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New York Times: White House Didn’t Stop 9/11 Because It Thought “Bin Laden Was Merely PRETENDING To Be Planning An Attack ...
It has been thoroughly documented that 9/11 was entirely foreseeable … including Al Qaeda’s plans to fly planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon.
It has been extensively documented that the White House decided to invade Iraq before 9/11:
- The decision to launch the Iraq war was made before 9/11. Indeed, former CIA director George Tenet said that the White House wanted to invade Iraq long before 9/11, and inserted “crap” in its justifications for invading Iraq. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill – who sat on the National Security Council – also says that Bush planned the Iraq war before 9/11. Top British officials say that the U.S. discussed Iraq regime change even before Bush took office. And in 2000, Cheney said a Bush administration might “have to take military action to forcibly remove Saddam from power.” And see this.
- Cheney made Iraqi’s oil fields a national security priority before 9/11. And the Sunday Herald reported: “Five months before September 11, the US advocated using force against Iraq … to secure control of its oil.” (remember that Alan Greenspan, John McCain, George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, a high-level National Security Council officer and others all say that the Iraq war was really about oil.)
(Indeed, neoconservatives planned regime change throughout the Middle East and North Africa 20 years ago; and the neoliberals are no different)
Right after 9/11, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld accused Iraq of having a hand in the attacks. People may not remember now, but – at the time – the supposed Saddam-9/11 link was at least as important a justification for the Iraq war as the alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Bush and Cheney then launched a systematic program of torture in an attempt to create false evidence – through false confessions – of a link between Iraq and 9/11. The torture techniques used were Communist techniques specifically designed to produce false confessions.
This claim that Iraq is linked to 9/11 has since been debunked by the 9/11 Commission, top government officials, and even – long after they alleged such a link – Bush and Cheney themselves.
The 9/11 Commission found that the White House and its Defense Department obstructed justice in numerous ways to deflect blame for 9/11.
Today, the New York Times adds a bizarre new wrinkle to this story:
I have read excerpts from many of [the still-classified Presidential Daily Briefs] … and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administration’s reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it. The direct warnings to Mr. Bush about the possibility of a Qaeda attack began in the spring of 2001. By May 1, the Central Intelligence Agency told the White House of a report that “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist operation. Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent,” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible.
But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.
In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real.
“The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden,” the daily brief of June 29 read, using the government’s transliteration of Bin Laden’s first name. Going on for more than a page, the document recited much of the evidence ….
And the C.I.A. repeated the warnings in the briefs that followed.
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Yet, the White House failed to take significant action. Officials at the Counterterrorism Center of the C.I.A. grew apoplectic. On July 9, at a meeting of the counterterrorism group, one official suggested that the staff put in for a transfer so that somebody else would be responsible when the attack took place, two people who were there told me in interviews. The suggestion was batted down, they said, because there would be no time to train anyone else.
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Actually, Bldg. 7 fell about 25 minutes after the BBC announced it.
New video of WTC7 controlled demolition showing explosions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f90wHS2jl6g
Rumsfeld said he never heard of building 7 despite it housing various intelligence agencies that were investigating the biggest Wall Street frauds.
This is an admitted fake... why are you posting such crap?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAmegwUdJdA
In case you haven't seen it.
Clinton had significant insight too. or was that actually Bin Laden in HAND!!
Monday morning quarterbacks......
Three times if memory serves correctly.
meanwhile in China, Speculation in China On Possible Assassination Attempt on Number Two Man Xi Jinping
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2012/09/speculation-in-china-on...
and in Japan,
banking minister found hanged at homehttp://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/09/10/uk-matsushita-minister-idUKBRE8...
could the rats be turning on each other worldwide?
stay tuned to "as the world burns"
I really find it amazing that there has not been some "unorthodox" backlash yet here in the US and elsewhere. Almost seems surreal.
ROR!!!
Where's our man on the chinese street (AnAnus) on this?...he'll have the straight poop ;-)
Speaking shit... which you always do... here is something for someone as dense as you to watch repeatedly.
New video of WTC7 controlled demolition showing explosions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f90wHS2jl6g
Rumsfeld said he never heard of building 7 despite it housing various intelligence agencies that were investigating the biggest Wall Street frauds.
Anyone like Nmewn who is a serial 911 denier is suspect. I hope all ZH readers see this about him and remember because he comments on many of these threads.
Anyone who is that active in denying 911 truth has some kind of agenda.
Clashlan
He has already been called out as being a paid psyop agent. Now turn your attention to the top twelve commenters on this GWB article and see how many you can identify as "fellow travelers". Hint: look for the pattern in their posts.
TY Questan. 'Preciate the helpful hints.
Folks who deny 911 truth should always be suspected. It's a bit late in the day for their crap.
But I think I've already down arrowed most of the ones to whom you are referring (not sure, think).
Okay... it's Bush's fault.
Next?
Come on, people. If all this conspiracy nonsense were true, then Obama would have direct access to the information and that means he is hiding something too. So it's Obama's fault now. Are you telling me that the Obama administration, which will do ANYTHING to stay in power, is just going to sweep all the top secret stuff they have on Bush under the rug? That they will seriously avoid a chance to keep their party in power for oh, the next fifty years? If Bush is to blame, then Obama is too. And if Obama is to blame, then he should be arrested and tried immediately. With Bush, if necessary.
They both play for the same team. Another rube falling for the right|left scam.
News Flash!! Both parties are corrupt and feeding at the trough of Wall St./City of London money.
Clinton/Bush/Obummer...all corrupt...all puppets for the banking masters...get it?!?!?!?!
Yes, I am telling you that.
"If Bush is to blame, then Obama is too. And if Obama is to blame, then he should be arrested and tried immediately. With Bush, if necessary."
Who the hell is going to arrest them and on what evidence? Even if you wanted to gather the evidence no one is going to look for it.
Case point Obama shutting down the Amerithrax FBI investigation without them figuring out who was sending weapons grade Anthrax to Congress. They seemed not to care that someone from the U.S millitary was sending WMD direct to Congress. The situation is far more dire than you can imagine.
I think you are asking good fundamental questions. Keep asking. Wish more people would ask the same basic questions. The lack of any real answers tells you what you need to know though. Good luck.
All this is a rehabilitation of Bill Clinton - Clinton had Bin Laden offered to him a on platter. He refused - now the DEMS are running around trying to lay blame everywhere.
Clinton is a failed president, a perjurer, serial adulterer and liar. Enough said.
I recall Clinton being described as a handsome, intelligent, charming pathological liar who could not keep his pecker in his pants. Thought that summed it up pretty well.
indict this sucker for war crimes and treason - and then execute him if found guilty. What does our great nation have a death penalty for if we don't apply it in cases that deserve it most?
The luciferian elite are quite above the law. None of them are ever prosecuted by anyone, for any reason--ever.
Bush? Obama? They are just figureheads for the powers-behind-the-throne ... who are the same under demoRat and republicrony administrations ...
The Bushes--no. They are not nearly such "figureheads" as you would like to believe, GW. Sure, there are families above them in the US--maybe. Maybe one or two. Harriman, Rockefeller... the list is pretty short indeed.
...and the gubbermint was pretending to be on the lookout for "terrorists."
First they bitch because GWB didn't listen to the intelligence reports on OBL and then they complain about GWB taking intelligence reports about WMD's in Irag seriously.
Well folks,Monday morning quarterbacking should be limited to NFL football and not your personal agenda.
lol ...
A key text to understand the middle east "game" from the oil point of view, James Akins 1973 paper :
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~twod/oil-ns/articles/for_aff_aikins_oil_c...
Akins was the guy that audited US oil capacity for Nixon further to the US 71 oil production peak, was then US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, then fired by Kissinger
(and was also in Irak around 68)
The way things have turned out I can see letting it happen. It gave the Government just what it needed to be able to lay on the Control. 911 could have been stopped cold with break in proof cockpit doors. Nineteen hijackers with box cutters and look what it has cost us. Bin Laden got the best bang for his buck in one lick of any man in history.
Cockpit doors could not have stopped remote control. Nor could they have stopped controlled demolitions.
Try again.
I've told you this before. Open your eyes and ears to the mass amount of evidence out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
Try to watch at least some of the video before responding, if you're capable.
roadhazard you are +1000...! i would love to hear osama's take on the ultimate success of the attack..that is the complete shredding of the constitution and arrest without warrant etc etc etc. no fucking way he planned all that to happen.
what is really the shit is that osama attacked us with planes but then our own government did the rest AGAINST US...LOL.
Where is the evidence that links Bin Laden to 9-11?! Amazing how he got NORAD to stand down for two hours while in a cave in Western Pakistan!
There never was any evidence. Even the FBI knew that.
For the many years that bin Laden was on the FBI 10 Most Wanted List, 9/11 was never listed as a reason.
Damnit! You're not supposed to ask those obvious questions --- where's the evidence on OBL?? Where's the evidence on KSM? (They got the "evidence" from Khalid Sheik Mohammed by torturing a "confession" out of him --- ain't that "evidence" enuff for youse????
All evidence is what the jackholes on FoxFiction, CNN, CNBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, NPR, and AP tell us it is. . . .
http://www.youtube.com/embed/Y8EweNlo8LA condensed version of the coverup regarding Israeli men in truck on George Washington bridge with "entire truck load of explosives"
Ocham's Razor:
Ignorance, stupidity, bureaucracy, myopia are the chief causes of 9-11.
[sigh]
Wow!
I'd no idea I could piss-off so many ignorant, stupid, bureaucratic, myopic chiefs in one go.
[Patting self on back]
This post does not raise any theories that 9/11 was an inside job.
However, for the sake of accuracy, Occam's Razor can cut both ways...
And see this ...
George, there is a big difference between LIHOP and MIHOP. If you're to be taken serious, you state which of the two you find more likely and not just nebulous mention Occam's razor.
Just sayin'...
george this is stupid....to claim that bush used the attack to blame a foreign country they wish to attack is a rational idea. to claim that bush orchestrated the attacks is just stupid. come on...this is too stupid to even debate. bush is/was an idiot and our government is as organized as a gay hotdog festival.
Bush didn't do it, dolink. He was the puppet who smiled and lied to us that it was "all those awful muslems" and we had to attack right away. The people who really controlled the USA during the bush administration are still scattered all over our government.
The Bush family's clandestine evil goes back several generations and well into their other surnames. They are far from being idiots. They are one of the most powerful crime families in the Luciferian elite.
There's a Kennedy branch in the Bush tree?
Do tell ;-)
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Very well...I will.
http://hnn.us/articles/697.html
Nmewn, I recognize you as an unapologetic 911 truth denier.
But I do not understand what your point is about Joe Kennedy or how this relates to the Bushes.
Please explain so that I might interact and respond. Your post doesn't seem to match w/your link. Sorry I'm so stupid.
And I recognize you as an unapologetic 911 hysteric. See how that works? Using it like that (denier and hysteric) is a form of propaganda.
The word "denier" (whether used for this topic or global warming) is an attempt to occupy the high moral ground of truth before proving any truth at all. But you can only use it so many times, while having it revealed as vacant and/or a lie , before its power of persuasion is lost...kinda like calling people racist who clearly aren't.
But to your point...
"The Bush family's clandestine evil goes back several generations and well into their other surnames. They are far from being idiots. They are one of the most powerful crime families in the Luciferian elite."
The Kennedy family's clandestine evil also goes back many generations as well. They are not stupid either. They are the product of a crime family, the patriarch of which was a bootlegger and stock market manipulator who went on to become the SEC's first chairman under FDR.
And, most egregiously, a nazi sympathizer.
I alluded to family trees and sarcastically asked about Kennedy's...already knowing the answer...and figured I'd just share it with those who did not know. There is a real difference between stupidity and ignorance my friend, so don't feign stupidity ;-)
Oh, and as for the "denier" word, you are a 911 truth denier. I'm not calling you a racist or anything else, but you DENY. You don't engage on the important facts of the case. If you prefer another term that you think more accurately represents your attitude toward the facts of 911 and the concerns of the "truthers" or "hysterics," please extrapolate, and I will try to be more polite in the terms I use while calling you out on it, which I will continue to do whenever I see you.
Blessings. May you find truth and champion it. It's important to our nation and the world.
The only known facts in this case is...government (through incompetence, probably not malice) allowed islamic fascists into this country on student visas. When the student visas ran out they made no attempt to find them (in fact were prohibited by Gorelicks Wall). They then hijacked planes and used them as weapons instead of the normal "fly to Cuba" and make demands on their "brothers" to be freed from whatever jail they might be in.
Untrained (barely trained) pilots could not hit the exact floors where explosives had been planted (nano-thermite...lol...or otherwise), these were not Piper Cubs they were flying. In fact, if you watch one of the two coming in (can't remember which one) it almost missed, the hijacker was banking hard to make impact...so nano-thermite, pre-planted explosives is out the window.
But you 911 hysterics never go back and say this or that "theory" was wrong...do you?
They were not Mossad suicide pilots, as 911 hysterics first claimed...they were also not remote controlled planes as the first "theory" got disproved...and there was, in fact, air to ground communications (quite a few) of the victims saying who had already been killed and who had been wounded before they then died...there was no "voice recognition software" used (another lie or failed theory, however you want to look at it) to fake air to ground communications, those were real...Ted Olsens wife was on the one that hit the Pentagon and he told her about the other planes that had been hijacked, they both knew she was about to die. The same with Todd Beamer and those on his plane.
We know who did it...and it wasn't fucking Bush. Never let a crisis go to waste (as Rahm said) maybe...but he or Cheney didn't set that up. Its bullshit and you know it.
Now, on the investigation. It left a lot to be desired. The kinetic energy absorbed by the foundations of the surrounding buildings (from the first two dropping) must have been tremendous. We know there was a fire under WT7, deisel tank for a generator if I recall. I would like to have that buildings collapse studied further AND finally an admission by government that incompetence (the student visa program that allowed them in, when they over stayed their visas and didn't attend any classes why they weren't expelled and Gorelick put on the stand instead of standing in judgement.
And I saw the horseshit down below, I'm not "government psy-ops"...lol...I don't know whether to be flattered or pissed...either way, you expose yourself to the charge of censorship when you (or anyone) spouts nonsense like that. But I have to say, look at the time stamps...I knew it would be said before it was said.
Maybe you should be paranoid, you people are your own worst enemy ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz_6jagv_D4
Gosh, Nmewn, this is a particularly flaccid retort. I expect better, but I’m not sure why.
Let me take it piece by piece, okay?
The only known facts in this case is...government (through incompetence, probably not malice) allowed islamic fascists into this country on student visas. When the student visas ran out they made no attempt to find them (in fact were prohibited by Gorelicks Wall). They then hijacked planes and used them as weapons instead of the normal "fly to Cuba" and make demands on their "brothers" to be freed from whatever jail they might be in.
First, these guys trained at military bases. They also partied plenty at strip clubs. Finally, do you know who Colleen Rowley is yet? Sibel Edmonds? You’re brushing over a lot here. I can’t be sure if you know any of it or if you’re ignoring it, but it was far more than a mere matter of some students overstaying their visas, and there are very reasonable questions about how devoutly Muslim they actually were. More interestingly, several of them showed up alive after the fact, which Mueller had to admit.
See here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1559151.stm
And here: http://guardian.150m.com/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm
Mueller even admitted that identity theft was likely involved.
Untrained (barely trained) pilots could not hit the exact floors where explosives had been planted (nano-thermite...lol...or otherwise), these were not Piper Cubs they were flying. In fact, if you watch one of the two coming in (can't remember which one) it almost missed, the hijacker was banking hard to make impact...so nano-thermite, pre-planted explosives is out the window.
Here you have a straw man and a non sequitur. I have consistently maintained, and surely you have seen me assert it by now, that the planes were flown by remote control. Hence the aviation skills of the “hijackers” would not matter. Regardless, you’re suggesting that their skills were good enough to fit the official conspiracy theory but not good enough for something else (whatever that else is, I’m not sure). The non sequitur is that planes needed to hit a certain spot for explosives to work? Or what are you saying? I cannot tell because there is no logical connection that I can see. I don’t want to be accused of playing dumb again, but I have no idea what you’re suggesting. Whatever explosives were there were there independently of the planes hitting or missing. The only reason why the planes needed to hit at all was to sell the official story to the public. And apparently, for folks like you, that wasn’t even necessary for Building 7. Finally, you shrug off nanothermite with a laugh. Is that how you address solid evidence? Several different labs have found unignited nanothermite chips in the rubble. Peer reviewed papers on it have been published in journals, in fact.
See here: http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/thermitics_made_simple.html
And here: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/index.html
And here, from a peer-reviewed journal, on the unignited chips: http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf
I would like to buttress this point by offering that nanothermite cannot be easily produced by just anyone and usually involves military or high-level connections to acquire, so the idea that scientists could just slip this into samples is a tough sell.
I still can’t get over the illogical structure you offer about a plane “nearly missing” having anything to do with whether or not explosives were already in the building. Are you drinking? Hey, I like a tug here and there, too, but this shit is serious, man.
But you 911 hysterics never go back and say this or that "theory" was wrong...do you?
Of course we do, all the time, and we disagree with each other. If you look even nonchalantly, you will see that I’ve disagreed with some on many of these threads. I’ve said that the Silverstein “pull it” comment likely did refer to the fire crews’ presence. I’ve doubted the “no-plane” theory at the Pentagon. These are visible in the threads or by reviewing my comments, and these are both ideas that I once (long before my ZH time) supported, however briefly. I initially jumped on board with the In Plane Sight stuff, too, before finally realizing that it was disinfo (pods under the planes, etc), and I roundly reject the hologram theory. So that’s just a blatantly false statement of yours, then.
They were not Mossad suicide pilots, as 911 hysterics first claimed...they were also not remote controlled planes as the first "theory" got disproved...and there was, in fact, air to ground communications (quite a few) of the victims saying who had already been killed and who had been wounded before they then died...there was no "voice recognition software" used (another lie or failed theory, however you want to look at it) to fake air to ground communications, those were real...Ted Olsens wife was on the one that hit the Pentagon and he told her about the other planes that had been hijacked, they both knew she was about to die. The same with Todd Beamer and those on his plane.
Here is a straw man. You’re really utilizing as many fallacious tools as you can wield, aren’t you? Can you please point to any comment I’ve ever made regarding Mossad pilots? Has anyone suggested that on these threads? If so, I’ve missed it. In fact, you are addressing none of the evidence of Mossad involvement that has been copiously provided by others and me on these threads, and that is suspicious indeed.
The next fallacy is begging the question. You assert that no voice recognition was used, but you merely assert it without any evidence whatsoever to support it. Yet there is plenty of evidence that many of the calls were either impossible or were questionable and that the authorities changed their stories several times about where the calls originated.
See here: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/amrarticle.html
And here: http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20111025080659853
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjImLL4NnwA
And here, Dewdney’s meticulously performed experiments: http://www.physics911.net/projectachilles
I could go on, but again, you demonstrate reticence regarding examining the hard evidence. But the links above specifically address Beamer and Olsen along with others including the FBI’s evolving/changing storyline.
We know who did it...and it wasn't fucking Bush. Never let a crisis go to waste (as Rahm said) maybe...but he or Cheney didn't set that up. Its bullshit and you know it.
No, I don’t know it. I do know a lot about the Bush family, and I do know (as GW has pointed out) that Cheney was in charge of the drills and the counterterrorism that day (along with Myers). Bushmonkey was likely not the planner, no, but he is clearly complicit after the fact at the very least. He resisted the investigation for as long as he could, initially appointed Mitchell and Kissinger to chair the Commission (and they both had to resign for conflict of interest), and then hampered the investigation in many ways. Cheney and Myers both appear to have been in on it. That is not to say that they masterminded the whole operation, just that they were likely knowing participants. I am comfortable with that much.
Now, on the investigation. It left a lot to be desired. The kinetic energy absorbed by the foundations of the surrounding buildings (from the first two dropping) must have been tremendous. We know there was a fire under WT7, iesel tank for a generator if I recall. I would like to have that buildings collapse studied further AND finally an admission by government that incompetence (the student visa program that allowed them in, when they over stayed their visas and didn’t attend any classes why they weren’t expelled and Gorelick put on the stand instead of standing in judgement.
Buildings don’t fall like that, period, for any reason other than controlled demolition. Examine the structures more carefully, and visit AE 911 Truth. See how the central cores were built, how the buildings were designed to withstand passenger airliner impact (which they clearly did), and review the speed at which they fell.
Here is the equation to determine free fall speed: http://www.911blimp.net/prf_FreeFallPhysics.shtml
As for the psyops charges, it is difficult to avoid suspicion when you won’t engage the facts directly and examine the evidence many offer, especially when you fit the profile by name-calling and diversion. I would think that most people would respect the time and effort many truthers put in on these threads. I would think that most people who genuinely care about the event and about the website forum would practice logical interaction and attempt to avoid fallacies. It fits a psyops pattern, at least from my vantage point, and clearly from others' perceptions. If it walks like a duck....
I have seen evidence of your intelligence in the many comments of yours I’ve read over the time I’ve been reading the site, well before I joined. I have seen evidence of your frequent posting on many threads, too. So those of us who know the truth about 911 from years of study might have a difficult time understanding why you respond the way you do, in dismissive, insulting, and obfuscating fashion. I mean, you’re back to the visas again, in circular fashion, without providing any logical structure whatsoever for your attempted debunking of the large amount of evidence provided by many truthers.
Again, I wish you blessings and long to see you attempt to logically engage and eventually embrace the obvious truth. When you present yourself in such an illogical and confrontational manner regarding this particular debate, it affects the readers’ perceptions of all of your other comments, sadly. 911 is a major worldview changer. That’s just how big events like this work.
And we’re not even getting into the temperatures required to melt or even substantially weaken the steel. Do you even know who Kevin Ryan is or UL? Do you understand that the trusses (much weaker than the steel in the central cores or the outer walls) were tested at 2,000 degrees F, under load, before they were put into the building? Can you describe the central cores to me? These are very important considerations. The molten steel pools were there long after the event, and you can easily know this fact, but even if they were there on that day, that is solid evidence that more than office fires or jet fuel were present (and you should be able to know this or easily learn it, too—it’s irrefutable). You need to learn just a little bit about steel and how it behaves.
But I do want to be friendly about our important disagreement, so since I see that you have some appreciation for the satanic Black Sabbath (Bushmonkey did, after all, invite Ozzy to the WH, so it’s no surprise that you finish with occultism for your denouement), I will offer you a cover you might enjoy. Blessings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNLHOTn81Cw