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Are People Being Thrown In Psychiatric Wards For Their Political Views?
Many psychologists and psychiatrists are good people, who are only trying to help their patients.
But the Nazi government substantially supported psychologists … many of whom, in turn, espoused extermination of the people they considered to be “racially and cognitively compromised”.
Soviet psychiatrists famously aided Stalin in applying fake insanity diagnoses to political dissenters. The official explanation was that no sane person would declaim the Soviet government and Communism.
American psychologists created the American program of torture which was specially-crafted to produce false confessions to justify U.S. military policy. And see this.
And authoritarian American psychologists are eager to label anyone “taking a cynical stance toward politics, mistrusting authority, endorsing democratic practices, … and displaying an inquisitive, imaginative outlook” as worthy of a trip to the insane asylum. (Those traits may also get one labeled as a potential terrorist.)
As prominent forensic psychiatrist James Knoll - psychiatry professor at SUNY-Syracuse and director of a forensic fellowship program - writes in the Psychiatric Times:
When psychiatric science becomes co-opted by a political agenda, an unhealthy alliance may be created. It is science that will always be the host organism, to be taken over by political viruses…. [P]sychiatry may come to resemble a new organism entirely -- one that serves the ends of the criminal justice system.
Even psychologists with good intentions can erroneously label people delusional simply because they themselves make bad assumptions.
There is even a label for this – the “Martha Mitchell Effect” – defined as:
The process by which a psychiatrist, psychologist, or other mental health clinician mistakes the patient’s perception of real events as delusional and misdiagnoses accordingly.
The authors of a paper on this phenomenon (Bell, V., Halligan, P.W., Ellis, H.D. (2003) Beliefs About Delusions. The Psychologist, 6 (8), 418-422) conclude:
Sometimes, improbable reports are erroneously assumed to be symptoms of mental illness [due to a] failure or inability to verify whether the events have actually taken place, no matter how improbable intuitively they might appear to the busy clinician.
In other words, psychologists who haven’t taken the time to examine for themselves the claims of their patients will tend to label as delusional anything which they “intuitively” feel is improbable. As such, psychologists and psychiatrists are just as prone to acting out their irrational prejudices as anyone else … unless they take the time to investigate and educate themselves.
Governments Indefinitely Detaining Citizens In Psychiatric Wards Without Due Process of Law
As such, detention in psych wards on mere “suspicion” of posing a danger – without due process of law – is troubling.
For example, former marine Brandon Raub was just carted off and locked in a psychiatric ward for his allegedly “anti-government” Facebook posts.
AP reports today:
Police – acting under a state law that allows emergency, temporary psychiatric commitments upon the recommendation of a mental health professional – took Raub to the John Randolph Medical Center in Hopewell. He was not charged with any crime.
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Col. Thierry Dupuis, the county police chief, said Raub was taken into custody upon the recommendation of mental health crisis intervention workers. He said the action was taken under the state’s emergency custody statute, which allows a magistrate to order the civil detention and psychiatric evaluation of a person who is considered potentially dangerous.
New York Police officer Adrian Schoolcraft was involuntarily hospitalizated in a psychiatric ward after he recorded videotapes of his fellow police officers engaging in corruption.
Claire Swinney of New Zealand was also held in a psychiatric ward and called “delusional” for criticizing the government. Susan Lindauer was held under the Patriot Act for a year at Carswell Air Force Base - where psychiatric drugs were pushed on her - after she alleged government corruption.
The Daily Mail notes:
The [British] Government has established a shadowy new national anti-terrorist unit to protect VIPs, with the power to detain suspects indefinitely using mental health laws.
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The team’s psychiatrists and psychologists then have the power to order treatment – including forcibly detaining suspects in secure psychiatric units.
Using these powers, the unit can legally detain people for an indefinite period without trial, criminal charges or even evidence of a crime being committed and with very limited rights of appeal.
Until now it has been the exclusive decision of doctors and mental health professionals to determine if someone should be forcibly detained.
But the new unit uses the police to identify suspects – increasing fears the line is being blurred between criminal investigation and doctors’ clinical decisions.
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Scotland Yard, which runs the shadowy unit, refuses to discuss how many suspects have been forcibly hospitalised by the team because of “patient confidentiality”.
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The purpose of the centre is “to evaluate and manage the risk posed to prominent people by…those who engage in inappropriate or threatening communications or behaviours in the context of abnormally intense preoccupations, many [Many? That means that some are not] of which arise from psychotic illness.”
Who gets to decide what “inappropriate” or “threatening” means? What if a whistleblower has information that a member of parliament has engaged in bribes? Would trying to reveal such information constitute “inappropriate or threatening communications or behaviours” in the context of “abnormally intense preoccupations” with that MP’s illegal actions?
Indeed, a study published in the International Journal of Law and Psychiatry found a high rate of false positives in the British identification of dangerous persons.
The Mail continues:
So-called ‘sectioning’ allows a patient to be held for up to six months before a further psychological assessment. Patients are then reviewed every year to determine if they can be released.
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Human rights activists fear the team, whose existence has never been publicised, may be being used as a way to detain suspected terrorists without having to put evidence before the courts.
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Last night human rights group Liberty said the secret unit represented a new threat to civil liberties.
Policy director Gareth Crossman said: “There is a grave danger of this being used to deal with people where there is insufficient evidence for a criminal prosecution.
“This blurs the line between medical decisions and police actions. If you are going to allow doctors to take people’s liberty away, they have to be independent. That credibility is undermined when the doctors are part of the same team as the police.
“This raises serious concerns. First that you have a unit that allows police investigation to lead directly to people being sectioned without any kind of criminal proceedings.
“Secondly, it is being done under the umbrella of anti-terrorism at a time when the Government is looking at ways to detain terrorists without putting them on trial.”
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The team examined thousands of cases and liaised with the FBI, the US Secret Service, the Capitol Hill Police, which protects Congressmen and Senators, and the Swedish and Norwegian secret services.
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Shadow Health Secretary Andrew Lansley said: “The Government is trying to bring in a wider definition of mental disorder and is resisting exclusions which ensure that people cannot be treated as mentally disordered on the grounds of their cultural, political or religious beliefs.
“When you hear they are also setting up something like this police unit, it raises questions about quite what their intentions are.
“The use of mental health powers of detention should be confined to the purposes of treatment. But the Government wants to be able to detain someone who is mentally disordered even when the treatment would have no benefit.
“Combined with the idea that someone could be classed as mentally ill on the grounds of their religious beliefs, it is a very worrying scenario.”
Indeed, the whole “indefinite detention” process (which Americans living on American soil are subject to) can be based on circular reasoning:
The government’s indefinite detention policy – stripped of it’s spin – is literally insane, and based on circular reasoning. Stripped of p.r., this is the actual policy:
- If you are an enemy combatant or a threat to national security, we will detain you indefinitely until the war is over
- It is a perpetual war, which will never be over
- Neither you or your lawyers have a right to see the evidence against you, nor to face your accusers
- But trust us, we know you are an enemy combatant and a threat to national security
- We may torture you (and try to cover up the fact that you were tortured), because you are an enemy combatant, and so basic rights of a prisoner guaranteed by the Geneva Convention don’t apply to you
- Since you admitted that you’re a bad guy (while trying to tell us whatever you think we want to hear to make the torture stop), it proves that we should hold you in indefinite detention
See how that works?
This is an analogy. We are not accusing psych wards of using torture. However, they do often use powerful psychiatric drugs on patients … which can elicit false confessions.
Are we going to slide into Soviet levels of psychiatric detention of political dissidents? Unless the spread of psychiatric detention without due process of law is checked, the mere belief that the government is interfering with your liberty may become grounds for locking you away.
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But, wait! Didn't Dear Comrade sign a letter promising not to do anything bad with these Dictastor Powerz?
What are things coming to here in Pyongpyang?
I must go to a rally.
I Was Silent When They Came for You … So There Was No One Left to Help When They Came for Me
It is absolutely incredible.
Well, I lived under the Stalin sadistic and schizophrenic regime. The situation was so bad that even Stalin’s own close associates could not take it anymore. So, they have killed him. People just could not continue to live this way. Nobody was safe. Then, under the Nikita Khrushchev system, things did change: people were not indiscriminately arrested, tortures stopped. It was still a totalitarian state but people believed in a justice system. Consequently, for a while the Soviet Union was safe. Well, the same happened in China after the Mao death.
Back in the Soviet Union, between the Nikita Khrushchev rain and the collapse of the Soviet Union, the State did use mental institutions to silence its most vocal opponents. This practice was very selective and was directed against very few most prominent dissidents. Unfortunately for the USSR, these polices antagonized the entire Soviet intellectual elite against the State. The State became doomed.
Today, the Western societies are intellectually bankrupt. Following the fall of the Roman Empire, the Western world rapidly moved to the Dark Ages. It appears that the history is about to repeat itself one again. We are rapidly moving in this direction.
GW - On the assumption that you have superior search capability - there's a great Solzenyitzen quote about the inmates in the gulag, with 20/20 hindsight discussing what they should have done when the secret police came for them. Basicly saying they, neighbors, etc. should have banded together rather than die of frostbite and starvation in the gulag.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
- The Gulag Archipelago, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
The poor Russian public had no guns to fight back.
Thanks RH. I'll keep that.
My pleasure.
Suppose the normal staff sees what is happening in "Bulk" and decides that they were not going to remain in that Occupation?
Some of these places, there are layers of security in various forms to ensure no one they don't want can get out. This is not 100 years ago, with the drugs availible today... they just get a needle and there you are. Empty.
Let's say the town did surround your hospital. All of them in turn will be carted off and peace restored.
Then what? Oh yes... the disinfecting and cleaning of the net of these kinds of discussions.
And when that is complete... even the children will never know.
I don't know about you but the Book "Ender's Game" was quite thought provoking.
Enders Game by Orson Scott Card ... excellent book by excellent author.
Excellent, everyone should copy that and email it to everyone you know.
One million "stop and frisks" performed every year in NYC. Justification is being male, black/brown and/or poor. Professed Lovers of "Liberty" clearly don't give a shit. Likewise regarding the head beating of OWS protestors.
We have more people in prison than any other country on Earth.
When the inspiration is transparently nothing more than to make sure it doesn't become "people like us," maybe it's already too late.
Questioned? You call forcible arrest and forcible medication being questioned? Questioned is when they come to your door, knock, have a polite conversation and leave. That act is torn right from the pages of The Gulag Archipeligo.
Or when the fed-critters invite the "Honorable" Mr. Corzine in to explain how hard accounting is. Especially when that damn O'Brien won't say a word.
Ask Adriane Schoolcraft.
Tossed in a psych ward for six days by NYC cops because he recorded, you guessed it, corrupt NYC cops in action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft
Thanks ... I'll add to the main post.
Anyone else have specific examples?
Look up Ezra Pound and what led to his institutionalization.
what can we hope to gain in this late hour by enumerating the litany of abuses committed by the crown? perhaps only to awaken those still unable to see the obvious - a valid task indeed, but perhaps codifying analysis and philosophy would serve the cause of a free humanity better - as such a litany is both long and full of typical examples - yet longer is this list of unreported cases.
i need no evidence any longer, there is already enough, no bullet point list of cases need be furnished nor cases made; already there is a more evidence than any man could really examine in a life time.
People start becoming awake when they don't have food it their mouth or see their own children starving...Unfortunately..
I dare TPTB to make the people who they have made dependent on them...Independent....
Let's roll MF'ers...Take it all away! Please!..Show them that there is no real system..no real society..Just some greedy scum at the top!
Show those peasants what you've got, if you have any balls....You elite pussies.
I like your style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R07cCydCeY
Now I have watch the whole movie....I never laughed so much while I still had my straight jacket on..Thanks "Dude"..
It's a cult classic, it's in my top ten of all time. Check out Lebowskifest.com when you finish watching it.
Now we know where to put the politicians.
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http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/21/article-1298295346886-0D4B291E000005DC-538470_322x462.jpg
Gah, I hope I don't get indefinitely questioned for that one. It's a stuffed doll you humorless government twats!
"Anyone else have specific examples?"
Not really a "political views" story, but another military man thrown in the psych ward by police.
Shaun Day, an active duty Navy SEAL, was tossed in the psych ward after NYPD found him in possession of a 9mm pistol:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/arrested_guy_the_real_seal_...
They no longer shoot the messenger; they medicate him.
Unless his shrink repeatedly warns the authorities about their client. Then they let the guy go shoot up a movie theatre or something...........
Until he/she recants, then they quietly dissappear.
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Some day Washington's Blog will cease, just stop out of the blue. We'll later find out that he's been tossed in the nuthouse.
Nah, GW is a statist at heart, therefore he still inadvertently supports fedgov terrorism in his incoherence.
As long as he continues to fuel the fake divide and conquer rhetoric that are elections, his place in the system is secure.
I keep hoping he'll read some Rothbard and snap out his fog, but I'm not holding my breath in anticipation.
That said, thanks for this article GW.
And thanks to the men and women of OathKeepers, who are supporting Brandon Raub, with the rallying cry, "Charge him or release him!"
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/08/20/former-marine-sergeant-victim-of-...
it makes me cringe
if we could just wake up enough people though
Who would want to rule the world? Why would they? What would their motive be? What would be "in it for them?" Perhaps never being the target of annihilation again most probably.
A total of 127 nations refused entry of Jewish refugees during the holocaust. All of them who attended the conference organized by FDR to deal with the "Jewish situation" said they'd pass, including America.
That Frankie is why the moneychangers want to rule the world, own media, own politicians, control the currency.
Jewish elite bankers did rule the world before the holocaust.
They have never been any good for jewish people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
And....have their own little country to escape to that won't extradite them -- if they bring enough money with them.
in #NWO occupied America the DSM and mengele-like officials say when its time for the shocktherapy
The Brandon Raub case is going to be a huge news item as soon as it gains momentum. The best coverage right now is on Youtube (plus Alex Jones and some others are keeping an eye on it). I am thankful that Adam Kokesh (also a freedom loving former Marine) has picked up on this. I hope to see hundreds of people outside the Virgina hospital where he is being detained by this weekend. Here are some links:
Interview with his Brandon's mom outside the hospital: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIlL1pq1Fhc
Adam's interview with Brandon while in the hospital: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX1EvM6XksM&feature=relmfu
Keep watching and spreading the word about this, it's going to be a big story.
yeah and heres the tolley interview with his mom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kx9GDuieVQ&feature=plcp
i guess im much less concerned with this case than the underlying phenomenology - i think weve almost all gone through the same stages as raub but we didnt get pinched or etc.
author below is looking for specific examples of other cases, but really, the litany is endless and no mere enumeration of cases histories will suffice for the real task at hand
been running the story since day one man
THOUGHT CRIME IS DEATH
big news to whom? you expect to see this on the bank cartel owned main stream media?
you're a buffoon. any fox news freedom correspondent who talks about this will get sacked eventually.
this shit is kept on the blogosphere, to simmer and stew.
bancrptlaw....imo the internet is a much more powerful source than "tv"....so it doesnt matter if the msm covers it....my 17 yr. old knows about this but has no idea what fox, cnn, etc are ...so fuck em, we dont need em....
ALL of TV is total shit. The people paying for cable and sat TV enable and enpower The Matrix. They are sheep who's viewership enables their serfdom.
Cut out cable tv last week, so far so good. Gal at the cable company asked me why I was "switching", I told her "I am not switching, I am tired of paying for all the crap on TV". She just gave me a blank stare in response.
I finally cancelled DISH last week, even after the rep dug down deep and offerred me a whole 15% off my current bill.
I told the guy that it was still a beyond stupid price for TV that I rarely ever watched anymore. (I was down to sports only)
He then offered me a "local package" with a few dish channels for $15 a month. I laughed at him, noting that I didn't need to spend any money "per month" for local channels.
I haven't watched "TV" in eight years except when I visit someone who has their tv on. I've seen what they call "news." Micheal Jackson's grandmother stops communicating with a few people and it makes national news ??? That's news ? What a joke ! The programs look like they are targeting retards. The commercials make me want to puke. Talk about psy-ops....
I was getting close to having an "Elvis moment" with my TV, so for the safety of our TV set I cut the cable. We do have a Netflixs subscription, and I like to watch Youtube videos on it, too. There was no way I would make it through this election season without doing some harm to the set.
That was the same attitude people had when the Fast and Furious story broke in the alt. media, now look at that story. No my friend this one has the potential to grow. Plus, it's right next to DC, which gives the story an extra spotlight.
If more than a couple hundred people show up this weekend to support Brandon, I think you will see it grow from a local story, to a national story. They have him detained for 30 more days, plenty of time to gain momentum. Adam Kokesh has a pretty large following in that area, I think you will see a decent crowd show up in support.
i am not convinced that this is not a psy-op. something is off about this story... the government would like nothing better than for some small group to declare open war so that big brother can unleash the police state. this has the feelings of an early stage of another false flag. paranoid? maybe... but just look around.
it isn't necessarily 'paranoia' but you made the same "psy-ops" comment yesterday
again, you have no idea what this case is about; and reading this may not be a huge help, unfortunately
we have you down already for being a nut-case, ok?
you are expecting someone to prove a negative about a "psy-op"? i am not convinced that this is not a psy-op
if you could think straight, you would certainly realize just how fuking funny that is
thought experiment ok?:> assume this is not a "psy-op"
what do you see then? what are the facts here and what is your understanding of what is happening if we "assume: it ISN'T psy-op for a day or two, ok?
can you think about the actual facts as we have them and the situ involved or have you ORI'd out 4evah on grand mystic themes based on essays such as these?
if it's not open war, police state, and false flag... what else might be happening here?
perhaps this will help:> do you see psy-ops in your personal life?
:> why would anyone want to do that?
:> is it reasonable that YOU are being "checked out" psychologically too?
:> would you LIKE to be convinced that this is not a psy-op?
...of course you would; we understand...
maybe this will get thru:> what is the legal power of the state (of virginia, btw) here?
or:> why is this guy on 30-day psych hold/evaluation?
:> what EXACTLY does the state of virginia see as the problem?
:> how did raub 'cause' that state of virginia to do this to him?
:> what EXACTLY is the problem here from the point of view of the mental health professionals, the secretService, the FBI, theCorps, and the peeps who see raub as "leadership"?
these questions can be readily and easily addressed and answered without psy-op
rilly
two years from now, it would not surprise me at all if no one had attempted it yet, here on zH, even tho it is quite simple as is almost everything people who watch TV cannot, for some reason (or other), comprehend
psy-ops will do that to people ya know...
the video is staged, with crappy acting... so are the other videos posted on this. open your eyes, or perhaps you lack the wattage to see it...
Hope & Change with the islamic. The Joint Chiefs, Pentagon, brass, CIA, FBI, judges and Congress are such cowards and traitors for not standing up to baby Allah and the elites.
Look at the first video posted above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIlL1pq1Fhc
The mom, sister and brother are an inspiration.
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Second video - I guess the only thing I find unusual is that Brandon is so complacent with his one month involuntary incarceration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX1EvM6XksM&feature=relmfu
Who would want to be locked up for a month like that?