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2 U.S. Supreme Court Justices – And Numerous Other Top Government Officials – Warn of Dictatorship

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Former Supreme Court Justice David Souter told University of New Hampshire School of Law that the “pervasive civic ignorance” in the U.S. could bring dictatorship:

I don’t worry about our losing a republican government in the United States because I’m afraid of a foreign invasion. I don’t worry about it because of a coup by the military, as has happened in some other places. What I worry about is that when problems are not addressed people will not know who is responsible, and when the problems get bad enough — as they might do for example with another serious terrorist attack, as they might do with another financial meltdown — some one person will come forward and say:  ‘Give me total power and I will solve this problem.’

 

That is how the Roman republic fel.  Augustus became emperor not because he arrested the Roman senate. He became emperor because he promised that he would solve problems that were not being solved.

 

Former Supreme Court justice Sandra Day O’Connor has also warned of dictatorship.

Of course, they’re not the only ones warning of fascism.  We noted in April:

Senator Frank Church – who chaired the famous “Church Committee” into the unlawful FBI Cointel program, and who chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee – said in 1975:

“Th[e National Security Agency's]  capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide.  [If a dictator ever took over, the N.S.A.] could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back.

Now, the NSA is building a $2 billion dollar facility in Utah which will use the world’s most powerful supercomputer to monitor virtually all phone calls, emails, internet usage, purchases and rentals, break all encryption, and then store everyone’s data permanently.

 

The former head of the program for the NSA recently held his thumb and forefinger close together, and said:

We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state

(Indeed, we are getting very close, as shown here, here and here).

As we noted in 2008:

Democratic and Republican congress members are sounding the alarm: tyranny is here.

 

For example:

  • Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX) says:

“I have been thrown out of more meetings in this capital in the last 24 hours than I ever thought possible, as a duly elected representative of 825,000 citizens of north Texas.”

 

Burgess asks the Speaker of the House to post the bailout bill on the internet for at least 24 hours instead of passing the largest piece of legislation in US financial history in the “dark of night.”

 

Rep. Burgess’ says, “Mr. Speaker I understand we are under martial law as declared by the speaker last night.” (Note: For an explanation of what he meant by martial law, see this)

  • Congresswoman Kaptur (D-OH) says:

“My message to the American people don’t let Congress seal this deal. High financial crimes have been committed.

 

The normal legislative process has been shelved. Only a few insiders are doing the dealing, sounds like insider trading to me. These criminals have so much political power than can shut down the normal legislative process of the highest law making body of this land.”

 

We are Constitutionally sworn to protect and defend this Republic against all enemies foreign and domestic. And my friends there are enemies.”

 

The people pushing this deal are the very ones who are responsible for the implosion on Wall Street. They were fraudulent then and they are fraudulent now.”

Of course, there are many other indications that tyranny has already come to Amerca, including the permanent stationing of U.S. troops inside the country to quell “civil unrest” and the probable suspension of normal constitutional government for a state of emergency “continuity of government” operation.

 

This is not entirely new. In 2006, the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities wrote:

“House leadership invokes ‘martial law,’ forcing members to vote on key bills without full knowledge of what they are voting on: move represents erosion of the democratic process”

 

Indeed, many people, including high-level politicians, have been warning of tyranny in the U.S. for some time. As three of many examples:

Indeed, there is overwhelming evidence that the U.S. is quickly drifting into tyranny.  See this, this, this, this, this, this, thisthis and this.

 

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Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:49 | 2811894 Jay the savage
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“fearful enough that they will accept the man on the white horse”

This comment made me think of the white horse in the biblical reference, not as pestilence, but the other translation of conqueror, who holds a bow and a victor's crown.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:07 | 2811724 indio007
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MBTA leaders tour future emergency training center in South Boston

http://www.metro.us/boston/local/article/1152183--mbta-leaders-tour-future-emergency-training-center-in-south-boston

 

Red Line commences bio-testing, Wednesday

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2012/08/red-line-bio-testing.html

The Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) released inert biological agents on the Red Line, early this morning before the day's commute, the beginning of a series of tests of a new system designed to prevent a biological weapons attack.

 

Wearing a hard hat and a yellow reflective vest today, MBTA acting General Manager Jonathan Davis stood alongside construction workers at an eerie underground construction site on Foundry Street in South Boston, which in a few months will be a fully functioning training center meant to better prepare T workers and first responders for emergencies.

 

 

WHEN THE SHIT GOES DOWN YOU BETTER BE READY

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:49 | 2811633 indio007
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Sounds like Souter know about the 9/11 fraud 

 

" What I worry about is that when problems are not addressed people will not know who is responsible and when the problems get bad enough — as they might do for example with another serious terrorist attack........"

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:44 | 2811359 Clowns on Acid
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...this is what money printing by the Fed leads to. Why is the 2 Party system so at odds with each other right now? Why can't "Congress" agree on anything?

Because there is so much Federal and Fed money available, the "winner" gets that much monetray power to disburse to their friends.

Cut the deficit , stop printing money....before it is too late,

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:27 | 2811533 TSA gropee
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American two party system. Definition: A false paradigm, an illusion to lull the masses into thinking their vote actually means something or will change anything.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:11 | 2811472 rustymason
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They are supposed to fight and argue, but they are supposed to (ostensibly) eventually arrive at truth. They are all in agreement, however, that it is better to lie to us and keep the party going in order to keep their jobs and their illegal million$.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:44 | 2811357 Banksters
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The game is over. Flag waving contests will still take place on the 4th of July.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:20 | 2811230 shovelhead
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Make sure to pay your Federal Taxes.

Writing laws like NDAA is expensive and lawyers and lobbyists need to be paid for their hard work.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:05 | 2811146 TSA gropee
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Day in and day out we ,(those who seek to awaken or stay awake) swim through a cesspool of info and disinfo. While even taking steps back from any issue sometimes does little to clarify or bring the truth to light. For a sprinkling of a little truth in a lie, distraction or deflection does much to muddle what the truth actually is or might actually be.

I find taking a step back along with being open to having my opinions or assumptions being wrong still works best. As I read the articles here on ZH, especially those by GW and others like him, I try and digest it and figure out what are his points. Then I sift down through the comments picking out what I think to be the most logical "truths" combined with what other info I know, or think I know and then based on the aggregate of them, formulate a new opinion, or alter an existing one.

From a first person account and as I look around me, I see more and more military vehicles both airborne and trailored in my area here in the southwest. That, along with the passage by dictate of legislation like NDAA, and the 2000 page strong obamacare, I find I have a growing sense of forboding. Paranoid, maybe. Should I be, probably.

All this reminds me of an H.G. Wells quote, and writing some 80 years ago Well's writes, "Countless people will hate the NWO, and millions will die protesting against it"

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:45 | 2811610 iDealMeat
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I junked you..  BBC is the same MSM garbage in the UK..   While the fear mongering is real, I stopped watching the second it suggested that Kota<sp> inspired those who flew the planes in 9-11..

Camel riding desert dwellers never could have pulled that off..  ever..  I don't care how many hours they spent on M.S. Flight Sim..

You either have years and years of (military) flight experience..  Or, you set the auto pilot navigation from point A to point B via GPS..

My guess is the latter.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:22 | 2810898 boiltherich
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There would be no place to hide. [If a dictator ever took over, the N.S.A.] could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:45 | 2811363 Little John
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The Hell There won't !  Quit Being a whining pussy and get a rifle.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:55 | 2810751 Yes We Can. But...
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Will Mitt on Inauguration Day ride in on a white horse?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:24 | 2810907 kaiserhoff
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Will Barry finally find his birth certificate?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:22 | 2810900 DC Exile
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Yes, after being sworn-in by placing his hand on The Book of Mormon.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:50 | 2810702 Shizzmoney
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They don't even acknowledge the proles anymore.  I mean, all Bloomberg and Quan has to do during OWS was to go down to the occupations, and TALK to these fucking people.  They didn't even have to change shit (which they wouldn't anyways).  Just TALK to the motherfuckers; show some balls, man!  Instead, they ignored them, and almost started a fucking riot in Oakland.

I think what the Obama 2008 "southern republican guns and religion" and the Romney 2012 "47% of the people are dependent peons" voter missives (to private donors) proves is that the political class (the "government fascist class" that resides in Wall St, Boston, Dallas, and Washington) view those who disagree with them as "expendable".

And, considering that Congress has a, oh, 12% favorability rate.....it's safe to say that government policies, no matter WHAT "side" the people running the show is on, is against that 88%.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:48 | 2811369 sgt_doom
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Sadly, the majority of the American population is still an infantilized population, ignorant of arithmetic and amortization, rendering it highly difficult to explain the obvious to them (as in we don't exist in a consumer-based economy, but a fantasy-finance based mirage).

And with neocon after neocon (Reagan, Bush#1, Clintons, Bush#2, Obama) it's kind of late in the day to consider a dictator in the future -- regardless of what those anti-worker types like Ron Paul and Barr proclaim!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:12 | 2811184 optimator
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I'm sure I'm considered, "On the dole", as I receive a retirement check, Medicare, and SS.  "They" consider that "Their" money and that I should not be entitled to it. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:44 | 2811360 sgt_doom
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Don't be offended by my response to you, optimator, but you are the perfect example of the dire circumstances the indoctrinated American population now resides.

Your response is personal, you have personalized the situation.

The vast majority of Ameritards only acknowledge something when it happens to them -- or directly affects them -- there is normally no awareness of their surroundings, their environment, the actual economy and culture they exist in.

Just as most Americans are completely oblivious to the totally corrupt society today, the completely fraud-based society we exist in, should all read Ellen Schultz's book, Retirement Heist, and David Cay Johnston's, The Fine Print, to glean a reality-based understanding of just how corrupt things universally are today.

There are people out there, in America, who actually believe that the likes of recent radio show personalities like Stephanie Miller, Bill Press, Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann are "progressives" 'cause they claim to be, the way Bush #1 claimed to be a caring conservative!!!!

Those who support Wall Street and the status quo are the devils against us, the enemy, and they remind me of every unethical rightwinger, who claimed to be a dem, and thought mass murder was acceptable as long as it was performed by a dem!

It's time to awaken....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:26 | 2810625 cherry picker
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People loved Adolf too.

I remember in the early seventies stopping in a bar and saying hi to two friends.  Their father was with them, a former member of the Wermacht.

He was drunk and lamenting the former glory of the Reich.  I was born in Holland and my parents lived through the occupation.  We almost started world war three that night.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:50 | 2811380 sgt_doom
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Exactly and well said -- they voted for Adolph, the way they voted for Nixon (twice) and Reagan, and the Bushes and were so easily fooled by the Clintons and Obama.

I will reel through all the evil and vile things the Clintons and Obama have done, but they always insanely respond, but "they're the lesser evil" --- the infantilized American.....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:09 | 2811465 blunderdog
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Nixon happened to be a TREMENDOUS President.  Yeah, he was insane, a little racist, and a bit crooked, but he was one of the most effective Presidents of the post-war period.

You know Hunter S. Thompson hated Nixon--but did you also know that he said he'd GLADLY have voted for him in '04 if he'd been on the ballot?

Throwing Nixon's name in with the rest of them really isn't fair to the guy. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:13 | 2811192 greggh99
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The I was not a Nazi Polka http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNqoX7Z7OJ0

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:14 | 2810578 Fred Hayek
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Souter?  Fuck him.

If he was so worried about tyranny in America then why did he rubber stamp Big Brother's "I should be able to take your land whenever I want" Kelo position?

Souter's that certain kind of jackass who creates something despite repeated warnings about what he's creating and then finally recoils in feminine horror just early enough to claim the moral status of having said something.

Souter's only waking up because now it's obvious that Big Brother won't always be a smily, happy, up with people Big Brother.  But he helped create it.

Fuck him.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:10 | 2811738 Jungle Jim
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You're right about Souter and the Kelo decision.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:11 | 2810569 rustymason
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The coup happened over a hundred years ago, when the socialists, communists, fascists, and social busy-bodies captured our schools. Dictatorship was assured after that.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:50 | 2811634 Ignatius
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Right.  Check out John Taylor Gatto (books and youtubes) on the real history of compulsory schooling.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:07 | 2810838 Darth Sidious
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actually, it happened in 1864 when the south surrendered to northern tyranny.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 00:02 | 2813889 Nick Jihad
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Nope, the big mistake was Women's Suffrage. As soon as women got the vote, the very first things they did were the Income Tax and Prohibition. The ladies have been voting to geld the bill of rights ever since.  Feminism is just Marxism, without the math.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:37 | 2811327 Ckierst1
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Totally right on the mark!  I couldn't agree more.  Lincoln actually enslaved all free citizens.  My only modification would be to acknowledge that the seeds of this mess were sewn into the original fabric of the US Constitution, which was NOT divinely inspired as it contained an elitist power grab and the indelible fingerprints of monarchist Alexander Hamilton.  The ink was barely dry when they were already converting the revenue tariff to a protective tariff and they were already trying to screw the veterans.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:01 | 2810799 elementary
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They didn't capture just the schools.  Don't forget our Constitution, our churches, our politicians, our judges, our individuality, our traditions and everything we call the American way of life.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:04 | 2810537 Darth Sidious
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First they came for the socialists
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the jews
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:31 | 2810655 otto skorzeny
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that's the most overused piece of Jew propaganda claptrap ever uttered

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:05 | 2810819 Darth Sidious
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your missing the point, idiot. 

 

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:54 | 2811402 sgt_doom
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The point being that the Rockefellers, Morgans, Mellons, Du Ponts, Kochs were running the show back then and they're still running the show, only this time almost everyone is completely clueless and nobody knows who owns anything, and the Ameritard is soooo completely ignorant and stupid they don't even realize the value of such knowledge?

Matt Taibbi wrote an excellent article at his blog site the other day, and mentioned both Goldman Sachs and the DTCC, only -- and most unfortunately -- Taibbi appeared to be ignorant that Goldman Sachs was one of the owners of the DTCC (along with JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse and the NYSE -- and wonder who owns the NYSE??).

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:26 | 2810916 TSA gropee
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Obviously, there are at least 3 other morons besides Otto von racist that missed your point as well. I thought it was a good allegory. But shit, wtf do I know?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:43 | 2810711 cherry picker
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There were 6 million Jews they say, but rarely is mentioned over 12 million died in the camps.

Blacks, gays, people with mental problems, political opponents, you name it.

Stalin was just as bad.

The phrase isn't used enough.

I had two uncles die in POW camps and my grandfather died in the hell of WW2.

You know not of what you speak.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:39 | 2811001 hivekiller
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Six million Jews didn't die in any concentration camps much less 12 million additional people. Stop listening to Jew propaganda. The lie of six million is part of the myth hard wired into Jews about returning to Palestine. It's a lie - get it. A lie. However, the Jews who ran the Soviet Union did murder 20 to 60 million Russians. When are the fucking Jews going to pay for that crime? Probably never because THEY ARE VICTIMS !!!!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:51 | 2811076 cherry picker
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You calling my mother a Jew propogandist?

She was there when neighbors, some of them Jews, were taken.

No one had peace those days.

Even the Germans admitted what they did.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:56 | 2812296 hivekiller
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The Germans admitted their guilt just like Muslims admitted they carried out 9/11 - after being tortured or threatened. Works every time. Nuremberg was just a show trial like the ones Jews carried out in the Solviet Union.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:22 | 2810605 Bob
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Sad . . . it almost looks like you came to the wrong place. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 08:53 | 2810493 spanish inquisition
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George,

So one of the unanswered question regarding the NDAA was "Can you arrest journalists?" Looking back to Augustus, maybe the question should be "Under the NDAA, do you think you can arrest Representatives, Senators and Supreme Court Justices?"

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:03 | 2811438 blunderdog
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"Arrest"?  Hell, no.  No "arrests" involved whatsoever.

1st point: a cop can "arrest" anyone for anything at ANY TIME.  They do not need any evidence of a crime, nor do they need any probable cause or reasonable suspicion.  The arrest is just the START of a long process with lots of stuff.

2nd point: the NDAA is all about eliminating the burdensome restraints of government power. 

Given current law, the need never "arrest" people--that's about law-enforcement and crime and stuff like that.  Much easier to simply DETAIN people--which involves nothing other than the discretion of some Executive Branch authority with access to the list of "known or suspected terrorists."

Detention would be bad enough if we had any interest in habeas corpus in this country, but to take it another step, why even detain "known or suspected terrorists" when it's just as easy to authorize killing them?  That's VERY appealing because everything is way cheaper when you needn't bother with incarceration, interrogation, food and/or medical care, etc.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:31 | 2810626 Money 4 Nothing
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I won't speak for George, but my take on this is in 2009, the MIAC Report was released to all Departmental Govenment agencies and LEO to serve as a briefing of a new domestic terrorism threat labled a "clear and present danger" on Amrerican soil citing damn near all Americans to be considered the new domestic enemy / terrorist.

That was this Administrations Overt act of war against Americans, NDAA galvinized that brief. Civilian attatchment 1030, 1031 and 1021. They can assasinate, detain, torture or ship you off shore at will if they *think* in their opinion you support any issue outlined in that brief. 

If you participate in the fucked up system spending non soveriegn FRN's and paying your taxes then your not considered the adverse party to you govenment and they should be disoved through any means necessary according to the perscription stated in our Constitution.

Look up IRS code 601.602 and you will find it's volentary participation, so stop funding State Sponsored terrorism ie (USAID) et al.

Our Governance / Administration does not work for We the People anymore, they work for the Corporation of the united States best interest now, aka Big Banks.

So geting back to the question, yes NDAA goes both way's IMHO, once this Administrations will over Governance becomes tyranacle or opressive to Civil Liberties or Sovereign right's enumerated under the Bill of Right's and our Constitution pre 1871 aka the organic Constitution of 1776 signed in 1778, it is our duty to throw the bum's out and it's totally legal, they just don't want you to know that.

They shall be abolished and trials shall be set for High Crimes and misdemenors / Treason.

My closing statement.. Do you feel "Represented?" Then Stop trading with the Enemy. Time is running short.

 

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 08:48 | 2810479 topspinslicer
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Will it be a soft tyranny with food stamps and unemployment for all and as far as the eye can see? People will vote for that kind. It's all about the vote -- the vote makes it moral

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 09:33 | 2810662 otto skorzeny
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Mittens was right with his statement-then he backed down like the pandering pussy he really is

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:16 | 2810875 Money 4 Nothing
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Agreed, Mittins is set up to loose against the Too Big to Fail.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 08:46 | 2810472 mrktwtch2
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watch the movie the running man that was set in the year 2022..how long till we have "quadrants" and need passes to move around the counrty??

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:56 | 2811668 iDealMeat
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+District 12

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