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As someone who was a journalist embedded with all of the branches of the serveice during 2001 to 2004, I couldn't have said it better than you.
question, do you or did you have a problem
with being embedded while referring to your
work as journalism? did you get the story
or were you given the story?
@"..draft." immediately followed by an
insurrection which is why there is no
draft "needed".
Memorial Day – Time to Ask Why
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/27/memorial-day-time-to-ask-why/
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"..In 1917 we went to war to “make the world safe for democracy.”
95 years later, that world lives in virtual slavery, Americans are beginning to starve, look around you, Africa is still colonized, brutality and deception are the norm.
Please, point to one success, Britain proven a slave of Murdoch and Blair, a cabal of crime, Germany ruled by the Stasi “queen,” France and the rest of Europe in utter collapse, Africa, raped and slaughtered for profit, Asia, the land of sweat shops, Mexico, drugs, murder and human trafficking, a land of fear, very much a part of a continent in collapse.
This is what we fought to give our children. What we forgot to do is teach them right from wrong, who to kill, when to kill and why. We never learned that ourselves.
Next time we are asked to head across the world to steal oil, sell drugs and murder children, we might just head the other direction. Think I am kidding? Ask around."
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A draft is the barometer that measures commitment and purpose. Unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, the absence of a draft has made commercially motivated war very easy to execute. Iraq is the textbook example.
WB7: With all due respect, you are wrong about the draft. It's the FED. End the FED and discretionay war will end. If Americans had to pay for their wars with cash up front, war would be infrequent, brief and decisive.
Imperial wars were happening long before the FED existed. That is not the problem. The problem is having a long line of young men and women all wanting to serve their country, but who end up being sent off to fight wars that does quite the opposite.
And right now the USA is not being attacked yet it is embroiled in several wars whilst about to start others. As is the UK.
A draft also polarizes the scum elite. For instance the BULLSHIT Bush told us that he was not avoiding the draft being in the reserves. Everyone knew back then that those spots were reserved for the rich while the rest of us took our chances in the draft. And that ASSHOLE had the stones to tell my generation that he wasn't avoiding the draft? FUCK HIM. I hope he gets colon cancer.
You're nothing but a miserable pantyliner. Other TANG units flew in Viet Nam, same F-102 aircraft as well. Bush could have easily been called up. If you think flying an F-102 was something "reserved for the rich", you're nucking futs. If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I would have ONE DOLLAR.
You're a miserable pantyliner. Other TANG units flew in Viet Nam, same F-102 aircraft as well. Bush could have easily been called up. If you think flying an F-102 was something "reserved for the rich", you're nucking futs. If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I would have ONE DOLLAR.
Being a clueless person who has allowed or volunteered himself to become a pawn of a corrupt elitist system where he is commanded to try to butcher other clueless people is not the highest calling of a human being. I prefer to honor Gandhi on Memorial Day.
A Draft is the barometer that measures commitment and purpose...
WTF??? So I get drafted, I'm committed and have purpose? Clearly I'm clueless. Oh, perhaps acceptance of the draft by society measures this? That's still not right; the govt institutes a draft, who can resist? Look what happened to Ali and the rest. They had to flee to Canada. Now they cannot even do that!
The federal reserve and its lovely fiat paper enables wars of choice. Remember that much of the so-called wars are just gun-boat diplomacy with little risk of real pain for Nato, USA et al. So no pain, e-z credit....what more could we ask for???
That barometer is an inverse measurement.
Taking nothing away from those that serve/have served honorably (I have two honorable discharges hanging on my wall)..
The scary thing is that orders are coming from a 100% certified born colonial subject of the British Crown.. the exact type of person that Article II of the Constitution excludes.
None of his orders, decrees or signed laws are constitutional and officers follow those orders in violation of their oath of office.
But then, there is nothing much left of the Constitutional United States of America now, anyway.
religion and nationalism have been the
socio-paste that has made those historic
struggles so profoundly meaningless, imo.
privatising enlistment with the
pay for fighting in "money" has brought
us an opportunity to see the true nature
of this "business" /racket. we see the evolution
of motivation for war, or the de-evolution,
or there is no evolution, it has always been about
stealing and killing with lipstick. now we realize
the beneficiary was never the one that was thought
to be the beneficiary, the victim is always the people
and the cause was always just for money and its
various permutations, just don't tell the kids.
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Buffy Sainte-Marie - Universal Soldier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWsGyNsw00
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when does it change?
There's a piece on Bloomberg about making morphine easier to get.
Make sure you thank a veteran of the Afghanistan conflict for the readily available supply.
The Spoils of War: Afghanistan's Multibillion Dollar Heroin Trade
Canada faces a flood of heroin and addictsDec 12, 2010 ... Afghanistan now supplies 92 per cent of the world's opium...
The Politics of Heroin in Southeast AsiaRegarding the Canadian heroin addiction increase, much of that is no doubt due to the abrupt withdrawal of Oxycontin from the market in April, 2012.
Due to the abuse of Oxycontin (crushing the pills so they could be snorted or dissolved and injected, or just chewed and swallowed for an intense fast high rather than swallowing whole so the pill could be allowed to dissolve slowly to provide a lengthy period of pain relief), TPTB decided to switch to a different formulation (OxyNeo) that would turn the pill to gel if it were crushed and dissolved in water.
As one of the articles below describes, as many as 50% of the First Nation residents are estimated to be addicted to Oxycontin. Yes, they can see their doctors and get new scripts for NeoOxy. But it is uncertain whether that drug will be covered by Canada's health insurance benefits. That's unusual in Canada where most drugs are covered, according to a Canadian friend I talked to for reference.
Detox programs are limited in Canada, as is the case pretty much everywhere.
I'm not advocating for drug addiction -- who would? but it seems this situation could have been better handled.
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1140468--sudden-ontario-ban-on-oxycontin-means-misery-for-addicts-without-detox
http://www.thefix.com/content/mass-withdrawal-oxycontin-canada9783
Attachment is the source of suffering.
Fuck the military, and those who fought for Empire. Death to the stormtroopers, and death to the state which employs them. If you don't agree, fuck you 100%!
Dirty bomb, Hacker, China, Tamil Tigers, Enriched, Los Zetas
I thought they got you?
How does human face taste?
Anyway dumbass, the soldiers are not responsible. 80% of the modern military (post Vietnam) join for lack of better (seemingly) opportunities.
That's a GOVERNANCE problem psycho. So go talk to daddy.
So ethics has no bearing in modern society you are saying? Can't bitch about the guy that pulled the trigger on some raghead, cuz he couldn't... FIND A JOB!?!?!?!?!
You, my friend are part of the problem, and ought to be ashamed of the shit you spout here. You're a real fucking champ.
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No my mental midget friend. War would not be a constant in a decent, WELL GOVERNED society.
Something we do not have and therefore we have war instead.
You are missing the forest for the trees doofus.
Not responsible for killing people?! HAHAHA!! That's rich!
Oh, thats just beautiful. Could you give me some examples?
Since you're a woman, I imagine some fantastical, wikkan assembly of elder sisters could fit the bill right? Cook up some powerful middle-aged, mumbo jumbo magic, and poof! Life becomes peaceful. rape has disappeared for our collective lexicon, people are free to play tambourines in the park, and white men, like whisps of clouds on our collective conciousness, have all but, been forgotten. A feminist UTOPIA!
How about Switzerland dipshit?
And no, they did not arrive at their utopian position without military conflict. They arrived there via GOOD governance. AND because of good governance (self governance, an actual republic) they no longer engage in war.
America does not have a military problem fuck nuts. America has a government problem.
Oh, and there is that little Federal Reserve issue as well, but once again that is, just as with the military, a symptom of disease. Not the disease.
The disease is government.
Absent this ruinous form of government of the people, against the people and for the government and those not willing to grow up and leave mommy government, the military issue would be moot.
Blaming the soldiers is akin to blaming LBJ's great grandchildren for the failures of the so called 'great society'.
In doing so you have a point, but then again it is a superficial point that does nothing to cure the disease.
Again, I return to government as the illness.
No, fuck you. Disrespecting people who served is asinine.
You can disparage the MIC, but the people who served? The grunts in the mud? The dead?
You are a complete asswipe for that.
Save your cynicism for your douchebag buddies.
Get bent you sorry little cunt. I mean what I said 100%. Anyone who voluntarilly joins an organization whose sole purpose is to kill for profits, is either completely retarded, or else a piece of shit. Fuck them, and fuck you!
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You are so fucking right. I served 6 years. Not once did I think I was "fighting for our freedom". What a retarded concept! I needed a fucking job, money, benefits and couldn't afford college. Same like 90% of these clowns and especially my fellow "brothas".
If these retards want to "fight for our freedom" I got a GREAT fucking place they should start... and I don't even have to say it. ( I won't, cause I don't wanna end up disappeared by Brotha #1...)
You all swear to defend the Constitution? Well, defend it. You damn sure ain't gotta get on no damn boat! Try Greyhound bus... head east...
I hear you. The day I respect the military is the day they drop into DC and NY, and clean house, and we see some motherfuckers swinging from lamp posts.
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PLF, Enriched, Pirates, Yemen, Ammonium Nitrate
If you hate war so much...Why then do you work for the government that makes it?
Troll. (and not a very smart one, typical enough).
You've got a real hangup about intelligence. Work for the government.... WHAT!?!?!?! You really oughta read some of my posts I think. Either that, or get back on your meds Sister.
(insert cuckoo clock sound effects)
Oooooo. Big man behind that keyboard, aren't ya? Tough words from someone who most likely is akin to Justin Bieber-tough.
Calling people who served in the military retards and pieces of shit confirms your own ass-holyness.
So go ahead, prickmyer - use all those tough words. I bet you're a douchebag wimp ass in real life.
Fuck off loser
Think what you like. I'm definately more of a man in every way than you are, and probably 90% of the posters here. One difference though- I'm not going to be involved in the killing of people just like me, in order that the rich become richer. If you can live with the karma you've incurred, go ahead and murder away Joe. However, when your time comes, and you are facing the end of your life, you will know that you massively fucked up, and there will be no excuses. In addition, I'm not going to feign respect for people who either have no spark of consciousness, or else are stupid enough to do what they do.
I met your kind when I was back in the states in 2006. These guys got a real kick out of telling war stories about offing "Hajis". It was sickening, but even more sickening was the respect they received by the idiots who'd never gone off to war.
The shit ending that is coming to america, is rightfully deserved. A nation of murderers, theives, sloths, and whores deserves some god awful times. Blame the politicians and bankers all you want. Most americans have become sacks rubbish, and are complicit in the destruction of a great nation.
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No, FUCK YOU, hadji.
"I met your kind when I was back in the states in 2006. These guys got a real kick out of telling war stories about offing "Hajis". It was sickening, but even more sickening was the respect they received by the idiots who'd never gone off to war."
Did ya now, fuckstick? No...you didn't.
See, not every person that served in the military tells stories such as this. In fact, the bullshit meter goes off when anyone gets into telling tales of war heroics. You took several idiots telling war stories as the norm - when it is far from it.
Check all my posts. You'll never see me "bragging" about any war stories, or of killing the enemy. TRUE soliders don't.
Not sure what crawled up your self-righteous ass, but your wish for America to fail is laughable. "Rightfully deserved" - it is now?
Damn glad you aren't stinking up the country then.
You must be blowing farts close to Fukishima - I'd hold them in, in case of a sudden explosion...if your name on here gives any clue. Tell us, smart guy - where do you dwell?
I bet there are lots of problems there too. Oh, and by the way, you condemning the entire country shows you are weak brained, and fall for the media hype of this country being fat and lazy. MANY more aren't than are - suckhead.
You know how the 90% of us know that you have a massive inferiority complex?
Because you think you're better - and by the way, douche - 90% of the posters on here are from all around the world - not just the US, so you "insulted" the entire planet.
Cunt? No, you just peaked out behind you're own meat curtains and saw yourself.
NO soldier I know is "proud" to have to have killed. There is no debate going on when you are being shot at. It is sheer terror, but you train for it, but it never fully prepares you.
I am just glad I am still alive.
I'm living in Chongqing, China. You think its the media that makes me believe the states are peopled by penguins?! Haha! That's laughable! I am an american, and have spent a helluva lota years in my own country. Just leave any country, arrive at LAX, and you'll feel you've landed in a huge emporer penguin colony in Antarctica.
You think so? You really don't think most americans don't deserve the government and economy they have now? You don't think that everyone living beyond their means wasn't complicit in the downfall? I don't even know where to start with that subject, so I won't.
Can't say that I have a massive inferiority complex. I'm successful, barely work, have tons of free time, a great family, am fit, have enough cash to retire at the youngish age of 40, have all my hair, am in the best shape of my life. Nah, I really think pretty highly of myself to be honest.
Kinda doubt it. If there are many posters from outside the states, I'd imagine they'd have had enough exposure to agree with me.
Anyway, I guess in your limited way, you thought you were doing a great service to our country by being a corporate thug. People make mistakes. I've made my share of them. However, if you don't recognize that you were nothing more than a cheap thug, sent to a place you should have never been, then what can I say? If you actually went to these other countries, and took anyones life, and don't feel remorseful about it, or your role in what it was all for, then there is little hope for you, and with a clear conscience I can wholeheartedly say fuck you, and every other rat like you.
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In Chongqing? Do you know Wang Lijun? Have you seen the new Chinese Internet Laws? Are you and AnAnonymous blobbing partners?
Free, indeed. Well, I guess you're there for the waters. And the air. And gwai los like you are just feeling more and more love as the days go by, right? Next time you hit a bar with your local SO/wifey, you might have to take on the mien of the soldiers you hate.
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Indeed...you are a cunt.
"I'm successful, barely work, have tons of free time, a great family, am fit, have enough cash to retire at the youngish age of 40, have all my hair, am in the best shape of my life. Nah, I really think pretty highly of myself to be honest."
Go take your full head of hair free time ass and stuff it up the closest person to you's ass.
You assume that everyone that serves is a cheap thug. Fuck you for that.
What can you say...you ask? You've said enough. Enough for most everyone else to conclude you are a horses' ass.
You assume that soliders all don't feel remorse for the killing of others. Thought I did.You thought wrong - dickhead.
Your conscience is fucked up. YOU are fucked up - and the irony of it is that you live in a communist country.
Arrogant motherfuckers....all alike. Think they know everything, talk tough, and act all big.
I highly doubt all your claims. Why? In my time, people who brag about being great, or having it "all", such as you, usually don't.
I guess I'm wrong about that. You really have my sincerest apologies.
Communist country?! Don't believe everything you hear. This is one of the free-est places I have ever been...at least for foreigners. And taxation is nearly nonexistant.
Haha! Being great?! don't remember saying that. I merely described my life. Never said I was super wealthy, or a rock star bedding 50 chicks a week. Maybe what you percieve as great, is indicative of how low expectations have fallen for americans back in the homeland.
You are kinda bummin me out with your admission of killing people for no good reason, and with your perception of a great life. I'm really sorry to have given you so much shit. We all do what we are supposed to do, and each have our predetermined paths. I really wish you a happy and peaceful life. Best wishes.
Stay the fuck in China.
Look, I never claimed one way or the other on remorse for killing anyone.
Don't think for one minute there isn't remorse, guilt, or sadness in the killing of others. Unless you are without a soul or a heart. There are men like that. I distanced myself from them.
I neither glorified it, or justified it. The truth is, war is hell.
Whatever way you slice it. No matter what started it, who did so, or reasons for it.
My father returned from WWII, and I knew he saw atrocities - but he never - EVER - spoke about it. Downplayed his role in combat. Only after years past, from his buddies and from news accounts of battles he fought in, was I to ascertain the horrors he saw, witnessed and dealt with.
Decorated, he never wore his medals, and told me as a boy they were medals for "men he knew - the men that did not come home".
I followed his footsteps. Being in the military is not all bad. There is humanity everywhere you look.
As I said, true soldiers never brag, or talk about it. The men I and my fellow soldiers were up against were warriors. We were at the same time fearful, brave, and respectful of their abilities - as I am sure they were of us. Malcontents and people of whom you spoke of were shunned. No bragging, bullshit and "war stories" were tolerated in our platoon. I was lucky that our C.O. and Non-Coms were level headed men.
However, to cast aspersions on everyone in the military is simply wrong.
It stains the good men I knew who fell. On this day of remembrance.
You assume much to much bad in this country, and not enough good. It seems you believe much of what you read as to the US.
Peace to you as well.
Trying to see how many buzzwords you can use for homeland security?
Of course. Try it on for size, and see how you like it. If the fuckers wanna sift through everything we write in Utah, why not give em enough reading material? Please encourage everyone to do the same, and lets sock it to em! Imagine if everyone in america did this.
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Right on man. Someone with balls. I wish I could lean on the green arrow.
Thank you friend! Its nice to see a sane person once in a while. Hope to see you around again :)
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those who are not ready to exit the matrix, will defend it. I had a heated debate, with a believer yesterday,(war makes us free) and I began to raise my voice. the bottom line, is until you are willing to admit, you may be wrong, and that you have been duped over and over,you will not be able to see the truth.
Advice for those considering joining the military:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8rbHwMXMT8
Great advice. He volunteered five times. Must have been something goin' on there. But afterwords, second thoughts, reconsiderations, ... uggg ... maybe something else. Military recruitment is kinda' funny, screen in those interested, attract the motivated, then screen out the non-starters, then you have a pool of volunteers to be submitted to further screening. One of the "screen-out" events that I saw was for prospective Naval Aviators. Started out with all of the rah-rah bullshit. Then turned to crashes, test flights gone bad (wings pulling off of a test plane do not instill confidence)... Of 50 in the audience, they screened out 5. Great QC and saved the then .gov millions.
Now, wrt to the video: One teensy-weensy-not quite a quibble. Here's the FULL oath:
Internet search terms: military oath of office for enlisted. You can look it up for yourselves
Dang pesky "obey orders" thingie.
Under his scenario, Pearl Harbor would not have qualified as an attack on the Constitution. But this is a quibble in the face of a great video.
- Ned
I've had endless squabbles over the oath...
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
seems cut & dry to me.
dude, your squabbles are wrt the interpretations, and the behaviors of sworn individuals. I suggest that they are not with the wording. Do you agree?
otoh, the people sworn are not living up to their oaths.
Part of the attack on the UCMJ wrt the "gay" exemptions. Used to be "penetration, however slight, shall be sufficient to complete the offense". That was in the era when rape was rape.
- Ned