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US Defense Secretary Gates Sending Hundreds Of Marines, Two Amphibious Ships To Libya
Update: Canada has now sent a warship to Libya as well.
Here we go:
Gates said 400 Marines are aboard amphib Kearsarge (as we predicted yesterday), which is headed towards Libya w/other ships. Notes UN has not authorized use of force.
And to those who think the good Colonel will leave his oil in the hands of the infidels, we suggest you short Brent now.
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Wow. I thought it would take a little longer for this to happen.....
the military industrial complex is hungry.
Wish we could just drill domestically, maybe the MIC could carpet bomb caribou and "liberate" eskimos of their oil in Alaska. First we would need a false flag attack from an eskimo terror cell i guess.
Oh yeah, the USA MIL complex helping to spread peace and democracy.... one drone missle attack and boots on the ground invasion killing innocent citizens at a time.
A Message from Libya
OT: Notice how the real culprits aren't even mentioned as suspects.
+1000
You can't have it any clearer than that!
Economic terrorism makes sense, if not, how would you explain doing the same things to get out of this mess as you did to get into this mess. They obviously have no idea what's gone wrong. They think you can just print more money and they'll break free... by putting us all in debt.
Maybe they've latched onto something big and juicy, the American Sheeple.china sending 4 military ships to libya.........
http://nakedempire.wordpress.com/
look, at this point in the game will all eyes wide shut we are all about image. A chickenshit drone strike on the Libyian Nutbag would look as the ultimate cheap shot. No way "we" are like they are, Mommar is getting his "American Style". Goint to recruit some more mercs in the process and cap more ME oil as well.
CIA behind Libya uprising for OIL?
http://nakedempire.wordpress.com/
Maybe everything that is happening is exactly what was intended to happen. Was one of the goals of Ben's printing to secure more ME oil for TPTB? Was it the only goal? If that's the case, is Saudia Arabia next?
Amazingly, the USA is the #3 producer of oil, and yet does not even make the list of top 20 exporters. Libya is #17 producer, for the record. If the USA is the third biggest producer, and one of the biggest importers, AND fools are still screaming "drill baby drill" there is something wrong. Personally, I think it is on the demand side--we require far too much of this stuff. Seeking control and stability of this intoxicating resource will be the indirect downfall of the Empire.
The US Military alone uses about 400,000 barrels a day of oil, the largest single user in the world and about 5% of US daily domestic production. We produce about 8M bpd and consume about 20M bpd and import about 30% of the total Net world exports of oil. A oil import ban in the US would overnight solve peak oil (from a supply perspective) and probably collapse the oil export price. Just this action alone (regardless of the impact in the US) would extend known global reserves by about 300%. So it truly is a demand side problem, US demand that is.
And guess who supplies the vast majority of it? Hmmmm:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2012281543_oilmilitary05.html
F**k Yeah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
"Wish we could just drill domestically"...you mean you wish we hadn't already burned up most of our easy oil? Silly boy.
America on an oil map looks like a acupuncturist's chart after a 5 day meth binge...
I hear Blythe's lower intestine is rich in oil reserves, thats the first place I'd want to drill domestically.
y use ours when Canada is giving it away?
precisely.
Heh, Alberta's premier 'rolled back' one of the most 'competitive' (read:cheapest) royalty regimes in the world, so as not to 'discourage' the oil companies from tearing apart their north and literally draining their rivers to extract the stuff, I guess because it's so easy to find... the best part is they ship most of it south raw, where it gets refined, and then sold back to them at a premium, effing win-win for the US; eg. the most expensive place to buy gasoline in Alberta is the city that is about 15 miles from where they pull it out of the ground.
Nope, not the sharpest knives in the drawer subsisting up there! Even the saudi's take a bigger piece of the pie.
Alberta...the only place in the universe that never, ever votes for anyone other than 'conservatives' (who are actually Republicanucks). Hey, when you keep giving it away each and every election, you're bound to get abused. And their answer is to vote even further to the right (the Wild Rose Alliance, backed by Big Oil and ready to reduce royalties even more)...they clearly don't understand the power of voting in a minority alternative for just one term.
++
"SURPRISE COCKFUCK!" I got--retired...for saying that once. Apparently "repeating it" isn't a good defense either.
From The Report from Iron Mountain:
It is interesting to note that Wikipedia currently refers to the Iron Mountain report as "satire", although a freedom fighter has for the moment managed to slip in a subversive "not":
And they live by this today...
"A little longer" in this day and age is 72 hours.
Time is about up.
Uh oh, not another 'police action'. And if the Marines go in, let's hope they treat Colonel Q. with the respect due to an officer, hehe.
But since the Marines are not unfamiliar with Libya, here's the first verse to a little song:
From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/citi-euros-surprising-resilience-and-why-these-brices-we-are-not-buyers#comment-997440
Except that Tripoli reference was about early 19th century piracy, of which there is a lot going on right now along the horn of Africa, out of the imaginary entity called "Somalia". We're not doing shit about that.
pirates wouldn't be pirates if they still had fish left in their ocean, industrial trawled to oblivion by the EU, they'd be fishermen.
OK, riddle me this. Two hundred years ago, grosso modo, everyone in most places was engaged in some sort of animal husbandry or agriculture. Now that isn't the case anymore, and yet the majority of people on the planet are not engaged in any sort of armed robbery or hostage taking. Not by a long shot. The pirates in question are not victims so much of environmental depletion as of a virus inhabiting their minds: Islam and/or their culture makes them unproductive and unable to adapt.
Yep, they are engaged in dumping toxic garbage and pushing out the others from their fishing seas. You cant do both: this or piracy.
Decades of drought certainly do not help matters, do they?
So we send in the terrorist marines to kill another 1or 2 million people like we have in Iraq what is wrong with you people !, well I guess if you are stupid enough to join the marines and go die for some corperate oil company then fuck um
because two wars just aren't enough....
Bill Hicks:
"There never was a war... a war is when two armies are fighting."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcM01akD0SA#at=70
Most of these libyans are just kids. Let them figure it out.
I'm sure they won't be thrilled to see us troops arrive.
Depends on whose side the marines are on. If I was a student in Libya and getting bombed and blasted by mercs and the marines was going to fight on "my" side, back the boat up here.!! "the assholes are over there, Charge">>>>>
Hate to be a cynic, but I'm pretty sure their main goal will be securing oil.
If this was Saudi Arabia, they'd have gotten many more troops. If I were Khadafi, I would be insulted that my oil is worth only 400 marines.
That being said, If I were Khadafi, my own parents would have killed me long ago.
Interesting angle there. I'd never read anywhere that oil had to do with anything.
I'll see your cynicism and raise it: This has little to do with oil and plenty to do with Israel. 400 Marines makes them an easy target and one dead Marine will mean thousands more will come.
It's not so much about Libya as it is about placing troops at the doorstep of Egypt. That's what Israel wants...and this is America...what Israel wants...Israel gets.
Look at a map...think of it as a chess game.
Why does Israel want Egypt? Limited oil production and a large population of people that hate you?
edit: "Why does Israel want Egypt?"
http://www.arrivals.technocrazed.com/episode-7-pharaohs-of-today
(deleted because the link above works again)
Because in the past Israel had in Egypt a large group of people that hated them ruled by a dictator that was very subservient to Israels desires and now...that dictator is out and Israel needs to find a way to regain control over a population that hates them...And mind you...it's not as if that populations does not have a good and justifiable reason to hate Israel.
But this is not a battle Israel will engage in. Why should they?...that's what American blood and treasure is for...to be squandered for the only apartheid regime in the world.
And what is that reason the people of Egypt have to hate Israel? Is it Israel seizing a buffer of desert that no one occupied after Egypt attached them several decades ago? I could be wrong but the Egyptians have had about 30 years of peace not sure I would be looking to toss that away myself. I'm not saying they didn't need a regime change, just saying as a people I don't think they want to start a fight anywhere.
"And what is that reason the people of Egypt have to hate Israel?"
Really? I mean...Is this really a question or are you just fuckin with me?
That's not an answer? I call bullshit on you there sir. How is what they have done any worse than the Europeans did to the Africans? Or the British to the Indians, or the Chinese to the Koreans, or the Europeans to the Native Americans or any fucking number of societies done to one another? I'm not defending it but God almighty lets lay some equal blame. Using your reasoning Israel should still be looking for a way to Nuke Germany to hell, and Germany should be plotting Moscows fall any day.
because neither Libya nor Egypt nor Jordan nor Palestine nor America is Israels to rule...yet they behave as though it was and whenever someone speaks out against such a condition they are labeled an "anti-semite" for that is the only defense they have left...a useless one.
I really can't figure out where your "equal blame" argument comes from when it is indisputable historical fact that Israel has invaded every county that surrounds them...while they have themselves never been invaded yet they are somehow always perceived as the victim.
And this thread is getting too this for this conversation to go much further.....
What I am saying is that every country with the ability has invaded its neighbors throughout the history of this world, it's never right but it's not like Israel is the first or worst transgressor. As for your indisputable historical fact, they were invaded in the Yom Kippor war and the 6 day war was a preemptive strike when Jordan, Syria and Egypt sent massive numbers of troops to their borders. As for victims, sorry I don't buy that concept for anyone over the age of 18, we are all big boys and girls, you choose your role, so don't take my comments as feeling sorry for Israelis I don't, just like I don't feel sorry for Palestinians, or Libyans, or Jordanians or Egyptians or Iraqi's. Anyways, let's agree to disagree alright.
My link answers everything, in case you didn't notice it.
Try imagining what it is like to be a Muslim in Egypt, instead of using tired white male memes.
It's probably very much like being a poor peasant in Ireland in the 1700's or a scared German citizen in the mid 1930's or a Native American losing all freedoms they had previously known when they were invaded, it also could be a lot like being a Mongolian in the days before Genghis Khan when the Chinese lorded over them. I appreciate your views but I'm not going to 100% on anybody's side here. I pretty much always state, all parties are partially guilty on just about any issue these days. It's time we stop placing blame quit looking for retribution and try to solve problems.
keep kickin-you're so culturally insensitive, bringing all of these other <non-preferred> groups into the discussion!
</sarc>
Then there's that small tribe of the lost tribe getting kicked out...that was probably Egypt to, and now it's payback time.
I don't feel sorry for anyone because feeling sorry for someone is condescending. But I do have empathy for some and no empathy for others..That said...I agree to disagree. Also, despite our disagreement...I appreciate your manner of presenting your side of the argument. You are civil and smart.
Same here, I appreciate a civil conversation.
Japanese to the Koreans, or the US citizens to the Native Americans... This is corrected.
Whoever junked you is a piece of shit.
One captured Marine will mean thousands more will come ;)
You probably haven't chatted with a Marine lately. They are kind of aware of the whole Beirut bombing thing, and how not to do that again.
TBT: You got it in one.
Paul Kelley inspected the barracks, pronounced them "all good."
Smilin' Paul forgot the old adages: "if you don't need an armed Marine on guard, then you don't need a Marine." Paraphrased from the lore. So the guards 'on duty' were not permitted to have mags in their rifles, nay round in chamber. But cf.
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/mailguards.html
I love the ROE here, e.g. "3. Pistols may be carried loaded, cocked and locked. The holster should be fastened to the leg and the flap tucked or tied back, so as not to interfere with drawing."
of course, these were M1911 pistols.
- Ned
Well there is another way of looking at the situation , Lybia population 6.5 million and pissed off , Marines welcome to the meat grinder
Reporting from AlJazeera qoutes high-level Libyan military defectors as saying all they want is a no-fly zone, with regime forces no longer in control of the skies the anti-regime forces can sweep Gadaffi into the Mediterranean Sea.
With luck, that is exactly what the Kearsarge and company will give them: Clear skies.
A no fly zone over Libya could be maintained with one U.S. fighterbomber. One.
And if it were a stealth fighter flying N.O.E. they would never know what hit them.
Ohh...
that could be something they could do with their ONE production F-35.
Woo-Hoo
What the fuck is wrong with you? Do you think you're John fucking Wayne?
"More war! More war!"
why don't you get yourself a flight to the ME and join these bullshit revolutions, maybe if you're nice to the MI6 editor of AlJazeera he'll let you suck his dick.
Ain't it a bitch that someone like Bill Hicks dies so young and someone like David Rockefeller lives to be as old as Gollum?...It just ain't right.
because two wars just aren't enough....
Sure, the country is in great shape financially. Why not burn some more money? :)
The decision tree must have showed them the doom that would befall us if the oil spigot shuts down. lol
Why exactly is WAR good for the MIC right now when oil is rocketing, dollar is dying, military spread too thin. How can this possibly benefit the U.S. hegemony, or is that the point, aiming a missile at your face threatening you to stay in our lame dollar system?
Or overthrow our current puppets who now all of the sudden do not want to play along and install new puppets?
AZS:
t'were always so. Answer=Inertia/current social contract.
Don'tcha' know.
- Ned
Life may not repeat, but it sure does rhyme.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marines'_Hymn
Gates is doing this??????
Does that mean that Obummer has resigned and is running for the border?
Happy Happy Joy Joy!
This will be Gates and Clinton out in front..you will hear very little from the Obama......one ..he knows nothing about this and what to do...and two...he is scared to death to say or do anything...the guy votes present...never takes a side...hes a pussy
here, here, right on!
That is the best thing I have read all week hell maybe all of 2011.
[the guy[[Obama]] votes present...never takes a side...]---youngman
Good post.
I agree. If you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything.
Principles? Progressives don't need no stinkin' principles!
You don't get it. Skynet has taken control of the TOTUS, and TOTUS told Gates what to do.
are you really so delusional as to believe that whomever is in office make even the remotest bit of difference?
if so...then this ones for you:
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter"
Winston Churchill
["The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter"-Winston Churchill]---alien-IQ
Did Churchill actually say that? That is fantastic! Think I'll have a cigar in his honor.
- Winston Churchill
IOLDK Bitches!!!
That was quick. With Marines will come air support from Enterprise and Kersage.
captain kirk and the klingon vessel!
Ha! +1
More likely air support, and the assets to enforce the "no fly zone" of UN chatter, will come from NATO airbases in Italy. Note that Italy just cancelled its "friendship" treaty with the Gadhafi regime, noting that the regime no longer exists.
And anyway Libyan air assets could be kept down by a single patrolling US fighterplane with a little Hawkeye support.
And Afghan farmers with homemade guns are no match for the mighty US army, funny how things work out in real life... really REALLY funny.
USS Enterprise is not in the Med. Air support would be from USS Kearsarge and NATO bases in Europe.
Not saying you're wrong but what about:
Enterprise is in the Red Sea, not the Mediterranean. In the couple hours since I wrote that the news is saying Enterprise is heading back north, but only Kearsarge is actually scheduled to pass thru the Suez. Enterprise could conceivably support operations by overflying Egypt if it takes station in the northern Red Sea. So ok...maybe I'm wrong.
2012 hearings:
Mr Benwackme, why didn't you stop the bubble in oil.
Ben: we only started the speculative juices, how we're we to know it would go to $400 per barrel.
This wasn't supposed to happen until 2012.
No, that's when the end of the day comes to Western world.
First though, the sun has to rise in the East.
The way things are going, one day soon the "sun" will be rising at all points of the compass within a few seconds of each other.
Well, we're done then, the Sun rose in the East here this morning ... looks like it may be sitting in the West ...
This must be bullish.
Or bullshit?
I thought the oil producing/exporting areas were under rebel control? Does he even hve the ability to bomb the pipelines or ports?
Yep, they are there to secure the oil facilities, ie, to make sure Muammar doesn't blow them up.
This public announcement means the Navy Seals are already there. These guys are reinforcements.
Go for it.
I used to date a Navy Seal until he told me a story about taking Young Vietnamese women up in helicopters and throwing them out. I can't, of course vouch for the veracity, but I believed him.
John Kerry used to carry around a green beret's hat in his briefcase, and carry on about having taken a spec ops guy up beyond the border one Christmas. And this guy is a US Senator, albeit from taxachussets.
Is your point that a US Senator couldn't possibly be a total cunt? Or are you saying murdering innocent people for money is a good inroad into US politics?
Indeed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
This should end well.
Can't they work it out?
Will USA have to rebuild this shit hole?
No.
Yes.
Yes - Libyans can work it out by killing KaDaffy.
No - we shouldn't give a damn. Even if we could afford to "rebuild" Libya, why would we?
"have to" is a strong word. And "rebuild" doesn't apply to Libya. I mean, what is there worth building in the first place? Help me out here.
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It's over 90% desert. How hard can it be?
easy as head from lewinski, is y we are sending only 400. walk through the park and call it a day.
The US will milk Lybia till its dry.
The USA has never ever left any
invaded country in good condition.
Desert vitrification, bitchez!
Let it burn, let it burn and let it burn.
Silly! Sand is already oxidized. SiO2, duh. You can melt it though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5jK0biu7lI
written last year, released on mid Feb 2011. . .
PJ Harvey, prescient.
I saw some quote of a Libyan rebel saying that they did not need or want outside "help".
The Libyan rebels do not want help. They do not need help. A military intervention without a Security Council resolution constitutes regieme change and is therefore an "illegal war."
France has stated it would not support the required resolution. Russia and China would also likely veto it.
Why would the west intervene?
Because the 1,001 Princes in Saudi Arabia are scared shitless. They cannot have their populations watching a real-life television playbook on how to overthrow an autocratic regieme.
I suspect they have rattled Obummer's cage by moving some tanks around with the backstory of "You do something or we will be forced to act."
If it is not the Israelis dictating US foreign policy it is the Saudi's. So the US will do something.
What it will do will ignite a further expansion of the conflict, will lend legitimacy to the radical fringe. Libya will become a much worse conflict than it is and that part of the Arab world that does not already hate the west will learn to do so.
The 1,001 Saudi Princes will fly about in their 747's, pump their oil and breathe a sigh of relief.
If this were WWI we would be at the Sarajevo moment. The Archduke is about to be killed and from there the world spins into out of control absolute madness.
So what do you think they'll use for the new Lusiftania? Or was that 9/11?
I would be tempted to suggest that the kicker will be some variation on the Zimmerman telegram but I hesitate to make such a statement as the subsequent junking would likely render ZH incapacitated. I don't need to get all the TDs mad at me too so I will say nothing.
Wikileaks has already got that covered...
Agreed on all points
The trigger this time will be some news from Tripoli about mass civilian executions. It need not even be fabricated, I'm sure they are happening every day. But that will be the humanitarian impulse to move in.
Don't worry. Obummer will only go for the U.N. moving in, in the case of humanitarian atrocities, and such action will as a rule make the atrocities worse.
The marines are there only to make it safe for the U.N. troops to move in and secure Tripoli
Which is hilarious.
RP, who are so-called "UN Troops?"
Not the rapists that we pay for, one hopes. Maybe that is why Moon was so pale today?
- Ned
"Why would the west intervene?"
Libya just happens to have the largest known oil reserves in all of Africa and the 9th largest in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Libya
Thanks for putting the words illegal and war between scare quotes like that. I have to mop off my screen and keyboard everytime I read stuff like "illegal war" or "international law". It is just hilarious. Every time.
I am sure you are also laughing at a succession of Presidents and Congress that fail to recognize the Constitution, A Justice Dept, SEC and other regulatory bodies that both disrespect the law and fail to enforce it, and an entire financial sector that makes up the law as it goes along and pays itself bonus money from of public funds; taken together this group of "criminals" is cornholing the citizens of America, a group that seemingly think it "hilarious," "Every time" and drool on their keyboards in stupor.
The Libyans, on the other hand, have made a decision to live free or die. That means free of K_Daffy, the MEF, and whatever other nightmare Obummer dreams up. Keep drooling.
"The Libyans, on the other hand, have made a decision to live free or die."
I was kind of with you, but on that one, I had to clean off my screen. The "Libyans" are North Africans, Arabs. Freedom ain't on their minds.
As to the violation of US law, inside the US, that is a very big fucking deal to me. Don't get me wrong. "International law" on the other hand, well don't get me started...
on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:37
#1008609
The Libyan rebels do not want help. They do not need help. A military intervention without a Security Council resolution constitutes regieme change and is therefore an "illegal war."
France has stated it would not support the required resolution. Russia and China would also likely veto it.
Why would the west intervene?
Because the 1,001 Princes in Saudi Arabia are scared shitless. They cannot have their populations watching a real-life television playbook on how to overthrow an autocratic regieme.
I suspect they have rattled Obummer's cage by moving some tanks around with the backstory of "You do something or we will be forced to act."
I SECOND THIS 100 percent !!!!
Its a day light robbery of a nation.
They did it in Iraq and now its Lybia.
The US military is used for ransacking
other natons wealth.I pity the Lybians
Now its to arm both sides and send them to play
to play in the desert while the suck
away the oil.
Pillage bitchez!
YAAAARRRRRR!!!
This time its different. What the 1001 Saudi Princes just learned recently is that TPTB will freeze their foreign assets at will. They just re-learned that their power is the black gold under their feet. They're pissed, oil is going to skyrocket.. or trade for gold..
US and the EU are fucked.
The EU, yes. The US, not necessarily. Demography, my friends. The europeons have voted with their condoms, birth control, and abortions, to collapse. They made this choice long ago and the momentum has set in long ago. They're pretty fucked.
Oh for crying out fucking loud for the millionth time who gives two shits if the UN says it's ok or not?? Why should we leave decisions in the hands of a bunch of third world dumbfucks??? Fuck the UN and all the spineless pussies who think we need their approval.
@Sushi
+100
Absolutely Correct. You couldn't be more correct if you painted a tick on your forehead. Looking at the diplomatic traffic, there is no way the Security Council will even agree to a No Fly Zone, let alone a war.
good points sushi, I would only add, for clarity, that those who run the show see no "national" boundaries, which are always arbitrarily redrawn to position the populations at odds with each other over time, thus maintaining the un-stable populations, which will require heavy policing, forever. . . those who will begin this war will use the "fuck yeah!!" troops who signed up for WAR BABY, and can't wait to see it - the world's plunder happens at the behest of militarised nationals, and amrka has a massive military industrial complex to feed, with more corporations signed on to "rebuild" the fucked over land when they're done murdering.
these warships are in place for the grand finale, as per lindsey williams, for march 11th. the muslim brotherhood, as part of the day of rage in saudi arabia, will proclaim the take back of jerusalem! oil prices will sky rockert on that day! don't tell me all these warships are only to control libya! NOT!!!!
Indeed, Libya, both its armies and rebels, are just ridiculous as military forces.
Oh hell. This is just terrible.
So after 200 years the Marines get to land on the shores of Tripoli. They must be psyched like crazy mo'fo's. Well, more psyched than the usual crazy mo'fo's they are.
Though again I don't like to see our troops sent into foreign lands to prop up the TBTF economies like our own. It would better to have a generalized wind-down than all this sick regime manipulations crap.
That said, we can still hope the best for everyone on the ground (Marines and Libyans alike) at the shores of Tripoli.
SAMPER FI.....God bless them all
For crying out loud, you don t have anything better to say ? is your son going there ??? will your kid get killed to serve the masters purposes ????? For Christ sake, wake up !!
#1 - Oy vey; get your head out of your ass.
#2 - It's SEMPER, not SAMPER, dummy.
At least 200 years ago we had the excuse that we were killing pirates who were terrorizing our merchant ships. What's our excuse today? Oil? Nope, can't say that. Oh yes, helping "freedom" and "democracy" blah blah blah .... :/
Yeah it's discouraging. This kinda crap needs to stop. But I really don't know how the world will manage it. Simpler living all around I guess. Fewer needs --> fewer excusses --> less hostility.
One fine day ...
Uh, there's a problem, Irish. Now the pirates look and act just like Obama. Wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
Stupidly cynical. The USA did not colonize Libya after the Barbary pirates episode and won't do so now either. Please also note that all accusations to the contrary, the USA has not seized the oil fields in Iraq.
Stop assuming and watch what actually happens. If the Marines don't go ashore you might take a moment to consider how wrong you were.
Uhhh, yeah we did. We seized the whole country. Take a look at the list of corporations running the fields, and you will find they are all American, or subcontracting for Americans.
Are you going to think about how wrong you were when we occupy Libya? Probably not, since it is likely to take the form of a puppet government. A nice, convenient excuse not to think about the oppression the US applies around the world.