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NEIL ARMSTRONG...

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I remember watching Neil Armstrong land on the Moon...And I remember the days when our national heroes looked like this...

 

JULY 1969
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And not like this...

JAMIE KNIEVEL

or this...

MOTHER FLEECEM

 

or this...

UNCLE SCAM

 

Yet here we are...

 

JULY 2012
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Rest in Peace Neil Armstrong...

 

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Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:04 | 2738383 tip e. canoe
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from the McGowan link:

"Perhaps it’s not surprising then that NASA now takes the position that the original footage has been missing since “sometime in the late 1970s.”

 Unfortunately, it isn’t just the video footage that is missing. Also allegedly beamed back from the Moon was voice data, biomedical monitoring data, and telemetry data to monitor the location and mechanical functioning of the spaceship. All of that data, the entire alleged record of the Moon landings, was on the 13,000+ reels that are said to be ‘missing.’ Also missing, according to NASA and its various subcontractors, are the original plans/blueprints for the lunar modules. And for the lunar rovers. And for the entire multi-sectioned Saturn V rockets.

There is, therefore, no way for the modern scientific community to determine whether all of that fancy 1960s technology was even close to being functional or whether it was all for show. Nor is there any way to review the physical record, so to speak, of the alleged flights. We cannot, for example, check the fuel consumption throughout the flights to determine what kind of magic trick NASA used to get the boys there and back with less than 1% of the required fuel. And we will never, it would appear, see the original, first-generation video footage."

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 11:58 | 2738563 Real Estate Geek
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I wouldn't waste an erg of energy doing this, but there's a workaround.  Just reverse engineer the Saturn V, LM, etc.  We've got two or three Saturn V's literally lying around.  And the LM for Apollo 18 is also in a museum somewhere.  So are all of the CM's.

And for those who think the moon landings were faked, answer this:  "Why didn't the Soviets expose the so-called fraud?"  It would have been an epic PR coup, so you know that they would have called "bullshit" if they could have.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 13:35 | 2738741 Freddie
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Just reverse engineer the Saturn V, LM, etc.  We've got two or three Saturn V's literally lying around.  And the LM for Apollo 18 is also in a museum somewhere.  So are all of the CM's.

Sadly all the Germans who made NASA, Mercury, Gemini and Apollo work are dead.   Once reason I think it was real is they had all the Germans there running the key shit.  The old guy who strapped them all in at almost every flight  was Guenther Wendt. He ruled the NASA launch pad.

If it was all fake - why did they need the Germans?  They could have had some fukking Gomer Pyle Pfc running the show or some dumbass Teamsters (who were at Cape Canaveral moving some of the shit around) who voted Obama 2008.  That c***s**ker Democrat John Glenn called Wendt the "pad Fuhrer."  John Glenn is a real POS.

The only time Wendt was not on a Mercury, Gemini or Apollo flight was Apollo 1 due to a contractor change.  anyone know what happened on Apollo 1? 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 23:23 | 2740059 Curt W
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My last name is Wendt, but no relation that I know of, maybe several generations back a common.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 17:49 | 2739162 JohnG
Sun, 08/26/2012 - 16:01 | 2738972 Sokhmate
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they needed the Germans' knowledge to advance the other type of rockets

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:04 | 2738260 Boris Alatovkrap
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Frank Zappa is on Boris iPod! Zappa is product of US Militarily Industry Compact?! Maybe is giving name "Moon Unit" not joke?

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 06:56 | 2738203 negative rates
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Yea, and that was a pretty big lake they landed in too. I could see the battle ship in the background as they floated into a wavy lake, placed in a dingy, and rowed back to shore. It was an event I will never forget.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 00:35 | 2738007 francis_sawyer
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My God... It's full of stars (oh wait)!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 15:58 | 2738969 Goldilocks
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"My God... It's full of stars (oh wait)!"

~//~

Stars On 45 - Stars On 45 (Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bGQ1-Gmoso (4:50)

Stars On 45 Presents : The Beatles (Full Version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOuZmEKmtWQ (14:54)

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 00:45 | 2738011 Freddie
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Funny you mention 2001.  It was state of the art animation at the time and still looks good.  The drooling f*kktards who think it was a hoax can tell us how they pulled off the LEM landing animation with Armstrong's last second corrections, flying on manual with computer shutdown and low fuel.   No way they had animation that could fake that landing. The tards always talking about the walking on the moon and never address the LEM descent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sTBIr65cL_E#!

Note the poor American kids in Vietnam fighting JFK/LBJ's Vietnam War.  Nothing changes.  

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 06:21 | 2738187 mick_richfield
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No way they had animation that could fake that landing.

Indeed.

When the little moon-tug is landing on the lunar surface, Kubrick had shots of the interior of the cockpit.  On its screens there were flashing computer graphics -- circles, grids, text.  Stuff that I could draw now using Inkscape, for free, in 10 minutes.

One of the movie's fans wrote a letter that ended up getting published in a paperback book The Making of 2001.  He breathlessly asked if those simple flashing displays had been Real Computer Graphics .

"No," the studio responded.  "Sorry -- we couldn't afford that.  It was just -- you know -- artwork."

 

That lunar tug landing had one of the only mistakes in the movie, by the way.  The dust that it kicked up drifted down like dust does in air, rather than falling down like dust does in vacuum.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 07:41 | 2738236 Boris Alatovkrap
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Mr. Richfield, you are believing government lie because Mr. Kubrick is affording to make artwork? Because vacuum is suck up dust? Mr. Richfield show me original telemetry tape and Boris is buy you drink!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:04 | 2738323 mick_richfield
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I'll tell you something that troubles me in this direction, though. 

It could be viewed as evidence toward the fake-landings theory -- or something -- but it's not telemetry or shadow angles in photographs.

Why did Neil Armstrong never give speeches?  Was he shy?  John Glenn became a freaking Senator, and Neil didn't even want to do the lecture circuit?

To me it seemed like he became a recluse the day he got home.  Why was that?

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:46 | 2739871 Boris Alatovkrap
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Mr Richard, now are think critically! Maybe is not conclusive, but making questions is important! Other question can ask - why inflation is bad? is bad on citizenry or on bank? why is federal reserve ridicule gold standard? why Fed interest rate is zero? why is LIBOR manipulation? why is spending $Billion to get lunar but is not worth return in years? why is Brittany Spears shave head?

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:56 | 2738314 mick_richfield
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I'm curious -- what Is it about the raw telemetry that would even be convincing?

Is it the original SSTV signal?  If people had the means and desire to make a convincing simulation of the lunar surface -- how would a narrow-band monochrome TV signal of that sound stage be convincing to you?

At what point in the program do believers in this fakery think it started to be fake?  Was Gemini 4 real?

If the guys at NASA had known that someday they could get drinks for these tapes -- I think they would have kept them.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:49 | 2739882 Boris Alatovkrap
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Telemetry data and video data is interweave on telemetry tape. Original broadcast is not true telemetry feed but is making video by camera over tube display, rebroadcast by radio in Australia. Must relay because earth is curvature. Must use camera because telemetry video data is non compliance. Is make Russian 6-bit computing look genius.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:30 | 2738432 Husk-Erzulie
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James Webb trying to tell Kennedy basically "Dude, we can't do your moon thing because we don't have the science.  Neither did the Russians, they knew it was a big, fabulous fake (as Boris mentioned).

Where is the point in the program where the fakery begins?  All of it beyond LEO.

It is important that Americans come to terms with this precisely because it is so difficult to accept.  It's a lot like understanding building 7 in a way, a big fat deal breaker and a tectonic shift in understanding and outlook.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:51 | 2739889 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is apartment in Block C-953. Where Building 7 is located?

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 07:34 | 2738228 Precious
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Boris just put 9" floppy in alpha version Lisa.  No problem, technology for it.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 07:36 | 2738234 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is on 12" DEC hard disk, but size is not matter.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 05:10 | 2738143 Likstane
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Show us the lunar landing module.  It should still be there, right.   This is what happens when you watch too much TEEVEE.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 07:00 | 2738207 OldPhart
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No. It shouldn't still be there, at least half of it.  What should still be there would be the base of the lander.  The module was rocketed back to mate with the command module and then jettisoned.

Back in 69 I was in the fourth grade at Fulton Elementary School in Aurora, Colorado and attending summer school (not that my grades were bad, but I was an Air Force brat with aspirations of the Air Force Academy).  As a kid we moved a LOT and running 'loose' just didn't happen.  That and my dad was overseas 10 out of my first 18 years.

I had been bombarded with television showing the deaths of Americans in Viet Nam, the dispicable reception of Viet Nam Vets as they stepped off the planes, the semi-glorification of the Hippie lifestyle, and the rise of what I considered, even then, as the traitorous anti-war movement among the military (I wasn't aware that they were drafted). 

My little world had started to spin out of control. 

We still had a milkman, for God's sakes, Lil Abner, Dick Tracy and Superman in the funny pages.  There were still people at Sacred Heart Church that had personally walked from whereever as pioneer kids.  And we had a growing fringe of clanging radicals that even started permeate our radio...Beetles, Rolling Stones, and Peter, Paul & Mary.

In Colorado, Armstrong stepped on the moon about 8PM, I had been allowed to stay up to watch it.

Even today, his footstep on the moon seemed to fill me with a faith in a society and our nation that we could do anything.  And it was reaffirmed with Apollo 13.

Since then I've become a little older and a lot more jaded, but the kid in me still knows that feeling.  Sadly, I haven't had a similar feeling since the aftermath of 9/11 when the entire nation was unhyphenated Americans waiting to find out who committed the crime.

I don't wish for anything like 9/11, but we need to get that feeling back and recognize that our government has devolved into the antithesis of what we, as people, truly stand for and destroy it as the parasite it has become.  And we must terminate those that own and control it.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 06:18 | 2738183 Boris Alatovkrap
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Hubble Space Microscope is to show LLM in 2009. Boris is exciting but cannot connect to internet until 2010. But is gathering family. Everyone is laughing when Boris is show fuzzy dot. Same fuzzy dot is making Colon Powell to see WMD in Iraq but is common knowledge is already in Syria. Russian is laughing last!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 06:29 | 2738190 mick_richfield
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Maybe Boris could have taken a break from his diesel-flavored Stolichnaya long enough to also take a look at the pictures of Apollo 15 footprints on the lunar surface that were taken by Chandrayaan-1 in that same year.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 07:22 | 2738222 Boris Alatovkrap
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You are buy Boris drink?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 00:02 | 2740117 Almost Solvent
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Your citizenship bubbles up

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 00:10 | 2740125 akak
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You mean, "Your citizenship blobs up".

Blobbing is the correct verb to use in relation to citizenism. 

Unless one is referring to Chinese Citizenism, of course, in which case "excretorializationizing" is the correct verb.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 00:40 | 2738010 otto skorzeny
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it was all that damned light pollution from the alien cities on Mars.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 00:10 | 2737991 williambanzai7
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But the burgers looked good...

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 23:12 | 2738464 e2thex
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There really are people who think the landing was a hoax?

 

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 04:22 | 2738125 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"Neil Armstrong, Neil Armstrong,
he's the head of a large corporation,
but I knew him when he was the hero of the nation."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7bS2fPqAYI

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 00:45 | 2738013 i-dog
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Yummmm ... pepper steak!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 02:24 | 2738075 economics9698
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I remember in the 4th grade being ushered into the gym in Pontiac, Michigan with 300 other children watching Pete Conrad and Richard Gordon land on the moon on November 14, 1969.  It was not Neil Armstrong, who had landed on July 16, 1969 during summer break but the principal, Mr. Griepentrog, had a urgency about him, he seemed to sense America was becoming another has been nation and he wanted to prove to us students that America was a great nation. 

This was 1969, parent were discovering government welfare was pretty good, food stamps, some AFDC, and some weed and it was smooth sailing living off other peoples money.  LBJ had started the theft and Nixon surrendered to the theft without so much as a whimper.  The Summer of Love was two years history and the muscle cars were peaking out at all time highs.

It was a time when irrational behavior was the norm and everything was cool as long as you did not know a Vietnam Vet.  That was a drag, death and all.  Other than that everyone was cool as long as you supported free love, the movement, dressed cool, and did not question the hippies.

Our principal sensed that America as he knew it was slipping away.  He was clueless as to why other than it simply was not the way it was anymore.  The moon landing was his attempt to “mold” us 10-year olds that the America way was red, white, and blue forever!

We crowded around the 19” black and white television in the gym, all 300 of us, sitting in manufactured amazement as Pete Conrad left the lunar module and walked on the moon.  None of us really comprehended the significance of it, that would be years later.  We were simply appreciative of the chance to get out of class and socialize with our mates. 

We watched the show slightly entertained, but impresses with how full of life our principal was with the effort of the astronauts.  He was bubbling over with enthusiasm, an incredibly rare sight, hoping to impress upon us the significance of the event, but alas with little impact. 

I will always remember my principal and his enthusiasm on that day.  It wasn’t until decades latter I really understood what the significance of that day was, not the moon landing, but of my principal hoping in some way to influence my generation to grow up to be proud to be an  American, hoping that we would be decent, honest, patriotic adults when we became adults.  That was what impressed us on that day, not the moon landing.

I miss that principal and that generation that had values and virtue.  I miss them terribly.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 13:08 | 2738692 Freddie
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+1

Great post.   It is amazing how some of us at a young age were so perceptive.   You got it.   I wonder how many others who were there that day even remembered.  

Today, all the principals care about is their union benefits and grabbing more loot during the next contract negotiation.   Sad.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 10:22 | 2740782 BigJim
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No mention of 'the Muslim'!

+1 for that alone.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:06 | 2738326 BigJim
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The MIC put a man on the moon and all I got was this lousy frypan.

The moon malarkies - though spectacular - were just more MIC corporate welfare... an Olympics for the aerospace industry, if you will, fuelled by coercive wealth extraction from the mesmerised sheep.

I must admit I would jump at the chance to be an astronaut, though ;-)

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 03:31 | 2738107 financial apoca...
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dude how fucking old are you econ9698

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 02:49 | 2738079 williambanzai7
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If you want to single out a period in history when the incline steepened in the wrong direction, 69 and 70 are a good place to start.

Apollo 12

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 04:16 | 2738124 Atoyota
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Actually start the decline in 1960, it was only more noticeable by 1970.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 06:57 | 2738176 Wakanda
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In my 'hood it's been downhill since 1492.

At least the early Scandinavian explorers were fun and courageous.  The Spaniards and English - not so much.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 07:26 | 2738227 Optimusprime
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Too bad they wantonly murdered that first batch of "Skraelings".  Think of the might-have beens.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 07:52 | 2738245 Wakanda
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Sometimes they fought, sometimes they fucked, sometimes both at the same time.  Many Native Americans in the Great Lakes region have Nordic genes mixed in.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 03:47 | 2738112 EricArthurBlair
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“America was never innocent. We popped our cherry on the boat over and looked back with no regrets. You can't ascribe our fall from grace to any single event or set of circumstances. You can't lose what you lacked at conception.
Mass-market nostalgia gets you hopped up for a past that never existed. Hagiography sanctifies shuck-and-jive politicians and reinvents their expedient gestures as moments of great moral weight. Our continuing narrative line is blurred past truth and hindsight. Only a reckless verisimilitude can set that line straight.
The real Trinity of Camelot was Look Good, Kick Ass, Get Laid. Jack Kennedy was the mythological front man for a particularly juicy slice of our history. He called a slick line and wore a world-class haircut. He was Bill Clinton minus pervasive media scrutiny and a few rolls of flab.
Jack got whacked at the optimum moment to assure his sainthood. Lies continue to swirl around his eternal flame. It's time to dislodge his urn and cast light on a few men who attended his ascent and facilitated his fall.
They were rouge cops and shakedown artist. They were wiretappers and soldiers of fortune and faggot lounge entertainers. Had one second of their lives deviated off course, American History would not exist as we know it.
It's time to demythologize an era and build a new myth from the gutter to the stars. It's time to embrace bad men and the price they paid to secretly define there time.
Here's to them.”
? James Ellroy, American Tabloid

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:28 | 2738279 tip e. canoe
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"Mass-market nostalgia gets you hopped up for a past that never existed"

how true, wees been conned from the cradle.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 06:45 | 2738195 Boris Alatovkrap
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1907, is Great Market Crash, JPM banker agent of Rothschilds.

1908, Aldrich senator agent of Rothschilds is make Finance Bill.

1909, Woodrow Wilson, President of Princeton, Rothschilds agent is make favor to bill.

1912, Wilson elected.

1913, Philander Knox, Rothschilds agent is ratify Amendment XVI, bank can tax citizen income to pay interest.

1913, Wilson sign Fictional Reserve Banking Act.

1914, Rothschilds can have finance to make war between Russia and Germany.

1915, German is sinking Lucitania, Wilson instructed not to enter war.

1917, Wilson enter war.

1918, Kaiser Willhelm instructed to leave Germany.

1919, Wilson is sending to France to make New World Orderly.

1929, Market crash, President FDR is making TV broadcast (no, is Joe Biden joke!)

1933, Bank Holiday, Gold is making illegal.

1933, Reichstagg Fire, blame on communists but is Goebell's secret passage to apartment.

1933, Hitler is making Article 48 to destroy communists, make fuhrer.

1939, Ribbentrapp/Molotov Secret Treaty. Rothschild banker is betray, threaten Hitler.

1942, Nazi is attack Russia. Where is American?

1944, America is make Pearl Harbour soft target, Japs attack to make infamy.

1945, America is build Atomic Bomb, win wars

1946, Bretton Woods, SDR, Global Reserve Currency... Rothschilds plan complete!

1949, Boris is born in Leningrad.

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1963, JFK is make Treasury Note for Silver Redemption

1963, JFK is shot with Zig Zag Bullet, Killer is killed, killer of killer is killed.

1963, Vietnam Dzian killed

1964, Macnamara and LBJ is imaginary Tonkin Golf Accident, American boys is sent to defend Rothschild DuPont holdings in Vietnam.

1969, Buzz, Neil is drunk in Nevada.

1972, Nixon is find Knox empty, dishonor on Bretton Woods

1972-2008, Lies, lies, Brittany Spears, lies and more lies...

2008, Rooster is coming to cook.

2008-today, Cooked!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 19:50 | 2739545 ShakaZulu
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"2008-today, Cooked!"  Rooster is not cooked.  Goose is.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:40 | 2738449 Wakanda
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When is rooster served for eat?  Wakanda no is vegetatation.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:25 | 2738277 tip e. canoe
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haha you should make one of those 60 second stick figure slideshows of this...

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 07:55 | 2738247 goat
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Dude, leave Britney alone...

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