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California And Greece: A Technical Comparison Of Catastrophe Risk





Regime changes are fun: last year it was California that the "smart money" was betting on for secession, earthquakes, default and a wholesale apocalypse. Over the past 3 months, attention has shifted to California's much smaller cousin in Europe - Greece, whose CDS, having been dormant during most of the credit crisis, has recently overtaken California by a substantial amount. Yet what in Greece's staggering budget deficit and untenable debt load was unknown 6 months ago that is known today? Absolutely nothing, as none of the recent developments should be construed as "news", yet with everyone talking about it, CDS traders are more than happy to capitalize on the hoopla and crush the bulls. The point here being that if traders think Greek default risk is material, how should the world's 7th largest economy feel? Yes, they legalized grass, but somehow we doubt that is a viable model to bridge the gap from here to insolvency. And with the Massachusetts referendum now shutting the door on any future bailouts, those of states most certainly included, we wonder: shouldn't the entity with the $10 billion deficit be trading just a little wider of little old Greece? California CDS have been on a tear, and after hitting a low of 160 bps, are now back to 273. Their high was 400 in the depths of the post-Lehman shitstorm. And while the Federal picture since then has improved only thanks to the Fed's wanton destruction of the middle class, for states it has only been an increasingly bumpy downhill ride.

 
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Greece CDS Hits Fresh Record; Funding Crisis Now Official





The economic situation in Greece is getting worse by the day. Despite PM Papandreou's promises to the contrary, it is probably safe to say that the country is now in a full blown funding crisis; this is reflected in the country's fresh new record in its default risk as seen by credit traders. At 346 bps, it is just a matter of time before all hedges cover positions and this number explodes. Now it is the Eurozone's turn to promise it will not expel Greece from the monetary union: we think the likelihood of this action is increasing proportional to the number of times this possibility is refuted.

 
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Moody's Downgrades Greece To A2, Keeps It Two Notches Above S&P And Fitch, Prostitutes Itself Again





The rating agency that has gotten selling out down to an art, just downgraded Greece from A1 to A2, yet kept it two notches higher than where the country is now fairly rated by Fitch and S&P, thereby preventing the country from collapsing into a liquidity crisis. By taking this action, Moody's has once again proven its utter worthlessness, by pretending to be objective while at the same time keeping an artificially inflated rating high enough to prevent the unforeseen spillover effects from Greece's inability to use Treasury's as ECB collateral: the definitive first domino to fall in Europa, about which we wrote 3 days ago.

 
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The European AIG: How Moody's Downgrade Of Greece Can Start The Avalanche





As one so vividly remembers, probably the key catalyst that set off the chain of events last fall following the collapse of Lehman were the closed loop (and much delayed) downgrades of AIG, which in a span of hours went from AAA to much lower, thus springing various collateral requirements which the company could not satisfy, and in turn forcing even more downgrades, until ultimately it became clear that the firm (like most others on Wall Street) is merely a lot of hot air and unjustified valuations. Ironically, the rating agencies, and more specifically Moody's, could once again be the catalyst for the much anticipated collapse of the European house of cards, which as all now know, has Greece as its weakest link. The threat: a Greek downgrade by Moody's from its current rating of A1 to anything with a B handle would make the country's sovereign debt ineligible for ECB collateral in 2011, sparking a sovereign liquidity crisis. Recall that both Fitch and S&P recently downgraded Greece to BBB+, implying that the fate of Greece, and specifically its ability to access cheap and quick capital via the ECB, could be cut off on the whim of the rating agency that Warren Buffett himself can't stop selling enough of.

 
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Greece Default Risk Surges





Greece 5 Year CDS up 28 to 269 bps. The all time high for the country was on January 20 at 292 bps, which was before Bernanke decided to have US taxpayers bailout the world.

Update: S&P just slashed the banks which Citigroup Crameresquely tells its clients to Buy, Buy, Buy.

 
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Greece - A Line in the Sand?





How big a deal is Greece? Potentially real big. This story has all the pieces for something to get out of control. If the potential for chaos exists, the markets tend to gravitate towards it. Every day we seem to get a bit closer.

 
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Is The PIIGS Moment Of Fracking Approaching? S&P Joins Sovereign Risk Brigade, Downgrades Greece To BBB+





More bad news for a troubled Greece. More bad news for a troubled Greece. And all this happening even as finance minister George Papaconstantinou says that Greece "is not banking and not operating under the assumption" that the Hellenic country will be bailed out by its Eurozone neighbors. He has certainly studied the Dick Fuld script well.

 
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Greece Enters Twilight Zone As It Announces 90% Banker Bonus Tax Plans, Expectations For Sub 3% Deficit By 2013





Developing story as highlights from George Papandreou's speech become available. Some notable snippets include his desire to cut deficits below 3% of GDP by 2013 (good luck), a cut in debt sovereign starting in 2012, and, most notably, a limitation on banker bonuses in the form a 90% bonus tax.

More headlines: Greek PM says will privatise companies not essential to the state, will proceed with state asset sales

 
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With Dubai Temporarily Contained, All Eyes Shift To Greece





Today at 7pm, Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou will address “the economy, the productive model, the credibility of the state mechanism, the confidence of our European partners and, above all, the daily life and prospects of Greeks." The reason for this extraordinary measure (keep in mind this is Greece, not D.C., where the president provides hourly updates on the latest BLS releases) is the recent plunge in Greek stocks and government bonds, and culminating with several rating agencies either downgrading the country (Fitch) or putting it on downgrade review (S&P). Most recently, the yield on Greek 10 years hit 5.295% on concerns the country's fiscal deficit of 12.7% will makes its already extreme leverage even more unmanageable. And the biggest wildcard: the massive reliance of Greek banks on ECB repos backed by potentially soon to be much lass valuable government debt.

 
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Greece, China, USA and the Euro - All Connected?





Some thoughts on where the Greece story may go. Two possible outcomes. They both have significant impacts.

 
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Daily Credit Summary: December 8 - Greece'd Darkening





Spreads ended the day mixed in the US today with very low intraday ranges and only marginal moves as HY just outperformed IG. Breadth was modestly negative as TMT and CONSumer names underperformed. We note that credit has outperformed equity in the last couple of days as the dollar has sprung higher and perhaps this is another of the coal-mine's canaries that risk-aversion (think steam behind the run) is hitting stocks.

 
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S&P Prepares To Cut Greece Rating For Second Time In One Year, Here Comes BBB+





Greece was placed on Creditwatch with Negative Implications by S&P, noting that the country's A- rating may be cut within 2 months. Greece CDS has widened by 11 bps to 194 on the news, and Greece now accounts for 19.7% of all SovX risk currently.

 
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Greece Plunges, Stock Market Down 7%+, CDS 20 Wider To 212





Contagion effect is spreading as the weakest link in the Eurozone catches fire.

 
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Downgrade Watch: First Greece, Then Spain, Now Portugal... Make it Stop





Well, can't say we didnt see it coming. Portugal was downgraded with impunity by S&P from AA- to A+ on the belief that "the government's structural reform measures relating to the economy and public finances have proven insufficient to bring about convergence with the 'AA' peer group." And what a high quality peer group it is.

 
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Downgrade Watch: First Greece, Then Spain, Now Portugal... Make it Stop





Well, can't say we didnt see it coming. Portugal was downgraded with impunity by S&P from AA- to A+ on the belief that "the government's structural reform measures relating to the economy and public finances have proven insufficient to bring about convergence with the 'AA' peer group." And what a high quality peer group it is.

 
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