dad used to drive a '53 coup d'etat convertible. He said it was one sweet ride.
That one had the flip-out fins, right? And semaphores in the door posts for turn indicators. Sweeeet.
That's the one. Granddad drove a Studebaker Hawk.
Oh, Lord, please let me die peacefully like my grandfather. Not like the people who were screaming in the back of his car did.
No disrespect towards gramps - that joke always pops into my head when I hear about grandpa driving - especially mine.
"Good Night America"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds09rrtz43g
Good observation, many jews went to Argentina when hitler was killing them, it is kind of like their summer home?
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 22:31
#536964
Good observation, many jews went to Argentina when hitler was killing them, it is kind of like their summer home?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was the Nazi's who were being killed - when (they) fled to Argentina.
Junker, please correct me if I am wrong on my history. The invitation was already extended to you once.
You are correct, but there are many jews in Argentina, I did not junk your post.
Not gonna happen.
Israel faces its survival - Iran promotes it ambitions - My question to the International Community - With the introduction of Iran's 'Ambassador of Death' Drone - Iran clearly looks to extend its aggressive posture, however, I am certain that the 'Club International' will remain on the side lines slinging inane commentary - Iran will play the 'Islam/Muslim' card & everyone else will pander - can see this one from the cheap seats unfortunately...
!940's - the creation of Israel was a fu*king mistake. All the world's problems come from this singular mistake.
Wow, let me guess, you are a proud graduate of the US public school system.
Mazel Tov.
on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 19:54
#536801
"!940's - the creation of Israel was a fu*king mistake. All the world's problems come from this singular mistake."
Thank you for not actually spelling out the word "fuck." Some might have found it offensive.
Yes, I junked your inflammatory comment.
no mistake, rather fulfilled prophecy - 580ish BC. : This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. I will make them one nation in the land on the mountains of Israel. Ezekial 37:21-22.
the khazars, are jewish converts ( 7th century), not biblical jews
... scientists are able to read Jewish genomes like a history book. The latest DNA volume weighs in on the controversial, centuries-old claim that European Jews are all the descendants of Khazars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the late eighth and early ninth century. The DNA has spoken: no.
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/06/03/the-dna-of-abraham-s-children.html
Note the date is June of 2010 for the article.
There is more interesting information here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi
... a 2006 study by Behar et al., based on high-resolution analysis of haplogroup K(mtDNA), suggested that about 40% of the current Ashkenazi population is descended matrilineally from just four women, or "founder lineages", that were "likely from a Hebrew/Levantine mtDNA pool" originating in the Middle East in the 1st and 2nd centuries CE.
Forty percent. So, a minority of Ashkenazis can claim that a long time ago their ancestors lived in Palestine. Interesting.
Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion said that the Palestinians are descendants of the Biblical Jews. The DNA evidence appears to confirm his belief:
Forty percent. So, a minority of Ashkenazis can claim that a long time ago their ancestors lived in Palestine.
Forty percent of Ashkenazis can trace their ancestry to 4 women. The other 60 percent trace their ancestry to a wider group of women. Your response suggest that you didn't read the articles. And the subject is whether Ashkenazis are the direct descendants of the Khazars.
Believe it or not, I do not read every article linked to on Internet forums. I relied on the quotation you provided. If the quotation provided was insufficient to make your point then the fault lies with you.
My quote was sufficient to make my point. You made a totally different point. I think you wouldn't have made that different point if you had read the article. But I get your point about not reading all links. I don't either.
There is a consistant claim on this blog that the Ashkenazi (European) Jews are not Biblical Jews but are the descendants of the Khazars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the late eighth and early ninth century. If 40% of Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to just 4 women in the Middle Eastern jewish community, that fact by itself negates the claim that all Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Khazars. That was my point, and my quote supported it.
Oh, Crockett, your cracks are showing, buddy. :-)
What do you mean?
If 40% of Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to just 4 women in the Middle Eastern jewish community, that fact by itself negates the claim that all Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Khazars.
Couldn't they be descendants of both? Also, couldn't these middle eastern ancestors have been Semites other than Jews? Arabs are also Semitic and have lived closer to historic Khazar territory and in greater numbers.
And what of the claim that the Palestinians are descendants of Biblical Jews and Christians? It seems logical and the DNA evidence appears to support the premise. Seems to me that the Palestinians are as much, if not more, the Children of Abraham as compared to the Ashkenazis.
You will find the answers to your questions in the articles I linked to. That saves space here.
Thanks. That answers my questions without having to read those articles.
The Truth About Religion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGkRFFBd0AZionism is opposed to Jewish Law.
The Talmud in Tractate Kesubos (p. 111a), teaches that Jews shall not use human force to bring about the establishment of a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted Moshiach (Messiah from the House of David). Furthermore it states that the Jewish people are forbidden to rebel against the nations and that they should remain loyal citizens and not attempt to leave the exile which G-d sent them into, ahead of time.
Don't get me wrong, Ahmadinejad is a statist nutjob (although he is an amateur compared to Bush, Obama, Bibi, etc. in using the apparatus of the state to murder) but the extreme weakness of the arguments used to make Iran appear dangerous is how you know they aren't (at least relatively compared to other states).
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Ohhh.. I get it.. You just watched the evening news and now you are really smart and understand what's going on over there..
Give me a break.. You have the insight of a child.
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"Ohhh.. I get it.. You just watched the evening news and now you are really smart and understand what's going on over there..
Give me a break.. You have the insight of a child."
Um...I would have to call "kettle" here. "Disingenuous at best."
Yes, your conditioning would force such an assertion..
It is so apparent that I repeat talking points from the nightly news.. Pot, kettle, black.. whatever.. sounds good.. right?
Boy, I see you are attacking with the "Disingenuous at best" I notice you accused another of it being his catch phrase and now rightfully tossed it towards me because I do like to use that accusation.
You just keep sticking up for Israel and demonizing all Arabs and Americans that don't buy into Jewish brainwashing.. You still have numbers on your side.. Use them while you can.
Your insults appeal to simple-minded, that's about it. But, then again, I suppose you know that going in.
Some here do not work and play well with others.