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Sleeping With the Devil: How U.S. and Saudi Backing of Al Qaeda Led to 9/11

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Front row, from left: Major Gen. Hamid Gul, director general of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), Director of Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Willian Webster; Deputy Director for Operations Clair George; an ISI colonel; and senior CIA official, Milt Bearden at a Mujahideen training camp in North-West Frontier Province of Pakistan in 1987. (source RAWA)

Ronald Reagan meets Afghan Mujahideen Commanders at the White House in 1985 (Reagan Archives)

Preface: The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom - noted:

Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.

Odom also said:

By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.

(audio here). Background here.

This essay does not address any "inside job" theories for 9/11 or other terrorist attacks on America. Instead, it focuses on the fact that the virtually continuous U.S. backing of Al Qaeda terrorists since the late 1970s has led to blowback which has come back to bite us numerous times.

We Created Al Qaeda to Fight the Soviets in Afghanistan

Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski admitted on CNN that the U.S. organized and supported Bin Laden and the other originators of “Al Qaeda” in the 1970s to fight the Soviets. Brzezinski told Al Qaeda's forefathers - the Mujahadin:

We know of their deep belief in god - that they're confident that their struggle will succeed. - That land over-there is yours - and you'll go back to it some day, because your fight will prevail, and you'll have your homes, your mosques, back again, because your cause is right, and god is on your side.

CIA director and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates confirmed in his memoir that the U.S. backed the Mujahadin in the 1970s. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton agrees:

MSNBC reported in 1998:

As his unclassified CIA biography states, bin Laden left Saudi Arabia to fight the Soviet army in Afghanistan after Moscow’s invasion in 1979. By 1984, he was running a front organization known as Maktab al-Khidamar - the MAK - which funneled money, arms and fighters from the outside world into the Afghan war.   What the CIA bio conveniently fails to specify (in its unclassified form, at least) is that the MAK was nurtured by Pakistan’s state security services, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency, or ISI, the CIA’s primary conduit for conducting the covert war against Moscow’s occupation.   ***   The CIA, concerned about the factionalism of Afghanistan ... found that Arab zealots who flocked to aid the Afghans were easier to “read” than the rivalry-ridden natives. While the Arab volunteers might well prove troublesome later, the agency reasoned, they at least were one-dimensionally anti-Soviet for now. So bin Laden, along with a small group of Islamic militants from Egypt, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria and Palestinian refugee camps all over the Middle East, became the “reliable” partners of the CIA in its war against Moscow.   ***   To this day, those involved in the decision to give the Afghan rebels access to a fortune in covert funding and top-level combat weaponry continue to defend that move in the context of the Cold War. Sen. Orrin Hatch, a senior Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee making those decisions, told my colleague Robert Windrem that he would make the same call again today even knowing what bin Laden would do subsequently.   “It was worth it,” he said.   “Those were very important, pivotal matters that played an important role in the downfall of the Soviet Union,” he said.

Indeed, the U.S. started backing Al Qaeda's forefathers even before the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. As Brzezinski told Le Nouvel Observateur in a 1998 interview:

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.   ***   Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists? B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

The Washington Post reported in 2002:

The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings   ....   The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books ....

The Council on Foreign Relations notes:

The 9/11 Commission report (PDF) released in 2004 said some of Pakistan’s religious schools or madrassas served as “incubators for violent extremism.” Since then, there has been much debate over madrassas and their connection to militancy.   ***   New madrassas sprouted, funded and supported by Saudi Arabia and U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, where students were encouraged to join the Afghan resistance.

And see this. Veteran journalist Robert Dreyfuss writes:

For half a century the United States and many of its allies saw what I call the “Islamic right” as convenient partners in the Cold War.   ***   In the decades before 9/11, hard-core activists and organizations among Muslim fundamentalists on the far right were often viewed as allies for two reasons, because they were seen a fierce anti-communists and because the opposed secular nationalists such as Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser, Iran’s Mohammed Mossadegh.   ***   By the end of the 1950s, rather than allying itself with the secular forces of progress in the Middle East and the Arab world, the United States found itself in league with Saudi Arabia’s Islamist legions. Choosing Saudi Arabia over Nasser’s Egypt was probably the single biggest mistake the United States has ever made in the Middle East.   A second big mistake … occurred in the 1970s, when, at the height of the Cold War and the struggle for control of the Middle East, the United States either supported or acquiesced in the rapid growth of Islamic right in countries from Egypt to Afghanistan. In Egypt, Anwar Sadat brought the Muslim Brotherhood back to Egypt. In Syria, the United States, Israel, and Jordan supported the Muslim Brotherhood in a civil war against Syria. And … Israel quietly backed Ahmed Yassin and the Muslim Brotherhood in the West Bank and Gaza, leading to the establishment of Hamas.   Still another major mistake was the fantasy that Islam would penetrate the USSR and unravel the Soviet Union in Asia. It led to America’s support for the jihadists in Afghanistan. But … America’s alliance with the Afghan Islamists long predated the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 and had its roots in CIA activity in Afghanistan in the 1960s and in the early and mid-1970s. The Afghan jihad spawned civil war in Afghanistan in the late 1980s, gave rise to the Taliban, and got Osama bin Laden started on building Al Qaeda.   Would the Islamic right have existed without U.S. support? Of course. This is not a book for the conspiracy-minded. But there is no question that the virulence of the movement that we now confront—and which confronts many of the countries in the region, too, from Algeria to India and beyond—would have been significantly less had the United States made other choices during the Cold War.

In other words, if the U.S. and our allies hadn’t backed the radical violent Muslims instead of more stable, peaceful groups in the Middle East, radical Islam wouldn’t have grown so large. Pakistani nuclear scientist and peace activist Perez Hoodbhoy writes:

Every religion, including Islam, has its crazed fanatics. Few in numbers and small in strength, they can properly be assigned to the “loony” section. This was true for Islam as well until 1979, the year of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Indeed, there may well have been no 911 but for this game-changer.   ***   Officials like Richard Perle, Assistant Secretary of Defense, immediately saw Afghanistan not as the locale of a harsh and dangerous conflict to be ended but as a place to teach the Russians a lesson. Such “bleeders” became the most influential people in Washington .   ***   The task of creating such solidarity fell upon Saudi Arabia, together with other conservative Arab monarchies. This duty was accepted readily and they quickly made the Afghan Jihad their central cause.... But still more importantly, to go heart and soul for jihad was crucial at a time when Saudi legitimacy as the guardians of Islam was under strong challenge by Iran, which pointed to the continued occupation of Palestine by America’s partner, Israel. An increasing number of Saudis were becoming disaffected by the House of Saud – its corruption, self-indulgence, repression, and closeness to the US. Therefore, the Jihad in Afghanistan provided an excellent outlet for the growing number of militant Sunni activists in Saudi Arabia, and a way to deal with the daily taunts of the Iranian clergy.   ***   The bleeders soon organized and armed the Great Global Jihad, funded by Saudi Arabia, and executed by Pakistan. A powerful magnet for militant Sunni activists was created by the US. The most hardened and ideologically dedicated men were sought on the logic that they would be the best fighters. Advertisements, paid for from CIA funds, were placed in newspapers and newsletters around the world offering inducements and motivations to join the Jihad.   American universities produced books for Afghan children that extolled the virtues of jihad and of killing communists. Readers browsing through book bazaars in Rawalpindi and Peshawar can, even today, sometimes find textbooks produced as part of the series underwritten by a USAID $50 million grant to the University of Nebraska in the 1980's . These textbooks sought to counterbalance Marxism through creating enthusiasm in Islamic militancy. They exhorted Afghan children to “pluck out the eyes of the Soviet enemy and cut off his legs”. Years after the books were first printed they were approved by the Taliban for use in madrassas - a stamp of their ideological correctness and they are still widely available in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.   At the international level, Radical Islam went into overdrive as its superpower ally, the United States, funneled support to the mujahideen. Ronald Reagan feted jihadist leaders on the White House lawn, and the U.S. press lionized them.

And the chief of the visa section at the U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia (J. Michael Springmann, who is now an attorney in private practice) says that the CIA insisted that visas be issued to Afghanis so they could travel to the U.S. to be trained in terrorism in the United States, and then sent back to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets.

1993 World Trade Center Bombing

New York District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau believed that the intelligence services could and should have stopped the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, but they were preoccupied with other issues cover. As well-known investigative journalist Robert I. Friedman wrote in New York Magazine in 1995:

Shiekh Omar Abdel Rahman commands an almost deified adoration and respect in certain Islamic circles. It was his 1980 fatwa – religious decree – condemning Anwar Sadat for making peace with Israel that is widely believed to be responsible for Sadat’s assassination a year later. (Rahman was subsequently tried but acquitted.)   ***   The CIA paid to send Abdel Rahman to Peshawar ‘to preach to the Afghans about the necessity of unity to overthrow the Kabul regime,’ according to Professor Rubin. By all accounts, Rahman was brilliant at inspiring the faithful.   As a reward for his services, the CIA gave the sheikh a one-year visa to the United States in May, 1990 – even though he was on a State Department terrorism watch list that should have barred him from the country.   After a public outcry in the wake of the World Trade Centre bombing, a State Department representative discovered that Rahman had, in fact, received four United States visas dating back to December 15, 1986. All were given to him by CIA agents acting as consular officers at American embassies in Khartoum and Cairo. The CIA officers claimed they didn’t know the sheikh was one of the most notorious political figures in the Middle East and a militant on the State Department’s list of undesirables. The agent in Khartoum said that when the sheikh walked in the computers were down and the Sudanese clerk didn’t bother to check the microfiche file.   Says one top New York investigator: ‘Left with the choice between pleading stupidity or else admitting deceit, the CIA went with stupidity.’   ***   The sheikh arrived in Brooklyn at a fortuitous time for the CIA. In the wake of the Soviet Union’s retreat from Afghanistan, Congress had slashed the amount of covert aid going to the mujaheddin. The international network of Arab-financed support groups became even more vital to the CIA, including the string of jihad offices that had been set up across America with the help of Saudi and American intelligence. To drum up support, the agency paved the way for veterans of the Afghan conflict to visit the centres and tell their inspirational war stories; in return, the centres collected millions of dollars for the rebels at a time when they needed it most.   There were jihad offices in Jersey City, Atlanta and Dallas, but the most important was the one in Brooklyn, called Alkifah – Arabic for ‘the struggle.’ That storefront became the de facto headquarters of the sheikh.   ***   On November 5, 1990, Rabbi Meir Kahane, an ultra-right-wing Zionist militant, was shot in the throat with a .357 magnum in a Manhattan hotel; El-Sayyid Nosair was gunned down by an off-duty postal inspector outside the hotel, and the murder weapon was found a few feet from his hand.   A subsequent search of Nosair’s Cliffside Park, New Jersey home turned up forty boxes of evidence – evidence that, had the D.A.’s office and the FBI looked at it more carefully, would have revealed an active terrorist conspiracy about to boil over in New York.   ***   In addition to discovering thousands of rounds of ammunition and hit lists with the names of New York judges and prosecutors, investigators found amongst the Nosair evidence classified U.S. military-training manuals.   ***   Also found amongst Nosair’s effects were several documents, letters and notebooks in Arabic, which when eventually translated would point to e terror conspiracy against the United States. The D.A.’s office shipped these, along with the other evidence, to the FBI’s office at 26 Federal Plaza. ‘We gave all this stuff to the bureau, thinking that they were well equipped,’ says one source close to the D.A.’s office. ‘After the World Trade Centre, we discovered they never translated the material.’   According to other sources familiar with the case, the FBI told District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau that Nosair was a lone gunman, not part of a broader conspiracy; the prosecution took this position at trial and lost, only convicting Nosair of gun charges. Morgenthau speculated the CIA may have encouraged the FBI not to pursue any other leads, these sources say. ‘The FBI lied to me,’ Morgenthau has told colleagues. ‘They’re supposed to untangle terrorist connections, but they can’t be trusted to do the job.’   Three years later, on the day the FBI arrested four Arabs for the World Trade Centre bombing, saying it had all of the suspects, Morgenthau’s ears pricked up. He didn’t believe the four were ‘self-starters,’ and speculated that there was probably a larger network as well as a foreign sponsor. He also had a hunch that the suspects would lead back to Sheikh Abdel Rahman. But he worried that the dots might not be connected because the U.S. government was protecting the sheikh for his help in Afghanistan. *** Nevertheless, some in the D.A.’s office believe that until the Ryder van exploded underneath New York’s tallest building, the sheikh and his men were being protected by the CIA. Morgenthau reportedly believes the CIA brought the sheikh to Brooklyn in the first place....   As far as can be determined, no American agency is investigating leads suggesting foreign-government involvement in the New York terror conspiracy. For example, Saudi intelligence has contributed to Sheikh Rahman’s legal-defence fund, according to Mohammed al-Khilewi, the former first secretary to the Saudi mission at the U.N.

Friedman notes that intelligence agents had possession of notes which should have linked all of these terrorists, but failed to connect the dots prior to 1993. CNN ran a special report in 1994 called "Terror Nation? U.S. Creation?", which noted - as summarized by Congressman Peter Deutsch:

Some Afghan groups that have had close affiliation with Pakistani Intelligence are believed to have been involved in the [1993] New York World Trade Center bombings.

  ***

  Pro-Western afghan officials ... officially warned the U.S. government about Hekmatyar no fewer than four times. The last warning delivered just days before the [1993] Trade Center attack." Speaking to former CIA Director Robert Gates, about Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Peter Arnett reports, "The Pakistanis showered Gulbuddin Hekmatyar with U.S. provided weapons and sang his praises to the CIA. They had close ties with Hakmatyar going back to the mid-1970's."

This is interesting because it is widely-acknowledged that Gulbuddin Hekmatyar was enthusiastically backed by the U.S. For example, U.S. News and World Report says:

[He was] once among America's most valued allies. In the 1980s, the CIA funneled hundreds of millions of dollars in weapons and ammunition to help them battle the Soviet Army during its occupation of Afghanistan. Hekmatyar, then widely considered by Washington to be a reliable anti-Soviet rebel, was even flown to the United States by the CIA in 1985.

As the New York Times, CBS News and others reported, an FBI informant involved in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center begged the FBI to substitute fake bomb power for real explosives, but his FBI handler somehow let real explosives be used.


Bosnia

As professor of strategy at the Naval War College and former National Security Agency intelligence analyst and counterintelligence officer John R. Schindler documents, the U.S. supported Bin Laden and other Al Qaeda terrorists in Bosnia.

2001

As reported by Newsweek, the New York Times and others, an FBI informant hosted and rented a room to 2 of the 9/11 hijackers in 2000 while they were in the U.S., but then failed to stop them. Indeed, former counter-terrorism boss Richard Clarke theorizes that top CIA brass tried to recruit the hijackers and turn them to our side, but were unsuccessful. And – when they realized had failed – they covered up their tracks so that the FBI would not investigate their illegal CIA activities , “malfeasance and misfeasance”, on U.S. soil. (The Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11 sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House.) One of the main trainers of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda worked at various times for the Green Berets, the CIA and the FBI. As former ABC News investigative reporter Peter Lance says (as summarized by Raw Story):

Ali Mohamed … was something of an al Qaeda super-spy who managed to work with terrorists, the Green Berets, the CIA and become an FBI informant, even while ensuring Osama bin Laden’s safe passage around the middle east.   ***   Mohamed … was actually responsible for writing portions of the terror network’s training manual and played a key role in the bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa which left over 200 dead…   “He believes that chagrin over the fact that bin Laden’s spy stole top-secret intelligence (including, for example, the positions of all Green Beret and SEAL units worldwide) led to a decision on high to bury the entire Able Danger intelligence program, which identified the Al Qaeda cell active in Brooklyn months before the 9/11 attacks, and also identified Ali Mohamed as a member of bin Laden’s inner circle as early as March 2000.”

Bloomberg reported in 2006:

Mohamed trained terrorists how to hijack airliners, bomb buildings and assassinate rivals. He created al-Qaeda cells in the U.S., even helping with fund raising. He also arranged meetings between bin Laden and Hezbollah leaders and scouted bombing targets, including U.S. embassies in East Africa. What makes it all especially disturbing is that during much of this time Mohamed was a U.S. citizen, an operative for the CIA and FBI, and a member of the U.S. Army.   ***   Mohamed's initial infiltration of the U.S. military came in 1981 when, at the age of 29, he participated in an exchange program at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, home of the Green Berets and Delta Force.   After returning to Egypt he was drummed out of that country's military because of his radical Islamic views. No matter. The CIA took him on in 1984, sending him to infiltrate a Hamburg mosque. There, Mohamed quickly blew his cover, resulting in his name being added to a watch list of suspected terrorists.   That still didn't stop Mohamed, who was allowed to re-enter the U.S. in 1985.   ***   He joined the U.S. Army a year later, which tookhim back to Fort Bragg, where his superiors were alarmed by his praise of the assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. His radicalism did not lead to his dismissal, though. Instead, Mohamed was asked to share his views with officers so that they might better understand the Islamic way.   ***   He stole documents at Fort Bragg and fashioned them into a terrorism training manual, which he used to help bin Laden's personal security forces and countless terrorists. He also used his military credentials to take an unauthorized trip to Afghanistan, where he fought Soviet forces, a violation for which he was not disciplined.   After his military service ended, Mohamed did bin Laden's bidding on many other fronts, including scouting bombing targets such as U.S. embassies in East Africa. He was arrested in 1998 after his part in the plots was revealed, and pleaded guilty in 2000 to five counts of conspiracy.   ***   Mohamed is thought to be supplying information helpful to the U.S. government from an undisclosed prison cell, and at least one person thinks his final chapter has yet to be written.   David Runke, a defense attorney in the African embassies bombing case, says, ``I think the most likely thing that will happen is he'll be released, he'll be given a new name and a new identity, and he will pick up a life someplace.''

Rocky Mountain News noted in 2006:

Currently in U.S. custody, his whereabouts and legal status are closely guarded secrets, according to National Geographic Channel officials.

UC Berkeley Professor emeritus Peter Dale Scott is even less generous in regards to our government's failure to stop Mohamed:

It is now generally admitted that Ali Mohamed (known in the al Qaeda camps as Abu Mohamed al Amriki — “Father Mohamed the American”) worked for the FBI, the CIA, and U.S. Special Forces. As he later confessed in court, he also aided the terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, a co-founder of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and by then an aide to bin Laden, when he visited America to raise money.

 

The 9/11 Report mentioned him, and said that the plotters against the U.S. Embassy in Kenya were “led” (their word) by Ali Mohamed.

 

***

 

Patrick Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney who negotiated a plea bargain and confession from Ali Mohamed, said this in testimony to the Commission

Ali Mohamed. …. trained most of al Qaeda’s top leadership – including Bin Laden and Zawahiri – and most of al Qaeda’s top trainers. He gave some training to persons who would later carry out the 1993 World Trade Center bombing…. From 1994 until his arrest in 1998, he lived as an American citizen in California, applying for jobs as an FBI translator.

Patrick Fitzgerald knew Ali Mohamed well. In 1994 he had named him as an unindicted co-conspirator in the New York landmarks case, yet allowed him to remain free. This was because, as Fitzgerald knew, Ali Mohamed was an FBI informant, from at least 1993 and maybe 1989. Thus, from 1994 “until his arrest in 1998 [by which time the 9/11 plot was well under way], Mohamed shuttled between California, Afghanistan, Kenya, Somalia and at least a dozen other countries.” Shortly after 9/11, Larry C. Johnson, a former State Department and CIA official, faulted the FBI publicly for using Mohamed as an informant, when it should have recognized that the man was a high-ranking terrorist plotting against the United States.

 

[I]n 1993 Ali Mohamed had been detained by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Canada, when he inquired at an airport after an incoming al Qaeda terrorist who turned out to be carrying two forged Saudi passports. Mohamed immediately told the RCMP to make a phone call to the United States, and the call secured his release. We’ve since been told that it was Mohamed’s West coast FBI handler, John Zent, “who vouched for Ali and got him released.”

 

This release enabled Ali to go on to Kenya, take pictures of the U.S. Embassy, and deliver them to bin Laden for the Embassy bombing plot.

 

In August 2006 there was a National Geographic Special on Ali Mohamed. We can take this as the new official fallback position on Ali Mohamed, because John Cloonan, the FBI agent who worked with Fitzgerald on Mohamed, helped narrate it. I didn’t see the show, but here’s what TV critics said about its contents:

 

Ali Mohamed manipulated the FBI, CIA and U.S. Army on behalf of Osama bin Laden. Mohamed trained terrorists how to hijack airliners, bomb buildings and assassinate rivals. [D]uring much of this time Mohamed was …, an operative for the CIA and FBI, and a member of the U.S. Army. …Mohamed turned up in FBI surveillance photos as early as 1989, training radical Muslims who would go on to assassinate Jewish militant Meir Kahane and detonate a truck bomb at the World Trade Center. He not only avoided arrest, but managed to become an FBI informant while writing most of the al Qaeda terrorist manual and helping plan attacks on American troops in Somalia and U.S. embassies in Africa.

 

That Mohamed trained al Qaeda in hijacking planes and wrote most of the al Qaeda terrorist manual is confirmed in a new book by Lawrence Wright, who has seen US Government records. Let me say this again: one of al-Qaeda’s top trainers in terrorism and how to hijack airplanes was an operative for FBI, CIA, and the Army…

 

Within days of 9/11 Cloonan rushed backed from Yemen and interviewed Ali, whom the Feds had allowed to slip into witness protection, and demanded to know the details of the plot. At that point Ali wrote it all out – including details of how he’d counseled would-be hijackers on how to smuggle box cutters on board aircraft and where to sit, to effect the airline seizures.

If all these latest revelations about Ali Mohamed are true, then:

 

1) a key planner of the 9/11 plot, and trainer in hijacking, was simultaneously an informant for the FBI.

 

2) This operative trained the members for all of the chief Islamist attacks inside the United States – the first WTC bombing, the New York landmarks plot, and finally 9/11, as well as the attacks against Americans in Somalia and Kenya.

 

3) And yet for four years Mohamed was allowed to move in and out of the country as an unindicted conspirator. Then, unlike his trainees, he was allowed to plea-bargain. To this day he may still not have been sentenced for any crime.…

 

All three had been trained by Ali Mohamed back in the late 1980s at a rifle range, where the FBI had photographed them, before terminating this surveillance in the fall of 1989.

 

The U.S. Government was thus in an excellent position to arrest, indict, and convict all of the terrorists involved, including Mohamed…

While this post does not address any "inside job" theories, there is evidence that intelligence services made other priorities - perhaps 1) covering up their previous backing of Al Qaeda, 2) trying to turn Al Qaeda operatives to our side, or 3) reserving the possibility of using them in future missions in other parts of the world - more important than capturing and disrupting Al Qaeda leadership:

  • A high-level military intelligence officer says that his unit – tasked with tracking Bin Laden prior to 9/11 – was pulled off the task, and their warnings that the World Trade Center and Pentagon were being targeted were ignored
  • The CIA may have helped many of the 9/11 hijackers get their visas to the U.S.

Nothing Has Changed ... We're STILL Backing Terrorists to Carry Out Geopolitical Goals

If you assume that this is ancient history, remember that:

  • The U.S. and Saudi Arabia are currently supporting Al Qaeda terrorists in Syria (see this, this and this)
 

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Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:03 | 2768232 xavi1951
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This is OLD news. Read Ghost Wars by Steve Coll.  It's an old book now.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:48 | 2768157 AurorusBorealus
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This is a very good article George.  Your best work to date.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:19 | 2766588 acrabbe
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I'm getting tired of all this 9/11 disinfo shit. Really. I mean GW come on, really? Trying to open doors?

You have just spent a few pages supporting the "we allowed the muslim terrorists" theory. The we knew and allowed it theory is a ruse for those who know the official story is a lie but can't reach deep enoigh down the rabbit hole. It is precisely THESE people who are MOST VULNERABLE TO DISNFORMATION. Notice I did NOT say MISinformation. GW is walking a very fine line and I seriously question his motives. Like I said, the people who DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH or DONT WANT TO BELIEVE IT are most vulnerable to this kind of sophisticated disnfo.

How much are they paying you GW? Or did they threaten ZH with permanent site ban?

As an aside, I saw "ZH Guest Column Editor Bob English" on RT today talking about the Shadow banking systema nd future inflation. I thought he should have gone into the leverage and counterparty risk in the shadow banking system, since THAT is more relevant to the coming inflation (as a result of the Fed response to these OTC blowups, which is to print, bailout, print, bailout, non-recourse loan, etc).But great effort anyway Bob. Did you get the blonde anchor's number by the way? She seemed like she was flirting...

Anyway... we know 911Truth has been infiltrated from the inside. ZH too? Seriously...

I have posted glittery unicorn files here before that some of you have read and know what i am talking about. keep this 2002 silly shit out of here... I mean really "a credible French paper said CIA met with bin laden in 2011" or something. Complete with links. Again, DISINFO, NOT MISINFO. GO CHECK THE DIFFERENCE.

FUCK.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 22:58 | 2766846 bunnyswanson
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1054790/The-fantasist-9-11-The-story-Tania-Heads-escape-Twin-Towers-captivated-America-heroine-survivors--Just-problem--wasnt-day.html#ixzz1sOCdEA7x

 

Tania Head - Survivor from "The Woman Who was Not There."

 

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1839881/pg2

 

This link is to a comment that shares what went through my mind.  Tania may have been in place to monitor the survivor stories.  She was one of few who saw an actual plane.  Even though busted in 2008, she showed up in 2011 at a memorial service for 9-11 survivors using a different last name.

She never financially benefitted from her position of being head of the 2,000 member survivor organization and did not sign any documents.  Why would anyone go through all this trouble after being publicly humiliated already twice (from one of the most prestigious families in Spain, father/brother jailed for financial crimes).

 

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:35 | 2766648 George Washington
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I am not sure what you are accusing me of: being too radical or promoting a limited hang-out.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:58 | 2766698 Money 4 Nothing
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Your doing a terrific job, don't let up. Your fighting with the kings of psyop so don't counter them. They need to keep the narritive going, not their fault, their just doing their job as your doing yours.

 

Cover an insider trading story pre 9/11 "put's" and that will open everyones eyes, it's not the covert act's committed on that day, it was who profited and how it changed policy in America.  

ie. Chertoff body scanners. The charter of TSA, warrentless wire tapping, Patriot Act part II et al. Follow the money, follow the policy and who profited from blood money.

 

-JP

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 22:09 | 2766726 dexter_morgan
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speaking of psyops, whats the over=under for more gun totin' ex military shootin up places before November?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBM9bxHQoeg

:-))

 

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 22:09 | 2766737 Money 4 Nothing
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Think BiGGer. It's going to be a decorated retired Desert Storm Marine "on a mission". Already leaked out of the Pentagon think tank.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:39 | 2766658 Clashfan
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He's accusing you of parroting disinfo and of not being radical enough, as in the true meaning of radical, which is "to the root." I find it hard to believe that you miss his point, but whatever. He's accusing you of the same thing I accused you of initially. Are you really missing it?

Redeem yourself with a better post about 911 in the near future. Prove to us that you've gleaned something from this interaction.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:47 | 2766678 George Washington
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You posted specific videos containing specific documentary evidence/. He provided criticism without producing or adding anything. Big difference.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 12:14 | 2768528 Benjamin Glutton
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Thank you for your vigilance George...like you, I believe too many questions remain or have been unsatisfactorily addressed.

Let me begin by saying I mean no disrespect on any level to the victims, their families and those who know they are pure of heart and deed.

 

Many theories have been offered to explain what happened on 9/11. One that has intrigued me has been advanced by a Russian expert who insists that the Towers were demolished using underground pre-positioned nukes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNuKAdGlxFo&list=PLD09BC1E9A11541DE&index...

At first glance this seems unlikely but I gave it a watch and one particular element sparked a vivid recollection. A byproduct of underground nuke detonation in a granite environment such as would be found is the creation of copious amounts of H2S. The reason I bring up H2S is because the firemen were wearing sensors that could be heard audibly in alarm for potentially the presence of H2S. As we watched we were told that sound meant the firemen were down and not moving and while this explanation is possible I have not been able to verify whether or not they were equipped for "man down". It IS certain they were equipped with H2S detectors as it is indicative of the presence of highly explosive gasses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_Sulfide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immediately_Dangerous_to_Life_and_Health

Can you think of a way to verify with 100% accuracy the type and functionality of systems carried by firefighters on 9/11/2001?

Finally I have included a video from 9/11 that includes audio of the sound emitted by life safety devices worn by the fallen on that day that I have only otherwise heard sounded by equipment designed to protect spelunkers from H2S when exploring caves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7fG_WEuEos

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 20:57 | 2766546 Jim in MN
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GW,

How can you run this without mentioning the Afghan gas pipeline being financed by Unocal and ENRON during the Clinton years, and our representatives' direct threat to the Taliban (you can have a carpet of flowers...or a carpet of bombs).

WE declared war on THEM.  And....forgot or something.

Boom.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 12:14 | 2768544 DaveyJones
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also love what happened to the poppy production once we went in to clear out the "criminals."

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:01 | 2766559 George Washington
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Jim: Good point ... but if I put all the important facts in one post, it would run to 50 pages.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 20:32 | 2766488 dexter_morgan
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Say it ain't so peanut man

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 20:15 | 2766434 orangegeek
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Agendas, Agendas, Agendas.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 20:14 | 2766432 tony bonn
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al qaeda is a cia DATABASE of mercenaries who do the bidding of the bush crime syndicate's and rockefeller axis of evil's biddings...all funneled through the cia......

with 9/11 they created fear to establish the nazi act and all of its vile evils....just like operation northwoods envisaged in 1962 when lyman lemnitzer and the other jcs chiefs signed it and with which kennedy was utterly disgusted.....

9/11 was so open a secret that high school students were predicting it along with many heads of states.....the only people in the dark were the same types who vote republican or democrat.....

nuclear weapons (along with nanothermite) were used to destroy the world trade towers.....

read jim marrs revised book on 9/11....

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 22:07 | 2766730 Clashfan
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I enjoy Marrs, too, but be careful of disinfo. He has shamelessly plugged Hunt's "confession," which I believe is a mix of truth and lies--and he also wrote Alien Agenda. So until there's solid evidence of "nuclear weapons"....

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 20:07 | 2766407 nmewn
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"This essay does not address any "inside job" theories for 9/11 or other terrorist attacks on America."

And all my rowdy friends have settled down.

Thats from the prophet Bocephus ;-)

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:33 | 2766269 BlackholeDivestment
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Oh, so ''they'' are saying the Mormon Egg from Utah is a Saint and I should not crack his head open so he dies in the image of his offer, killing Americans like him at the World Trade Center in 93, when the FBI blew up their bomb  that was ''(g)ods work'', and hey, our Saudi and Jewish buddies etc... are always a ''go'' for imploding the World Trade Center trillion plus 90's JP Morgan Cantor Fitzgerald short stack. Taking out the accounting section at the Pentagon, the day after Rummy tells you it's gonna cost 2,4 trillion more, no problem, do it again. Use a WMD on NYC if you want, it's all good for our Ground ''Zero Interest'' crime wave of global mutilation, inthe name of our NEO World Order mark to Muppet borderless prison planet. After all, it's just $4 trillion or so in a days work! and counting! Plus, the Larry Silverstein Hank Greenberg Jamie Dimon etc... Congressmen, Senators, The Executive Branch ...insider's bonuses for doing Lloyd's ''(g)ods work'' payoff payola to play roll call through the Hatch ritual slaughter, all Madoff ripoff Corzine Vapor swag is good for the Antichrist ''cause''.

What a Bohemian Grove, Cremation of Care, Skull and Bonehead bunch of evil scumbags that Mormon freak loves. Oh but they are such nice occult members.

All of them shall burn, that is a PROMIS Program INSLAW you can BCCIA Bank on. 

Personally, I have always been there, watching the whole time, before, durring, long after, and still. Do I have an issue if the players are taken out? NOPE. I would enjoy beeing the one to do the job, so noboy else would need to. Who will ever have an issue with that crowd's own judgment come upon them instanly. Those bitchez are SEALED.  

They are all the same, just like Masons, it does not matter what religion, race, country etc..., they are Antichrist bitchez without mercy. Their own standard is sealed upon them. Plus, it is now prophetic. If you do not now agree wiith that, well, you are in grave danger.

At anytime, their lives are now like sealed beasts looking in the mirror, as the Suicide Vampire Squid, trying to locate a host for their own image. They require all flesh be destroyed in their own image. They are completely Lucifer Lu Lu Looney Tunes, batshit crazy, insane, gross, but most of all ...PATHETIC!

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:46 | 2766674 Clashfan
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Rob-me has long been the Bush family's choice as a successor puppet.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:45 | 2766671 Clashfan
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Up from me, Blackhole, and thanks for pointing out the Luciferian nature of the conspirators. That point cannot be made loudly enough.

Truly fantastic comment. This one's for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmRfm1oVnUs

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:31 | 2766266 supermaxedout
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George , you should receive a prize in my opinion.  

The ZH prize for the best investigative articles in 2012.  Tyler, you should organize a poll. My vote for Goeorge you can count  already.

George, your articles are opening the eyes of the people which still want to see and want to know.  They want to know, even when recognizing how the MSM were feeding them bullshit for most of the time of their earlier life. 

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:17 | 2766227 Racer
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The US government is CORRUPT...  a dictatorship of the TBTF and the other members of the 0.1%

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:20 | 2766220 Racer
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doubled on the angry post.... ooooooo

edited

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:18 | 2766198 Element
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Experimental post for Clashfan, who keeps talking shit about how the thread is posting comments out of timestamp order, and pushing them to the top.

It isn't of course.  What you don't understand bud is that everytime someone edits their post the timestamp updates to the time the edit was saved.

So now will you shut up?

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 22:15 | 2766752 cbxer55
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Not only that, you can no longer edit your post once someone replies to it. Sometimes the time available to edit is short.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:41 | 2766660 Clashfan
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I've explained my confusion on that one several times on the thread, recognized it, apologized for it, and moved on.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 23:46 | 2766941 Element
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No problems

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 20:09 | 2766415 nmewn
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Its a fucking conspiracy!!!

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:05 | 2766171 sgt_doom
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When the BCCI investigation reached closer to President Geo. H.W. Bush's White House back in the late '80s, early '90s, Bush appointed Robert Mueller III to be the chief of the DOJ's Criminal Division to manage the BCCI probe --- or more accurately, to deflect it away from the Bush administration and narrow the scope of the investigation.

Four days prior to 9/11/01, President Geo. W. Bush appoints Robert Mueller III to be director of the FBI -- perfect timing and what a pedigree Mueller possesses.*

One day prior to 9/11/01, the Pentagon's comptroller announces that $2.3 trillion cannot be accounted for.**

Six to seven hours prior to the events of that 9/11 morning, sometime between 2:00 AM and 3:00 AM (EST) a group email is transmitted to the DIA's financial management staff to attend an emergency meeting that very morning at their Pentagon offices --- located at the Pentagon's west wall.

One staff member will fortuitously oversleep, viewing the email late and consequently arrive late -- just in time to view from afar the plane crashing into the super-reinforced west wall, severely injuring or killing almost the entire financial management group of the DIA, and those computer systems involved with discovering said missing funds; apparently data backups aren't the order of the day?

That very same morning on 9/11/01, the National Reconnaissance Office's (NRO) ops center would be evacuated due to an exercise simulating an attack by suicide aircraft flying into that facility.  (Sound vaguely familiar?)

Therefore, no one was on hand to manually task their recon satellites on the airspace above NYC and the Pentagon. Thanks to further expansion of the Web over the Internet (2003 - 2005), cached pages of dramatically increased data transmission and EFTs, originating from three firms residing in the two WTC towers to offshore locations, could be accessed.

Shortly after 9/2001, in early 2002, an explosive growth occurs in offshore hedge funds.

Background research on those unfortunate passengers aboard the involved airliners (victims who were certain to die that day) indicated that some of the pax fall into three unique groups, along with three unique individuals aboard. The three groups:  (1) developers of remote piloting hardware and software; (2) individuals involved in the creation of a terrorist scenario remarkably similar  to that which occurred on 9/11/01 (among that group of victims was an Israeli counterterrorist expert and one of the airliners' pilots, a former career Naval officer); and, (3) some of the individuals involved with the investigation into Flight 800's demise.

The three individuals:  (1)  wife number three of the solicitor general, who would quickly move on to wife number four once the insurance settlement came through (death by opportunity?); (2) a lady  attorney, rumored to be involved with a senior married partner of the conservative and politically-connected law firm which successfully defended Fox News on several cases of fictionalizing the news (death by opportunity?); and, (3) a physicist with the Naval Surface Warfare Center's Directed Energy Section.

[We are not suggesting any of these victims were aware of the events to transpire on 9/11 --- this appears to be a highly compartmentalized operation.]

Intensive pattern analysis, link analysis, and link and group analysis indicates the five principal players involved:  the Blackstone Group, Veritas Capital, AIG, the office of the VP, and the office of the SecDef.

Some time prior to 9/11/01, a financial news announcement would explain an investment by AIG in the Blackstone Group (source document of transaction, along with hard copy source documents of thousands of ongoing SEC investigations resided in the destroyed WTC Building 7 – no source docs, case closed!).  The amount of AIG’s investment was approximately the final insurance payout amount to the property management/RE firm for the WTC destruction (classic paper money false transfer and money laundering scheme, relatively simple --- for a far more circuitous, and commonplace, accounting scheme, please see Retirement Heist, by Ellen Schultz, p. 209 on “leveraged ESOPs”).

The mortgage owner of record for WTC Building 7:  the Blackstone Group.

The firm awarded the $1 billion captive insurance fund management contract by Bush’s FEMA, for settlement with WTC victims’ families:  the Blackstone Group.

The firm which negotiated the largest and quickest real estate deal in NYC history, the WTC lease transfer from the Port Authority of NY and NJ to Silverstein Properties and Westfield America, Inc.:  the Blackstone Group.

During the week prior to 9/11/01, the fiber optic installation firm, EurekaGGN, installed dark fiber in the top floors of the two WTC towers (they had the contract for cabling the entire WTC), utilizing a method to pump the fiber optical cables through existing HVAC vents running beneath each floor.

[To reiterate:  the west wall of the Pentagon had been reinforced, according to Structure Magazine, which also posed the question as to why only one wall and a plane crashes into it.  Fiber optic is being installed, but never verified as to being operational, (parts of probably were to allow the fastest possible data/eft transfers) in the WTC towers, and planes crash into them --- access, access, access!]

Technical details not widely known:  two of the four airliners involved  didn’t appear on the FAA Flight Registry which logs all commercial flights, per standard procedure, as they were reserved as DoD Special Charters, meaning that each plane must seat those reserved for DoD personnel, and must depart at the schedule time, but any remaining seats may be filled commercially.

Aircraft pointedly flew to shadow zones – where radar coverage was obscured due to topography and ATCC limitations – where the transponders were then powered down – normally, they would have triggered ATCC radar indicators.  Highly doubtful those Saudi Arabian hijacker cutouts would have known these recondite details; and recovered black box data, obtained through FOIA requests, give no indication of any hijacking taking place (and yes, there does exist a governmental database of black box hijacking data for comparison purposes).

There were over 1,000 other “coincidences” which took place that morning, all tracking back to the five principal players.Recap:  $2.3 trillion announced unaccounted, and DIA’s financial management group is almost entirely wiped out, along with involved computer systems, dramatically increased data transmissions and EFTs out of WTC towers in preceding 12 hours, and people and computer systems involved are killed and destroyed, with explosive growth in offshore hedge funds occurring shortly thereafter.

Veritas Capital, purchaser and owner of former Raytheon subsidiary which employed those remote piloting hardware and software developers and subcontractors aboard some of those airliners involved in 9/11, and Veritas Capital makes some incredibly prescient defense industry investments shortly prior to 9/11/01.

[Containment process: Immediately after the first Anthrax attack, DynCorp's Dynport Vaccine Company was awarded an Anthrax government contract -- therefore any possible future investigation would logically turn up Anthrax.  Dynport Vaccine Company was located right by Ft. Detrick, probably point of origin of weaponized Anthrax, but Detrick didn't possess the required lab equipment to weaponize, while Dynport did.  (Dynport was owned by DynCorp, government contractor and private military company, later cited for human trafficking crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq -- and was purchased by Veritas Capital, and later sold.)

Recovered disk drives in WTC Towers were strangely -- given their classified and sensitive nature -- sent overseas to a German data recovery firm, Convar, recently purchased by Kroll (and not to the NSA as one would obviously assume???).  A spokesman for Convar publicly stated that some data had been recovered, but said data and drives were delivered to the FBI HQ in D.C., where they promptly disappeared.]

*Robert Mueller III, FBI director, is the grandnephew of Richard Bissell, one of the three top CIA types who President Kennedy fired.  Mueller’s wife is the granddaughter of Charles Cabell, another of those three CIA people  JFK had fired (the third was Allen Dulles, who would later manage the Warren Commission!

**

http://www.financial-edu.com/history-of-credit-derivatives.php

2002-Rise of Hedge Funds: Number of funds increases from 4000 in 2002 managing $2 trillion to 8000+ managing $4 trillion.  This creates intense demand for new structured products with higher yields.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:35 | 2766649 Clashfan
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You rock hard, Sarge. This one's for you. Thanks for all you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuhQf3ds14k

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:57 | 2766375 Disenchanted
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Now we're getting somewhere... +911

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:42 | 2766105 alentia
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Saudis are afraid of Iran. If Syria would not openly support Iran and would not sign $10B gas and oil pipeline deal in July 2011 with Iran, Saudis and Katar probably would not start sponsoring Al-Queda fighters to start antigovernment war in Syria. Assad should have picked right playing in pipeline deal.

The only problem is, mainstream media simply can not say "Saudis and Katar sponsored terrorists", but instead call them "rebells". Surprisingly US is staying out of this conflict, at least directly. There is no benefits to US in this war other then steady flow of Saudis oil.

Turkey want pipeline go through it's territory, so Saudis, Katar and Turkey are joined in this effort. However Turkey's idea is to keep Syria destibilized, so Katar will offer to build pipeline through Turkey. But for Katar it is too expensive and it would rather see new government in Syria dismantelling deal with Iran.

The main looser in all of Syrian war - Europe, they are still forced to buy Russian Natural Gas as above market price as prospects of Syrian pipeline now fading. 

The main winners here are Russians! As long as Syria is destibilized, there will be no gas or oil flowing through Syria accross Meditteranian sea to Europe, neither from Katar, Iran or Iraq. That is why Russians are blocking any UN intervention as long as there mess it is good for them.

I can not find good answer why Chinese are blocking UN intervention unless they are really the only nation left, who knows the truth and uses its Veto power to protect human rights and rights of Syrian sovergnity. Go figure, the world is crazy...

 

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:36 | 2766083 TruthHunter
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A forgotten bit of related history is how the British put the house of Saud in power in the first place. The Saudis found it convenient to adopt Wahabi's theology because it allowed them to attack other Muslims just because the didn't quite agree.  Some 400,000 were killed, forcibly converted, or expelled all with the support of the British. They thought having this bunch of Trolls watching the hen house(Mecca) would seriously weaken the Muslim world. They didn't count on oil...

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:20 | 2766021 Disenchanted
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test for Clashfan

 

btw keyword for 9/11: compartmentalization...or need to know basis

 

Many who may have been 'involved' that day probably had no idea what their piece of the puzzle entailed.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:23 | 2766031 Clashfan
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Wassup, Dis? How is this a test?

I have already commented on this matter (n2K).

But I am up for a test on 911 if you have it. I might learn something. I do want to write about it--soon.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:26 | 2766044 Clashfan
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Sorry, gotcha--first/last post thing. TY

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:25 | 2766040 Disenchanted
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See my reply to your question about posts in inverse order. ;)

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:27 | 2766049 Clashfan
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I figured it out and tried to edit but couldn't... posted simultaneously w/you afterward, I guess. Thanks again.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:13 | 2765999 Madcow
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The Dems are getting close to dropping Israel like a hot potato - 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=09cEwnivdr0

 

 

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:24 | 2766036 Clashfan
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Whatever. Keep dreaming. If even ONE Dummycrap were to speak any 911 truth, I would be amazed.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:06 | 2765982 LivermoreJim
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The Afgans have been fighting invaders for thousands of years -- long before the Russians came -- or us (I really didn't need to mention that, but you never know.) 

Another foolish article for the braindead and the conspiracy freaks.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 17:53 | 2765941 Hannibal
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We must the the dumbest fucked up nation on earth.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:14 | 2766205 sgt_doom
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Copy that, brother!

Just think back a few years to that whistleblower late in the George W. Bush administration, Bradley Burkenfeld.

Burkenfeld came back from the UBS bank in Switzerland, armed with a list of the super-rich American tax dodgers for the American gov't.

On that list was the name of Willard Mitt Romney, and such publicity would have ended his political career --- 'natch!

And so what next happens?  Obama wins the presidency, and the Obama administration prosecutes Burkenfeld into jail and buries that list of his.

Therefore, Obama is directly responsible for Romney's successful political run to capture the republican presidential nomination!

(The Obama administration, in their War on Whistleblowers, not only went after those during their administration, but all those back in the Bush/Cheney administrtion --- that's right, my brothers and sisters, they went after the enemies of Bush and Cheney, but never would go after Bush and Cheney

It's all rigged to favor the Super-rich.)

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:25 | 2766037 brettd
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Roger that.  I'm not sure which is worse, our foreign or domestic policy.  

Have a friend in Afgan now, and their reports reflect a catastrophic lack of vision & purpose.

A waste at every turn. 

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 19:17 | 2766225 sgt_doom
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"A waste at every turn."

Negative!  Chinese doing copper mining in Afghanistan under protection of NATO troops.

Pipelines for oil and gas crossing Afghanistan to Pakistan and India to supply those multinational facilities they keep offshoring jobs to.

Still more precious metals to be mined in Afghanistan.

They profit at every turn!

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 21:25 | 2766628 Clashfan
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Yeah, curious how we were all buddies w/Taliban until they reneged on the pipeline deal. Curious how the opium production shot up and how the MM became apologists for that cause, too.

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 18:30 | 2766063 Clashfan
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Ha, it's no accident, no catastrophe for the folks who planned all of this. War is the state's absolute power over its people and others. The goals of the war are simply to have one, in many cases.

The longer it lasts, the better it is (for them).

The Luciferian elite don't want a quick war with clear goals. They just want chaos that they control. MIC is raking in the bucks. Don't you work for Raytheon yet?

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