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Facebook's Fecal Finger

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It wasn't long ago at all - just a few months, really - that Facebook was christened as the salvation of the Silicon Valley. Everyone wanted to work there; everybody wanted a piece of their IPO; everyone dreamed of how rich they could get if they could get just a little slice of the social media pie with their own three-person startup backed by $5 million in venture funding.

Things have changed quite a bit. With Facebook's stock now at a 50% loss (measured against its high, set within minutes of the May 18th initial public offering), it's becoming clear that just about every entity - human, corporate, and the way things are going, perhaps even extraterrestrial - that touches Facebook gets the zap put on them. Off the top of my head:

+ Zynga - whose stock is down over 80% from its own high, having attached itself to the Facebook star and the promise of Earth's population playing FarmVille for the rest of their lives;

+ NASDAQ - which is still struggling to come up with a huge payoff to the affiliated parties that lost so much money by participating in one of the highest-visibility IPOs in history;

+ Broker/Dealers - such as Knight Capital, which lost tens of millions of dollars be being involved with the completely botched IPO;

+ The Investing Public - which has lost billions and billions (best said in a Carl Sagan voice) by jumping on to the FB bandwagon;

+ Newer Facebook Employees - There is a caste system already in place in Menlo Park at the Facebook headquarters, located just a couple of miles from where I'm sitting. The brahmin are those who showed up early and have secured their billions (or hundreds of millions) by being at the right place at the right time. The untouchables are the poor slobs who came on board more recently and whose options are deeply underwater. The rich kids might decide just to take their fortunes with them; the rest of the employees will realize that they are pretty much working For Just A Salary (instead of guaranteed millions from the explosively successful FB options) and might feel a skosh resentful.

+ SecondMarket, SharesPost, and their ilk - Surely you recall how much press and attention these web sites were getting - - accredited investors got the privilege (!) of buying stock in firms like Twitter and Facebook from other individuals. I don't recall where Facebook peaked pre-IPO, but it at well over twice the current public market price.

+ Startups - Lastly, the bloom's fairly well off the rose here in the Silicon Valley with respect to social startups. After all, if the cream of the crop like Facebook has become a worldwide embarassment, what sort of appeal does yet another three-person firm of 21 year old kids have?

Of course, I think all of this is actually pretty healthy. The lunacy around Facebook was getting completely ridiculous, and now as Facebook confronts reality and recognizes that the suck part of being public is actually having accountability to shareholders, maybe they'll focus on creating products that are at once popular, useful, and very profitable. Suffice it to say that a lot of folks owning FB have decided that they're in it for the long haul at this point. They don't really have much of a choice.

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Fri, 07/27/2012 - 21:32 | 2658436 Earl of Chiswick
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who's LOWELL?  or is that Yo-rEl-ko?

 

 

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:07 | 2657526 JuicedGamma
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Hey ZUCKER

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:04 | 2657505 LFMayor
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GODDAMN!  Must be autumn or early winter there, she's storing fat in her thighs

So that's what a billion dollars gets you?  Fuck it, I'll stay broke. 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:39 | 2657712 indio007
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That's not a man?

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:09 | 2657204 MillionDollarBoner_
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Wonder how many people have "Unfriend"ed Suckerberg since the IPO...

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:04 | 2657187 HardAssets
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I'm surprise FB gets so much attention. Did anybody actually buy this ?  Like buying a turd with a hidden microphone in it.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:18 | 2657228 whstlblwr
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Hell yes, you want to hear about it? I bought it first at $40, a small amount, then averaged with $27. Sold half at around $32, just bought more and I'll wait. If it goes to $15, I'll buy more.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:34 | 2657301 HardAssets
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What if it goes to $ 5 ?

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:49 | 2657401 whstlblwr
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I'll cry.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:08 | 2657538 JuicedGamma
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Real men don't cry, they kick some ass!

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:00 | 2657171 MillionDollarBoner_
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"Suffice it to say that a lot of folks owning FB have decided that they're in it for the long haul at this point. They don't really have much of a choice."

What do you call a failed trade?

An investment ;o)

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:08 | 2657547 JuicedGamma
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That's when your trade becomes an investment, stupid argument.  Dump it and move on.

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:16 | 2656914 TrumpXVI
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Here in my lab, I've been vocal about FB being utterly worthless from the beginning.

Some of the dopier people around here STILL think that I'm the one who doesn't get it.  They tell me that I'm not sociable enough and wouldn't understand the value in a company like FB.  Good grief!

(and never mind that I spent over twenty years in PR and advertising and very definitely DO get it).

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:59 | 2656840 indio007
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I blog about Facebook's success from Myspace!

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:07 | 2656878 whstlblwr
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Corporates would love facebook to go away. All those people sharing what they don't like is the problem.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:11 | 2656899 TrainWreck1
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Corporations LOVE FB, especially for screening (and termnation with cause at the ready, if there is FB time on company computers).

Check out what HireRight does with client workers' social data. It's a gold mine.

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:16 | 2656923 whstlblwr
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So what use facebook for sharing opinions, connections and not at work. Don't be stupid. Are you stupid?

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:55 | 2656814 Downtoolong
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Newer Facebook Employees

 

Yep. Been there, done that too. There’s nothing better to rile a little resentment like working right next to a new-money someone who is just exactly like you in every way; credentials, intelligence, productivity, ideas, performance, etc., etc. Except lucky for them, they just arrived before you, or were just in the right place at the right time.

 

It’s probably a case of age discrimination for me to say further that it probably doesn’t help when that new-money someone is fresh out of school, and you started working in your field of expertise before they were born. So sue me.  

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:56 | 2656823 whstlblwr
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Waa, waa, waaaa. Life is unfair. Waaa.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:46 | 2656778 john146
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government tracking device.  military weapon created to monitor, track and store data.

the forced technology will fail ...wakeup all you robots holding your handheld devices.  diseased and clueless of it

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:41 | 2657340 azzhatter
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yep, perfect tool of the government and all the useful idiots that participate

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:56 | 2656806 whstlblwr
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Do you mean it's a device for us to communicate with people to track the government?

All this facebook bashing is LOL. Fucking 500M users a day. OK.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:03 | 2656863 TrainWreck1
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And quality users they are. Big spenders, turning to FB for all their shopping needs.

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:09 | 2656893 whstlblwr
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I've bought some shit from a facebook link. But it doesn't matter. Where are the quality shoppers. The Hamptons? LOL.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:57 | 2657148 SAT 800
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You're a little reminder of why there really isn't any hope. Go ahead, vote for Odumbo again; I don't care, I'm going to New Zealand.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:21 | 2657247 whstlblwr
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I'm not waiting around to vote, I'm in local elections and going to Tampa.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:14 | 2656908 TrainWreck1
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Most are at work. Not fermenting on a couch playing FarmVille. Oh look! Cheezy Gravy Fries are now available for delivery in economical pallets!

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:46 | 2656777 john146
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government tracking device.  military weapon created to monitor, track and store data.

the forced technology will fail ...wakeup all you robots holding your handheld devices.  diseased and clueless of it

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:42 | 2657337 HardAssets
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Yeah . . . FB and the ipod might be spies that make it easier to follow our every GPS pinpointed daily activity . . . but who cares about Liberty when youre 'trendy' ?

long  'trendy'

short Liberty

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:44 | 2656761 Yohimbo
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Its all worthless, sell, sell, sell

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:01 | 2656849 TrainWreck1
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Would be nfty to post a list of the analysts calling FB anything above a sell. Then see how they did after 8/19/12. The opening stampede to unload on Monday morning should be a sight to behold.

Personally, I am changing my recommendation from "Strong Sell" to "Flee"

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:25 | 2656669 Sylvia Plath
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I wonder how Mark can go into work everyday and face those he himself has screwed over with his own greed.... 

No wonder he got married young.... wonder if wifey purchased some FB puts as part of the prenup!

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:59 | 2656838 TrainWreck1
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The last thing guys like this do is go in and hang with the troops. They show up (or not) and disappear into the office for a conference call with investors, maybe plot a new scheme (hey! let's change EVERYTHING!) then it's off to the golf course or some trendy restaurant.

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:23 | 2656659 BeetleBailey
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FartBukkake...this shit stock is destined for 5 bucks or lower.

These douches will not be able to create squat, and even if, their "loyal" users will balk at paying them anything.

After all, this douche company's motto is "It's Free, and It Always Will Be"

...asinine.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:06 | 2656585 TrainWreck1
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She better divorce him while his net worth is still in the stratosphere.

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:19 | 2656637 ElvisDog
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Why did Zuckerberg get married? It's like a superstar athlete getting married while in the prime of their career. It would be more fun to enjoy women throwing themselves at you for a few more years.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:46 | 2657092 All Out Of Bubblegum
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"Why did Zuckerberg get married?"

 

It's a cover. An openly gay CEO isn't good for biz.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:02 | 2657178 SAT 800
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God, did you see the "wife?".  The dude has got to be 127% Gay.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:44 | 2656764 TrainWreck1
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The only thing women will throw themselves at is his wallet.

Once she squirts out 5 or 8 heirs, they wll embark on a world tour, lecturing all about the need for population control.

 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:39 | 2656740 haskelslocal
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Didn't he get married the day after the IPO? Which would sepeate all his FB wealth from the marriage wealth?

Seems to be he's been living in a bubble for so long, any congigal visit is worth the comittment.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:22 | 2656657 Metalredneck
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Trying to show shareholders he is as intelligent as they are.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 10:55 | 2656539 Cursive
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I won't argue with much that Tim has to say except that it's not at all healthy that we have capital markets that allow pump and dump schemes like this to exist.  The whole thing is a sham and designed to take retail money from lemmings who have been conditioned to seek returns on risky assets since Treasury yields are being suppressed via monetization, sterilized or otherwise.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:46 | 2657376 HardAssets
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Retail lemmings buy what they know . . . which is crap.

So they buy crap.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 10:54 | 2656538 spanish inquisition
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It has to be done - Monkey smelling finger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzZqje04vLE

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 12:34 | 2657029 lasvegaspersona
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I doubt I'll see a more profound response today.

Once again the class clown makes the most sense.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 10:45 | 2656506 mrktwtch2
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its 1999 again.. the village.com= znga..pets.com=groupon..aol= facebook..etc

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 10:45 | 2656502 optimator
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No cream, no sugar please.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 10:44 | 2656499 otto skorzeny
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their kids will be HIDEOUS. although it is good to see the Jews setting their sites on the next parasitic host body-China

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:42 | 2656753 Yohimbo
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+10

 

unlike the americans, the chinese will execute the conspiring geulos military style

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