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When you are suddenly surrounded by violence and killing, it’s too late to train.
My prayers and thoughts this morning are with the families of those that were killed or injured by the psychopath in Colorado, and also with my own family that attended a movie last weekend and shall do so again many times in the future.
Below, I have re-posted an email sent out this morning from Brian Hoffner in response to the Batman shooting. Brian is a Houston Police Department officer that trains other law enforcement officers at the academy. He also conducts courses for private citizens. At this time, in most of our nation's cities, one can find instructors like Brian that are ready, willing, and able to teach others how to not become a victim.
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7-20-12
This morning’s BATMAN SHOOTING, I wish I could have been there to stop this killer but I wasn’t. That’s the way it is...The sheepdogs wish they could have been there, the sheep are thankful that they weren’t.
This killer was prepared and calculating as he slowly made his way up the stairs and firing - picking random people. For years I have been lecturing about and preparing police and my students to defend against this kind of shooting including what to do in a movie theater because I know that it’s coming.
Responsible Americans must enjoy life while being prepared for the kooks. There are screwed up people in this world and they can appear anywhere at any moment. Be prepared for your immediate defense and the protection of their family. It is an obligation. It the reason I train Police and Responsible Citizens, but it takes more than skills and mindset,,, it also takes equipment and you have to have it with you. That’s why I have made holsters for the last quarter century and invented American Tactical Apparel Pants.
If you leave the house without your head screwed on right and without the equipment to win the sudden violent situation,,, you are a sheep, period. Unfortunately there are so many people out there that will not do what they need to do to be prepared, and I know many of them. They talk about it, procrastinate; find something other than the welfare of their family to spend their money and time on. I know because I don't see them in training. They train a little than they stop. They may carry their gun but will be unable to respond appropriately in the blink of an eye.
I canceled this weekend’s Tactical shotgun class, why? No one signed up for the best shotgun training in the world. No one signed up to retake at half price so they could work on getting their 5 shot time below two seconds.
So I will scratch my head, like I do when only a handful show up for SoSu on Saturday mornings, and I wonder why I am failing to motivate those who should not need to be motivated. For those of you attending day 2 of Tactical Pistol Sunday, congratulations, but like I told you in class, many of you will go no further.
We have the opportunity under our Constitution to ensure life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for ourselves and for our families. The future will hold many challenges to our constitution and to us as individuals.
When your test comes suddenly and violently you will know who, and what, you are at that millisecond. You will understand what is happening is real and you will be glad that you are there to protect your family and save others and gloriously you will act with skill, ability, and confidence. Or you will doubt your ability, be overcome by fear, of no help to yourself or others...a sheep.
Sheep Dog Warriors are not apathetic and putting things off. They are tired because they are driven, always working, and training regardless. Get it together people, don't be sheep!
When you are suddenly surrounded by violence and killing, it’s too late to train, your skills toolbox must already be in order. You have to believe in what you can do and gloriously get it done, confidently, reactively, effectively. You know what is happening is real and you are glad to be there. This is why you train, this is why you prepare, this is why you spend so much time, money, and energy on all of it...because you are Sheepdog.
Wishing you safety through will, determination, and training,
Brian Hoffner
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I hope many of you have read my article:
Fear we are returning to a time in history where it is a common occurrence to fight for one's life?
Please allow me to remind you of Item 7
Complete the following courses in this order:
1. One half-day tactical folding knife class; $150.
2. 2-3 weekends of Tactical Pistol Courses; $1,000.
3. 2-3 weekends of Tactical Rifle Courses; $1,000.
4. One day of Self and Family Emergency Medical Aid/Trauma Kit Course; $150.
5. A series of several two-hour self-defense classes (not martial arts classes); $200.
6. Fulfillment of requirements for concealed handgun permit; $250.
You should learn in these classes how to safely conduct dry-fire training with your firearms and a dummy knife. Do this on a regular basis, such as once per week for at least 5 minutes.
Peace be with you,
h_h
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exactly, Recently in Philly and armed man wouldnt drop his gun and was about to fire on police. Full daylight, man was standing in full view, not really moving in the street. The cops shot 96 times at him, hit him 12. That means highly trained police, with time to access the situation, time to prepare, against a stationary person in the open in daylight, missed 84 times out of 96.
YEt here we have people like the article writer thinking he is fucking rambo.
LOL
Anyone who spends a fair bit of time on gun ranges in the real world knows that many cops are not very good shots at all. This is also true of many military types who dont have a combat related MOS. Both only need to qualify annually on fairly easy tests.
Yeah, they may be good compared to some guy like you who would need a 200 page federal study to figure out which end the bullet comes out of but not compared to millions of civilians who are regular shooters are more skilled.
Cops shoot way more innocent bystander than regular (CCW) citizens by about 5 to 1. Just proves that cops aren't super heroes or even necessarily competent.
A society where only cops and criminals have guns scares me, and should scare you, too.
Sorry to disillusion you about those "trained police", but many departments re-qualify at about 10 feet, on a man sized target.
It's surprising once again to see how the perception of "trained police" persists even in the face of the very clear evidence of incompetence that you yourself present.
Rambo was a movie. We live in the real world where responsibility has to be taken, sooner or later, for one's actions.
They don't train enough,period.Know that for a fact,from there been there.
"highly trained police"
Are these the same fat-asses that can't break the eight minute mile? Highly trained my ass. Education and persistent practice are always the key. What is the actual "training" schedule for these pension-endowed servants? Details fucking matter asshole, and I know more private citizens who train more than our local police force (granted many are fellow veterans). Chance will always favor the prepared mind, period. Stupid fucking sheep.
they DO get carpal tunnel from writing moving violation tickets-of which they must fill a quota of 1 ticket an hour and a DUI every 10 hours in SW Chi-town burbs
An ex's mom was an armed guard. Her Colt .38 revolver was so gummed up I had to soak it in Hoppe's overnight to get it working. Her bullets were stuck and green with corrosion. Hadn't been fired in years, if ever.
At our hillybilly gun club some local deputies got in on an egg shooting contest. You tie yarn around an egg and swing it back and forth about 2 feet, contestants shoot at it from 10 yards with whatever handgun they want to use. There is a rifle game also, but it is 25 yards.
Neither cop ever did hit that darned egg. They marveled at the marksmanship of the regulars.. I took 3 shots to hit it and was in 4th place, out of the money. Cops practice because they have to, we do it because we enjoy it. Big difference.
and those that do are but less than 1% of this nation.
"highly trained police"
Most officers join the force for two reasons IMHO, to serve, or to get to be somebody(they cannot be w/out a badge).
Unless its changed Officers in most local depts never train, and only use their weapons 2x's a year for quals.
Because they are mandatory.
they still have to qualify 2 times a year, what do delusional rambo nutbags have to do?
Train every weekend?
Totally the dumbest statement I have read in a long time. Without belaboring the point, 99% of people who actually carry a firearm on a regular basis will FAR outshoot the average police officer who is looking forward to nothing more than a fat retirement check at 42 years old.
what an incredibly stupid statement. Go to any gun club, shooting range etc. Police are among the most if not are the most gun enthusiast in this nation
Crawldaddy.What fuckin hole did you crawl out of.24 yr vet of PO PO work.I got news for ya skippy.They don't,esp in inner city dep't.
they dont have to qualify? bullshit.
SO you think the average citizen is better trained to use a fireamr then an average police officer. Your nuts, delusional, and a liar.
POPO work, sound to me like you were a crossing guard
Get back in your hole boy.And yes PO PO,that's slang term.And yes,inner city police.So yes dick head,i was at one time a twice a yr shooter.However,not anymore.See jackoff,im telling the truth.Now,get back in your fuckin hole and start over.
And here you are again, adding nothing to the discussion but angry insults and zealous hand-waving without a single iota of data to back up your empty assertions. You just know that the police are well-trained and the average gun owner is an idiot, therefore they are.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/elite-cops-nypd-emergency-service-unit-fire-stray-rounds-months-article-1.137846
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeGD7r6s-zU
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-camarillo-secret-service-shot,0,9688.story
^SS no less
A nice summary:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2567680
Let me save you the trouble of a response. Since I disagree with you and have the audacity to back up my disagreement, I'm therefore a crazy gun-waving right-wing redneck who hates Obama and liberals and regularly stomps puppies to death to sate my bloodlust.
sure
As far as I can tell you are the only ones that are talking about them. However, so long as you brought it up, how about enforcing existing laws for a change. Here is something else you might want to go read up on as well - independent responsibility.
HPD officers no longer need to qualify as physically fit. All the officer must do is sign a statement/waiver that he/she believes he/she can do the job. Thank the public employee unions when a lard ass must chase down your child's kidnapper.
get over yourself tough guy, you aint Batman, you aint Rambo. You aint nothing special. Even our miltary has found that during heavy firefights, the majority THE MAJORITY of soldiers do not even fire their fucking weapon.
That may have been true in previous wars with conscripted soldiers. I don't think that's the case anymore.
Where do I claim to be rambo idiot? With tactical guided weapons of all sorts, the soldier you describe has been outdated for some time. The discussion is not about the theater of war, but rather a residential setting. Are you saying you want soldiers in your neighborhood? Are you just that stupid or do you have a hard time staying on point? Yet another stupid fucking sheep, if that is your point then you prove it well, the "average" person is an idiot.
wow cant follow the logic, not surprised. The point here sparky is that trained soldiers in a theater of war arent reliable during firefights, yet you think armed Rambo wannabees roaming our streets would be, if things went bad fast? your are a deluded nut. Armed citizens in that theater last night would of just a very bad situation even worse. Thats the point genius.
Where did I say that the folks in the theater should have been armed? In that situation, the gunman really can't hit shit. Getting out would be the correct path (although having someone providing cover could be beneficial if they were properly trained). Try to stay on topic and not make up things the other person said. It simple make you look stupid. I say nothing about "rambos" . Chance favors the prepared mind. practice and training are the only things that make you better at anything. this is what I am advocating moron, but hey at least you got the genius right, thanks.
as compared to the average citizen, police are "highly" trained in the use of firearms.
You represent a huge problem in America today. Just totally useless in all regard.
Show me the data on that. You are talking out your ass. Many communities are very fitness-oriented idiot. What's that saying again about real-estate, location, location, location. Stupid fucking sheep.
That’s the finding of the latest Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index, which shows that 63.1% of adults in the U.S. were either overweight or obese in 2009.
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and its getting worse, sorry to pop you bubble bat-boy
Link? If it is real- a drug company, sponsors a survey that concludes we are unhealthy? Suprise suprise. Never would have seen that coming. You better go buy some more medication then. Go look up independent reasponsibility, maybe you'll get it.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20100210/percentage-of-overweight-obese-americans-swells
web-md. You are embarrassing. Christ an arrogant know nothing bat man wannabe. Your mom must be so proud.
"Body mass index (BMI) is a common measure of body fat based on height and weight."
"A BMI of 30 or greater is considered obese, overweight if it’s between 25-29.9, normal if it’s 18.5-24.9, and underweight if it’s less than 18.5."
"The report concludes that obesity is still on the rise and that reversing this trend may require the involvement of communities, businesses, and governments."
LoL
What an intellectual response (because everything on the web is true), yet I am embarrassing. Just what do you have against fat people anyway and their choices? So, put you down for another sheeple in favor of the nanny state, or are you going actually address the issue of independent responsibility?
we arent talking about responsiblity, we are talking about fact. I know facts are a foreign concept to you, but try to keep up sport.
Right, the fact the many people have made bad choices regarding their health. Clear enough for you now? You should try to "keep up."
Let me guess, because they made bad choices you probably want the healthy folks to pay for their health care? Thanks for showing your true colors and good luck with that.
Welcome to bunker police state America.
Something smells fishy. Shooter has no police record, no mental health issues, clean guy all around. So, how do you go from that to putting sophisticated bobby-traps in your apartment, to coordinating a mass shooting. Remember he called someone inside the theater to open the door to let him in per witness statements. Another Manchurian candidate.
It just means he was a smart, disciplined, well-prepared sociopath. He was smart enough to keep his mouth shut, smart enough to not get in trouble with the police, and smart enough to understand that you don't have to be a good citizen to fool most people, you just have to ACT like one...
it's called a false flag Nugget
he probably works for Holder, part of fast'nfurious
real guys like that go out in a blaze of glory (in their minds at least)
they don't change their minds half way through and think,
"gee, what I'm doing is wrong, I better turn myself into the police"
bye bye 2nd amendment!
And just what they needed with the U.N. gun ban signing coming up in a week. I dont believe any of these stories on their face.
ding ding ding.
However, there IS plausible deniability... these guys do things for reasons unknown, regardless of their publicly known backgrounds... my guess is that there has been some severe and unreported trauma in his not too distant past... (probably causing anti-depressant use) but who knows.
Realistically, jail might even be better than the reality many of the young people of this country will face over the foreseeable future... of course, he's a piece of shit for doing what he did... it's not his choice to make for other people...
Wrong.
The reason was not "Unknown"
He was paid to do it, so that our evil government can brainwash people into letting them take our weapons away from us.
IS IT REALLY THAT DIFFICULT TO SEE THROUGH THE FALSE MEDIA?
paid? what do you pay someone to get life in prison/the death penalty? You're going to have to come up with something better...
I leave my home locked and loaded and end up locked up! The policeare against the vigilanties almost as much as the kooks.
look in the mirror.... you=kook
You didn't even read his post you troll! He's agreeing with you. Damn..
Go back to reddit
perhaps, but many here I would guess dont equate vigilante to kook as you or I may.
The first thing people should do is get out of urban areas and not look back.
love to leave,$$$$$$$ issue.ASAP i will.