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Osama Bin Laden Killed: Implications First Take
From Stratfor
Osama bin Laden Killed
The United States has killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and recovered his body, according to numerous media reports May 1 citing U.S. officials. U.S. President Barack Obama is scheduled to make an announcement on the subject. It is not clear precisely how bin Laden was killed or how his body was recovered, but the assertion that he is dead is significant.
Bin Laden had become the symbol of al Qaeda, even though the degree to which he commanded the organization was questionable. The symbolic value of his death is obvious. The United States can claim a great victory. Al Qaeda can proclaim his martyrdom.
It is difficult to understand what this means at this moment, but it permits the Obama administration to claim victory, at least partially, over al Qaeda. It also opens the door for the beginning of a withdrawal from Afghanistan, regardless of the practical impact of bin Laden’s death. The mission in Afghanistan was to defeat al Qaeda, and with his death, a plausible claim can be made that the mission is complete. Again speculatively, it will be interesting to see how this affects U.S. strategy there.
Equally possible is that this will trigger action by al Qaeda in bin Laden’s name. We do not know how viable al Qaeda is or how deeply compromised it was. It is clear that bin Laden’s cover had been sufficiently penetrated to kill him. If bin Laden’s cover was penetrated, then the question becomes how much of the rest of the organization’s cover was penetrated. It is unlikely, however, that al Qaeda is so compromised that it cannot take further action.
At this early hour, the only thing possible is speculation on the consequences of bin Laden’s death, and that speculation is inherently flawed. Still, the importance of his death has its consequences. Certainly one consequence will be a sense of triumph in the United States. To others, this will be another false claim by the United States. For others it will be a call to war. We know little beyond what we have been told, but we know it matters.
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The fact that all this went down just outside Islamabad is akin to bin Ladin hiding outside the Washington Beltway for the last 10 years while the Pentagon searched in vain.
With friends like Pakistan, who needs friends?
Think of the last decade of favors, bull-shitting, money, drones, nuke help and the rest that Pakistan played the US taxpayers the fool for.
What a complete disgrace on behalf of all the fallen Americans and innocent civilians in AfPak that got killed because the ISI wanted a clever ride. 10 years of stabbing the US in the back. Pakistan caused more harm to America than all of AQ.
If this nation had any sense or pride, we would nerve gas Pakistan for all their "help" in this fisaco - largely created by THEM!
Where is Zawahiri? Having lunch at the Pakistani AF Officer's club?
Thanks for nothing Pakistani fuck-o's.
PS: I hope India turns your pure land of rocks and medieval thinking into a shiny slab of glass.
Remember when it was leaked that Pakistan was funding the Taliban with US aid money? Hilary rushed to defend them.. it's all politics. They're all political hacks... and they're all crooked.
India has been ready for the last 2 decades to turn that piece-o-crapistan into a molten slab of glass. However, it was thwarted at every attempt by yours truly, Uncle Sam. The place where OBL was found was in a place called Abbotabad. You know what is unique about the name? Abbott-abad. Yup that s right named after an ex-british guy pre-independence. You know why that's important? Any anglicanized names sounding places on the sub-continent have traditionally had military bases of one form or another around. I am willing to bet where OBL was hiding was a stone's throw away from some kind of a army base.
ISI and the Pakistan Army have been playing the US tax payer and uncle sam for a fool. Its nothing new. They have been doing this for decades. Pakis are some of the vilest double crossing bastards on the planet. Just look up General Zia-ul-Haq. A human excrement if there was any....
Every time when Oil/Gold/Silver reached a monument top, strange event alway happens , then Oil... collapsed. Is this all coincident? ZHers think about it.
I hope they pound the shit out of PMs this week so I can buy, buy buy!
You may get your chance.
I would like to see it go below thirty and i would buy back in for sure.
I might even buy back in for the mid thirties.
Now wait a minute. That may be true, but I think more likely you are confusing cause and effect.
Is it that an event always knocked down oil and PMs as they topped?
Or that they topped because some event happen which knocked them down?
I suspect it is the latter.
Also consider, if this was the nefarious plan, how effective has it been? Not very.
Former (asassinated) Pakistan Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, in an interview with David Frost said Bin Laden was killed years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
Am I missing something? Was Osama killed in an airstrike or did the CIA shoot him in the head in a mansion in Islamabad? Was it a week ago or was it two days ago?
OBL was most likely taken out in 2007, but you have to remember that there is no profit in peace, so why announce it? That would only mean that the contractors' party would be over. NO WAY!
Whatever. I don't care what the real facts are. I just want to know how they're being staged and packaged to people. The story they're telling seems to be inconsistent on major points.
I salute zerohedge.
Part of me thought this announcement would be met with jingoistic nonsense, even here. I should have known better.
Notice how the lone defenders of Obama and Empire are getting drowned out.
There may be enough of us to make a difference now.
I love you guys.
They can dna test to see if it really is him. Osama first denied then admitted he was behind twin towers.
Now maybe he had some help from the israelis or another group but it may be a good excuse to extricate ourselves from afghanistan, so his death has to be a good thing. I am pleased, but i want all the other culprits too.
How about a bounty on Bendonkeys head ?
ZH readers are different because we pride in Critical Thinking and not follow like sheeples.
F the President is on the radio now. I can still picture him with the fucking telepromter . No clue president and leading the rest just like him. Who would have thought?
So what is the purpose of this latest distraction?
2012 Election and the Birth Cert I guess. What else and also lets not forget the awful FOMC Press meeting last week. Nothing new same old crap and lies and distractions Americans love to keep the sheeples occupied. Bunch of fucking Zima Drinkers.
i would suggest Fukushima but hardly anyone is covering that as it is.
Nah Americans have short attention span. How about Haiti, how about Egypt, How about Libya m How about NZ, how about Alabama and the list goes on and on. Nothing will be solved just lots of distraction to keep the sheeples from thinking and stay focusssed
Wait, what is going on in Haiti? Am I that out of the loop?
Well the UN says they got the homeless population from 1.5 million down to 880 thousand and that some are in transit shelters. Which makes me say also. What the fuck IS going on in haiti.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/...
Which makes me say also. What the fuck IS going on in haiti.
The WFP page has gone all cached & weird, but Slick Willie is there doing PR, I think.
http://www.wfp.org/countries/Haiti/Media/President-Bill-Clinton-On-Schoo...
Looks like if you want to eat, you attend school.
Make what hay of that you like - looks like uplift to me.
"Which makes me say also. What the fuck IS going on in haiti."
the oil is getting bubbly under the surface.
I guess they needed an excuse to cut military spending.
Terrorist threats are going to become very expensive. Crank up the printing press.
I am happy he is gone and rejoicing. However, this does not change much. Osama was a figurehead, a symbol, who we targeted our hate and made our mission to kill. The actual enemy are the terrorists. It is tough to say so soon, but this may embolden the terrorists or shatter their beliefs and demoralize them. I unfortunately believe more in the former rather than the latter. This is a great occasion, don't get me wrong, but its significance is more or less hollow. Nothing has been solved. The same problems we had a week ago are still ever-present. Tyler, keep monitoring the back channels, this will be used as a cloak to hide meaningful happenings in the back pages.
This has got to be hamy with a new shtic.
Whoever is doing these new characters is talented.
I still cant be sure if gunslinger is real or if it might
be hamy in a new guise.
What if robotrader isnt real and is also a hamy character?
Not sure what you are talking about. I just joined this week for THE FIRST TIME. I can assure you that I am not gunslinger, not that you would believe me anyway.. Who or what is hamy?
Read up on the town where he lived and was killed. A luxury town full of the Pakistani military and home of the Pakistan Military Academy. I hate Pakistan and damn China who gave them nuclear weapons. The Pakistani bomb was designed built and tested by the Chinese. We have been at war with the ISI for a decade. They run the Taliban and Al Qaeda
Very true
But they adopted al queda later. It was a kuwaiti and a couple of Saudi Sheiks who bankrolled them after the cia was through with them. Bargaining chip with the usa. I guess they got from us what they were asking for.
A Chinese tool now if not a proxy.
The Chinese set up Pakistan and N Korea with the bomb.
You forget that Ben Laden's is America's own Frankenstein monster...created by Bill Casey of CIA and Turki ben Faisal, his Saudi counterpart, prince of ruling Saud clan, and minister of security and army in kingdom. It all started to use muslim fanatism against Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1980. America's man in charge of Pakistan was Persident Zia ul Huq, who created the Taibans, the ISI, and aided their effort in Aghanistan as he was a fundamentalist. Twenty years later the same poison cookies turned rogue against their US mentors, especially as aftermath of their power play in ME, when they attacked Iraq in Operation Desert Storm, occupying permanently holy land of Saudi since 1991. That was the casus belli that Ben Laden used to attack USA on 9/11. So this is just part of the shit storm that the CIA created for itself with its Saudi surrogates. China aided the PAk nuclear program started clandestinely in 1975 'cos USA wouldn't after the USSR imploded.
In fact they had their local point man, Zia, probably killed in 1988 for being stubborn about continuing PAk nuclear deal inhouse and for supporting Hekmateyar in Afghanistan when the CIA had dropped him as being too rabid and pro Iran; after soviet withdrawal from Kabul.
If I understand your post correctly, you are saying that Bin Laden was working in a 7-Eleven in Pakistan when a CIA guy walked in, bought some piggy puffs and asked out loud if there was anyone in the store who wanted to go to Afghanistan and kick some ass?
Nope in 1980 he was in Saudi, where his billionaire Ben Laden family lives, friends of the Saud princes and one of the main civil contractors of the Kingdom. Ossama volunteered to head the Saudi task force seconded to Afghanistan by the joint CIA/Saudi venture (Turki/Casey) to lead/forment counter insurgency in Afghan after Soviet attack. The rest is Ossama's personal history and well documented on wiki.
Bread and Circuses!
They told him and told him, not to get that iphone, but NOOOOOO.
What bills are passing through congress while the nations attention is diverted I wonder.
Silver will be back up to 49 by Thursday, any takers?
Sure, you are on.
This was major and would be strange to be fully retraced in a week.
"Today, at my direction..." @ 3:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLpwwC4iruQ
Does it mean we're watching the finale of Afghanistan series? Paetruse moved elsewhere, OBL "dead" (as if he ever lived outside of the script). What is happening to other characters?
How appropriate to use George Friedman’s pro-war, pro-Israel, neo-conservative Stratfor, completely biased as a source, at a moment when truth is so desperately needed.
That said, just be thankful that the U.S. didn’t capture bin Laden alive and bring him over here for trial.
Already the MSM is using bin Laden’s death as a tool to excuse Israeli aggression in Palestine and the Middle East, pulling out such bin Laden video quotes as this in tonight’s coverage:
“Our terrorism is against America. Our terrorism is a blessed terrorism to prevent the unjust person from committing injustice and to stop American support for Israel, which kills our sons.”
Sandy Berger, President’s Clinton’s national security adviser with strong ties to Israel, told ABC News: “Osama bin Laden may be the most dangerous non-state terrorist in the world."
Already, the state-controlled media has labeled bin Laden the “most wanted man on earth,” who “left a violent mark.”
This kind of overdone, one-sided injustice is the reason for the revolutions in the Middle East; this kind of one-sided blind hate-rhetoric is what’s turning the peoples in the ME against their U.S. puppets. America has turned Iran into one of the strongest nations in the ME by following a Netanyahu-foreign policy of hatred.
That’s why the World Trade Center was targeted, many say with Israeli help in order to implicate their enemies. That’s why you can’t get on an airplane without being strip searched.
If Americans want to adopt Israeli foreign policy as their own, then they must adopt the enemies of Israel as their own. That comes with the war on terror. The people who would like to destroy Israel because Israel is destroying them will destroy you – even to blowing up themselves to kill you. Israel must be happy to have you die for their aggression in Palestine, instead of them. I have yet to notice Israeli soldiers in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or in all the other trouble spots of the world. It is American soldiers and American money that I see.
Bin Laden considered the U.S. and Israel as evil; the problem is, the U.S. turns out to be Israel and, now, we’re to take the bullets.
Go fuck yourself idiot.
hit a little close to home, did it?
No, it's utter nonsense. There are 44 million Americans on Food Stamps. Ask JR what he thinks of them?
Excellent reply.
Time to kick some Israeli ass now except for the fact that you bought the US government and all it's minions.
Your day will come for your atrocities
I dont understand why we allow a tiny nation, who sold our military secrets to russia in exchange for more open jewish emigration, the pollard case and the most damaging spy episode of the late 20th century, to direct our foreign policy for their benefit.
You left out the Liberty incident!
The fact that Osama has been shot dead is a good thing. While I am not a fan of Stratfor, Freeman makes a reasonble case for US withdrawal from Afghanistan and offers some insight to how this nightmare might finally end.
Well it's a good thing they got him. 'Cause if all those billions had been spent and all those lives been wasted for naught, I guess all the trillions lost and all the millions of homes wrecked by the home grown financial terrorists in the mean time would have looked that much worse.
It looks like Rio de Janeiro during carnival outside the White House.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. —Albert Einstein
They're over-playing their hand. The jig is up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I
"You boys are gonna have to fess up."
SECURITY concerns are believed to have been behind the postponement of Prince William and his new wife's honeymoon. The newlyweds surprised many by revealing that they would not be immediately travelling overseas for the traditional post-wedding break.
The couple will instead spend time at an undisclosed location in the UK before Prince William goes back to work next week.The sudden change came despite aides having said consistently that the honeymoon would immediately follow the wedding.
There was speculation it may have been prompted by security concerns.
The couple were originally believed to have booked a honeymoon in Jordan
I wouldn't fly for a week either.
You got a good point.
British royals knew it on 4/30 because that's when they cancelled the honemoon.
To that global alert for US citizens...
Damn that shit. Lets raise some fucking hell out there. Lets raise a collective middle finger to the islamofacisti. Fuck em. Assert some dominance. Show no fucking fear.
Junk on bitchez. Fear is the fuel of terrorism, no matter what form it takes.
Showing those fuckers that we do not fear them is how we defeat them. Not bullets, not bombs, not diplomacy, but action by the average american man woman and child. Stand up and say FUCK YOU ISLAMOWEIRDOS.
Bullets do have their place however, like in the chest and forehead of UBL.
Oh-Dear!
umm look in the morror dude, that fascist is staring at you.
fucking nutbar
I had **one hell of a good laugh** watching the deeply conflicted Obama announce that he'd killed that Muslim, Osama....
now let's see...how much did it cost to take him out?
I still fail to see how this does anything but make us less safe here in the US, I mean how would you feel if you were afghan and the US (et al) came in to your country and started doing the shit that's we've done there? You wouldn't be too happy now would you, well think about that, they're not too happy when we stick our noses into places where it doesn't belong.
Thinking that the US 'actions' in the ME won't have consequences is like saying the laws of physics don't exist. For every action there is an EQUAL and opposite reaction.
There are only a half dozen Islamofacist leaders out there with IQs above 92. One of them got taken out. It's time to troll to get the other 5.
+1 Ignatius
Next Sunday 10:30pm EDT, Obama will be hosting the OBL Memorial Awards.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/
Award Winners are;
Osama Bin Laden - World Hide And Seek Champion (2001 - 2011)
Team USA - ‘Marco - Polo’ World Championships, Teams Event (2001 – 2011)
CNBC keeping the financial world informed (11:08 Pacific) of market moving events...oh sorry, its about the Ninja blender.
god I loved that show - well done
Well I guess then one could surmise which stage the new theatre is about to open on...
Bela Lugo's Dead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U1SiIWuZeE
One said "tonight we are winners", another "this nightmare might finally end"
Scary stuff!
We didn't "win" and the "nightmare" doesn't end.
The empire fights on - to the very end.
We Need The Oil - at any cost; ANY cost!
Why can't you accept this obvious fact?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqTwce_ZLDw
Just pay attention, fear not, stand fast and do no harm. Things are going to get stranger. If you still need to BTFD Cup, ...well, that's too bad but, you really should stop when you think you have enough. Every bit of wrath in that cup will come to pass, there is no doubt. There will be a price for these gains, count on it.
Low and to the right
Let Freedom Ring, next kill is the US Gestapo Corps.
It's all a delusion, look up the word maya in Hindu, even the rounds you hold in your hands and safes are a delusion.
Namaste.
CNN announces ObL's body already buried at sea...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/02/501364/main20058795.shtml?utm_...(GameCore%3A+CBSnews.com)
This "Osama killed" scam is even worse than the birth certificate scam, lol
Freaky stuff going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lrthe8ZlvE&feature=related
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20110429/sc_space/sixplanetsnowalignedinthedawnsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bv1rQxgMbA
http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/the-israel-omen-an-interview-with-david-brennan/
http://gsn.nti.org/gsn/nw_20110426_6687.php
http://www.projectworldawareness.com/2010/10/terrifying-scientific-discovery-strange-emissions-by-sun-are-suddenly-mutating-matter/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaZIGAJAS0c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eATJ4PRXEJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3IyeV1bzLs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpWbWrW8oC0
The question is did they Want to kill him or maybe he died of natural causes or maybe they where Forced to kill him by circumstances, or maybe he was dead for years but they could not longer hold it secret ..
anyway dead men tell no tales
Dead men buried at sea tell less.
Haven't read through comments yet.
Did I just hear on the radio (Ireland) that he was buried at sea?
Saudi royals wanted him dead.
Oil prices will go down now. thank you Saudi royals for selling your own citizens out and keeping the monarchy over crude going so US can keep the gravy train going.
short oil. long US equities
Bin Lid-en dead?
Gets me to thinkin that the Easter Bunny might be next...
Driving the little guy back into the markets so the big guys will be able sell.
Can't crash the markets while the big guys are still in.
So much for the Republicans claims that Obama is weak on terrorism!! It is a good day for all Americans
Spot chart looks ugly, island reversal.
alex jones: infowars
Red Alert: Government Had Osama bin Laden Frozen for Years
I figured the hasbarat trolls and flag humpers would be out in force on this one. Is Megaphone down?
WAG THE DOG!
Watched that movie yesterday.. Exactly ! see the article posted below!
Osama was just Jason Bourne in disguise
As I said before, call me a skeptic, but there were reports that Bin Laden was dead years ago from kidney failure. Listening to the spin last evening reporters kept pounding away that this was a victory psychologically that comes at a time when American sentiment is at an all time low as was the Presidents ratings along with a crumbling financial empire. Gold and silver took a minimal hit and then recovered, but the most interesting part of all of this was that Bin Ladens body was dumped in the ocean. Nice knowing there are still some things in life that make you go Hmmmmmmm.
Funniest shit in a long time as I had just watched WAG THE DOG agin last week-hahahhahhhehe-- what blows me away is that this short movie news completely took over the news. Mean while Micheal Jacksons resurrection has not gotten a peep. Apparently LEGO bought the ash remains of Micheal and have incorporated his ashes into the Lego pieces (at least according to Micheals last will and testament) so that all the kids can play with him.
A spokesman said that the next greatest toy from them will be a replica RPG with real exploding poop grenades= way to kool.
Twaddle dee Twaddle DUM.
Meanwhile the true terrorists who impoloded the world economy go free.
obama = neo con puppet
now that the body is gone, we're gonna need another warren/9.11 commission to figure out what happened. not that it matters. they have DNA evidence. so, you don't need a body. plus, this just in from my world-class intel pooper scooperZ: we have OBL's Emmys and his golf clubs. so there!
plus, the WH and g/Sachs have now gotten buffet to STFU and put him and becky away for a while. (didya see her leading the way into the annual meeting of Berk.Hath.?) they did poorly, due to insurance, but the 1/2 $Bn up-tick from the RR was nice. this is one of buffet's "regulated businesses" as opposed to, say, moody's, which still needs to rate dagong, as far as i'm concerned.
now, we shld hear from ann coulter, cheney and rummy; and of course, kissinger. then they can raise the debt ceiling, and our banksters can go rape greece for the NWO, save europe (after the euro hits 150+) and see if they can keep japan reflated.
they "got" bin laden, but they missed the moQ. the CIA is now free to flip-flop all over the place. who knows what will blow up next, and why... at least they didn't take him out with a drone. flying a little remote-controlled plane into a building--how cowardly!
I'm really glad this site exists. The second I read the news(I don't have cable) and the part about "buried at sea," I had my doubts.
It's good to know there's a place where I can come where I'm not alone in this thinking.
Kudos to everyone.
I sure the photos of his dead body will be released soon enough....the photos they took before he was "buried at sea" , If not no one will buy it!
tyler will publish one of him walking on the moon.
The signs are all around that Amerika's best days are behind us. Even for those willing to see, you might not cue in on all of those signs. I am struck this morning at the stories and pictures of the sheeple literally wrapping themselves in flags and celebrating the death of a man, however despicable he is/was. These remind me of the pictures you would see in third world countries.
Here is a good article relating to things..
http://www.treasurefreedom.com/2011/05/02/the-concept-of-misdirection-and-how-it-relates-to-financial-markets/
Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden was Murdered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg&feature=related
The Many Non-Deaths of Osama Bin Laden: The Show That Never Ends
The US will unashamedly declare victory and withdraw from Afghanistan as planned and begin cutting back on defence spending. What happens in Afghanistan aftwerwards is irrelevent, since the country gets little media attention anyway.
Are you joking? There's a trillion dollar vein of lithium...we ain't going anywhere!
double post
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t-Zr2gNXhQ&feature=player_embedded
Wonder what the chance is that Obama uses this shit in his reelection campaign.
America, fuck yeah! Here we come to save the motherfucking day yeah!!