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Are People Being Thrown In Psychiatric Wards For Their Political Views?

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Many psychologists and psychiatrists are good people, who are only trying to help their patients.

But the Nazi government substantially supported psychologists … many of whom, in turn, espoused extermination of the people they considered to be “racially and cognitively compromised”.

Soviet psychiatrists famously aided Stalin in applying fake insanity diagnoses to political dissenters.  The official explanation was that no sane person would declaim the Soviet government and Communism.

American psychologists created the American program of torture which was specially-crafted to produce false confessions to justify U.S. military policy. And see this.

And authoritarian American psychologists are eager to label anyone “taking a cynical stance toward politics, mistrusting authority, endorsing democratic practices, … and displaying an inquisitive, imaginative outlook” as worthy of a trip to the insane asylum. (Those traits may also get one labeled as a potential terrorist.)

As prominent forensic psychiatrist James Knoll - psychiatry professor at SUNY-Syracuse and director of a forensic fellowship program - writes in the Psychiatric Times:

When psychiatric science becomes co-opted by a political agenda, an unhealthy alliance may be created. It is science that will always be the host organism, to be taken over by political viruses…. [P]sychiatry may come to resemble a new organism entirely -- one that serves the ends of the criminal justice system.

Even psychologists with good intentions can erroneously label people delusional simply because they themselves make bad assumptions.

There is even a label for this – the “Martha Mitchell Effect” – defined as:

The process by which a psychiatrist, psychologist, or other mental health clinician mistakes the patient’s perception of real events as delusional and misdiagnoses accordingly.

The authors of a paper on this phenomenon (Bell, V., Halligan, P.W., Ellis, H.D. (2003) Beliefs About Delusions. The Psychologist, 6 (8), 418-422) conclude:

Sometimes, improbable reports are erroneously assumed to be symptoms of mental illness [due to a] failure or inability to verify whether the events have actually taken place, no matter how improbable intuitively they might appear to the busy clinician.

In other words, psychologists who haven’t taken the time to examine for themselves the claims of their patients will tend to label as delusional anything which they “intuitively” feel is improbable.  As such, psychologists and psychiatrists are just as prone to acting out their irrational prejudices as anyone else … unless they take the time to investigate and educate themselves.

Governments Indefinitely Detaining Citizens In Psychiatric Wards Without Due Process of Law

As such, detention in psych wards on mere “suspicion” of posing a danger – without due process of law – is troubling.

For example, former marine Brandon Raub was just carted off and locked in a psychiatric ward for his allegedly “anti-government” Facebook posts.

AP reports today:

Police – acting under a state law that allows emergency, temporary psychiatric commitments upon the recommendation of a mental health professional – took Raub to the John Randolph Medical Center in Hopewell. He was not charged with any crime.

 

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Col. Thierry Dupuis, the county police chief, said Raub was taken into custody upon the recommendation of mental health crisis intervention workers. He said the action was taken under the state’s emergency custody statute, which allows a magistrate to order the civil detention and psychiatric evaluation of a person who is considered potentially dangerous.

New York Police officer Adrian Schoolcraft was  involuntarily hospitalizated in a psychiatric ward after he recorded videotapes of his fellow police officers engaging in corruption.

Claire Swinney of New Zealand was also held in a psychiatric ward and called “delusional” for criticizing the government.    Susan Lindauer was held under the Patriot Act for a year at Carswell Air Force Base - where psychiatric drugs were pushed on her - after she alleged government corruption.

The Daily Mail notes:

The [British] Government has established a shadowy new national anti-terrorist unit to protect VIPs, with the power to detain suspects indefinitely using mental health laws.

 

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The team’s psychiatrists and psychologists then have the power to order treatment – including forcibly detaining suspects in secure psychiatric units.

 

Using these powers, the unit can legally detain people for an indefinite period without trial, criminal charges or even evidence of a crime being committed and with very limited rights of appeal.

 

Until now it has been the exclusive decision of doctors and mental health professionals to determine if someone should be forcibly detained.

 

But the new unit uses the police to identify suspects – increasing fears the line is being blurred between criminal investigation and doctors’ clinical decisions.

 

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Scotland Yard, which runs the shadowy unit, refuses to discuss how many suspects have been forcibly hospitalised by the team because of “patient confidentiality”.

 

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The purpose of the centre is “to evaluate and manage the risk posed to prominent people by…those who engage in inappropriate or threatening communications or behaviours in the context of abnormally intense preoccupations, many [Many? That means that some are not] of which arise from psychotic illness.”

Who gets to decide what “inappropriate” or “threatening” means?  What if a whistleblower has information that a member of parliament has engaged in bribes?  Would trying to reveal such information constitute “inappropriate or threatening communications or behaviours” in the context of “abnormally intense preoccupations” with that MP’s illegal actions?

Indeed, a study published in the International Journal of Law and Psychiatry found a high rate of false positives in the British identification of dangerous persons.

The Mail continues:

So-called ‘sectioning’ allows a patient to be held for up to six months before a further psychological assessment. Patients are then reviewed every year to determine if they can be released.

 

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Human rights activists fear the team, whose existence has never been publicised, may be being used as a way to detain suspected terrorists without having to put evidence before the courts.

 

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Last night human rights group Liberty said the secret unit represented a new threat to civil liberties.

 

Policy director Gareth Crossman said: “There is a grave danger of this being used to deal with people where there is insufficient evidence for a criminal prosecution.

 

“This blurs the line between medical decisions and police actions. If you are going to allow doctors to take people’s liberty away, they have to be independent. That credibility is undermined when the doctors are part of the same team as the police.

 

“This raises serious concerns. First that you have a unit that allows police investigation to lead directly to people being sectioned without any kind of criminal proceedings.

 

“Secondly, it is being done under the umbrella of anti-terrorism at a time when the Government is looking at ways to detain terrorists without putting them on trial.”

 

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The team examined thousands of cases and liaised with the FBI, the US Secret Service, the Capitol Hill Police, which protects Congressmen and Senators, and the Swedish and Norwegian secret services.

 

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Shadow Health Secretary Andrew Lansley said: “The Government is trying to bring in a wider definition of mental disorder and is resisting exclusions which ensure that people cannot be treated as mentally disordered on the grounds of their cultural, political or religious beliefs.

 

“When you hear they are also setting up something like this police unit, it raises questions about quite what their intentions are.

 

“The use of mental health powers of detention should be confined to the purposes of treatment. But the Government wants to be able to detain someone who is mentally disordered even when the treatment would have no benefit.

 

“Combined with the idea that someone could be classed as mentally ill on the grounds of their religious beliefs, it is a very worrying scenario.”

Indeed, the whole “indefinite detention” process (which Americans living on American soil are subject to) can be based on circular reasoning:

The government’s indefinite detention policy – stripped of it’s spin – is literally insane, and based on circular reasoning. Stripped of p.r., this is the actual policy:

  • If you are an enemy combatant or a threat to national security, we will detain you indefinitely until the war is over
  • But trust us, we know you are an enemy combatant and a threat to national security

See how that works?

This is an analogy.  We are not accusing psych wards of using torture.  However, they do often use powerful psychiatric drugs on patients … which can elicit false confessions.

Are we going to slide into Soviet levels of psychiatric detention of political dissidents? Unless the spread of psychiatric detention without due process of law is checked, the mere belief that the government is interfering with your liberty may become grounds for locking you away.

 

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Thu, 08/23/2012 - 00:35 | 2729424 rambo1028
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Can someone please help me with a link to the actual documents/memos where the government gave the lists of who/what they were suspicious of and taking a closer look at? I have seen a link here before but cannot find it in my mess of "bookmarks".

Thanks in advance!

Rambo

Thu, 08/23/2012 - 01:43 | 2729492 sun tzu
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Why have CNN and PMSNBC not run a single story over this illegal surveillance and detainment of an American citizen for exercising his first amendment rights? Where is the ACLU? I saw the kooks posts on Dailkooks supporting the police state actions 100%. They say he must be a dangerous domestic terrorist since the FBI took him away and that anyone who thinks the government might be committing crimes should be investigated. 

Thu, 08/23/2012 - 00:41 | 2729434 George Washington
Thu, 08/23/2012 - 13:05 | 2730838 rambo1028
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Thanks! I initially linked to your blog and someone said until they saw actual government documents they didn't believe what you were saying.... so I sent them the link to the START pdf. Even that probably won't be enough if he is not ready to see the truth...

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 22:39 | 2729289 windcatcher
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Reminiscent of the classic “One Flew Over the Cuckoo-nest”, the fellow may be “treated” with drugs, electroshock treatments and even a frontal lobotomy.

 

He hasn’t been released yet so he is being “treated”.

 

Look Out! The new Gitmo for terrorist is mental institutions where anyone can be legally disappeared

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 22:19 | 2729256 nick howdy
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Watching "The Big Lebowski" at this time...Thanks Fedbuster...I used to think this movie was fucked up...Then as time went on I realized the entire world is fucked up...and I'm Steve Bushemi in this movie..

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 23:01 | 2729304 FEDbuster
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Hope you are enjoying a tall white russian or a cold oat soda with that flick.

The Dude abides

http://www.lebowskifest.com/default.aspx

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 21:40 | 2729196 Fix It Again Timmy
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I totally agree, all politicians should be thrown into a psychiatric ward, better yet, declare Washington, D.C. a psychiatric ward and throw away the keys...

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 19:33 | 2729009 Tunga
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This is a fake story. The arrest video is fake. The people in it are fake. The interviews are fake. It is all a fear mongering propaganda stunt.
 
 

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 18:48 | 2728935 W10321303
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If you are a "Muslim" looking type, then go to GITMO says DICK CHEENEE...no outrage there.

This is just another distraction from the HUGE crimes that have gone unpunished since the SUPREMELY out of CONTROL Cour appointed "W" and let Karl Rove take over. So GROW UP and smell the coffee Boys and Girls...

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 23:41 | 2729378 sun tzu
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CHINEE and W aren't the preznits no more. You MESSIAH is the one that unpunished them and continues to commit the SAME crimes with your blessing while people like you are a HUGEE distraction from the HUGEE crimes committed by the GUBMINT. So GROW up and smell the piss on your head Boy

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 18:39 | 2728921 monad
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I read what Mr. Raub posted. Coming from a nobody I wouldn't think twice about it, but from a recent USMC veteran, due to recent attacks and civil unrest, it was unwise. If he wanted his message to be known, he played his hand brilliantly.

If they don't release him by the end of the month, call Ted Nugent.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 23:45 | 2729379 sun tzu
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Recent USMC veterans aren't allowed the same rights as a grovelling douchebag like you?

Thu, 08/23/2012 - 00:25 | 2729416 monad
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Recent USMC veterans are alot more dangerous than me.

Pull your pants up, I'm not interested.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 19:29 | 2729004 Tunga
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At least the "nobody" known as monad cares. Unwise monad? Fear your government right?! The first law of ignorance! Forgetaboutit!

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 20:18 | 2729062 monad
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No more tv for you, you've obviously had enough.

Thu, 08/23/2012 - 19:14 | 2732048 Tunga
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Tunga has no TV monad. 
 
You need some more Kool Aid with your fake news? 

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 18:21 | 2728885 sgt_doom
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Great blog posting, GW.

And speaking of the UK and Sweden, and strange goings on....

Great report at Nordic News site, with a synopsis of some interesting paragraphs below.

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf

21 August. On the same day that Anna Ardin is interviewed, the dossier assembled by the police is reviewed by prosecutor Eva Finné, to whom the case has been transferred at the direction of Prosecutor-General Anders Perklev. Ms. Finné is the first prosecutor to read the documentation, and she quickly decides to rescind the order for Assange’s arrest. The announcement is made at 16:48 on Saturday, just short of one full day after the arrest order

was issued by her colleague.

“I do not believe there is any reason to suspect that [Assange] has committed rape,” is the terse message of Eva Finné who will continue the investigation and announce her final decision within

the next few days. In the meantime, the only remaining suspicion is that Assange may have physically — but not sexually — molested Anna Ardin.

 

23 August. Police officer Irmeli Krans returns to work on Monday morning, intending to proofread the protocol of her interview with Sofia Wilén and correct any errors it might contain. But she discovers that she is denied access to the text file in the police computer system. “After an exchange of e-mails, I was ordered by lead investigator Mats Gehlin to instead write and sign a new protocol in the computer system, which was done on Thursday, August 26th, with necessary changes.”

 

25 August. Having reviewed the evidence in the Assange case, prosecutor Eva Finné makes a final decision to dismiss all sexrelated charges. “I have discontinued the preliminary investigation of the charge originally designated as rape,” she announces. “There is no suspicion of any crime whatsoever. I have gone through the interview with the complainant [Sofia Wilén].

 

27 September. After lingering in Sweden for five weeks, Julian Assange departs for Germany and then England, with Ms. Ny’s consent. On the same day, she issues a secret warrant for his arrest (see “Abuse of Office by Prosecutor Ny” on page 31).

 

Supported by public funds, Claes Borgström is conducting a largely uncontested “trial by media” against Assange with the eager complicity of influential print and broadcast media.

 

October 2010. Now based in England, Assange makes repeated attempts to be interviewed. Among them is an offer to return to Sweden for that purpose at his own expense any time during the week of October 11th. That suggestion is rejected by prosecutor Ny on the grounds that it is “too distant”. Assange also offers to be interviewed in London, either in person or via telecommunications.

 

Every proposal is rejected by Ms. Ny (see “Abuse of Office by Swedish Prosecutor on page 31).

 

20 November. Prosecutor Ny issues a European Arrest Warrant (EAW) for Julian Assange. In addition to ignoring Assange’s numerous attempts to arrange an interview, prosecutor Ny has

ignored the less intrusive Mutual Legal Assistance mechanism that is normally employed in such cases (see “Overkill with European Arrest Warrant” on page 35).

 

On the same day, Ms. Ny authorizes Interpol to post a Red Notice on Assange, the highest priority alert which is usually reserved for the most serious criminal suspects. This appears to make Assange a more dangerous fellow than Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who is charged with crimes against humanity but is listed with the lower-ranking Orange Notice.

 

The absurdity of it prompts the well-known U.S. feminist Naomi Wolf to write: “Thank you again, Interpol. I know you will now prioritize the global manhunt for 1.3 million guys I have heard similar complaints about personally in the US alone — there is an entire fraternity at the University of Texas you need to arrest immediately.

 

“I also have firsthand information that John Smith in Providence, Rhode Island, went to a stag party — with strippers! — that his girlfriend wanted him to skip, and that Mark Levinson in Corvallis, Oregon, did not notice that his girlfriend got a really cute new haircut — even though it was THREE INCHES SHORTER.”

 

In explaining why she has resorted to such heavy-handed methods to arrange an interview, prosecutor Ny states that it is essential for it be conducted on Swedish soil since Swedish law prohibits any of the alternatives proposed by Assange and his lawyers.

 

That is an outright lie: There is no such law. In fact, there is a well established mechanism for international co-operation: “Mutual legal assistance (MLA) is the formal way in which countries request and provide assistance in obtaining evidence located in one country to assist in criminal investigations or proceedings in another country,” explains the website of the U.K. government.

 

The law establishing the European Arrest Warrant was hurriedly adopted by the European Union’s parliament in response to the terror attacks in the United States on 11 September 2001. The intended purpose was to facilitate the extradition between EU member-states of persons suspected of terrorism and other serious crimes.

 

A fundamental requirement of an EAW is that it must be issued for someone who has been formally charged with a crime. But Julian Assange has not yet been charged with any crime, a circumstance (dubiously) employed by Ms. Ny to justify withholding exculpatory and other evidence.

 

These and other factors have prompted Brita Sundberg-Weitman, a retired Swedish judge who is an expert on civil rights, to strongly criticize the behaviour of Ms. Ny. Among other things, she points out that the Swedish Code of Judicial Procedure stipulates that:

 

“Not only circumstances that are not in favour of the suspect but also circumstances in his favour shall be considered…. The investigation should be conducted so that no person

is unnecessarily exposed to suspicion or put to unnecessary cost or inconvenience. The preliminary investigation shall be conducted as expeditiously as possible.”

 

“It has been suggested that the real reason Sweden wants Assange is so that its government can in turn extradite him to the United States where he will face prosecution for conspiracy to harm U.S. ‘national security’,” observes former CIA analyst David MacMichael.

 

“How well-founded is that suspicion? From the perspective of many former officers in the U.S. intelligence system, it is almost a certainty,” states MacMichael. “In this context, it may be noted that the Obama administration has already initiated more prosecutions of so-called whistleblowers than in the entire previous history of the United States. Moreover, the trend in current ‘national security’ legislation grants the administration the authority to arrest and imprison, indefinitely and without trial, both citizens and noncitizens of the U.S. anywhere on the ‘world battlefield’. Now the administration has even claimed the right to murder U.S. citizens whom it designates as threats to national security.

 

Finally, it may be noted that England has a history of at least occasionally resisting U.S. demands for extradition, whereas Sweden’s recent history has been one of complete submission.

 

 

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 18:15 | 2728872 Pejorative Requiem
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Well here's something we can finally agree upon: expression of political opinion is not grounds for getting strapped into a straight jacket. So let me expound....... Global Warming is a bullshit argument to pursue impressment of government control and resource theft. Here's another... the American Media Oligopoly is the fifth column of an evil leftist plot to destroy the US Constitution. One more...... Here's one more; The US Constitution and system of govennrance is actually the best ever contrived; but it's been co-opted by socialists! No straight jacket please. If you don't like the way I'm livin you just leave this long haired country boy alone.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 20:33 | 2729088 CH1
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Tyranny isn't only a leftist thing. It's a State thing.

So long as systems to control everyone exist, tyranny will be close at hand.

Whether tyranny comes from the "left" or "right" (to the extent those terms are of any value), is a trivial detail.

Of course commies are the world's champion killers, but without a state to use as a tool, they would be a relatively small problem.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 23:48 | 2729384 sun tzu
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Tyranny is a statist thing. Without an all-powerful government, there can be no tyranny. These days, those who want a smaller, weaker government are considered right-wing. The truth is, the right-wing fascists are neocons, while the liberty lovers are the real right. I haven't heard form those on the left who want more personal freedom.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 20:55 | 2729137 Pejorative Requiem
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Yeah...... left and right are the same if followed to thier extremes. But the terms are still required if colloquials have not grasped your point. And so i'm forced to describe the Tryants as lefties. And, in todays battle for liberty, they are the greater opponent of liberty.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 16:57 | 2728698 benb
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(IIRC)In the run up to the Globalist invasion of Iraq using the puppet controlled US military, the president’s (Little Bush’s) chief of staff was Andrew Card. Card’s cousin, Susan Lindauer    was with the State Department in Iraq prior to the open hostilities. She tried to warn that there were no WMD’s. For acting as a dutiful American she was put in a Psychiatric

 hospital and forcibly drugged to shut her up.

http://www.amazon.com/Susan-Lindauer/e/B006THOTR8

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/01/18/685452/-Breaking-DOJ-suddenly-drops-case-against-Andy-Card-s-cousin

 

I guess it could have been worse. You could ask Senator Paul Wellstone about not rocking the boat if his plane hadn’t been electronically shot down. That happened ten days after Dick Cheney (Rockefeller’s gopher) had told him –“If you oppose the Iraq war there will be serious consequences.”  

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 23:50 | 2729388 sun tzu
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That's a bit too far flung. If every senator or congressman who who opposed Cheney and the Iraq invasion was killed, then Reid, Pelosi, Kerry etc would all be dead.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 22:54 | 2729301 mofreedom
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If Wellstone had kept his pledge to only seek two terms he would likely be alive (no plane crash up north).  Bless his soul though, a genuine commie.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 16:36 | 2728653 TSA gropee
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I'm thinkin' it's pretty safe to assume that theyare leaving no stone unturned in their quest to silence and dispense with critics, for this and other instances like it leave little for debate with each instance pushing the line further and further. Welcome to 1984.

Recommendation: You may want to think twice about that "smart" tv that contains a mic and/or a web cam, and if that's not clear, read or watch Orwell's classic, 1984 as it would appear that societal fiction is rapidly becoming societal fact. Unnerving to say the least.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 16:20 | 2728608 Mysteerious Roo...
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"Are we going to slide into Soviet levels of psychiatric detention of political dissidents?"

Um...don't look now, but....

The team’s psychiatrists and psychologists then have the power to order treatment – including forcibly detaining suspects in secure psychiatric units.

So...will insecure psychiatric units get locked away for treatment?

And ya gotta love the fact that Raub has been locked away in a place called "Hopewell."  Hell, that out-Orwells Orwell. Not even he could make this shit up. Grotesque.

Excellent post. Many thanks for writing on this most disturbing situation. You certainly included some horrfying info that I did not know. Things are even worse than I thought. Thanks again for a great article.

BTW--look up the word "declaim."

kind regards from ze Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman.

 

 

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 15:47 | 2728509 Badabing
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200 congrats GW good work!!!

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 14:14 | 2728137 lakecity55
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As Barry Marshall Davis moves us closer to Stalinism, you will see more and more of this.

If he is successful in seizing the government between October and January, I would expect overflowing "mental wards" and a quickly growing number of large, mass graves.

After all, that's what he was hired to do.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 17:22 | 2728763 WeAreJellyfish
Wed, 08/22/2012 - 15:25 | 2728429 Praetorian Guard
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...gee, lets see, why would they send this chap to a nut house, but no charges.... hmmmmmmm.... okay, yea, the answer to that 64K question is he is now prohibited possessor of firearms due to MENTAL EVALUATION!!!!!! That is a crappy work around... wonder if they try it on others...?????????

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 22:19 | 2729253 rambo1028
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Had not even thought of that Guard..... omg....

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 14:09 | 2728120 SmittyinLA
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Strangely enough, everything that the Unabomber ranted about turned out to be true, his only errors were in target selection and vanity, the manifesto was dead on.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 13:55 | 2728054 mofreedom
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Nuthouse equals jail without trial and no chance of bail.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 12:46 | 2727777 NoTTD
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Obviously, you do not know the meaning of "anaolgy".  

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 12:14 | 2727659 PLove
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Fortunately, Big Pharma is using very pure grades of aluminum and mercury in their vaccines today.

Unfortunately, most Americans drink fluoridated water that combines with aluminum and mercury to produce a variety of senility conditions.

 

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 12:07 | 2727634 mberry8870
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Compare and contrast:

Cops: Armed Wash. man arrested after alleged email threat against Obama

&

New Pussy Riot song slams Russian President Vladimir Putin

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfUmqbtItTE

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 11:59 | 2727599 JohnFrodo
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Ad Canada to the list. You have to follow the links, but in summary a radio host repeated these allegations, police took him directly from the studio and placed him in an institution for 3 years. He like Jack Nicolson in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest may now be crazy.

http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.ca/2011/09/vancouver-club-and-pedophilia.html

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 11:55 | 2727581 IthinkMyHeadsGo...
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A freind of mine's mother was thrown into a psychiatric hospital for life when she was caught printing antigovernment propaganda in communist Czechoslovakia.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 12:04 | 2727573 Money 4 Nothing
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Any Patriots that would like to support Raub and demonstrate this can't stand in America, please join The Oath Keepers and other Patriot groups on a Labor day rally. No need to sign up, just show up.

There are already local liberty activists protesting outside of the Veterans Administration hospital in Salem, Virginia (where Brandon Raub was transferred last night, after a local magistrate rubber stamped his "preventive detention" and extended it for 30 more days).


Salem VA Medical Center
1970 Roanoke Blvd.

Salem, VA 24153

540-982-2463 | 888-982-2463

 

He is being detained for exercising our 1A, right or wrong, this can't stand.

 Cathleen also asked us to post this statement from her, about her son:


He's a good-to-go Marine who understands he is in a situation where he is watched at all times and he knows they are looking for anything to use as a justification for what they are doing to him. He is disciplined, but please pray for his patience, and his stalwart faith. He knew that when he spoke up something like this could happen. He sensed it was coming, and yet he knew he had not just a First Amendment protected right, but also a DUTY to speak out.

We had conversations about what is going on in our country and then decided to do something about it. We formed the Richmond Liberty movement and held a rally November 15, 2011 and have been very active in the community since. We were always speaking out against legislation threatening rights, such as SOPA, and writing our legislators.

 

Show your support, resist Treason at all costs.

Thanks,

-JP

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 22:33 | 2729280 brettd
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Why does the "local magistrate" go unnamed?

Buildings and "agencies" don't make arrests.  

People do.   

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 19:21 | 2728983 Tunga
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Oathkeepers is a Soros front. The leader; Stuart Rhodes is a fake. An actor. He plays many parts in different UTUBE vid's on the www. This whole story is a psy-op Homeland Securty dragnet designed to provoke. Leave these offworld scumbags to their own devices and the internal rage will tear them apart. That's right. Ignor them. Fear is thier weapon of choice. Fuck that shit. 

Thu, 08/23/2012 - 20:52 | 2732263 Money 4 Nothing
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Your full of shit. You don't know our organization then. Lol @ Soros connection, your a funny yet mislead chap.

 

 

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 12:11 | 2727647 FEDbuster
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Wish I could be there, too long of a drive from AZ, and I stopped flying when the TSA perverts tookover the airports.  I will do all I can to spread the word.  Hopefully Adam Kokesh who lives in DC will rally his "troops" to come out for the weekend of support.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 11:16 | 2727408 lostcause
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There is no "FREE" in Freedom. Everyone pays a price for it sooner or later.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 11:12 | 2727395 lostcause
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 Remember there is no "FREE" in Freedom. Everone pays a price sooner or later.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 11:05 | 2727359 UP4Liberty
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Hey GW,

Have you seen this article?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/21/marine-held-for-facebook-posts-v...

Thanks for your efforts - cheers!

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 18:29 | 2728901 taxpayer102
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Not able to access www.veteranstoday.com as of 18:30 EST, getting a 403 forbidden message, even when accessing from a search engine result.

Wed, 08/22/2012 - 09:56 | 2727007 08xander02
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This is a free country says the government.  Citizen says government is infringing on freedoms. Citizen is obviously insane.

 

Now I get it.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!