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Where Have All The Zero Hedge Veterans Gone, Long Time Passing?

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Where Have All The Zero Hedge Veterans Gone, Long Time Passing?

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Cognitive Dissonance

 

Imagine if you will for just a few moments that we reside within a small town in America or Europe or anywhere else in the world for that matter. The physical location isn’t important because we’re talking about a virtual world. Our community consists of several thousand residents of mixed race, creed and color and we are united mostly by our desire to hear and speak truth in a world nearly devoid of it. Many of us have been looking for exactly this type of safe haven for a very long time and can scarcely believe our eyes when we first stumble in from the wasteland.

In so many ways our little town is our cherished refuge from a world gone mad with corrupt central governments bent on exploitation and self destruction. Rarely does a day go by when we don’t leave our cozy homes to visit the town square and discuss the founder’s latest observations as well as the day’s news and events. Often we speculate on what’s coming round the bend and even catch up with a few old friends now and then. Home is where the heart is and for many of us home is Zero Hedge.

Most of our fellow residents are known to us by sight and nickname, but only a few do we know well enough that we would expose ourselves on a personal level and engage in a lengthy and sometimes deeply heartfelt conversation. Conversations I might add that are normally reserved only for those we truly trust in the “real” world. And yet amazingly these discussions are conducted out in the open and in full view of the world, virtual or otherwise.

But aside from these few friends the rest of the inhabitants living in our community are considered casual acquaintances or workplace friends, someone we know well enough to discuss local and national politics or even economics, but not much else. That doesn’t mean we don’t love our town and our neighbors because deep down we all share a special bond. We are all on the vanguard of truth speaking and for many of us this is a novel experience. On the surface we are very secretive yet surprisingly quite open. Zero Hedge is uniquely different by design.

 

Home is where the castle is.


 

Of course, there’s a very good reason why our community is constructed in this unusual manner. A shield of invisibility separates you and me from everyone else, a barricade of anonymity that was intentionally erected to provide a sense of safety and security for all, mainly because our community is surrounded by hostile and often unseen forces. The anonymity was and is designed to shield everyone in such a way as to enable frank and open conversations that would otherwise be stifled if conducted out in the open and among the antagonistic.

And for the most part the community’s design has been a rousing success, particularly for the founder Tyler Durden and the rest of the fight club core who regularly use the town square as a bully pulpit to speak truth to power. The group’s anonymity forces those who would attack Tyler in order to restrain or bury free speech by way of ad hominem smears and personality bashing to either ignore Tyler’s message or confront it using verifiable facts and logical argument.

In general the community has grown rapidly as both veterans, who were here when the first cornerstones were laid, and later arrivals cheer on the daily disclosures and running commentary. Speaking truth to power has never been so satisfying while still tinged with some inner fear. In some ways Zero Hedge has become our confidant, our mentor, our analyst and our sanity. Personally I consider it my own Radio Free Zero Hedge, a beacon shining bright during these increasingly dark nights.

But some of our veterans have been stealing off into the night with barely a whispered farewell or even a quick explanation for their disappearance. Unfortunately this is where the community’s anonymity works against us. Other than the few occasions where residents have willingly dropped their masks and now conduct private conversations outside the confines of the community, there is very little discourse among the residents other than what is conducted within the town square. Thus there is no effective way of discovering where all our missing veterans have gone.

 

Something's Missing

 

So in some respects our town is missing a part of its heart and soul, that intangible something that brings together divergent parts to create a living breathing community. While Tyler Durden is without question the voice and creator of Zero Hedge the activist and truth speaker, we the residents know remarkably little about our own community. Our town recently celebrated its two year anniversary and while there was much to cheer, I for one have been feeling for some time that something important is missing.

While every blog has its own personality and feel, over the course of time the readers generally get to know quite a bit about the blogs founder through editorials and conversation. The creator’s initially thin voice is slowly filled in with deeper tones and tenor and the body is fleshed out with substance and color. The voice becomes a personality, then for some it becomes a friend.

While Tyler renders an opinion within the text of nearly every one of his postings, his opinion is nearly always limited to the subject matter at hand and rarely do we get to glimpse even a snippet of Tyler the person. Most likely this is done because he wishes to remain totally anonymous and considering the explosive nature of some of his disclosures, I can’t say I blame him one iota. But this does leave a vacuum of sorts within the fabric of the community and so the herd will naturally seek its own substitute.

In contrarian communities such as ours where we’re all bucking the trend and swimming against the tide, there is often great emotion bubbling just beneath the surface. Our town isn’t just a financial blog; it’s a calling, a movement, an event, the place to go where contrarian views aren’t the exception but the norm. While Zero Hedge started out as an obscure hangout for financial nerds and wonks it quickly morphed into a place of inspiration and refuge. Along the way some of the residents have developed small followings or even minor cults, becoming community leaders plucked from the crowd by natural selection.

While some of these personalities are relatively new, several have been with Zero Hedge since the beginning. And many are now gone, missing in action, A.W.O.L. I don’t wish to imply that there’s skullduggery or grand mystery behind the disappearance of our veterans. After careful thought I think it’s something simpler, reasons that revolve around what Zero Hedge was and what it has now become. And ultimately something else that is well beyond the control or influence of this blog and which is beginning to spread within the general population.

While I’m in occasional email contact with two of the missing veterans, for the most part I have no direct knowledge of the reasons for their absence, only my supposition and gut instinct. Of the two I talk to on occasion, their reasons for leaving are obviously deeply personal and I won’t pry. But after recently flirting with the idea of leaving Zero Hedge myself, I believe I may have some insight into why some leave and come back while others leave and never look back. Let me try to explain what I think is happening.

 

Time Warp

 

At times it appears as if Zero Hedge resides within a time warp or rift. Tyler and company produce such a blinding stream of posts that often it’s difficult to remember what was discussed yesterday let along last week, month or year. Because of this linear rush of time, rarely do we sit back and consider what Zero Hedge was, only what it is now. This is one of the missing pieces I mentioned earlier, the critical element of perspective and history from the residents point of view that’s not part of the mix.

All communities have a sense of history and continuity which acts as a binding agent, tying the past to the present and which the residents take with them as they walk into the future. This is done with a combination of books, oral histories, community days and events, impromptu gatherings of friends over beers and so on. During times of community stress, it is this history as a group that is relied upon to sooth rattled nerves and smooth out life’s bumps and bruises.  

While there is most certainly a singleness of purpose and deed within Zero Hedge, it is primarily Tyler’s show along with the occasional penetrating contributor. For the community at large, we are mostly spectators and hanger-on’s with varied opinions and sharpened elbows. While many are satisfied with the Rugby style discourse, I sense in others a desire for a deeper connection, a more intimate and friendly environment, reminiscent of the old Zero Hedge town square when the veterans ruled the roost.

Many of our lost veterans provided breadth and depth to our conversations as well as a big picture perspective when shouting, hysteria or trolls threatened to overwhelm. While each had his or her unique idiosyncrasies and ideology, nearly all had a strong sense of ownership and protective custody. How many times did we hear a veteran declare “Don’t mess with Zero Hedge because if you do you’re messing with me”? Newbie’s that wandered in from the cold and immediately started whipping their shtick around were quickly slapped side the head and sent to the back of the bus for remedial education.

Like that strong willed but kind uncle who visited during the holidays and whose presence moved the room, our veterans were an important part of the internal control mechanism that all unorganized groups develop as a matter of instinct and survival. Natural leaders emerge and are respected not just for their inherent authority, but because of their common sense approach and fairness even to those they oppose. Thus form and function develops out of chaos and the community coalesces. What was once random noise and movement becomes coherent and comprehensible.

 

Tyler

 

While Tyler has always been the booming voice of Zeus bellowing from atop the Zero Hedge mount, Tyler for the most part is content to let his postings, opinions and biting tongue find their mark. But back when the veterans roamed the land there was another strong presence that is now sadly missing as well. Marla Singer was our Athena or Themis, the community’s Goddess of order, civility and decorum. At your own peril did you mess with Mother Nature for with the flick of her sharp tongue serial transgressors were quickly removed from The Hedge.

Marla wasn’t malevolent, vindictive or even egotistic, thought it was obvious we were dealing with an opinionated intellect that could swallow most of us whole in one single bite. What contributed to her presence and gave her natural authority was her capacity to be playful, self deprecating and wonderfully witty. Her late nights spinning tunes on Radio Zero or her presence in chat did more than anything else to build our budding community identity. None the less, after ample warnings and prods from her big stick, she didn’t suffer fools well and many repeat troublemakers were quickly kicked.

This was a stabilizing force that was the implicit bite behind the veterans bark and thus our small community continued to grow with vigor in part because the roads were swept clean at night. This doesn’t mean Zero Hedge stifled creative thought or energetic disagreement. On the contrary, because the residents knew that well reasoned and logical arguments would be fairly aired while disruptors and airheads would be muffled, Zero Hedge quickly became known as the place to come for thoughtful discourse and stimulating against-the-grain ideas. 

We sometimes forget how radical Zero Hedge was perceived as being back in the day. Early on in its development concepts such as manipulated precious metal markets, stealth Fed pumping or the Plunge Protection Team, all factual reality that had been tirelessly trumpeted for years by a small cadre of truth speakers, were laughed at outside the contrarian community as the ranting of the delusional.

Then Zero Hedge and other dedicated blogs and alternative media sites joined together in singing the song, adding their considerable weight and influence to these issues and pushing them to the front of the news cycle. What was formerly verboten is now accepted even by the mainstream media as a given and an integral part of the overall black matrix.

 

Chnage

 

So where have all the veterans gone, long time passing? Why would they leave when we’re beginning to lever open some locked doors and we’re breaking through the wall of lies? The most obvious reason is that the community has changed and, at least in the eyes of some of the veterans who have left, for the worse. There is little doubt that change has occurred though much of it is a function of growth and popularity and thus just a fact of life. If you’re selling something that’s in demand, in this case financial and political truth, you’re going to suffer growing pains as you scale up to fill the vacuum.

But the civility and camaraderie, the sense of ownership and protective custody that I talked about earlier, is now missing or at least greatly diminished. While Tyler specially and Zero Hedge in general have always told us that they have no obligation to moderate the comment section, the presence of Marla in the early days acted as a de facto moderator creating an artificial environment that as it turned out wasn’t sustained. As Marla slowly withdrew from active participation, civility and order withdrew as well to the point where today obvious and self described trolls and disruptors have taken up permanent residence within what was formerly considered safe territory.   

However I don’t think this alone was enough to disenfranchise all the missing veterans though I sure it was for some. There appears to be another more important and seldom discussed dynamic at play here that works hand in hand with the community changes and which the blog is not responsible for in the least. What is rarely discussed within the contrarian community in general and among the truth speakers in particular is a concept or phenomenon that I call truth speaker’s fatigue.

 

Utter Exhaustion

 

Similar to disaster charitable giving fatigue, truth speakers fatigue is at its core about lost hope and belief. The person afflicted often feels that after investing considerable emotional and intellectual capital, little or no headway has been made and the methods used appear to be useless. Since the initial effort was driven almost exclusively by emotional adrenaline and with little thought to specific strategy and measurable outcomes, it is easy to lose momentum after several perceived defeats, emphasis on perceived.

As I said earlier, many of us have been wandering the wilderness for years recognizing something was terribly wrong, but not knowing specifically what was wrong let alone how to deal with it. Suddenly we find Zero Hedge and are infused with a sense of hope and belief. We come to believe that because we are surrounded by like minded individuals and are stronger as a group we might finally be effective and become a force to be reckoned with. Maybe, just maybe we can really make a difference and slow down or even stop the insanity.

Becoming involved with speaking truth openly and repeatedly, particularly if it’s our first time, can be a powerful and intoxicating elixir which often leads to flights of unrealistic expectations and unreasonable goals. I speak as one of experience, having drunk heavily from the cup on a few occasions. One is infused with a sense of power and destiny after seeing that many of man’s problems can easily be rectified by clear thinking, honesty and awareness. What we fail to fully grasp early on is that we come by this knowledge via desperation and a sincere desire to stop our own internal pain and suffering.

While our intent is genuine and heartfelt, over time and after repeated disappointments that our disclosers are making little headway, we slowly come to the realization that not only are there many powerful forces trying to bury the truth, but that those who would most directly benefit from the truth, our fellow sufferers, are among the most difficult to shake awake. This is the cut that is the deepest of them all, the ugly realization that they simply aren’t ready to sever the ties that bind themselves to their own misery. 

Ties that Bind

 

This understanding is similar to waking one day and realizing deep within your soul that you married the person next to you for all the wrong reasons and that now it is over and never really was. Or that after many years of climbing the corporate ladder, you suddenly realize no happiness or fulfillment will ever be found where you just spent half your life working. Faced with the realization that little progress has been made in breaking through the never ending lies and finding themselves emotionally spent to boot, I suspect several veterans simply gave up and faded back into the black abyss.

Similar to the turmoil of a midlife crisis, a few may never recover from this devastating loss of faith and will wander aimlessly and without purpose, discarding first their career, then their family and finally themselves. Others try desperately to reinsert themselves back into the Matrix, swallowing again and again every blue pill within reach in a hopeless and ultimately futile quest for the blessed ability to just forget. Still others will sink into abject apathy as a form of emotional self protection.   

And then there are those who after much soul searching and anguished debate come to understand that the problem isn’t really out there but rather within. After two or three internal renegotiations and subsequent scaling back of expectations that always lead to additional failure, we come face to face with the second ugly truth, that it is our ego we are wrestling with, that we could not save even ourselves let alone the world.

It was our pain that led us to seek truth and it was our pain we wish removed by spreading the truth. While we expressed the desire to make the world better, it was ultimately for our own benefit that we wished it rebuilt. As with the unloved spouse or unfulfilled career, we were laboring for all the wrong reasons and thus futilely spinning our wheels.

 

Revelation

 

If this shocking revelation can be internalized and then accepted, only then do we begin the next phase of our journey of truth, one where the reason and intent for our action is now squarely aligned with our expectations. We now know that we are here only to work on ourselves. If by chance others happen by and grab onto the life raft we now occupy, this is a wonderful bonus but not by intent or design.

Now properly sized for the next leg of our journey and thoroughly busy digging deeper within, we discover one of the ultimately liberating truths. Whereas before when attempting to spread awareness and awakening, in the eyes of those still sleeping we appeared frightening and threatening. All we really had to offer was the opportunity for them to witness their own pain and suffering without the benefit of a numbing agent or self administered anesthesia, hardly an attractive package even when it is offered for free.

Now that we are engaged in traveling our own path of self centering and discovery, first of ourselves and then our place in the world, involuntarily and unconsciously we begin to exude strength and confidence. Suddenly we become an attractor, an example of what can be. Now we have substance to offer others which leads to greater happiness and inner peace. Since we are no longer forcing anything upon others, but instead we now own and wear what everyone else desires, now we are seen as valuable and attractive. This inner knowing cannot be taught or passed on, only found within and then tried on. 

If at this point we choose to pick back up the truth speaking baton we quickly find that we are vastly more effective. While the necessity to overcome the lies is still there, we no longer project a sense of urgency or even desperation that was present before and which the sleep walkers sensed both consciously and unconsciously. Whereas before we were perceived to be a threat to their apathy and feigned indifference now the sleep walker senses our inner calm and stability while hearing the same information as before.

With their internal barrier to what we are saying now softened or even withdrawn, we have a more receptive audience rather than defensive or even hostile. While this alone doesn’t mean they will actually awaken, it does mean the seed has been planted in a more fertile and hospitable environment. Just as you and I needed repeated exposure to the truth before we began to wake from the dream, so will they. But now the process has started and the bridge to awareness is at least in sight.

 

Misty Bridge 2

 

I don’t know if any of the missing veterans, or anyone else on Zero Hedge for that matter, has left under the circumstances I just described. But firsthand experience working with others in various truth movements, along with conversations with friends who are walking similar paths, tells me that I’m most likely close to the truth with at least a few. If we could question our missing veterans as to why they are no longer around, I suspect each would have specific reasons for their departures. And while on the surface I’m certain all their reasons may be valid, we all tell ourselves stories in order to bury the bitter and unspeakable truth.

Does any of what I have written ring true with you or can you indentify with any part of this essay? I read the comment section of Zero Hedge on a daily basis and from my perspective there are many residents who are walking wounded and who are depressed and in denial about it. I have come to understand that any pain I may be feeling is a loud and clear signal that something’s wrong and that I need to change direction. My pain is not to be avoided but rather respected for what it is, a message that I’m not sized right and that I need to refocus within.

Ultimately we are ineffective in any endeavor we may engage in and we might even be damaging to ourselves and those around us if we are in pain and in denial about our need for treatment. This would be all too obvious if our legs were broken, but for some reason it’s completely lost on us if we are spiritually broken. Ultimately in order to heal it doesn’t matter where you’ve been or where you are now. A wise man once told me that what’s important in life isn’t so much that you’re on the correct path, but rather if deep down inside you there’s a desire to be on the correct path. Once the student is ready, the teacher will always appear. The search for answers always begins within.

 

Cognitive Dissonance

01-24-2011

 

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Sun, 01/30/2011 - 01:21 | 917436 MilleniumJane
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Harry has fascinated me since day one.  I have never read anyone so steadfastly contrarian to the dominant theories of this site.  Psy-ops?  Or is Harry really Tyler playing devil's advocate to get our brain juices flowing?

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 23:22 | 901450 JohnG
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Someone, (I think akak but I can't swear to it), outed harry some months ago.

I've searched and searched for the comment and I cannot find it....too many comments.

Where is akak anyway....sigh.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:13 | 900534 hooligan2009
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ummm...say what you really mean please! (chuckle)

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:05 | 900487 nmewn
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Resonance.

"Similar to disaster charitable giving fatigue, truth speakers fatigue is at its core about lost hope and belief. The person afflicted often feels that after investing considerable emotional and intellectual capital, little or no headway has been made and the methods used appear to be useless. Since the initial effort was driven almost exclusively by emotional adrenaline and with little thought to specific strategy and measurable outcomes, it is easy to lose momentum after several perceived defeats, emphasis on perceived."

As a "recent" arrival I would think some of it is here, in what you say. When it's obvious the one with whom you're discussing a topic will not even attempt to see what is being pointed out, I find myself cursing instead of reasoning further with someone in order to make a salient point. Leo and myself was a recent example on his view of public sector pensions. Just today with another on a different topic.

There could also be bruised ego's involved, that cannot be discounted. Maybe the veterans didn't want their world views challenged in an ever changing world. It is not a static proposition, this world. Maybe they did change and are now back but under different names that are not familiar.

Hard to say.

What is good is what Tyler & staff has done here. Allowed even the most outlandish (some in my view, of course) things to be posted and stay posted. To be villified or verified in the public square.

Everyone has right to speak but they do not have a right to be believed. This is where the more knowledgeable posters on the topic at hand should step in, which is where I think you're at. This is good in my opinion.

It's the only way to do it I think. No Google search propping. No open source Wiki debasing tricks etc.

Though I didn't meet all the veterans, I think they would still approve of the concept still, if not the hand to hand fighting that sometimes comes with it. 

Myself, I think of change as being either good or bad, it's up to the one who runs the place to decide if this is what he wants, not you and I.

I'm a big fan of property rights ;-)

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:22 | 900567 JW n FL
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individual freedom? fuck you commie!

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:46 | 900671 nmewn
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Thanks for bringing the discourse up a notch or two ;-)

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:51 | 900688 JW n FL
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bringing it down, does elevate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRG1tWQN6e8&feature=

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 21:43 | 901118 Lord Koos
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Constantly posting youtube links because you are inarticulate isn't that elevated.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 22:40 | 901317 dark pools of soros
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it beats all those cat lolz

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 21:47 | 901138 JW n FL
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what view point of mine do you take issue with..

dont fucking bash and run under a rock you fucking coward... whatcha ya got?

other than a strictly personal attack you offer no real information...

so what ya got?

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 22:18 | 901240 hardcleareye
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JW, I think this is the type of posting that people describe as "noise"......? 

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 22:33 | 901288 RockyRacoon
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Hold it down, boys, I'm reading here....

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:05 | 900486 Flakmeister
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  Long time lurker (early 09), posted early on anonymously, registered for close to a year....

I have observed the following trend in the comments: noise to content increasing, increasingly "Beckian" views spewed out that are logically and philosophically bankrupt. A shift towards anti-semitism, on occasion blatant astro-turfing.

 I still continue to monitor the "news feed", but I pick and choose very carefully what I post on lest it become an effort in self-flagellation....

 

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 23:33 | 901484 Bringin It
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Hey you anti-semite.  The term is a cock-up to begin with.  Everyone's an anti-semite and anti-semites are everywhere, but no one knows what it means or if it ever meant anything.

Why not say anti-Jew if that's what your complaint is? 

Why the semantic gymnastics? 

To obscure the true identity of the true anti-semites? ... Maybe?

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 09:47 | 902209 Flakmeister
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  I don't even know why I am dignifying this with a response....but when I see "jewish bankers" and "zionist conspiracies" written with a venonous pen by commenters, I don't know what else to call it....

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 23:22 | 901449 chirobliss
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Agreed. And when you can only "Junk", junk is all you get. If I could look for fanned comments, I could perhaps read something that is worthwhile. I can't be bothered swimming neck deep in sh%^ looking for wisdom that, in reality has moved to more intelligent pastures (there too, inevitably to be junked into oblivion eventually).

So, as a pointless effort at pissing in the wind... JW you are not witty, not funny, not really worth the words I'm typing, but you are effective and spectacularly represent everything CD is troubled by.  Enjoy your little vanity project JW, now burn me up....

 

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:05 | 900485 poydras
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I was unable to read it all.  Sorry.

I conclude that many lack the macroeconomic background and the abitlity to conceptualize the dynamics in abstract form.  What seems quite clear to some eludes most.  Many are simply deluded.  The imbalances and distortions are far too great at this point.  What remains now is waiting for market participants to realize it.  Meanwhile some are able to profit from the current dynamics.  I choose not to play a rigged system.  Unfortunately, ZIRP is legalized theft from all savers.  A critcal mass of protest seems unlikely prior to a major dislocation.
Your efforts to document the rigging is greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you can direct the angry mob to the culprits.  I hope that you and others receive proper recognition.
Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:03 | 900479 spinone
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CD -  Being at ZH has led me through a painful process of losing faith in things I assumed and never questioned.  Your posts have been one of the things that helped me regain a new faith.  I greatly respect you and others who realize this is an inner journey as much as an economic forum for many of us.  The real gestalt has been your truth that TPTB convinced me that my interests were theirs, and that I should be afraid because their system is breaking.  Their system IS breaking, but its not MY system.  Once I realized that, I was ready for the next leg of the journey.

 

You often put into words thoughts that are rattling wordless around my mind.  When this blog degenerates into testosterone fueled comparisons of .308 vs 7.62x39, your posts help me realize that success in this next phase, the '4th turning' won't be had through better material preparations.  I have guns, silver, a well, and so on.  I can stand and fight and have a fair chance of winning.  Does that bring me piece of mind?  No, it does not.  It is only my own journey within myself that will bring me there, and prepare me.

 

Are the veterans finding what they want at ZH?  Just as their own journey brought them here, I believe their journey will lead them somewhere else.  ZH is a place most pass through, like a great city on a long journey.  A great place to rest, but you can't stay here and still complete your own trip. Thanks for staying here in this great city on the Web, to guide us fellow travellers.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 23:20 | 901446 Mr Poopra
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Great post.  Your sentiments and spiritual journey mirror my own.  I wish you the best of luck.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:02 | 900478 Thunder Dome
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Cheeky Bastard and Chumbawumba are missed.  

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:06 | 900490 DavidC
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Chumba's still around (not enough though). CB, are you reading these postings?

DavidC

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:21 | 900560 JW n FL
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Cheeky.. you fucking fag! get back NOW!!! across the pond late night poster.. miss the shit out of that piss ant.. I wanted cheesy to be cheeky...

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 20:00 | 900715 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 23:25 | 901463 Bringin It
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We all miss Cheeky, but he was not in good health.  I hope he's doing well where ever he is.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:02 | 900477 Misean
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Hmmm. I departed another "blog community" many months before deciding to post here. My reasons were that obvious control was being instituted in the commentary comunity.

That said, like any social circle, things change, people move on, there are only so many hours in a day, priorities change. As well people don't like change. Nothing to be done about it.

I don't find the comments to be particularly unruly or horrible. Despite the constant drone of the truth deniers and their state worshipping twaddle, it's quite a nice little place.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 23:19 | 901442 Bringin It
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the truth deniers and their state worshipping twaddle

Well said.  I may purloin you phrase.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:01 | 900471 euryale
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just this morning i was wishing for a CD article, and wondering, sadly, if i would see one again. thanks for sticking with and thanks for a thoughtfully written, and beautifully illustrated, article.

after stuggling with the logistics of moving back to my rural roots, and finding that land prices are skyrocketing while my city-dwelling value is cratering, and getting really really depressed, and feeling hopeless, i now intersperce my readings on rainwater collection and green manures (which I may never need) with reading the Diamond Sutra - and finding what i need is not what i need :)

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 21:40 | 901107 tip e. canoe
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euryale, if you can't leave the city for the rural, bring the rural to the city.   last i heard it still rains in your hood, yes?   still make food waste, yes?   how bout cardboard & newspaper?   still take a pee every now & then?

if so, you got all you need.   if you need space, get creative.   go vertical if need be.

here's some search terms to get you started -- 

bokashi : sub-irrigation : global buckets : rooftop gardening : window farms : journey to forever : lasagna gardens

have fun

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:17 | 902529 euryale
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thanks for the good words, but i have always done this - i have an extensive garden (much vertical) and composting set-up, but the neighbors trees are slowly shading it all out - in 5 years, there won't be enough sun for anything but gooseberries. last season i lost 5 short rows on one side, and the last 1/3 of my 4 most productive rows on the other to increasing shade. about 1/2 the rasberries are too shaded to produce, anyway, now I am just degenerating into whining. in the city, one has very limited control, and even the most creative thinking cannot bring the sun back when the neighbors want trees. never-the-less, i do appreciate the thought and hope other readers will check out these great concepts.

i do hope i can find land in an unpopular and distant county, but realizing that the answers are not in other people (like the neighboors who never even go into thier yards to enjoy thier trees) or in my circumstances (decreasing ability to garden, restricive city regs on greywater) but in me, in my head, brings peace and opens up new paths unencumbered by assumtions.

:)

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 14:33 | 903370 tip e. canoe
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sorry to assume my friend and to hear of your diminished solar exposure.   is there an empty lot near you?  or maybe know anyone who wants to get into gardening and has the space & sun and wants to learn?   just throwing possibilities out there.  maybe the restrictions that you currently face are leading you towards a hidden alleyway just down the street?

thanks for the reminder of where the answers lie.   i needed that one right now too.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 23:37 | 901498 MsCreant
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I enjoy you, you are consistent and have integrity. I suffer monkey mind, wander away easily from who I know I could be. Glad to see you.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 14:45 | 903397 tip e. canoe
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glad to see you too msC, and you're not the only one wandering, trust me.  i actually think that this condition is beyond us as individuals, but rather a symptom of our age.   but it's up to each of us alone to find that field that Rumi spoke of.   hopefully, we'll meet there someday.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 00:16 | 901598 DoChenRollingBearing
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MsCreant, yet another Gem Veteran in the constellation celebrated by Cog Dis.  I have read your words from the very start of my time here in ZH land.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 21:46 | 901132 JW n FL
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" by tip e. canoe "

that is something I can not see enough of... plainly.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 15:35 | 903609 tip e. canoe
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always a pleasure jdub.    diggin the new improved mellow version.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:00 | 900464 Boxed Merlot
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news you find here is often hard to find elsewhere...

I was drawn in initially by financial wonks reporting from the trenches. The hand to hand combat narrative seems to have developed into sniping and a settling in for the long haul.

Every day continues to amaze me however. Today for instance, the outlandish request to destroy documents needed for foreclosures, Who can make this up??

Until this world gets it's next single country to rival a 14T GDP, (or equivalent), this country with 5% of the earth's population will continue to exert a bit more leverage than we deserve. So, I'll probably continue tuning in to observe and occasionally comment of the continued demise of our adventure in liberty.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 20:53 | 900892 andybev01
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I found ZH on a mission to find out how MBS's were structured and flaged the site for future reference.

I was hooked when y'all began charting the data dump from the FED.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 18:58 | 900456 DavidC
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Addendum - I do think that most adults are like children, always looking for the good side of anything. I don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with that (subject for a longer piece!) BUT it does mean that a true adult (someone who's reached the highest level of Piagetian development!), who is looking for a balanced truth (with caveat on the word) will find it harder in general when the tide of 'eternal optimism' is working against that.

DavidC

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 18:56 | 900446 JW n FL
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I might add.. all new comers are pissed and want to fight.. the more tempered views are likely to suffer some sucker punching... but the new guys / gals settle in and then learn everyone here is in fight club together, like it or lump it.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 20:50 | 900884 andybev01
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Well, there are at least 4 jaded pussies who disagree with that statement.

 

I however, do not. I want to taste blood.

 

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 18:53 | 900436 hooligan2009
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checks cornflakes...perhaps we all have feelings of futility and personal failure in common. But then we also have resonance and an ability to gain more from the parts, when summed.

Am I a veteran, I might be! I was attracted to ZeroHedge because of the great content, keeping abreast, sparking ideas, expressing and hearing back (not just gold bitchez either thay has been a tip that has made the odd 50%).

It could be that until we see black swans or, to put it another way, perception v reality gaps can be allowed without Uncle Ben's recipe for white on rice for everything, we are all just a little put out by the removal of caue and effect. Uncle Ben wins that one too.

Anyway, nice essay, I think you could describe a market cycle the same way, or the slow decline to a "lights out" universe of desolation!

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:00 | 900466 DavidC
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Nice one hooligan.

Oh, and you've been here longer than I have!

DavidC

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 18:55 | 900443 hooligan2009
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oh ...and by the way "testis sum agnitio"

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:04 | 900483 DavidC
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Just looked it up. Indeed. I guess that's what we're here for.

DavidC

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:09 | 900506 hooligan2009
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mr bean or johnny english? heh

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:40 | 900645 DavidC
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The looks of Mr Bean, the suavité of Johnny English (well, he did get Natalie Imbruglia, didn't he, so I live in hope).

DavidC

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 18:51 | 900428 DavidC
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CD,
For what it's worth I always enjoy reading your comments (DavidC, 1 year 2 weeks), although (while I enjoyed reading it!) I felt your missive above could have been a bit shorter.

For myself, I know I am becoming a bit demoralised, both intellectually and financially, by underlying conditions that have not improved since 2008 - indeed, arguably, are worse - and yet the insanity of pumping the markets up keeps going on. If conditions are so good, why the need to keep pumping (oh, yes, the 'fragility of the recovery')? Can we really buy our way out of this?

I keep coming to ZH for the detail of what Tyler et al report, and for the comments from the likes of you and those I agree with (Reggie), and for those who challenge what I'm thinking (Leo, Harry Wanger, RoboTrader etc).

But, wanting to know, and knowing more of the 'truth' (what, really, is the truth?) of what's going on by coming to ZH and having swallowed the metaphorical red pill, I do sometimes wonder if your comment about exhaustion is correct.

Am I sucker for punishment by continuing to want to know 'the truth' and remaining here?

DavidC

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 19:02 | 900475 ghostfaceinvestah
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Good points.  Unless/until QE2 is completed it is all Zimbabwe, all the time, not much to really talk about.  That's why I don't post as much, this site was really valuable in helping my develop my investment thesis of "while Bernanke prints, buy PMs and commodities, when he stops, go to cash", and that thesis has been very successful in helping me protect my wealth, but once you have that figured out, there ain't much more to talk about.

 

That's not to say I still don't enjoy the site, it is a great window into the methods of how the elites are robbing the middle class blind, but it doesn't affect how I invest.  I know when QE will end.

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 18:45 | 900399 Bruce Krasting
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An interesting take on things CG. (I loved the pics.) Funny that you should post this while just this past weekend I came to precisely the opposite conclusion.

I am going to sharply narrow the distribution of my blog. Why? It is a pain in the ass, and I get nothing from it. I will continue to contribute to ZH. Why? I fucking love the audience.

I used to publish on a half dozen sites and can tell you from the perspective of a few hundred articles there is no place to find serious readers than here.

ZH is about news, ideas, information. Something to laugh at. I think good content is all that ZH is about.

One part of the ZH audience is very important to me. I can tell you that a number of government agencies stop by on a regular basis to see what is being said. (When I spell some guys name wrong they send me a note) I assure you that these readers don't make any comments. But I also assure you that they read them all.

bk

Mon, 01/24/2011 - 20:29 | 900817 Rainman
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Superior news on the super snoops, BK !! So that's why a chopper flies around my house throughout the day !!

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