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Deal/No Deal in Copenhagen, Ice Age-Versus-Global Warming, and "Solutions" Which Cause More Harm Than Good
Non-Binding "Sham Agreement" Reached At Copenhagen. “Rich Countries ... Sought to Bribe and Bully Developing Nations"
An agreement - of sorts - was reached at Copenhagen.
The Copenhagen Accord is not legally binding and - apparently - does not specify either target emission reductions or monetary contributions of various countries. Here is a copy of the actual Copenhagen Accord (notice that the Appendices for target emissions and monetary contributions are blank).
Friends of the Earth says of the Copenhagen Accord:
Climate
negotiations in Copenhagen have yielded a sham agreement with no real
requirements for any countries. This is not a strong deal or a just one
-- it isn't even a real one. It's just repackaging old positions and
pretending they're new.
A Greenpeace representative said:
This latest draft is so weak as to be meaningless.
And a representative of the anti-poverty group, World Development Movement said:
This
summit has been in complete disarray from start to finish, and now
appears to be culminating in a shameful and monumental failure ... The
leaders of rich countries have refused to lead and instead sought to
bribe and bully developing nations ...
Obama's Current Science Advisor Warned in the 1970's of an Imminent Ice Age
Preface: My entire purpose
for writing this essay is to urge that decision-makers do what is best
for our planet and not do something which will cause more harm than
good. Environmentalists should check my background below before
dismissing this out of hand.
When I pointed out
a couple of days ago that a group of scientists and much of the popular
press warned in the 1970s of an imminent ice age, I didn't realize they
had such a prominent member.
Specifically, as New York Times science columnist John Tierney noted in September:
In
1971, long before Dr. Holdren came President Obama’s science adviser,
in an essay [titled] “Overpopulation and the Potential for Ecocide,”
Dr. Holdren and his co-author, the ecologist Paul Ehrlich, warned of a coming ice age.
They
certainly weren’t the only scientists in the 1970s to warn of a coming
ice age, but I can’t think of any others who were so creative in their
catastrophizing. Although they noted that the greenhouse effect from
rising emissions of carbon dioxide emissions could cause future warming
of the planet, they concluded from the mid-century cooling trend that
the consequences of human activities (like industrial soot, dust from
farms, jet exhaust, urbanization and deforestation) were more likely to
first cause an ice age. Dr. Holdren and Dr. Ehrlich wrote:The
effects of a new ice age on agriculture and the supportability of large
human populations scarcely need elaboration here. Even more dramatic
results are possible, however; for instance, a sudden outward slumping
in the Antarctic ice cap, induced by added weight, could generate a
tidal wave of proportions unprecedented in recorded history.
Shooting Soot into the Upper Atmosphere
And when I wrote
that some scientists considered pouring soot over the Arctic in the
1970s to help melt the ice - to prevent an ice age - I didn't realize
that soot was still on the table as a way to battle climate change.
Specifically, Dr. Holdren has suggested (as a last resort):
Shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays.
The most common type of man-made "pollution particle" is soot. Indeed, as the American Lung Association points out:
Soot is an old name for particle pollution.
So President Obama's science advisor, Dr. Holdren, is now saying that we might need to use soot to stop runway global warming.
(Soot in the upper atmosphere can reflect sunlight and cool
temperatures, but soot on the surface of ice helps warm and melt the
ice by absorbing sunlight).
What's Wrong with That?
What's wrong with that?
Well, soot is a major cause of ice warming and melting in the Arctic and in the Himalayas.
And as NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies has shown, soot in the upper atmosphere ends up on the surface of ice sheets and glaciers, such as Arctic ice cap:
South Asia is estimated to have the largest industrial soot emissions in the world, and the meteorology in that region readily sweeps pollution into the upper atmosphere where it is easily transported to the North Pole.
I
don't know whether Dr. Holdren was one of the scientists recommending
using soot to melt the ice cap in the 1970s, but the fact that he would
even consider shooting soot into the upper atmosphere now to cool the planet is very troubling.
If
scientists had convinced policy-makers to pour soot over the Arctic ice
cap in the 1970s, we might have had real problems. If scientists
convince them to shoot soot into the upper atmosphere now, we might get
the exact same end-game.
First, Do No Harm
I have previously pointed out numerous decisions regarding the environment which have caused more harm than good, such as the government forcing a switch from one type of chemical to a chemical which turned out to be 4,470 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.
Here's another one. The mongoose
was introduced to Hawaii in order to control the rats (which were
eating the sugar cane used to make rum). It didn't work out very well -
mongeese are daylight-loving creatures while rats are nocturnal - and
the mongeese trashed the native species in Hawaii.
My whole point is that we should make sure that our actions do not cause more harm than good.
Note 1: I have an extensive
background working to preserve natural areas and reduce urban
pollution. Indeed, my environmental resumé is as good as just about
anyone's. I studied environmental science at a top university in the
early 1980's.
Note 2: I
not only do not receive a penny from oil or any other energy, industry
or political person or organization of any nature whatsoever (I make a
few peanuts from ads on this site, which I do not choose, but are
selected without my input by my ad service), I am also wholly and
completely against big oil, big coal and big nuclear. As I have
repeatedly argued, power should be taken away from the oil giants and
decentralized. I have repeatedly argued for microgeneration and for
alternative energy. These things are beneficial for a number of reasons
- including better health, less corruption of our political systems
through decentralization of power, and a boost to our economy - in
addition to whatever climate benefits they may have.
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The human race has all but forgotten the real demon here. Over population. Address that and all the little green problems fall into line...
ah the lysenkoism of the political left chirps loudly in the science labs....soot for what ails you? forsooth....
simon bar sinister serves barry soetoro - a bunch of tribal jungle witch doctors conjuring up a spell untroubled by the discipline of science....
i remember the global cooling hysteria which was followed quickly by the global warming hysteria - inventions of demented pygymy mind...
when you can control the sun and the seas you might be able to control the planet's temperature - maybe....in the mean time it is in the lord's hands who created it all...
Earth and it’s inhabitants need more, not less, CO2.
More CO2 means:
* More Plant Growth
* Plants need less water
* More food per acre
* More robust habitats and ecosystems
CO2 is Earth’s greatest airborne fertilizer. Without it – No Life On Earth!
www(dot)co2isgreen.org
www(dot)plantsneedco2.org
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Global warming or global governance?
- -Interviews of climate scientists and biologists from numerous sources who explain, step by step, why Al Gore and the global warming alarmists are incorrect. In some cases, blatantly so. It also provides evidence that the global warming agenda is being funded with tens of billions of dollars as a mechanism to create global governance. Hear from congressmen, experts and even well-known news broadcasters how global governance puts global institutions that are not accountable to the American people in control of every aspect of our economy. The U.S. government is very close to making this a reality.- -
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3069943905833454241
or
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4860344067427439443
www(dot)globalwarmingglobalgovernance.com
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Lord Christopher Monckton, former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher says UN-climate Treaty when ratified will create A WORLD GOVERNMENT
youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0
Short part of the presentation:
youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40
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*****CLIMATEGATE – EXAMPLES OF FRAUD*****
nocapandtrade.com/climategate
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thanks for those co2 sites. this is an interesting link i found there which alludes to post above yours:
Elevated Carbon Dioxide Levels May Mitigate Losses of Biodiversity from Nitrogen Pollutionhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091203141903.htm
from being around some serious greenturds, what i realize is that they desperately need something to rally around. the evil genius of the algorey crew is that he gave that to them on an easy-to-digest carbon platter. sites like the ones above are a great effort at deprogramming as they repurpose the argument in a green coating (ju-jitsu 101). what even would be more effective would be to shift the argument towards a more nuanced understanding of the bio-cycle and what is really causing environmental imbalances.
It all makes sense now! Pollute the atmosphere to save the planet and flood the banks with borrowed money to save the economy.
Copenhagen. The World Watermelon Fund must be so depressed. The Big Green Extortion Machine just couldn't scare up any serious cash for them. Not even with troops of greenshirts protesting for the media and Al Gore and Prince Charles telling scary stories. The elephant in the room was Climategate, and it isn't going away.
On the bright side, they decided to put a cap on global temperatures. Maybe next year they'll adjust gravity. Just imagine the energy efficiencies!
Pollutants emitted from thermal power plants depend largely upon the fuel burned-the furnace design- the excess air and any additional devices used to reduce emissions--everyone knows that the hunger for power usage is growing in geometrical proportions while governments fumble around trying figure out how to outwit the SPM-suspended particulate matter-made up of C-H2-N2-S. The folks at this conference(I'm referencing politico's) do not even know what the oxides of NOx are let alone how to fire up a barbecue-if they did they would know that as a percentage in coal combustion NO is larger than C and S. Hell I forgot that they just saved the world from economic collapse and will now save ALL of us from SPONTANEOUS HUMAN COMBUSTION---run forrest run.
What a bunch of morons
Global cooling proposals use sulfate aerosols, not soot. Sure, if you get thick enough clouds of soot that they blot out the sun, you'll get cooling, but that's not the idea.
So what you're telling me is these parasites spent taxpayer money and wasted tons of fossil fuels to party down on hash brownies in the red light district, and came up with exactly squat.
Even if they did "solve" the climate change puzzle, these are the people who think more debt will cure our debt problem. Fear the solution more than the problem.
What is wrong with a good old fashioned politician beating no matter who it is? In fact where is the love for a third party and what would it look like?
I think in two years when Mexico stops exporting oil we will no longer hear about climate issues. The loss of a major crude exporter will signal the end of the oil age as we know it. We really need to start thorium reactor research yesterday!
Umm, they scorched the sky in the Matrix. Look how well that worked out.
At just what point did this whole thing get hijacked into a 'Let's All Hate Obama Fest'? I thought the subject was Copenhagen & the negotiations.
As in insurance care, so shall it be in polluter care: No leadership! Obama is simply a pile of stinking oafal, a collection of applause lines linked with the operant principle, let someone else - the Congress, foreign countries - provide the particulars. The man is a disaster and will likely wind up classed with the Warren Hardings and the Millard Filmores by historians. He is absolutely pertrified about committing to anything, forever hedging his bets, the quintessential male of this era, effeminized, frightened, bulked-up. God help us.
The murderous Dr. Holdren fits in nicely with the murderous Dr. Emmanuel and his ilk.
If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please send some of that global warming over to my neck of the woods here in the northeast.
Thanks a bunch!
I say we just relax about the earth's climate. If it warms up, and we have anything to do with it, then we are doing the right thing. Warmth is our friend, cold our enemy.
We are far more likely to face a frosty future than a hot one given the propensity of this earth to have volcanic eruptions on a grand scale every few thousand years. Add to that the simple fact that a cursory glance at the globe will
reveal that a disproportionate amount of the earth's dry land lies in colder latitudes,any loss of coastal habitat will be more than compensated for by pushing the tree line
further north IF the earth were to warm a few degrees.
The solution to pollution is.....
shooting soot into the atmosphere.
Dr. Holdren
Is Dr. Holdren tied to the Cabbots?
Obama spent just a couple hours at the climate meeting so he could go somewhere else afterwards. Where was that? There are lots of tasty blonde babes in Copenhagen who would die to have sex with a black man like Barack. Besides, he is tiring of Michelle. Been talking to Tiger, I guess.
#169612 Get your facts straight.
One of the largest most powerful law firms recruited Obama and offered him a job after he clerked for them as an intern. The firm is Sidley & Austin. He met his wife at the firm.
The President is smart, certainly smarter then you seem. The key point to know for your grand paranoid theory is that Sidley represents Exelon Energy. Yes, the energy firm with the USA's largest nuclear reactor fleet. Guess who would make out like a bandit in a Cap & Trade or straight carbon tax situation since nuke plants are zero emissions. But what do I know? Enough to make Exelon 5% of my holdings.
Arthur, I'm afraid America isn't going to make any new headway on a nuclear future until Obama is out of office. One of the biggest issues regarding nuclear power is how to store the spent nuclear rods. Obama is clearly opposed to storing the waste at Yucca mountain, but more importantly it was the Obama energy department that reversed US involvement in the global nuclear energy partnership that was put forward by the Bush administration to see spent nuclear fuel reprocessed in a way that renders the plutonium in it usable for nuclear fuel but not for nuclear weapons. Ironic in that Obama has just agreed with Russia to mutually eliminate more nuclear weapons which will need storage. Obviously, any pursuit of reprocessing of weapons or spent nuclear rods might undermine the issue of what to do with nuclear waste, thus screwing up their desire for a nuclear energy free America.
the scare was to hide it so terrorists wouldnt get the spent rods - they can get the real shit now so the spent stuff is just recycled now
We need to be aware that this vertical integration process of the global economic and political systems will be continued by means of stealth. They will attempt to implement the control systems through the various bureaucracies in the different countries. Having agreement or democratic approval is not an important part of the overall strategy for global tyranny under terms dictated by private equity.
The oil cartel and the zombie banks are deeply implicated in this fraud against the world. Anyone who goes through an airport can see that it is gangsters like BP and Shell that are pushing carbon this and carbon that. Global warming was just a convenient hysteria for the oligarchy to push against the population in order to stampede well meaning people into surrendering their economic and poltical rights.
the warmest snowjob I've ever seen
what a waste of time
Amazing! The one pollutant known to have significant health effects is soot. So... let's shoot bazillion tons of it into the atmosphere.
Have any of these clowns been in New Delhi or Bangkok?
The "Asthma Solution?" LOL
rest assured, whatever SOLUTION they come up with, it will reduce the world population, not save it.
And this isn't a solution ... how?
Ah Dr. Holdren you lovable scamp! When he's not busy talking about how to murder and sterilize people he talks about geo-engineering. To bad he can't make up his mind on what the planet will do, but never fear geo-engineering is the answer! Party on you genocidal madman!
Obama went to Copenhagen with his little band of crooks and liars. The premise was to secure the Olympics. He got bitch slapped and sent home.
Are you really surprised that it just happened again?
Come on G.W. here's one for you.
Ever wonder why his Harvard records are sealed?
He couldn't become president of the law review on his own merits so he pulled the race card. He did it in such an ugly way. That upon graduation no major law firm in the whole country would hire him. He wound up in a little firm in Chicago that represented Acorn. He's a loser and has surrounded himself with losers.Just like himself. All like minded people willing to pat him on the head and tell him how great he is. He is still trying to get back what he thinks he lost, the day his father left him in that airport. It's what losers do.
You are right on. Obama is just like Clinton in many ways. Neither had a real father so they have grown up flawed with the deep-seated need to be wanted, approved of. Both their mothers were basically loose women, maybe even whores.
and bush's dad was a president - that sure made him solid
If you have any evidence to support your assertions about why Obama's records are sealed , I wish you would share it. Bald assertion unsupported by any evidence may indulge your hatred for the President, but hardly advances any point you might be trying to make.
All of his records have been made unavailable; unprecedented in US history. Common law states that negative inferences can and should be drawn from a party's refusal to produce produce records or documents within its control.
Kenya!
You're from Kenya!
There is no good reason for any records to be sealed. Where is President Transparency? He is a loser.
Ask the banks he sued for Acorn. Obama is a race pimp just like Sharpton and Jackson. He is doing a good enough job of hating himself without my help.
I'm shocked! You apparently have no evidence.
I'm shocked! You apparently have no evidence.