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The Real Meaning of the 1-Year Anniversary of Occupy Wall Street
On this one-year anniversary of the start of the Occupy protests, let’s refresh our memories about what really happened.
Despite the divide-and-conquer tricks of both the mainstream Left and the mainstream Right, Occupy and the Tea Party were originally protesting the exact same thing: the malignant, symbiotic relationship between big government and big corporations. Conservative and liberal protesters both railed against the unchecked power of the Federal Reserve.
Indeed, if the partisan shenanigans on both sides hadn’t derailed the protests so quickly, Occupy and the Tea Party would have joined forces in a way which affected real change.
Highly-militarized, federally-coordinated police used such brutal violence to break up the Occupy protests (see this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this) that the Egyptian military used the crack down on Occupy as justification for the murder of protesters in Tahir Square, Egypt.
(Despite media portrayals, the Occupy protesters were not violent.)
While psuedo-conservatives may laugh, true conservatives do not find this amusing. Remember that according to Department of Defense training manuals, protest is now considered “low-level terrorism”. And see this, this and this). And an Army colonel has written a paper advocating military methods for “crushing” a Tea Party insurgency.
Veterans get it. They know that protecting all political protesters – Occupy, Tea Party, etc. – is the core of American liberty. See this, this and this. Even active-duty police know it.
(While the slur of "dirty hippies, get a job" was applied to Occupy protesters, most of them actually had jobs, and many economists supported their demands. Again, people may agree or disagree about specific positions, but true conservatives defend everyone's right to speech and assembly.)
Speak with most Americans today and you will be amazed that they don’t realize (1) how much police violence was inflicted or (2) that the protesters – like the original Tea Party protesters – were standing up for the American people against the incest between big banks in New York and politicos in Washington.
The bottom line is that the powers-that-be used a combination of brutal violence and disinformation to take the wind out of the protests. Any protests – whether they be of a conservative bent like the Tea party, or a more liberal flavor like Occupy – are doomed to failure unless we can reach the people with the real facts.
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that is some funny shizzle on some
amusing levels and there is truth in that
mix, not my domain but my focus of late.
the light of the sighted is true but the
interpretation of the imagery and cognition
of that is nearly entirely false, hence the blind
alternative referring to principle and mind
, mindfulness. the blind must think for
better or worse; the sighted are blind by
convention. no?
anyway, funny!
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20110623075214726
Kevin Ryan has some interesting credentials
That's really interesting.
My neighbor was a first responder (fire-fighter) and some agency was really after him to fly back up there for an examination. He mentioned something about needing to be tested for "dust".
The company I worked for back then had two floors at Two World Trade and asked for IT volunteers to help with the obvious infrastructure problems. I volunteered and was there a few days later but wasn't asked to be tested for anything.
In re: George's OP: I spent a little time on an Occupy Stream earlier today...and the trollers were out in force...running the full gamut of calls for total anarchy to others suggesting the police should fire nerve gas at them.
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you.
And I'm not an engineer but you'd think once they started coming down; debris would pile up and "avalanche" into nearby structures. All I am sure of is the official story is a lie. People either buy the official story (and some become very angry if questioned) or believe one conspiracy or another. The latter even fight about that. Perfect psy-op to polarize people permanently.
The video is 2 hours long and I haven't finished it but it sure has me scratching my tin-foil hat. So far, this lady has only made observations and has not made a declaration about the cause.
Such is the lot of the hapless scientists. First we must establish the data points without ever being wise or gifted enough to make a declaration of the cause until later, which may not necessarily ever occur. One thing will be certain, that humans will seize upon the narrative of their choice that may as well have the actual relation to the real situation as a bedtime story. Human nature tolerates choas as well as nature tolerates a vacuum; thinking is the hardest thing which ia why so few do it.
The real problem is that every story is a conspiracy. All we can do is look at the evidence we see and draw our own inferences.
Some people have a very difficult time thinking for themselves. They allow the MSM/uncle sugar to do it for them - then they get MAD if you question the MSM or uncle sugar.
We're all in a heap of trouble. Indiviuals probably have it figured out to some extent, the herd however is programmed hard core.
And even PBS is beginning to question the "official" government line.
http://video.pbs.org/video/2270078138
The question of how most of the steel and reinforced concrete in the towers was converted to sub-50 micron powder in less than 20 seconds a piece is not only of critical importance in this ongoing debate but is not explained in the least by kerosine fires, pancaking, thermite, conventional demolition techniques and/or mini-nukes (blast radius anyone?) or even a combination of any/all of these. The rubble piles would have been hundreds of feet high if this "phenomenon" did not occur, which of course they weren't.
"The question of how most of the steel and reinforced concrete in the towers was converted to sub-50 micron powder..."
Although there was a lot of concrete that was turned to dust (more than can be explained by gravity), the question itself is false. There's no direct evidence that a significant amount of steel was "dustified" - dust was only 2% iron content on average (from concrete aggregate and gypsum wallboards). Even if such a thing were possible, acording to Greg Jenkins, a PhD physicist and 9/11 Truther, it would take "over 5 times the total power output of the entire earth including all carbon combustion, nuclear power, wind power and hydroelectric power." This is with no loss. If you include losses, then "the power required swells to at least thousands of earths worth of power."
As far as the concrete, dust samples which were used to establish the presence of nanothermite showed large chunks of irregular sized concrete (one for example was 5 cm X 3 cm X 3 cm) as well as medium-sized pieces of wallboard.
Thanks for your comments but steel content in the dust (naturally these are official government/contract figures?) essentially poses the same question you say is false. If there was only 2% steel in the dust and say we forget about seven floors or so (depth of the undamaged tub) of each building for thermite, where is all the steel? You know how much steel were in those buildings as well as I do and like I say, where was all the steel after "collapse"? I can understand that thermite would rapidly melt steel but how would it make it disappear altogether? Even if the tub ended-up full of molten steel that is still many dozens of floors unaccounted for and it would have been piled high not simply clipped like weeds? I'm not saying I know what happened absolutely but only that some major technicalities have not been explained in the least, case in point. As for Greg Jenkins, PhD physicist, he would no doubt be surprised at what guys like Tesla and Hitchison were doing in there living rooms. He and his hyperbole are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned, don't know about anyone else...
very interesting line of thought.
are you sure that a combination of compaction,
oxidation, vaporization, combustion and hell on
earth implosion and explosion due to multiple
chemical and fuel sources cannot account for the
reduction of volume documented? just asking.
there is a great volume of nothing involved
in everything.
Yeah, I'm fairly sure because I have not heard a rational, scientific explanation of how that much steel can literally disappear that fast due to any of these inputs save for widespread public knowlegde/perception, collateral damage, "exotic weaponry", etc... I am however, like yourself, open-minded if it makes sense. So far it doesn't make any sense. A lot of it doesn't make any sense. Good for us all in at least asking how and why. I'm just asking too but many of the answers don't pass a sniff test or gut check for even for an idiot like myself.
i watch this and see dark and light opacity,
they are different in that; structure
deforming and then gravity and gone? to dust
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9/11: South Tower "Collapse" video compilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyu-fZ2nRA
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Professor Longhair - Every Day I Have The Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ybizbeLVmY
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everyday i have the blues .....
Okay, cool ... I am voting you up for your open spirit of logical debate ...
Occam's Razor Principle: The simplest explanation that requires the fewest unknown or untestable propositions that accounts for all observations is the one most likely to be correct; over a more complex explanation that requires more unknowns and untested propositions.
On that score Judy Wood is a huge fail, and if she were any sort of 'Dr' of scientific philosophy and empirical method she would STFU and quietly apologise for being a cretin.
My take on her is she's most likely a con-artist capitalising on what she knows with all certainty to be pure BS, at best. At worst, she's there as a plant, an avenue and means to bring into question and ridicule and then discredit the whole notion that 9-11 was ever an inside job.
Think it will be one of those two options.
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http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/911-shock-opera-act-4-%E2%80%...
I think it to be an extremely logical conclusion that WTC7 was also wired like WTC1 and WTC2 to collapse.
If flight 93 was intended to hit WTC7 but for "some reason" did not arrive it would help explain answer all of the subsequent drama that followed.
Following the script even when things are not going according to plan?
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooops!
"it's all you tube's fault." what kind of friggin' meme is that? Ask anyone..."it's about more than propaganda." even more...dare I say?..."than mere money." you can choose to fight "it"...or you can choose to "flight it"...but the folks who do the latter will find at best a thin gruel as their reward in my view. At the price of the annihilation of self? That sounds like a steep cost indeed...
What's More Important - Growth Or Policy?
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/17/2012
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/whats-more-important-growth-or-policy
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In the end, the central banks and their "masters" care nothing about money. Why should they? They can create as much money as they want any time they want. They need no one's approval as they have shown many times over the past few years.
So, what has "value" to those who run the world?
1. Power over the people
2. Control of the world's resources
3. Their own security
That's pretty much it.
The wars in the Middle East have all been about the top two. The banks have found it very effective to gains power over the people by making them slaves to money. So, they have quickly installed BIS tied central banks in each country they overthrow. And, the Middle East is full of resources to be taken and hoarded.
Similarly the financial crises have been all about Power over People and Resources. People who are enslaved by debt and the enforcement of unjust laws have no power. Any resources the people had becomes subject to confiscation as a result of the debt and the unjust laws.
It is that simple. Their only danger is pushing it too fast or so far that a large number of people lose so much that they do not mind sacrificing themselves to help the rest of humanity.
... and how exactly did the bankers and politicians lose that humanity anyway?"
I'm convinced this will help: On Tools for Citizenship: the Neglected Essential
You got it, George.
And the fight on NDAA will be continuing in the Courts. Obama and company don't wanna take No for an answer:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/11581-administration-asks-appeals-court-f...
Somehow, I'm not seeing the Tea Party shitting on cop cars and raping girls in the park. Plus, no one had to buy the Tea Party, they are organic grown. They are not paid "rebels" from the George Soros manure spreader.
FORWARD SOVIET!
george your analysis of the ows movement was more like a 'support the troops' kind of moment, except for your sentiments. this does not pass muster as analysis. and not eveyrone here on ZH has the fondest opinion of occupy because not everyone thinks of them as genuine dissidents.
Meanwhile, crickets are chirping in the MSM on this. Go figure. Par for the course.
Better Yet. CNBC wants to direct wage disparities on sports stars vs. average Joe.
Wall Street Banksters still out do sports stars.
Lloyd Blankfein was paid a 100 million dollar bonus for being bailed out by taxpayers. Perspective. For being a Failure.
Lets put up all the wage increases and bonuses of JPM, GS, MS, DB, Barclays and LM.
Who risk their body for the money. The only risk banksters have is NONE.