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If We Learn Our History, We’re NOT Doomed to Repeat It

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What Is False Flag Terror?

“False flag terrorism” is defined as a government attacking its own people, then blaming others in order to justify going to war against the people it blames. Or as Wikipedia defines it:

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one’s own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy’s strategy of tension.

The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy’s flag, instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, was hung, it was called a “false flag” attack.

Indeed, this concept is so well-accepted that rules of engagement for naval, air and land warfare all prohibit false flag attacks.

Leaders Throughout History Have Acknowledged False Flags

Leaders throughout history have acknowledged the danger of false flags:

“This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
- Plato

 

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
- U.S. President James Madison

 

“Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death”.
- Adolph Hitler

 

“Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
- Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

 

“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened”.
- Josef Stalin

Governments from Around the World ADMIT that they Carry Out False Flag Terror

But don’t take our word for it.

Governments from around the world admit they carry out false flag terror:

  • A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland. Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson
  • The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister
  • Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this)
  • As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in the 1960′s, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See the following ABC news report; the official documents; and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC’s World News Tonight with Peter Jennings.
  • 2 years before, American Senator George Smathers had suggested that the U.S. make “a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and [overthrow Castro]“.
  • And Official State Department documents show that – only nine months before the Joint Chiefs of Staff plan was proposed – the head of the Joint Chiefs and other high-level officials discussed blowing up a consulate in the Dominican Republic in order to justify an invasion of that country. The 3 plans were not carried out, but they were all discussed as serious proposals
  • The South African Truth and Reconciliation Council found that, in 1989, the Civil Cooperation Bureau (a covert branch of the South African Defense Force) approached an explosives expert and asked him “to participate in an operation aimed at discrediting the ANC [the African National Congress] by bombing the police vehicle of the investigating officer into the murder incident”, thus framing the ANC for the bombing
  • An Algerian diplomat and several officers in the Algerian army admit that, in the 1990s, the Algerian army frequently massacred Algerian civilians and then blamed Islamic militants for the killings (and see this video; and Agence France-Presse, 9/27/2002, French Court Dismisses Algerian Defamation Suit Against Author)
  • According to the Washington Post, Indonesian police admit that the Indonesian military killed American teachers in Papua in 2002 and blamed the murders on a Papuan separatist group in order to get that group listed as a terrorist organization.
  • The well-respected former Indonesian president also admits that the government probably had a role in the Bali bombings
  • As reported by BBC, the New York Times, and Associated Press, Macedonian officials admit that the government murdered 7 innocent immigrants in cold blood and pretended that they were Al Qaeda soldiers attempting to assassinate Macedonian police, in order to join the “war on terror”.
  • Former Department of Justice lawyer John Yoo suggested in 2005 that the US should go on the offensive against al-Qaeda, having “our intelligence agencies create a false terrorist organization. It could have its own websites, recruitment centers, training camps, and fundraising operations. It could launch fake terrorist operations and claim credit for real terrorist strikes, helping to sow confusion within al-Qaeda’s ranks, causing operatives to doubt others’ identities and to question the validity of communications.”
  • United Press International reported in June 2005:

    U.S. intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either Mossad or the CIA. Analysts speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.

  • Quebec police admitted that, in 2007, thugs carrying rocks to a peaceful protest were actually undercover Quebec police officers
  • At the G20 protests in London in 2009, a British member of parliament saw plain clothes police officers attempting to incite the crowd to violence
  • A Colombian army colonel has admitted that his unit murdered 57 civilians, then dressed them in uniforms and claimed they were rebels killed in combat
  • U.S. soldiers have admitted that if they kill innocent Iraqis and Afghanis, they then “drop” automatic weapons near their body so they can pretend they were militants

An Important CURRENT Threat

If we do not learn our history, we are doomed to repeat it.  But if people learn about false flags, they will lose their effectiveness.

This is not “old news”.

False flags to start new wars are a current threat both in Syria and in Iran:

  • Ron Paul has warned of a “Gulf of Tonkin type incident” in Iran
  • The highly influential Brookings Institution wrote a report in 2009 called “Which Path to Persia?” which states (pages 84-85):

It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.)

  • A number of very high-level former intelligence officers – including several that personally briefed presidents every day on matters of national security – stated that better communications between the U.S. and Iran were needed to “reduce the danger of … covert, false-flag attack”
 


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Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:33 | Link to Comment steelrules
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Is this the endgame is this what it's all been leading up to all along?

30 minute movie that every human must see.

http://larouchepac.com/node/23810

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 22:58 | Link to Comment ArrestBobRubin
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More valuable history to learn from: the Israeli murder of dozens of American sailors in their craven attack on the undefended USS Liberty. And don't look now, that bit of history may be about to repeat too:

US Navy Warned of Attack by Israel The US Navy AEGIS Destroyer, Nicknamed the USS Rachel Corrie, Warned of Attack

It was 1967 when Israeli planes bombed and strafed the USS Liberty for hours, machine-gunning life rafts, peppering the 20 foot “stars and stripes” with machine gun holes, napalming, torpedoes, one of most dastardly sneak attacks on a virtually unarmed ship since Pearl Harbor in 1941.

The US had scheduled a major exercise with multiple AEGIS surface to air “killer ships” many months ago but decided to put off the exercise because of Israeli interference in the US election and the deteriorating relationship with Israel over Iran.

Now we are told only one ship will be used and very few troops.  This news came in before the President ordered language removed from the Democratic Party platform supporting Israel’s claim to Jerusalem as a capitol of a Jewish only state.

The fight over this issue has raged on the floor of the Democratic Convention held, this year, in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Now, Veterans Today has learned that naval personnel in the upcoming exercise have “shoot to kill” orders if approached by unknown aircraft, even if clearly marked as “Israeli.” (more)

 

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 00:58 | Link to Comment Dburn
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Excellent Cut and paste job. Here's the problem;  Those evil conniving bastards at Google have  made it too easy to catch the cut and paste Bullshit artists. For example: All I had to do to was to take this paragraph 

 It was 1967 when Israeli planes bombed and strafed the USS Liberty for hours, machine-gunning life rafts, peppering the 20 foot “stars and stripes” with machine gun holes, napalming, torpedoes, one of most dastardly sneak attacks on a virtually unarmed ship since Pearl Harbor in 1941."

Copy and paste it into the Google search box and lo and behold one can see how many BS sites copied the same BS and put it up as their own, bad grammar included;  "one of most". 

 You know what they say about propaganda; repeat it long enough and people will actually believe it. I've seen douche-muffins like you cut and paste a warped view of a historical accident that has been passed around like a cold turd from one hand to the next and then electronically when the web came around. 


It's like there was never an incident of Blue on Blue or Blue on Nuetral ever recorded in the history of warfare to you cunts.  Americans have died by the thousands by the hands of their brothers in accidental blue on blue. I guess you people will have to use the above until you actually can find a case where more than one Jew was involved in a Blue on Blue friendly fire incident.  

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 02:18 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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Come on, dude. He has a link to the piece and the cut/paste in bold. It's not like he's trying to pretend that it's his own words. What are you doing?

Try this whistleblower on it, then: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

Perhaps you should read more on it before concluding it was an accident and misleading folks? Here's a bit I copy and paste from this link:

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

And more from the same piece: Israel attacked the USS Liberty using UNMARKED AIRCRAFT. This is the single fact which proves Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel's story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war. Were that true, there would be no reason to attack a supposedly Egyptian ship with unmarked aircraft. The only possible reason to use unmarked aircraft to attack the ship is that Israel knew it was an American ship and intended to sink it, then to blame the attack on Egypt.

 

Clearly, this is not an accident. Check out the piece or others on the matter before spouting the official view. Whose motto is it that says they will wage war by deception?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 22:35 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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what about the cool stuff? you know..."where we win"...and shit. and then we get the girl and it's like really cool and people go...you know, "yeah, baby! yeah!" or how about this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3ypbAbLJ8 and all she wanted to do was get home. hmm. go figure. "only a wizard can do that."

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Revert_Back_to_...
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Maybe this will make you feel better DV.

Nazereth - Hair of the Dog - 1976

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEG0-3xlAkg

picks up talkbox at 1:50;

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEG0-3xlAkg#t=1m50s

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:44 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Here's a hint for you George; learning from does not mean desperately searching for un-realistic propaganda to support our personal emotionally motivated crack-pot theory. Actually studying history is very rewarding, but it's very time-consuming, and a certain minimum IQ is necessary, also.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 22:15 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Soooo, you took the 'special' SAT, the one on asshattery?  Nice score.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:41 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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911 was exactly what the oficial government report described it as; a successful attack based on hi-jacked commercial airliners by Muslim Fanatics. Period. It's very sad that modern doo-doo heads don't know how to do research or think clearly.

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 00:30 | Link to Comment Revert_Back_to_...
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This summary of the official story finally cleared things up for me.  Please give it to all the conspiracy theorists out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

This video from Sept. 10th also helped me think more clearly. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU

Obviously the building was hit exactly where that investigation data was by total coincidence.

oh yeah and this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

His testimony is so clear.  How could there be any conspiracy!

And building 7...the owner speaks about that subject here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

And this guy..he was probably just stressed out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9lkeniJLDw

And this guy..another very clear testimony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LLHTh_UjBc

pffft..powerful people would never have a conspiracy!

And even if they did, it would be impossible to keep it a secret...

I mean think about the Manhattan project..everyone knew about that..right?

And our free press would have uncovered things by now if there was a conspiracy.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 22:47 | Link to Comment ArrestBobRubin
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looks like you forgot the / sarc

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:20 | Link to Comment Pejorative Requiem
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Thanks for the worm, comrade George

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:16 | Link to Comment Pejorative Requiem
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My favorite false flag attack was when Kahn attacked Captain Kirk after putting a worm in Checkov's ear.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:56 | Link to Comment goldenbuddha454
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I'm long precious metals, lead being the most precious of all.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:42 | Link to Comment cooperbry
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The neo-cons/libs reading this are fuming that their game plan is laid out...  :)

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:40 | Link to Comment q99x2
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How do we know that it doesn't always play out like this for each of us? Always. I mean to say, "If the reality that we have come to know is in a battle against that which we do not know, to exist, then necessarily it which is existance, which we seem to be must come to an end at the same time immortality has nearly been proclaimed. All things end in their beginning."

How about this, "Better luck next time." My fucking sister is voting for Obama.

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 03:29 | Link to Comment Revert_Back_to_...
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Ask her some of these questions and then show her this video from 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

Then you can really open her eyes with this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:20 | Link to Comment mrdenis
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Judge Says 10 Rare Gold Coins Worth $80 Million Belong to Uncle Sam

 judge ruled that 10 rare gold coins worth $80 million belonged to the U.S. government, not a family that had sued the U.S. Treasury, saying it had illegally seized them......http://news.yahoo.com/judge-says-10-rare-gold-coins-worth-80-152750965--...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:49 | Link to Comment kevinearick
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in a get them before they get you world of false scarcity, why would anyone expect anthing other than derivative preemption, robot land mines in every direction.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:36 | Link to Comment AGuy
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I doubt wide acknowledgement will stop WW3, at best it would delay it. The problem is that the politicans will continue to promise things they cant possible deliever, utilimately they will figure out a way to start a war in order to obtains resources.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:00 | Link to Comment FiatGold
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then use the draft to put all those unemployed to work fighting for said resources.  It's looking pretty close to a global conflict coming out of the middle east.  All it takes is another false flag and the rest of the flags are forgotten.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:30 | Link to Comment davood
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If we learn our history AND overthrow/replace/remove the scum that have risen to the top of almost every human endeavor, most especially in the United States, then and maybe just then will we NOT be doomed to repeat it.  Otherwise, it's just wishful thinking.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:41 | Link to Comment FiatGold
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I wish I could add more, but I am on the sidelines feeling frustrated about how people don't care. All we can do is question authority, kep each other informed and work the system against itself. It certainly will not work in our favor.

The corruption in this government is so rife from minority interests and it is accepted by the masses. Does anyone feel there is any hope in abandoning the party ideals and backing Gary Johnson. Supporting a libertarian agenda vs the coporate cause?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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Whatever one decides to "do" about "it," the first response has to be personal awareness, a dedication to hard facts. And the second response has to be skillfully spreading that awareness.

Nothing productive can be accomplished without much awareness.

Get crackin'.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:46 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Keeping your life savings in Silver Bullion in a foreign country automatically helps the libertarian cause; and may even become significant if enough people do it.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:27 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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'Americans' are learning from history: they are learning how to improve on 'Americanism' and that includes how to paint better scapegoats.

What long path 'Americans' have walked since they were blabbering Indian doings...

'Americans' are doing it so much better nowadays.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:45 | Link to Comment George Washington
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I sit at your feet and greedily gather your pearls of wisdom, oh wise one ... (although I have no idea what you are talking about)

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:21 | Link to Comment orangedrinkandchips
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9/11

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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GW, did you consider mentioning GLADIO? Lots of bullets up there: Maybe I missed it?

Did you purposely avoid it, or do you not know about it?

It seems to be as solidly acknowledged by official media/governments as the other points only perhaps a bit more, er, incriminating?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fB6nViwJcM

http://cofcc.org/2012/08/operation-gladio-the-admitted-false-flag-fake-t...

Many, many other links are available--no need to depend on the two I quickly find.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:30 | Link to Comment George Washington
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Clashfan, I do have Gladio.  But I hadn't seen that BBC documentary, thanks.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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The reason why I asked (I see as I review the piece) is that GLADIO went well beyond the fifties--into the eighties--and included killing children on a school bus, which is when folks overseas thought it was going too far. I didn't see GLADIO mentioned by name, and your "this" link in blue (if that's what it is) results in "page not found" for me.

You can search the web all day and find decent sources on GLADIO, but I think Alex Jones, honestly, is one of the best on it and can link to other terrific sources. I know he irritates some people, but false flags are one of his specialties. He is a very good source on GLADIO.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:06 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Well I just have to add one tiny detail: I personally was at a small gathering at which James Withrow, once Wild Bill Donovan's right hand man running the OSS and the early CIA, was taking questions from college kids.  He was a short tempered man famous for barking out answers and he was slapping down all these liberal questions (he was a big anti-Communist).  I can't forget that he was using a piece of optical spy satellite glass to read with, a big block that he slid over pages--they'd given it to him. 

My roommate at the time was obsessed with JFK so I had been elbowing him repeatedly hissing "ask him!  ask him" and finallyhe jumps up and says breathlessly:

"Mr. Withrow...uh, sir?  WhoshotJFK?"  And he sits down.

Withrow looks at him, takes the longest pause anyone could remember him taking and says:

"I DON'T KNOW."

Which while it could mean a lot of other things sure as Hell means one thing: Oswald didn't do it, at least not by himself.  Because that would have been easy to say.

OK, that's it.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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Nice piece here, GW. Thanks. I learned a few things, too, which is always a plus. I hope it opens folks' eyes.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Shameful
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What experience and history teach is this — that people and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it.

--Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

The reason that you can cite so many open and historical examples is that the mass man cannot contemplate such an action.  It is outside their ken, the normal person would not do such things and suffers under the delusion that their leaders would never do such things.  While I applaud the spreading of basic facts and history the sad fact of the matter is these grains of wisdom will fall on the barren and harsh soils of men's minds, where they will not sprout into real awareness.  At best they will get stuck in the idea the parties are different and "________ would do that, but not my guy!".  Indeed look how open these things are discussed, out in plain sight for all with eyes to see.  If there was real fear of the mass man realizing this, wouldn't pains be made to hide it, or at least not publicly and boldly announce it?

No one ever lost money betting on the stupidity and naivete of the mass man.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 14:17 | Link to Comment George Washington
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By "mass man", do you mean this guy:

?

I agree, he's got a lot of mass.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Shameful
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Ah and at a sporting event! A big fan!

The simple fact is the majority of humanity does not have desire to know what is going on.  I'm quite certain you have run into people in real life that are willfully ignorant.  That will react with outrage when you simply state widely accepted facts.  I'm asserting that is the norm for humanity, and those who wish to know and understand the world around them are the outliers.  If I were wrong would any of this be possible?  As you point out they are openly saying "We have done false flags before and will do them again" and the masses responses is complete and total ignorance.

People will only seek knowledge after they are wounded, and the majority will then take on the view that most closely aligns to what they want to perceive.  This is why false flags/wars are so amazing at rallying people around a government even unpopular ones, people want to believe.  They don't want to look deeper.  Sure calling attention to it before hand will help those who would be more inclined to look deeper, but lets say a dirty bomb or nuke went off in Chicago, the Federal Government would have a free hand to do as it wished and 95% of people would line up behind the official story no matter how impossible or outlandish.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:27 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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You mean like that laugher about "getting" OBL, no evidence, burying the body at sea, and the whole deal with the seal team, etc?

I didn't even bother to look into that one b/c it screamed obvious so loudly, like it was a test to see just how stupid Americans are. And plenty of folks I know ate it up, but not as many as you might have expected.

Truth is, many on both sides (D/R) avoided it, too, sensing something very wrong. Not enough, but more than I expected.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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George Washington

Fucking Sumo guys are everywhere.

Like Samoans.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 13:51 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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You forgot Rumsfeld admitting that Flight 93 was "shot down over Pennsylvania": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Kitler
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And what was he supposed to do?

The passengers were planning to take control of the aircraft from the terrorists, he couldn't risk the chance of any of them coming out alive and talking could he?

http://www.flight93crash.com/

Flight 93's debris field spanned 8 miles. The only possible explaination was that it broke up while in flight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEnZekXT1yw

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:27 | Link to Comment optimator
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The pilots somehow overode the Remote Flight Control and could not be allowed to land of course.  If the pilots didn't gain control they probably would have ended up in Bldg. 7.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:36 | Link to Comment George Washington
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Remote Flight Control?  Nahhhhhhhhh....

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Kitler
Fri, 09/07/2012 - 03:47 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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This clumsiness has been edited--see below. Thanks for the great link, sorry I missed it the first time around.

Oh, most probably, GW.

When conspirators plan an event like this, there are a few givens. I've researched this stuff for decades, man--most of my life. There are patterns that are fairly uniform, much like a hidden code of rules.

First, whoever does something like this at the upper levels is immune from any kind of prosecution from anyone, ever, for any reason, at any time.

Second, they leave little room for error. They would not take the chance that a pilot would miss or change his or her mind at the last minute. Too much is at stake for them. It's much more likely that remote control technology, which had been in play for over a decade, was used in this event. Some of the planes were not the regular planes that normally flew those routes.

Put yourself in the position of the conspirators.

And ask yourself what makes the most sense and explains most of the phenomena.

Most credible truthers accept that at some point in the "hijackings," the planes--at least the ones that hit targets--were turned over to remote control operation that could not have been overridden by anyone in the cockpits.

Edit--er, duh--I have modified this response a bit b/c I just noticed the link you give. I think I am running out of energy apologizing to you. My stupidity keeps me humble.

For some reason I miss the blue links in folks' posts when they're imbedded in the language of the post. Sorry.

Yes, good link, sir. And yet again some new info for me. Thanks.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 15:35 | Link to Comment machineh
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Oh well, Bldg 7 fell down because of a blazing-inferno fuel oil fire, so no harm done! /sarc

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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This from AE911TRUTH aired on Colorado PBS recently, check it out and spread it around:

http://video.cpt12.org/video/2270078138

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:23 | Link to Comment Kitler
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

Mendik and Silverstein continued the business after Harry's death in 1966. In 1977, Mendik divorced Annette Silverstein Mendik, with the business partnership also splitting up at that time.[5] Mendik also cited disagreements over real estate strategies, with Mendik wanting to buy buildings while Silverstein wanted to build.[6]

Silverstein was a builder not a buyer (or lessor) of buildings. His partnership with Mendik ended in part because of this difference in strategies. So why would he lease these existing and largely obsolete buildings?

Other than the massive insurance payouts and the opportunity to rebuild anew on the site?

Larry Silverstein and his partner Frank Lowy acquired a 99-year lease on the entire World Trade Center complex just weeks before the 9/11/01 attack. The deal was negotiated by Lewis Eisenberg, the former chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Eisenberg was recently appointed chairman of the Republican National Committee. Eisenberg had resigned from Goldman Sachs in the 1980s after his secretary accused him of sexually harassing her.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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Exactly, Kitler. Too many fail to understand WHY it was shot down. Great point.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 17:02 | Link to Comment Kitler
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Flight 93 was retaken then shot down.

http://www.the-office.com/ua93transponder.htm

Full document text see pages 27, 29 and 30.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14141827/NYC-B1-NTMO-East-Position-3-Fdr-Trans...

Aircraft emergency to attract attention and establish communication

http://navyaviation.tpub.com/14243/css/14243_148.htm

Flight 93 had an "extra pilot" onboard

http://www.flight93memorialsfb.com/Heros-Of-Flight-93/pages/Donald-Green...

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