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Clipboard02 What Would Jesus Do with Bankers? Anthony Freda/Daniel Zollinger

Preface:  If you are an atheist and believe that religion is crazy, please remember that some 85% of the American population identifies itself as Christian and millions more identify themselves as Jewish.  Very few Americans are atheists … and the majority don’t trust atheists.

The head of Goldman Sachs said he’s doing “God’s work” with his banking activities.

The head of Barclays also told his congregation that banking as practiced by his company was not antithetical to Christian principles.

Are they right? Is big banking as practiced by the giant banks in harmony with Christian principles?

Do Justice

Initially, the Bible does not counsel us to ignore the breaking of laws by the the powerful.

In fact, the Bible mentions justice over 200 times — more than just about any other topic. The Bible asks us to do justice and to stand up to ANYONE — including the rich or powerful — who do injustice or oppress the people.

Indeed, one of the first things God asks of us is to do justice:

He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God? (Micah 6:8)

While many churches and synagogues have become obsessed with other issues, many have arguably ignored this most important of God’s demands of us. As pointed out by a leading Christian ministry, which rescues underage girls trapped as sex slaves in third world countries:

In Scripture there is a constant call to seek justice. Jesus got upset at the Pharisees because they neglected the weightier matters of the law, which He defined as justice and the love of God . . . Isaiah 58 complains about the fact that while the people of God are praying and praying and praying, they are not doing anything about the injustice.

Should Christians just pray for justice and leave the rest to God?

That’s not what the Bible asks us to do. Instead, Hebrews 11:33 tells us that we are God’s hands for dispensing justice, and God uses us to “administer justice.”

We have to “walk our talk” and put our prayers into action.

God demands that we do everything in our power to act as “God’s hands” in bringing justice. And as Saint Augustine reminds us, “Charity is no substitute for justice withheld.”

Indeed:

The Lord looked and was displeased that there was no justice. He saw that there was no one, He was appalled that there was no one to intervene. (Isaiah 59:15-16)

This is the only place in the Bible where the word “appalled” is used for the way God feels — in other words, the only thing which we know God is appalled by is if people are not doing justice.

There are hundreds of other references to justice in the Bible, including:

  • Blessed are they who maintain justice . . . . (Psalm 106:3)
  • This is what the LORD says: Maintain justice and do what is right . . . . (Isiah 56:1)
  • This is what the LORD says: Do what is just and right. (Jeremiah 22:3,13-17)
  • Follow justice and justice alone. (Deuteronomy 16:19, 20)
  • For the LORD is righteous, he loves justice . . . . (Job 11:5,7)
  • Learn to do right! Seek justice . . . . (Isaiah 1:17)

So if the powerful players in the giant banks broke the laws, they must be held to account.

Fraud and Manipulation of Money

The big banks have engaged in systemic, continuous ongoing criminal fraud.

Allowing the banks to commit crime with impunity is not what Jesus would do.  What would Jesus do?  Turn over the tables of the money-changers. (economists agree.)

Moreover, the giant banks manipulate currency through the use of schemes such as manipulating interest rates (gaming interest rates in different regions – Libor, Eurobor, etc. – can in turn drive their currencies up or down),  high frequency trading and artificially suppressing gold prices (which artificially inflates the value of fiat money) .

As Ron Paul notes, the Bible forbids altering the quality of money (which, at the time and place, was entirely in the form of coins):

Even the Bible is clear that altering the quality of money is an immoral act. We are instructed to follow the rules of “just weights and measures.” “You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume. You shall have just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin” (Leviticus 19:35-36). “Diverse weights are an abomination to the LORD, and a false balance is not good” (Proverbs 20:23). The general principle can be summed as “You shall not steal.”

Proverbs 11:1 also provides:

Dishonest scales are an abomination to the LORD, but a just weight is His delight.

So to the extent that the giant banks have engaged in any dishonest acts or the manipulation of currencies, they are violating scripture.

Oppression of the Poor

Finally, the Bible condemns oppression of the poor for the benefit of the affluent:

He that oppresses the poor to increase his riches, and he that gives to the rich, shall surely come to want. (Proverbs 22:16)

To the extent that the giant banks have oppressed the poor to increase their riches, they are violating scripture.

Due to their looting, inequality is now worse in American than in  Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, most Latin American banana republics  … and ancient Rome.

Postscript: Not all bankers are bad people. For example, many bankers at smaller banks and credit unions are good people who are trying to help their communities.  Each must be judged by his own acts.

 


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Wed, 08/01/2012 - 12:05 | Link to Comment Element
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Jesus of today would not be pissing about making a whip.  He's have a woodchipper.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 09:55 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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I don't agree with everything presented in this, but it's an interesting input to consider:

 

THE SYNARCHY

 


JUDEO-CHRISTIAN THEOCRACY

FRONTS FOR INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTEL

 


Synarchy...is government by secret societies,

or by a group of initiates who operate from behind the scenes. 

It is an analogue of theocracy, or rule by a priesthood.

~ Marquis Alexandre Saint-Yves dAlveydre

 

 

 

link: http://watch.pair.com/synarchy-5.html

 


There will be some gnashing of teeth from the Rand/libertarian acolytes if they read further down into this article...specifically:

 

Rand was born Alisa Zinov’yevna Rosenbaum in St. Petersburg, Russia, in 1905... Ayn Rand came to America from Russia presenting herself as if a radical anti-Communist. Hers was the typical modus operandi of Bolshevik operatives working for an official Soviet organization known as The Trust. These agents, many of them crypto-Jews, came to the West in search of anti-Communists and infiltrated anti-Communist organizations and Western intelligence agencies. Their objective was to forward the interests of Communism by creating a controlled opposition to Communism which would serve the interests of the Communists while pretending to fight them. They also subverted all authentic anti-Communist movements.



Rand promoted negative stereotypes of women, attacked homosexuals, advocated laissez faire Capitalism, and taught selfishness and disregard for humanity. She opposed charity and objected to any governmental assistance for those without means. She wanted to place America on the ruinous Gold Standard.

 


Rosenbaum’s good advice to the blacks only held them back by preventing them from using the political process to forward their interests. Her good advice to the Goyim only held the Gentiles back, by making them selfish and irresponsible, and also by preventing them from using their government to better themselves and their neighbors. She taught the Gentiles to hate the poor, undermine the middle class and concentrate wealth in the hands of the wealthiest Jews, all in the name of fighting Communism. Her good advice pitted Goys against one another at the time when they should have been helping one another to become successful. She taught Gentiles to shun any efforts to cooperate in their communities and improve the lot of one another.

 


While Jews famously provided communal support and charitable assistance for their own, Rosenbaum helped to create the destructive me generation attitudes in Americans, which undermined the good nature of Christianity, weakened communities and inhibited the advancement of the poor and middle class. Her beliefs also fostered the drug culture, pornography and the destruction of public education. While Jews promoted strong community ties, Rosenbaum taught the Goyim to be selfish and independent, meaning without any sense of social responsibility or communal cohesion.

 


While Jews wisely took from the public schools all they could, Frederick T. Gates, an agent of World Jewry, used Rockefeller/ Rothschild money to finance institutions of higher learning which benefited Jews, while promoting the idea that Gentile students should be readied for factory work and work as field hands and farmers. While World Jewry took the monies they stole from Gentiles and distributed them charitably to their own, Rosenbaum taught Gentiles to abandon all social responsibility, obsessively focus on themselves, and destroy all government institutions which better the lot of the American middle class and poor.

 


Alisa Rosenbaums anti-Communist philosophies weakened Americans opening the door for Communism. I suspect she was an agent of The Trust.”  (“Ron Paul, ‘Ayn Rand’ and ‘The Trust’”)

 

 

The parts I bolded in that excerpt are what I find most interesting, and I've had those general ideas verified by other sources. One should read the whole thing and decide for themselves if it's just internet bullshit.

 

What I don't agree with here(from watch.pair.com) is that I no longer personally believe that  'real Christianity' is the answer to all problems.

 

Maybe I too have been subverted by some controlled opposition. But from what I've read, even before Christianity became infused with judeo-christianity there were too many loose ends and unanswered questions about the rise of that religion, and to whose ends and interests it actually served. I'd like to think that it's the result of my own personal thought process thinking through all the inputs(things such as who decided which books would comprise what would come to be accepted as "The Bible" and why) I've had since I began to question what I was raised to beLIEve.

 

Here is another source on synarchy not connected with watch.pair.com as far as I can tell:

 

 

BOOK IV ***** 
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 13:37 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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I, too, have read parts of "The Synarchy", and it certainly is mind-blowing and preconception-challenging!

Thanks for the link.  Everyone should read it if only to challenge themselves.  The thinking behind it is high-level critical thinking, and steps on many toes, which can be productive.

As far as Christianity goes, I make a stark separation between "Christian religion" and the true "personal faith in Christ", the former ALWAYS becoming corrupted and bastardized when institutionalized.

The revolutinary aspect of Jesus was his act of making an end-run around the middlemen, the "priest class", and creating the reality(and necessity) of man's access directly to God, through Him, the incorruptible link.  I think that is what the article means by "true Christianity".

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 09:46 | Link to Comment dontgoforit
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Well written, GW.  Good job.  I'm with you on this one.  There is always gonna be 'hell to pay' once the bill comes due.  Hopefully the wise who fear God for his unimaginable power will act accordingly in this life.  Kindness and justice should translate into better behavior by humans for humans, but as history has shown us over and over, it's not always the case.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 08:35 | Link to Comment Money 4 Nothing
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"What Would Jesus Do with Bankers?"

 

I believe this story is already covered in the Bible.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 08:29 | Link to Comment booboo
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Bankers= Benches. The "benchers"  set up around the temple to catch the Goyim crawling by so I think that the Rabbi was cool with it. Nothing has changed.  

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 08:25 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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Maybe it's Jesus that's cutting some of their profits and earnings? /s

 

"Societe Generale 2nd quarter earns slump"

 

"Deutsche Bank to cut 1,900 jobs as profits drop"

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 07:06 | Link to Comment Heroic Couplet
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With all due respect: Then can we please.....please.....not just lower taxes on the rich? PLEASE...let's eliminate them entirely NOW! People need jobs and they need them now - and since it's obvious that there aren't more jobs because the rich are choked by high taxes, let's not wait for the jobs that will come by lowering their taxes - we need the jobs that will come by eliminating their taxes entirely!

NO TAXES FOR THE WEALTHY NOW! THE JOBS CAN'T WAIT! /End of Republican bullcrap

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 09:54 | Link to Comment Nehweh Gahnin
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Was waiting for the "sarc off" and didn't get it.  Not sure how this fits with the article either, so it's looking like proselytizing.  It would be curious to see what twisted chain of logic leads to the linkage b/w not taxing the wealthy at all and jobs creation, but I hear there's something going down at the moneychangers' temple today, so I gotta run.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 06:55 | Link to Comment headless blogger
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Will JC turn the other cheek if we cut some of their heads off? State sanctioned saws, for Caesars sake.

 

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 07:08 | Link to Comment NuYawkFrankie
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What would Jesus do? What would Lloyd & Jamie Do?

 

8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan!...."

- Matthew 4:8-10 New King James Version

 

8 Again, the devil took Jamie of Dimona up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to him, “All these things I will destroy for you - so that ye may procureth a Billion-Dollar Bonus- if  if you will fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jamie did reply, “Holy camel-shit Satan, this sounds like one helluva deal! Sign me up Big Guy! For, as my brethren at the Golden Calf of Sachs sayeth 'Verily - We Are Doing God's Work - and this be our just reward! Who can come against us?'"

- Lloyd 4:8-10 Wall St Revised Version

 

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 07:46 | Link to Comment TrustWho
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...I am afraid Jamie reflects us all. We need leadership that acts and talks to our better angels. When our justice system preys on the poor and disadvantaged and helps the powerful and advantaged break the law as they steal from the poor and disadvantaged, HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

America has sacrificed the lives of young people to support the above. If people are willing to die, we must bring light to the wrong deeds of the powerful, and hold these criminals accountable.  Justice is first derivative of religions, because without justice a civilization falls apart.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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Our society has become a bit more complex, it's not just about leaders but it is also about media and education.

To have a "full" understanding of these issues you have to have a fairly decent education.  And given what we are churning out of college, your education will be gained out of the "hollowed institutions"....

The media has to report "fact based" events not propaganda.

Not going to happen at this time.

The US of A is the new Third Reich.

“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Sir Winston Churchill
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 07:13 | Link to Comment stocktivity
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Jesus would offer Jamie and the boys a glass of wine and some bread. Jamie and the boys would drink and eat it, ask for more, then trick Jesus into handing over his money.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Tricking Jesus into handing over his money was tried and failed.  "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's..."

Thu, 08/02/2012 - 04:25 | Link to Comment RichardP
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Since Caesar is not around anymore, perhaps we should put it in an escrow account??

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 05:54 | Link to Comment eddiebe
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No disrespect, but the real question is: What are we doing?

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 08:31 | Link to Comment madcows
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Nothing, you are powerless against TPTB.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 08:36 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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'Americanism' has secured the ruling elite.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 06:19 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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Honestly? What we are doing here is nothing but venting. Myself included...

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 07:46 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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US citizen freedom of speech style...

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Poor Grogman
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 Tibetan citizen = no  freedom of speech

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 04:22 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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There were moneychangers in temples long before the Jesus man came around...and they've been there long after he left. Sure the appearances and purposes of the temples may have appeared to change since the olden days, but appearances can be deceiving.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 05:13 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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sure but when jesus came around the temple he whipped the moneychangers in the face.

 

anytime you see a bankster, act like jesus like a good christian and whip banksters in the face.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 04:20 | Link to Comment terryfuckwit
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sorry folks no third party mythalogical characters gonna save the day or provide any retribution for you... time for big boys pants

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 04:17 | Link to Comment Conax
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I wonder if atheists dress their dearly departed in their best suit for their burial.

It's a waste-

They're all dressed up with no place to go.

Kidding aside, it must be a stark and cold world they live in. I imagine most of them are affluent and healthy, since the sick and the poor keep a line open to the Boss.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 07:53 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Well, actually, the kidding should address abrahamic religious people first.

Atheists can easily (and rightly) justify their actions as being selfish, to help them going through the mourning period. Nobody is hurt since the dead is dead and over. And dressing the corpse properly will help the living to feel better.

People who think that the dead are departed for a better world, free from materialistic concerns, are in demand for sane justification. Why would you dress somebody in that case? Dresses are unneeded and a strain on the remaining people who might have used the required wealth invested in a non sensical action to better their life on Earth, which is difficult and much worse than the ones that is expected them in the netherwold.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 02:35 | Link to Comment Tommy Gunner
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If I meet someone and at some point they admint to believing in god.  I lose all respect for them intellectually.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 11:55 | Link to Comment Boxed Merlot
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Interesting response.  I've felt I've been dismissed by others when I let it be known my conviction on the veracity of the canonized books of the bible.  

I've found most people I know who profess no tangible belief in God are equally nebulous on their perception of "evil".  They are typically reluctant to call violations of law as "bad" because they view the law as a transient man made device.  The term "law-makers" infers the ability to change the definition of good / bad, right / wrong and ultimately "evil".  When pushed to the extreme however, it's very difficult to find anyone fully dedicated to the proposition that evil does not exist and must be dealt with in some fashion or other.  Hence the application of justice.

 Violating personal property rights was considered "evil".  The Justice taught describes it as not taking into account the socio-economic status of anyone when charged with evil.  

The basis of this is because God is no respector of persons, hence the law is to be applied straight across the board as well.  As people, however, we are to give honor to those to whom it is due, respect to those, etc.  This is not the same as penalties or reward / awards as assigned by the law.  A poor person is to recieve no special treatment because they are poor either.  To do so violates the nature of justice as well. 

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 06:01 | Link to Comment Jeff Lebowski
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I do the same with spelling and grammar.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 02:47 | Link to Comment Colonel
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Well you're in... bad company.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 02:23 | Link to Comment Colonel
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Banksters and alot of their puppet politicians are Hell bound scum, their Day of Reckoning is nigh. Pray for the destruction of organizations like the fed,Citi,Goldman,BAC.

 And no I am not "pleased to meet you". >:-(

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 02:09 | Link to Comment Joe A
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If you are a follower of J.C., you should live like him. Protect the downtrodden, give up your wealth, live with the poor and the sick, etc. I don't see many christians doing that in the US or anywhere else. Practice what you preach. Your god will judge you for what you did in life. Christ said something like: what you have done to the least of me, you have done to me. Think about that next time you turn down a beggar on the street or trash the poor on blogs. Remember, god sees all!

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 05:19 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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All that changed when it became 'Judeo-Christianity'

 

It is certain that Senator Joseph McCarthy did much research on the Communist conspiracy. He came too close when he discovered British Israel and its Kingdom Message propaganda. The following quotes are from an article with the title: GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER:

"And many of the people of the land became Jews." Esther 9:17. "The confession of General Cornwallis to General Washington at Yorktown has been well hidden by historians. History books and text books have taught for years that when Cornwallis surrendered his army to General Washington that American independence came, and we lived happily ever after until the tribulations of the twentieth century."

"Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown." Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry." And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army.

"Cornwallis well knew that his military defeat was only the beginning of world catastrophe that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished through a false religion. What he predicted has come to pass. A brief sketch of American religious history and we have seen Masonry infused into every church in America With their veiled Phallic religion.

"Darby and the Plymouth Brethren brought a Jewish Christianity to America. Masons Rutherford and Russell started Jehovah Witnesses' Judaism which is now worldwide with their message of the divine kingdom. Mason Joseph Smith started Mormon Judaism with its Jewish teaching of millennialism.

"At the turn of the twentieth century there appeared the Scofield Bible with a Jewish interpretation of the prophecies. With wide use of this "helpful" aid all the American churches have silently become synagogues. We now have Baptist Jews, Methodist Jews, Church of God Jews, apostate Catholic Jews, and many Protestant Jews throughout America. We are aliens in our own country because of false religion. All are praying for divine deliverance into that "Divine Government" which Cornwallis knew to be the British Empire.

"A false religion has been used to deceive us into allegiance to our enemies of Yorktown and Bunker Hill. No! Not a gun has been fired but the invisible and malignant process of conquering America with the Jew's religion has gone on unabated. The Union Jack has been planted in our hearts with religious deception. All has happened "legally," "constitutionally," "freely" and completely within our most sacred trust -- our churches. Religious deception is painless innoculation against truth. It cannot be removed from the conscience with surgery, yet it is the motivator of our actions and directly controls our lives. Once man gives over to false religion, he is no longer rational because he originates no thought. His life is controlled by whomever controls his religion.

"The veil of false religion is the sword of Damocles and its power to control humanity defies even the imagination of tyrants who use it."

"This is not to say that George Washington was a traitor willingly, or knowingly. He was beguiled into a Satanic religious order that insidiously controls men's minds. So have American statesmen and military leaders down through the years given aid and allegiance to the enemies of the United States because they did not have knowledge of the invisible subterfuge that stalks this land. My eyes were opened the day my colleague from Ohio handed me Wagner's FREEMASONRY AN INTERPRETATION. If every American would read it, they would no longer ask why and how it has happened." 

Given by Senator Joseph McCarthy, six months before his mouth was closed forever.

End of quote from GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER.


link:  http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unionjack_epilogue.htm

 

And now you know why Sen. Joe McCarthy is still so demonized by the establishment to this day.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:50 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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This US citizen propagandist at it once again, trying to mix a system of justice and justice itself.

It is well known that after 236years running, the 'American' system of justice only conveys injustice with slavers and robbers being rewarded while freedom and right to property is proclaimed.

US citizen propagandist (redundancy) is trying to sell that Jesus stood for justice and not to enforce a system of justice he found convenient.

Speaking of freedom, and to see how the confusion between justice and a system of justice is driven in this article, why no quotes by Jesus Christ on how he dealt with slavery? Obedience?

As to oppressing the poor, US citizenism is classwarfare and the poor are used by the middle class as a stepping stone to increase and maintain their US citizen standard of life.

This US citizen author is unable to deal with the reality of US citizenism and has to get recourse of fantasy (here the christian religion) in order to mediate between himself and reality.

He cant do otherwise because such is the US citizen nature, and it is eternal.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 10:05 | Link to Comment Poor Grogman
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Free Tibet!

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:01 | Link to Comment Ray Bones
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Jesus overturned the money changers' tables not because of what they were doing, but becuase of where they were doing it: in the temple, God's house. 

 

Georgie, you're dangerously mixing religion and politics, and when you do that, all you get is politics. Stay out of the temple.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:25 | Link to Comment WAMO556
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@ray..... Wrong! Jesus just didn't turn over the money changers tables (HIS only act of recorded violence btw), he overturned their tables and chased them out of the temple for the OVERPRICING of the sacrifice, remember what day it was that this happened??? Retread your scripture buddy!!,

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:43 | Link to Comment Ray Bones
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Well, gee, I retread (sic) it, and , guess what: I'm right!

“‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’[e] but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’[f]

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 00:47 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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JESUS IN MANHATTAN

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:06 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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I don't know Banzai...he looks like one of those socialist Occupy Wall Street Hippies. Can he be trusted? Is he even republican? Something fishy here....

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 00:41 | Link to Comment Reese Bobby
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Brave Post GW.  It made me thing of the following quote, although I have no need for arguments like this to confirm my Faith:

"And, of course, that raises a very big question. If a good God made the world why has it gone wrong?
And for many years I simply refused to listen to the Christian answers to this question, because I kept
on feeling "whatever you say, and however clever your arguments are, isn't it much simpler and easier
to say that the world was not made by any intelligent power? Aren't all your arguments simply a
complicated attempt to avoid the obvious?" But then that threw me back into another difficulty.
My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this
idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line.
What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and
senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in
such violent reaction against it? A man feels wet when he falls into water, because man is not a water
animal: a fish would not feel wet.
Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my
own. But if I did that, then my argument against God collapsed too— for the argument depended on
saying that the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my private fancies.
Thus in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist—in other words, that the whole of reality
was senseless—I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality—namely my idea of justice—was full of sense.
Consequently atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should
never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and
therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning."

C.S. Lewis - "Mere Christianity"

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 00:36 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Q: What do Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, an Honest Banker and Jesus have in common?

A: they are all FIGMENTS OF YOUR FUCKING IMAGINATION!!!!!

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 00:49 | Link to Comment Jesus Christ
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Time for the gloves to come off. Aliens are physically embodied fallen angels. You want to believe an alien telling you that I am not real? I offer life. Aliens want to breed with you to steal human DNA. Steal life. Good luck with that.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 00:58 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Unleash the unicorns!!!!

"And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness."

— Isaiah 34:7

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:10 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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Wild Oxen, not Unicorns, was the first and correct translation.

"Unicorns" was introduced in the King James Bible in the 1600's.  The King James Bible has a lot of problems for example "serving the earthly authorities (the King)" and not God in other places.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:11 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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what can I tell ya...my Aramaic is a little rusty.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:31 | Link to Comment Jesus Christ
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Real rusty. It's Hebrew, not Aramaic.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 01:38 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Does it really matter what language a fairy tale is written in? In the end...it's still a fuckin fairy tale.

Thu, 08/02/2012 - 00:31 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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And the truth will always stand, against all things. If you need proof, closely look at the creation and his creatures. It's all there.

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