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Russia Is Sitting on “Trillions of Carats” of Diamonds

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Russia has just declassified a secret it has been keeping for 40 years: it is sitting on trillions of carats of diamonds, enough to supply the global diamond market for 3,000 years.

The diamonds are “twice as hard” as normal, making them ideal for industrial applications, such as diamond saws.

We've previously discussed an even bigger stash of diamonds which may eventually flood the markets: one which is 10 billion trillion trillion carats.

Postscript:  The PBS special The Diamond Empire hinted at Russia's diamond resources in 1994:

If the Russians had dumped their diamonds on the market, it might have put an end to the [diamond] cartel ....

 

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It is perhaps amusing to think that, at the height of the cold war, the eternity ring that was being so successfully marketed in America was filled with stones from Siberia.

 

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Russia has more leverage than other producers. It's diamond production is greater than South Africa's. Its deposits in the ground are immense and its stockpiles may exceed even those of De Beers.

 

Russia's instability and desperate need for hard currency are potentially devastating to De Beers. These millions of carats of diamonds [they were off by a hundred million times or more ... but who's counting?], if suddenly dumped onto the market, could destroy the cartel.

 


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Tue, 09/18/2012 - 03:01 | Link to Comment Hobbleknee
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Yes of course they've had them since the 70s.  That's why they let them sit there as the empire crumbled.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Son of Loki
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They are also sitting on lots of palladium and nickel....much more in demand then diamonds, right?

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 21:42 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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diamonds are rare and valuable
or else there are zillions of them

gold is rare and valuable
or else there are tons and tons of it

petroleum is rare / valuable / peaked
or else it's very plentiful
very very very

crazy!

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 21:02 | Link to Comment adr
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When my mom told me that diamonds are rare and precious, and I told her that they are neither rare nor precious she yelled at me. I printed out an article on diamond mining once and gave it to her. It kind of broke her heart when she realized some Jews conspired to increase the value of a rock, just about as common as quartz, to the insane levels they demand.

I remember watching "Diamonds" on the History Channel and seeing a member of the cartel go to a diamond exchange in Amsterdam. He paid about $200 for a giant bag of uncut diamonds, that would later be cut into a couple hundred thousand dollars worth of cut stones.

Of course there is a level of artistry in cutting diamonds, and that is truly where the value lays. However, the Chinese have done a great job and cutting good diamonds that sell for 1/10th the price. No woman can tell the difference between a 1 carat $800 Chinese diamond and a $20k DeBeers. I've watched them try and most of the time they pick the Chinese diamond because it is in a fancier gold setting.

I bought my wife a Chinese made 3/4 carat princess cut diamond wedding ring with another 1/2 carat worth of accents on clearance at JCPenney for $275. Her mother still thinks I spent at least $5k on it. My wife took the ring to an appraiser one time and he gave it a $2200 retail value. I laugh every time my brother in law talks about spending $2500 on my sister's ring. I told him he got Jewed.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 20:29 | Link to Comment elementary
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South Africa and London have been "hiding" diamonds for decades to keep the price on the open market elevated. It was estimated about 10 years ago that every diamond bought for the little woman was worth 1/10th of the price paid. In other words, my sister-in-law's rock is really worth only $4250, not the $42,500 my brother paid.  Don't have the heart to tell him, cuz status is everything, you know.

Every market is manipulated. Why would diamonds be any different?

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 21:42 | Link to Comment a growing concern
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Damn.  42 grand would buy a lot of hookers and blow.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Pejorative Requiem
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Diamonds have always been of controlled value. So Vladamir is threatening to open a spigot that De Beers always knew was there. Why? When you're dealing with a quasi-dictatorship like the USSR, the answer could be as simple as someone pissing off Putin.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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I wouldn't be too worried about the white dwarf source, heh.

First there's the ridiculous distance.

Then there's the fact that a "white dwarf" is a theoretical mathematical construct, as are black holes and dark matter.  These improbable (to absurd) contructs, come from trying to explain the enormous observed energies soley with gravity, the weakest of all forces.  Electromagnetic energy is 10^37 stronger.  The nuclear furnace model of the sun is also a matter of theory -- a theory that increasingly fails to explain observations. 

See

http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Sky-Challenge-Modern-Astronomy/dp/B0014EBOD8/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347927095&sr=1-2&keywords=Electric+sky

or

http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Universe-Wallace-Thornhill-Talbott/dp/0977285138/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347927095&sr=1-3&keywords=Electric+sky

and

www.thunderboltsproject.com

 

 

 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 20:35 | Link to Comment Savyindallas
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Man am I smart  -my instincts have told me for years not to buy my nagging, compaining superficial wife a big diamong ring. I  DO BUY GOLD AND SILVER JEWELRY BUT SHE HAS A REAL NICE FAKE DIAMOND. TURNS OUT THE FAKE DIAMOND MAY BE JUST AS EXPENSIVE AS THE REAL ONES -ONCE THE RUSSIANS FLOOD THE MARKET. I DON'T LIKE DIAMOND DEALERS ANYWAY  -A BUNCH OF BANKSTER ISRAELI NAZI TYPES DOWN IN SOUTH AFRICA -REAL SCUM.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 20:01 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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Actually, diamonds are fairly commonplace. DeBeer's allegedly has warehouses full. It's something of a myth that they have intrinsic value; much like Federal Reserve Notes.......lmfao.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 22:32 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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Worked in NYC with someone whose husband was in the diamond trade.  A co-worker wanted to buy an engagement ring.  She sent him to her husband where he got a good (high quality stone) for less than half of what he was quoted elsewhere and you know the guy was STILL Making money on the sale.

If you go out and buy an engagement ring - or any diamond - and go to sell it the next day you'll be LUCKY to get HALF of what you paid.   I won't get into how flaws are covered up and colors artificially enhanced (though one batch of colored diamonds was found to be highly dangerous to any wearer because the colors had been intensified by RADIATION - they'd been put near the core of a nuclear reactor)

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 22:31 | Link to Comment CunnyFunt
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The notion of intrinsic value is a myth. It's all subjective.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:56 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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What would we do without George to "regurgitate" the latest feed from the lefty toads at Yahoo?

 

Stick to pandering to the phat phuk parasites in DC George.  It's the only thing you do well..., or at all.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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I think it was Za Za Gabor who said, "girls, when you break off the engagement always return the ring...........just keep the diamond."

Well, it looks like it's going to be the other way round now.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:24 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Time for the diamond cartel to blow up and DIAF!

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:12 | Link to Comment pursueliberty
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Try explaining this to a woman, though mine does kind of understand it all.  One of the biggest rackets is men spending that kind of money on a stone.  I know a gal whose ring cost exactly one year of her husbands salary.  We joke that she is paying for it with her higher paying job.

My wife got a really nice ring.  I got a really nice yachtmaster as my wedding gift from her.  My watch is "worth" more than her more expensive ring, and much easier to sell in a bind.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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It's called artificial scarcity, unless Russia says F you to the diamond cartel.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment jonjon831983
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Unless Russia was secretly part of the cartel - they did say F U to the diamond cartel by playing along with it the whole time...

 

Keeping the find secret for 40 years... and selling from their other mine all this time???

 

Sneaky Russians ;)

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment q99x2
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What are they stupid. Why don't they sell them before the collapse? They would get more now. After the surviving people climb out of the tunnels they could grind them up and use them of industrial purposes. Probably be a big demand for industrial products then.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:04 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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Also- "Global Diamond Market" and "3000 years" is a bit of reach.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:11 | Link to Comment George Washington
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Are you trying to insult me?

If so, you might try this:

 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:44 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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Sorry George, it's the gin.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:59 | Link to Comment George Washington
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No problem, brother ... add some vermouth ...

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:02 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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At this juncture, WHO FUCKING CARES?

 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:55 | Link to Comment Tango in the Blight
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Diamonds can be used to make a killer LaZ0r weapon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt_Kn4DggPg

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:47 | Link to Comment topspinslicer
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I don't trust the Ruskies, they stole my grandfather's shoes

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Joebloinvestor
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I hope the DeBeer's are reduced to doing charity work.

Another cartel on its' way out.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:46 | Link to Comment MrPalladium
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Gentlemen Prefer Blonds.

Those "rocks" might not lose their shape, but, notwithstanding the propaganda campaign, once their commonness is understood prices could collapse to reflect supply.

With low birth rates, every young man in the marrying class will inherit a diamond ring from his grandmother, to give to his sweetheart.

Of course, those who have read Jane Austen's novels, will realize that the giving of an engagement diamond is a modern contrivance and give his lady a 10 oz ingot of gold as a token of his affection instead.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:48 | Link to Comment jonjon831983
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Wtf... they used to give gold as a token of affection? ok, screw it keep the diamonds in play.  I'll keep any gold.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:35 | Link to Comment Rasna
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Buying gem quality diamonds is a suckers game. 

As previously noted, the world is awash with diamonds with prices controlled by the cartel.  You buy a diamond at MAX price (how this is determined, I don't know).  If you then sell, a "broker" will buy it from you at a "DISCOUNT" that would make Jon Corzine blush... It's a racket... Now that I think of it I remember seeing Jon down in the Diamond District.

WHY THE HELL HAS JON CORZINE NOT BEEN INDICTED?  Oh, I remember... Eric Assholder is the AG...

My bad.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:34 | Link to Comment Diamond Jim
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There are plenty of diamonds around, both synthetic and naturally mined. But as alluded to above, many are 1/2 carat and under. The half caraters end up in India to be cut if they pass the mustard. Many, not colorless or nearly so end up in diamond polish that I use to polish sapphires, tourmalines etc. There are several stones more rare, more expensive...alexandrite, benitoite, even ruby. Diamonds are a chump game: buy one for $10k, if you need to sell it afterwards because you end up splitting up, you'll be lucky to get $2k.  Larger stones have gone up over 20% in the last couple of years...harder to find in F or better color and VS clarity.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment Sweet Chicken
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Hey Jim, where you from and are you in the industry? I've been a gemologist now for almost twenty years grading in labs all around the world. Nice to see someone else with knowledge on the subject.

Guess who's been buying up most of the higher quality material? Yep...the chinese. They can buy higher quality goods in the US with the strength of their JUAN (haha) and turn it in China for a considerable profit. Actually it's not even the color so much as the clarity. I've seen them swalow up parcels of VS J-K color goods without blinking an eye.

If you want to talk shop email me at nosebleed111@gmail.com

Anthony

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:33 | Link to Comment falak pema
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so should we all marry those russian women; do they have a dowry of diamonds attached to their navels?

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:45 | Link to Comment George Washington
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There are a LOT of beautiful women in Russia ... and Thailand, California, Paris, Japan, Beijing and ...

As a matter of fact ...

(Ahem ... sorry, now back to your regularly scheduled commodities discussion )

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Raymond Reason
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It's your choice:  Peace of mind, or piece of ass. 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:21 | Link to Comment deerhunter
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I have friends in South Africa and have traveled there on occasion.  The world is really awash in diamonds and DeBeers et al have run a very successful Cartel for the past century or thereabouts.  The Afrikaaners chuckle when they think of poor sods over here in USA paying 2 months salary for a stone.  Give me rubys or gold anyway says the wife. 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Robslob
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Yeah but but how much of those "cartel" owned diamonds are Cubic Zirconium???

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Banjo
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Supply and demand :)

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:05 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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that bling-bling planet is gonna put Swarovski out of business in double-quick time 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 17:09 | Link to Comment infiniti
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I was always under the impression that the world is awash in tiny diamonds whose clarity/color is not fit for the consumer market - but that larger (2+ carat) diamonds with no color or imperfections were extremely rare. Does anybody have any sources on that info?

 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:12 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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Industrial processes now exist for the economical manufacture of diamonds better than those found in nature.  In fact, this is part of the rational for de Beers serializing their product - so you can ensure that that you are getting a "real" dug from the ground diamond soaked in the proper quantity of blood.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:45 | Link to Comment jonjon831983
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Useless kimberlite process with so many loopholes.

 

Please don't say manufactured diamonds.  They're called Cultured Diamonds.

 

:)

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:52 | Link to Comment Sweet Chicken
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They are manufactured in a laboratory and are called synthetic diamonds. There is no difference in the material only the process in which they are grown. Same goes for synthetic Corrundum (Ruby & Sapphire) whether by Flame Fusion or Flux process.

Creating synthetic diamonds is not easy and nor is it cheap. At this point in time buying real diamonds is cheaper and more affordable. Also presently they are not able to grow 2carat plus gem quality synthetic diamonds.

This is a subjectI am very well informed and active in.

 

If anyone needs help/advice in this area feel free to email me at nosebleed111@gmail.com

 

Anthony

 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Dr Benway
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I posted a classic article here a couple of times called "have you ever tried to sell a diamond" from Atlantic magazine. Read it.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 20:41 | Link to Comment LoneuhRanger
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Wow! A great eye opening, finger swelling, wallet closing article!

No mind control happening here!

Thank you Doctor, I feel better now.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 17:22 | Link to Comment eddiebe
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Well if this is true... Goes to show the power of cartels.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 21:03 | Link to Comment imbtween
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It's totally true - diamonds are openly manipulated because the market doesn't fall under the auspices of any authority with any meaning, so the price is what deBeers says it is. You know how some people feel about gold in the "why is this more valuable than sand?" sense? I feel that way about diamonds. If they let them float in an open market they'd be worthless.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 19:38 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Fortunately only the diamond cartel has the power to create this kind illusion.  The energy market, for example,  is free, transparent and efficient.  And we have all the facts relative to the energy market.  We're running out!!

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 18:19 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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Well don't expect to hear about this in Western media anytime soon, they'll probably just air it 1nce to debunk it

they will put it right next to Sasquach and Yeti maybe even mention Elvis if they're on a roll that day

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