Debt Ceiling

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It doesn’t matter what terms the President offers. It’s that simple. Boehner can’t deliver the votes...That's why Boehner is always crying--Alan Grayson

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Boehner Just Took Debt Ceiling Negotiations Back Five Steps, Calls Obama's Request "Blank Check", Invokes Visions Of Hank Paulson

In a posting on his blog, Boehner just managed to snag any progress in the debt ceiling negotiation, saying that the president "is trying to set up a no-win situation for taxpayers: either he gets his $2.4 trillion blank check, or America defaults", generatinged much despised PTSD visions of Hank Paulson' staccato threats in Congress, and in doing so making any compromise he may have been pursuing with the Tea Party virtually impossibly and certainly nearly unpracticable with just 3 days before the absolute legal deadline this Thursday. Perhaps that is just the reason why bonds suddenly ripped. Remember: bonds will be bought if sendng is curtailed and no incremental debt will be layered... to a point. Should the US default, buying will turn to selling, first very slowly, then very fast.

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A Look At Events In The Week Ahead: All About The Debt Ceiling.... Again

Goldman performs the now traditional compilation of key global events and catalysts in the week ahead although there is really just one day that everyone is focusing on: Thursday: "House takes up Senate package, and potentially alters it. Under its rules, the House normally requires a bill to be publicly available for three days before voting on it, but might be able to bend the rules given the deadline. If support is lacking for the McConnell-Reid plan, as appears possible, the House may vote on an alternative package that pairs $300-$500bn in spending cuts with a debt limit increase of the same size. If it becomes clear during the Senate debate early next week that the Senate approach will not gain adequate Republican support in the House, House Republican leaders might move preemptively to pass a shorter extension rather than waiting to receive the Senate bill." Today the market did not crash, which foiled Obama's shock and awe plans (thank you Bernanke Put). However, if there is nothing by Thursday, then even the meanreversionbots will be powerless to just sit back and observe the massive carnage.

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Mike Pento: Debt Ceiling Misconception and Deception

The debt ceiling debate that has dominated the headlines over the past month has been thoroughly infused with a string of unfortunate misconceptions and a number of blatant deceptions. As a result, the entire process has been mostly hot air. While a recitation of all the errors would be better attempted by a novelist rather than a weekly columnist, I’ll offer my short list. 

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SocGen On The Three "11th Hour" Debt Ceiling Scenarios, And Their Respective Market Reactions

As we enter the overnight futures market open, there is still no resolution on the ongoing debt ceiling open question. Which is why we present SocGen's handy summary of the three scenarios that are currently in the running for a consensual resolution, together with the possible market reactions to each. The three plans are the McConnell-Reid plan, which as per latest news is in the frontrunning currently, not least (and probably only) due to the immediate beneficial impact it would have on stocks. The 2nd plan is a large deficit reduction plan, whose primary impact would be a significant drag on GDP. Stocks, and bonds, are likely to both rally on the news of this plan, at least in the short-term until the market realizes that some economic growth is actually necessary for the hopium illusion to continue. Lastly, the worst case outcome is no increase in the debt limit, which, logically, would mean that every illusion collapses and the emperor is finally exposed to be naked.

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Latest In The Debt Ceiling Crisis: Reid To Offer $2.5 Trillion In Deficit Reductions And No Tax Increases

Just out from CNN's Lisa Desjardins

  • BREAKING - NEW Dem. debt plan: Reid to offer at "least $2.5 Trillion" in deficit redux w/ no revenue increases, Dem. source tells CNN.
  • NEW REID PLAN: "At least $2.5 T in deficit redux" w/ no revenue increases. BUT, unclear what baseline he's using and what he'd cut.
  • REID PLAN: Dem aide tells our they think it meets GOP call for dollar-for-dollar spending cuts with debt increase.

And we are confident that the spending "cuts" will take place over 10 years, back-end loaded, which means no spending cuts any time soon. Said otherwise, no spending cuts, no tax hikes. And yes, $2.5 trillion debt ceiling increase. Just as we predicted two weeks ago.

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Boehner Issues Interim Statement As Debt Ceiling Talks Continue

Following a resumption of the "failed" debt ceiling discussion at 11 am this morning, John Boehner has just released the following broad statement: “As I said last night, over this weekend Congress will forge a responsible path forward. House and Senate leaders will be working to find a bipartisan solution to significantly reduce Washington spending and preserve the full faith and credit of the United States." So much for the debt talks breaking down. And with so many "deficit-cutting" loose ends, all of which will eventually be resolved, probably by the time Asia opens tomorrow, here is Bloomberg's latest attempt at summarizing what is currently going on and why for Obama getting a solution before the market opens bidless on Monday is the most important thing right now.

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The Debt Ceiling Debate Goes Gossip Girl: Obama Tweets That Boehner Is Now His BFF

I am not sure when U.S. politicians changed from being elitist, self-serving, perk enjoying, hypocrites, to teenage girls, but it has happened. Boehner sends a Dear John letter. Obama complains that phone calls aren't being returned. Reid is pulling petals from a flower repeating, 'he loves me', 'he loves me not'. We have had to listen to stories about getting homework done on time and eating our peas. I have seen this story before, actually multiple times a day, just turn on Disney network and you can watch the same story unfold over and over. We all know how those shows end, everyone agrees that the other side wasn't totally wrong, there is an awkward group hug, and everyone is happy, until the next episode.

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"Down To The Wire": Oaktree's Howard Marks Takes On The US Debt Ceiling

While it is always good to hear grizzled veterans explain what we all know, namely that the US debt situation is untenable and America will eventually collapse under the weight of its obligations, we wonder: where were these same people while the debt was being accumulated and everyone was shiny and happy (there is a reason why the correlation between US GDP and debt is about as close to 1 as they come) and without a care in the world about America's long term solvency?  Yes: we do enjoy the writings of Oaktree's Howard Marks who has chosen to dissect the US debt ceiling and more specifically America's untenable deficit spending as the topic of his latest letter, although we can't help but wonder: why now? Why not a year ago? Or, better yet, a decade ago? Furthermore, as last night's explosive announcements by the president and Boehner demonstrated the debt hike story has so many moving parts that staying on top of it is virtually meaningless. Indeed, it would have been much more useful for America if financial luminaries as Marks had actually spoken up while the US Treasury was accumulating trillions in debt, instead of all the Monday Morning quarterbacking we seem to be getting each and every day from all the "fiscally prudent" ones who rode the train of America's "great moderation" runaway debt to stratospheric wealth and were all very silent then...

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Boehner Tells GOP Lawmakers There Is No Deal On Debt Ceiling

No deal... for now. From Reuters: "Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives John Boehner told fellow Republicans on Friday there's still no deal to avert a debt default, but that talks continue, a senior party member said. Boehner's message at a closed-door House Republican meeting was: "There's no deal, and we'll continue to work to get resolution to the problem," said Republican Congressman Tom Latham." They have less than 14 hours now.

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Update On Obama-Boehner's Debt Ceiling Non-Deal "Deal"

The speculative headlines on the debt ceiling status are now coming in fast and furious. The latest is from Reuters according to which President Barack Obama and U.S. House Speaker John Boehner are discussing a possible deal that would include $3 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years to avert an unprecedented U.S. default, a senior Democratic congressional aide said on Thursday. Their potential agreement would include a promise of tax reform in 2012, the aide said. In other words, this is not a deal at all, but merely promises of cuts at some point in the future, coupled with tax 2012.

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Latest Update On Debt Ceiling Melodrama

Time for the hourly update on the Congressional soap. The Hill reports that "Congressional Democratic leaders are headed back to the White House on Wednesday for more talks on raising the debt ceiling. White House press secretary Jay Carney announced House and Senate Democratic would meet with Obama at the White House at 2:50 p.m. Obama called Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Tuesday night." It adds that after the release of a new proposal Tuesday by the bipartisan Senate Gang of Six, Obama told reporters it was time for leaders to "talk turkey" and work to reach a deal. And while there has been a recent increase in voices against the $3.7 trillion "plan", the fate of the McConnell fall back plan, which as expected is the most likely to pass as it is completely toothless, is also looking shaky:"House Democratic leaders are attacking Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) debt-ceiling fallback plan, characterizing it as a political ruse intended to scapegoat Democrats and taint them at the polls. “I’m not a fan of the McConnell proposal,” Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), the senior Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said Tuesday during a press briefing in the Capitol. “It’s designed to protect mostly Republican members of Congress from taking responsibility for votes that they’ve already made." How this plan makes sense in light of Obama's earlier statement that the House would not compromise a debt ceiling plan based on one time increases to the limit, without a long-term debt ceiling extension is unclear, nor is it clear how any of these plans which are simply window dressing will pass muster from the rating agencies, where even Fitch earlier announced any plan would have to be comprehensive for no downgrade of the US to occur. Translated: the CRAs need more stuffing for the Christmas stockings.

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Senate Nears Debt Ceiling Consensus Which Demands Change In CPI Definition

Politico reports that the latest development in the constantly changing and oh so theatric "struggle" to find a compromise on how to raise the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion, is one which will not only not do anything to fix the deficit situation but will in fact set America back, as a key part of the "savings" will come precisely from the same change in the definition of inflation courtesy of the Chained CPI introduction, which the democrats previously blasted, and for good reason: because it will be an implicit theft from Social Security. Recall that the last time this was proposed the AARP started foaming in the mouth within minutes. The broad strokes of the plan are as follows: "The once moribund Senate “Gang of Six” regained new life Tuesday after Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn unexpectedly rejoined the group — and more senators are now coalescing around a new proposal that would cut the debt by as much as $3.7 trillion over the next decade.  According to a copy of the plan, obtained by POLITICO, the group would impose a two-step legislative process that would make $500 billion worth of cuts immediately followed by a second bill to create a “fast-track process” that would propose a comprehensive bill aimed at dramatically restructuring tax and spending programs. The plan calls for changes to Social Security to move on a separate track, and establishes an elaborate procedure for considering the measures on the floor." And here is the kicker: "The $500 billion in cuts would come from a range of sources, including shifting to a new consumer price index to make cost-of-living adjustments to Social Security." Care to wager what the bulk of this $500 billion will come from: that's right - social security, whose deliverable obligations will plunge as suddenly the inflation variable in the actuarial calculation will very mysteriously be cut courtesy of Senate-endorsed theft.

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