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Major General: Why Are Domestic Government Agencies Purchashing Enough Lethal Ammunition to Put 5 Rounds In Every American?
Preface: There might be an innocent explanation. But given recent trends, this is worrisome.
Retired Major General Jerry Curry wrote Friday:
The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S.
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Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.
What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.
Potentially each hollow nose bullet represents a dead American. If so, why would the U.S. government want the SSA to kill 174,000 of our citizens, even during a time of civil unrest?
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If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.
In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.
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All of these rounds of ammunition can only be used to kill American citizens, though there is enough ammunition being ordered to kill, in addition to every American citizen, also every Iranian, Syrian or Mexican. There is simply too much of it. And this much ammunition can’t be just for training, there aren’t that many weapons and “shooters” in the U.S. to fire it.
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We have enough military forces to maintain law and order in the U.S. even during times of civil unrest.
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This is a deadly serious business. I hope I’m wrong, but something smells rotten. And If the Congress isn’t going to do its duty and investigate this matter fully, the military will have to protect the Constitution, the nation, and our citizens.
Why are government agencies doing this?
Major General Curry asks a troubling questions:
We have local police, backed up by each state’s National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense. So in addition to all these forces why does DHS need its own private army? Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?
This may sound like a conspiracy theory …
But remember that Senator Daniel Inouye said in 1987:
There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.
The Federal Reserve – which is not exactly federal (and see this)- also has its own police force. See this and this.
Chalmers Johnson called the CIA the President’s private army.
But that’s nothing compared to JSOC. As John Glaser wrote in February:
For the past decade, we’ve seen the rise of a secret, unaccountable U.S. military force … Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) is an unwieldy private army at the command of the President, and him only. And they conduct military and spy missions all over the world, never receiving formal congressional approval ….
“Without the knowledge of the American public,” wrote Nick Turse back in August, “a secret force within the U.S. military is undertaking operations in a majority of the world’s countries. This new Pentagon power elite is waging a global war whose size and scope has never been revealed.” According to a recent Congressional Research Service report, JSOC forces “reportedly conduct highly sensitive combat and supporting operations against terrorists on a world-wide basis.” As the New York Times this week reported:
The Special Operations Command now numbers just under 66,000 people — including both military personnel and Defense Department civilians — a doubling since 2001. Its budget has reached $10.5 billion, up from $4.2 billion in 2001 (after adjusting for inflation).Over the past decade, Special Operations Command personnel have been deployed for combat operations, exercises, training and other liaison missions in more than 70 countries. Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, Special Operations Command sustained overseas deployments of more than 12,000 troops a day, with four-fifths committed to the broader Middle East.
JSOC operates outside the confines of the traditional military and even beyond what the CIA is able to do.
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But it goes well beyond the war zones. In concert with the Executive’s new claims on extra-judicial assassinations via drone strikes, even if the target is an American citizen, JSOC goes around the world murdering suspects without the oversight of a judge or, god forbid, granting those unfortunate souls the right to defend themselves in court against secret, evidence-less government decrees about their guilt. As Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh said at a speaking event in 2009:
Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on.***
Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us….
[Marc Ambinder told Wired]:
There are legal restrictions on what the CIA can do in terms of covert operations. There has to be a finding, the president has to notify at least the “Gang of Eight” [leaders of the intelligence oversight committees] in Congress. JSOC doesn’t have to do any of that. There is very little accountability for their actions. What’s weird is that many in congress who’d be very sensitive to CIA operations almost treat JSOC as an entity that doesn’t have to submit to oversight. It’s almost like this is the president’s private army, we’ll let the president do what he needs to do.
An End-Run Around the Constitution?
Remember, we’ve gone from a nation of laws to a nation of powerful men making laws in secret. A nation where Congressional leaders themselves aren’t even allow to see the laws, or to learn about covert programs. A nation where Congressmen are threatened with martial law if they don’t approve radical programs.
National security powers are being used to help big business, to the detriment of the American people.
Veterans returning from the front lines are labeled “potential terrorists”, to the horror of both the Republican and Democratic leadership.
This is not surprising, given that tyrannical regimes always crumble when the footsoldiers refuse to carry out draconian measures.
Indeed, active duty military personnel are big Ron Paul supporters. And see this. Because liking Ron Paul – as well as liking liberty or the Founding Fathers – may get one branded as a potential terrorist these days, there may be some friction between active military folks and the government as well.
We’ve been in a continuous state of National Emergency for 11 years. The Constitution has so thoroughly been shredded that it – literally – unclear whether we are still living in a constitutional form of government.
Because military folks are sworn to defend the Constitution, many still would not allow the imposition of overt, full-scale fascism without a fight. See this and this.
As such, Major General Curry’s speculation is chilling, indeed:
Is the purpose [of the lethal ammunition purchases] to kill 174,000 of the nation’s military and replace them with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) special security forces, forces loyal to the Administration, not to the Constitution?
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"Veterans returning from the front lines are labeled “potential terrorists”, to the horror of both the Republican and Democratic leadership."
Good article, but this gentleman does not realize that congress is part of the problem. "All" three branches of government at the top are comprised of former Americans now "globalists"! All will be forced to have a large red letter "G" painted on their foreheads for assimilation into the very same FEMA camps they built for us!
Tuco
They're gonna pop a cap in grandma's ass for complaining that her SS check doesn't buy enough catfood anymore...
+ 100 Nice one Psycho mon!
Maybe it's 100 rounds into every Occupier? That's a terrible, terrible thought.
group has the right sentiment. wrong philosophy. leftist dupes who will be run out as cannon fodder. they will either succeed outright and enact a socialist totalitarian regime, or act as justification for a fascist totalitarian regime. win win for TPTB.
we're going to need every able person to win. don't start the war automatically writing off potential allies.
"Why Do They Need So Much Ammunition?"
You obviously have never seen cops at the range.
Cops do not train with hollowpoints. Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) rounds are used for training, because they are cheaper...or "green" rounds are used, for OSHA or environmental reasoning.
Hollowpoints are reserved for two things:
1) shooting at living things
2) running through the gun on occasion just to be sure the hollowpoints will feed when the time comes to shoot at living things
Background for the gun ignorant: Hollowpoints don't necessarily feed the same way in semi-auto pistols as FMJ "practice" rounds. Also, not that it matters here but the military uses generally less lethal FMJ rounds even in combat, due to Geneva Convention type thinking. The deadiest small arms ammo, hollowpoint and expanding types, is used by private citizens and domestic law enforcement.
I've always practiced with the same rounds I'd use for business. Shoots to same point of aim and verifies feeding / not jamming. The DHS orders seem pretty large, but the SSA order could be burned up in practice by their security in pretty short order. Not very cost effective - but when has government ever been cost conscious?
Exactly!
Why do they need 5 rounds? Because they will miss 4 times on average.
And why do they always say 'rounds per American?' They should say 1 round per Indian .... or a half round per Chinese.
Cops at the range? How about cops at work?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImqAVon92VM
Unfortunately, an "us vs. them" mentality has crept into government and its agencies. As their iron screws of control grow heavier they perceive threats against themselves growing from both foreign and domestic sources.
5 bullets for every man woman and child in the USA.
That sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine.
Obama has been reading Chairman Mao's "Little Red Book" - Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun?
Obumma is a puppet
the Rothchild-Rockerfeller merger needs to secure their 'stake' in the West, by fair means or fowl (mostly the latter)
"the Rothchild-Rockerfeller merger needs to secure their 'stake' in the West, by fair means or fowl (mostly the latter)"
How are birds gonna help them?
Oh, I get it - Angry Birds!
Why Are Domestic Government Agencies Purchashing Enough Lethal Ammunition to Put 5 Rounds In Every American?
...because that's about the right number?
Because some will take less, others more.
Obama's Private Army. 'Bigger than the real army'
How soon Americans forget the words of their glorious leader!
Interestingly, Fox News reports the Feds are purchasing only a few tens of thousands of rounds and the conspiracy people are off their rockers spreading false rumors... unbelievable propaganda! I guess Rupert wants to stay out of jail.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/17/agencies-tamp-down-speculation-over-hollow-point-ammo-purchases/
BTW - excellent Senator Daniel Inouye on the shadow government YouTube statement. Every American should be aware of this.
I first heard of this when I met up with a childhood friend in 1975. He had been a Crypto Currier in Viet Nam. The short short was he said his Commanding officer, a Lieutenant Colonel, his lateral another Lieutenant Colonel, and a full Bird colonel were all involved in shipping heroin in body bags in Military planes on an industrial scale to the US. They were all Masons, as he said wearing the rings. So there’s the funding mechanism.
They appear to have ended up with the Yamashita gold hoard too. Over 100,000 metric tons, an order of magnitude greater than America's "Fort Knox" reserves.
Where's the guns?
Mexico?
They may get my guns, but I swear upon the altar of God, I'll take ten of those goofy pricks with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They get our guns we're all dead anyway. So what's the point?
A 10:1 kill ratio!
If every potential government victim aspired to that goal there would be much less government victimization.
Here's hoping you won't be taking them with you but merely sending them on their way.
Why Are Domestic Government Agencies Purchashing Enough Lethal Ammunition to Put 5 Rounds In Every American?Easy one to answer when you understand Govt is the enemy of free society (monoplising power is the exact opposite of personal freedom), a cabal intent on serving itself and protecting its own interests and survival (exclusively)
TPTB have lost the moral high ground, all that is left is the immoral low ground of despotic regimes immemorial.
all TBTB have left to weild is the power of Govt, the greatest power in society
take it away
Stop Paying Your Taxes ...don't fund the greatest enemy of society in history, Govt
Ah, but through the miracle of the Federal Reserve Bank, the Fedz don't need your stinkin' taxes, do they? At least in the short run.
Good luck. You'll need it.
It's all fun and games, until...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU
". . . somebody gets an eye put out."
Civil War comes soon.
We all need to pray it doesnt.
It wont be a simple thing that one can pause and go to the bathroom. It will start and go through unpredictable variations and wind up in a resolution that probably no one today can imagine.
Hundreds of thousands if not millions of innocent people will die simply from the breakdown in communications due to unavailable medicines, treatment and artificial famine. Families will be cut off from loved ones that they will never see again, even if they manage to survive.
The country will be able to rebuild, no doubt, but man, I sure do not want to live through such a thing and all of us should think this thing through.
Better the ballot box than the bullet box, every damned time.
Perhaps just preparing for inflationary projections. Even the government knows when somthing is cheap. B
The nepaharius part about all these is why?????
Obviously, they must know something that will create widespread chaos and disorder and hence the need to hunker down and defend their individual forts....... NOAA might get attacked if there is a major ocean disturbance or crazy weather patterns that citizens may demand more info on, trouble is they are just the messenger delivering the weather forecast and have no control on what shit weather comes our way.......
I would hunker down and prepare to survive otherwise, we may not know what will happen but the footprints are there for all to see....
Stay safe!
Excellent point. Central banks/nations are hoarding gold, might be smart to follow suite. Same for ammo.
Excellent point. Central banks/nations are hoarding gold, might be smart to follow suite. Same for ammo.
"Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving."
No doubt this was correct--about 4 years ago! Time to update to more recent sources. One Barack Hussein Obama is now the Assassin-in-Chief. GWB retired from that job and is living comfortablyl in TX.
...are you kidding, lol, of course the government employees want to protect themselves and their families, they do not serve the spirit of the Constitution, they serve the letter of the law, and then the ''Vote 2 Party Dial 666-ADD- Debt'' based court system gets their cut, then, after the the voice of the Supreme Court Morons Citizen United Algo Nova Company Robot rules, you have a jury, that may over rule the corruption and sustain order, if there happens to be at least one person on the jury that is not a complete fool.
By the time the host of the spirit of the Constitution runs through that valley of the shadow banking death, you will have realized that the people are so captured, by the contempt of the government, the only conclusion, any sane person can draw at this point, is well defined by the early American reasons for making sure, in writting, people remain armed enough to dissolve their government that no longer represents the (RULES) security required for their life freedom liberty and justice based on the foundation of INDIVIDUAL INDEPENDENCE!
The sad fact is, the general public; that would rise up against tyranny at this point and restore order to the Republic, is out gunned by the new voice and image of the Peta Flopping Company robot offensive government employee force, which out numbers them, and the lukewarm socialist morons that have both husbans and wives working to send their children to day care, known as the public school system; run by Union scumbags and freaks that can't stand a free market principle of competiton ...much less competency on par with a grade A that actually means something beyond the gray curve of relativism which claims the Truth is a choice and life has no meaning. LMAO.
At this point, to entertain the notion that ordering bullets to kill Americans is not a deadly revelation of corruption is stupid. To hear a General that can't clearly make that point is no surprise, as of late they have been famous for retiring after following new world orders, based on the complete bullshit of Benny and the 911 Jets Patriot Actor's MCA NDAA fascist lies, about everything from Iran Contra BCCI drug gun and missile running, eh hum ''we pardon our lawless selves'', to ''I ate too much Yellow Cake'' slam dunking for more dollars into the George Tenent nuclear put option payoff fund for Carlyle Groups effort to reopen the big 666 Penis shut down by the mercy of an earthquake post POTUS's White House debt ceiling seal of approval. LMAO.
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/6577
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/08/19/feds-targeting-alternative-media-information-warfare-campaign-170791/
...it really is a Rocky Horror Picture Show now, damn it, and the Bride really is a Drag Queen, from the lab of a homo erotic Neo World Order mirror image, of the heart and mind of the beastly bitch ezzzz... Ah haa haa haa haa haaaa. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXuO9zfuQK8
Well said brother...let the revolution begin!
99% of federal employees are clueless about what is happening. They are drones whose job is to make sure paper X is pused through hole Y. They may as well be putting part X onto part Y on the assembly line. They are not thinking about somehow securing govt purchased ammo to defend their families. Defend their families from what? Anarchic mob violence? Hell, as the article points out, they have about 16 layers of police and military protection to do that. These employees are just like you and me, doing their stinking daily jobs, then going home to the challenges of family life.
99% of federal employees are clueless about what is happening.
They are just as guilty of implementing the pogrom. Hang them all.
...um, I call bullshit on that assesment Watauga. You ain't talking to no green horn from a Mission Hills mansion, I know ''them'' of which you speak, like the back of my hand. I have dealt with them for years and informed them the entire time they told me I was crazy and ''this can't be true'', lmao. Work hard my ass. Work hard at doing a piss poor government job you can't get fired from unless you read them the a quote from the Bible they don't like, lol, or tell them they are worthless pukes that could not stop a plane from hitting the Department of Defense and the World Trade Center ...or find a can of bomb juice on a Put Option Flight to hell and their life depends on it. LMAO. Day late and a dollar short, lol, has a new (world order) meaning, lmao, it's backed by government employees that make up the largest employer in the world.
Now imagine me yelling at you like a trainee at boot camp, little Miss Rambo.
You have no clue, or, you are one ''of'' the dipshits for saying that line of crap These idiots have no penalty for doing bad work, they work hard at a GUBERMINT LEVEL, lol, and they hate the hell out of people that work like they run a small business built off the capital they saved from WORKING HARD FOR THE MONEY THEY EARNED ALL BY THEMSELVES. I live in the D.C. Metro area, I am also a Brat etc... Don't give me your puss talk about how you think things are, especially in the light of todays revelation, dipshit. I will eat your lunch everytime and then some. As you were, stand fast, do no harm ...and can that bullshit, the map makers are gonna burn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR9GiA7Hg_A
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/08/december-3rd-2012-planets-align-with-giza-pyramids-for-the-1st-time-in-2737-years-2454374.html
This has been a message from the real security, that can save your dusty ass, if you are willing to follow direct orders that are not based (lawless thinking) on shallow minded ideas of a global borderless neo world order camera, linked to a market algo world, that represents POTUS Gay Pride Abortion cufflinks on Jamie Dimon's shirt he did not get from the Great Wal Mart of China. LMAO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfSDhVHZQY4
Old Rome had the problem sometimes that armies were too far from the old city to stop someone from staging a coup d'etat. There was also the problem that a leader of an army got ambitious and marched on Rome to get into power. Armies returning to Rome therefore could never cross the river Rubicon. If an army did that -like Julius Ceasar did- it would be very clear what that army's intentions were. It seems that all these problems nowadays are solved with the creation of DHS. 9/11 was a coup d'etat, the US army is tied down in wars far away, and DHS makes sure they can't cross nowadays Rubicon (Potomac?).
I think the real coup d'état was in Dallas in November 1963.
That was the end of The Republic.
double paste-- need the exposure
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/08/welcome-to-united-soviet-states-of.html
The Hudson.
My bad, I forgot where the real center of power was.
The Roman elite (parasites) turned their subjects into tax slaves.. it worked for a few hundred years though there were Tax Revolts along the way.. and many of the populace legged it to Spain etc rather see their hard-earned thieved by lazy worthless toerags (the Emperors)
if you think 30 years mortgages (invented by the Democrats, cajoled no doubt by bwankers) and debt-slave students (another public-private 'enterprise') looks like a remarkably similar method of enslaving a nation you'd be pretty close to being damn right
Rome was a slaved based society anyway. For every Roman there were 2 to 3 slaves.
Why five rounds for every American?
Simple. Have you ever seen a cop shoot?