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Will Israel Blow Up Something and Falsely Blame It On Iran?
According to U.S. officials, Israel is training and supporting Iranian terrorists who are trying to topple the Iranian government. Those Israeli-funded terrorists have faked documents to falsely indicate that Iran is building a nuclear bomb. 1
Israel has admitted to previous use of false flag attacks to justify war against Middle Eastern nations.
For example, Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this).
Numerous high-level government officials have warned that a false flag may be launched against Iran to start a war: 2
- Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski (who helped to create Al Qaeda to fight the soviets in Afghanistan) told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation.
- Daniel Ellsberg – the famous Pentagon Papers whistleblower – said “if there is another terror attack, “I believe the president will get what he wants”, which includes war with Iran
- Robert David Steele – a 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer – says that elements within the U.S. government are trying to carry out a false flag operation and blame it on Iran
- Former high-level CIA officer Michael Scheuer – who was the head of the CIA unit tasked with capturing Bin Laden – says that Israel or Saudi Arabia could be setting up Iran as a way to foment war 3
- Ron Paul has warned of a “Gulf of Tonkin type incident” in Iran
- Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh says many ideas have been proposed for provoking a war, including building boats that look like Iranian boats, and then putting Navy Seals on them to “start a shoot-up”
- The highly influential Brookings Institution wrote a report in 2009 called “Which Path to Persia?” which states (pages 84-85):
It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.)
- A former member of the British Parliament stated that “there is a very real danger” that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran
- A number of very high-level former intelligence officers – including several that personally briefed presidents every day on matters of national security – stated that better communications between the U.S. and Iran were needed to “reduce the danger of … covert, false-flag attack”
One of America’s top constitutional and military law experts – Jonathan Turley – writes today:
Many critics have argued that there is a concerted effort to push the United States into a war with Iran by supporters of Israel. Patrick Clawson, director of research for the highly influential pro-Israel Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) think tank, seemed intent to prove those rumors true this week in comments as a luncheon on “How to Build US-Israeli Coordination on Preventing an Iranian Nuclear Breakout.” Clawson casually discusses how to create a false flag operation to push the U.S. into war to overcome any reluctance by the public. We have been discussing how many leaders like Senator Joe Lieberman had begun to use the same rhetoric that led to the last two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how the suggest timing of an attack has been tied to the presidential election.
In his remarks, Clawson helpfully lists a series of historical events used to push the country into war like the Gulf of Tonkin incident that gave us the Vietnam War. Clawson expressed his frustration in acknowledging that it is “[v]ery hard for me to see how the United States President can get us to war with Iran.” However, there is hope. Clawson explains that the “traditional way” to get the country into a war is through false flags or manufactured incidents where Americans are killed. Thus, he observes, “we are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians, we could get nastier about it. So, if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.”
The fact that one of the leading analysis for the WINEP would feel comfortable in making such comments is itself quite chilling. It indicates that such discussions have become sufficiently regular that it has creeped into public discussion. It is a measure of the secret pressure building to push this country into a third major war despite our crippling economic conditions and losses in military personnel. The assumption in Washington is that neither Romney nor Obama could oppose such a war. Even if Obama does not publicly support Israel, the assumption is that political allies of Israel in Washington can guarantee that we would offer extensive military loans and intelligence. Even if there is a delay in such military loans and support, the assumption is that Israel can go to war with the understanding that the United States will cover a significant portion of the costs. Moreover, in his remarkably candid remarks, Clawson shows how the U.S. can easily be forced into direct combat by pushing Iran to simply kill some Americans or sink a few of our ships. Then members would be clamoring for revenge. Notably, the Israelis have been ratcheting up the war rhetoric in pushing Iran, which predictably has now reserved the right to engage in a preemptive strike not just against Israeli but U.S. interests. We would then, again, find ourselves in a war without any public debate or collective decision.
While Clawson adds a passing caveat that he is not advocating such an approach, his remarks are clearly designed to show how the group can get the United States into a war for Israel if only we can get Iran to kill some of our citizens or soldiers. Those people are of course expendable props in Clawson’s realpolitik.
By the way, Clawson has been enlisted to give his insightful analysis at the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. He is also a member of the National Defense University’s Institute for National Strategic Studies. The World Bank connection is particularly interesting given the history with Paul Wolfowitz who pushed the U.S. into two disastrous wars in the Bush Administration and was rewarded with being made the head of the World Bank.
It is the callous disconnect that is most chilling in these remarks. Thousands of U.S. soldiers have died or have been crippled for life in these wars that have left the country near bankruptcy (and increasingly hostile “allies” in Afghanistan and Iraq). Those casualties and costs, however, appear immaterial in the discussion of supporting Israel in a war against Iran.
1 Top American and Israeli military and intelligence officials actually say that:
- Even if Iran did build a nuclear bomb – it would not be that dangerous, because Israel and America have so many more nukes. And see this
- Attacking Iran would only speed up its development of nuclear weapons, empower its hardliners, and undermine the chance for democratic reform
2 False flag attacks have been carried out against Iran in the past. For example, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister
3 Saudi Arabia has also been supporting terrorists.
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''Well known economist''? Is that supposed to inspire our admiration or contempt?
Actually, even I have heard of Roubini. He says you cant eat gold. I'll spare you the hyperlink.
The short answer is: no, Israel will not blow up something and blame it on Iran. Dismiss it from your mind, it won't happen. Go to bed and sleep well.
The long answer is: What a disgusting orgy of Jew-hatred! You always get the lowest, most impotent and unimpressive kind of Christians reviving old medieval stereotypes in contorted conspiracies and blaming everything including their stubbed toes on the Jeeewwwwwwws.
Actually, Israelis know that Iranian-owned and operated Hezbollah has every inch of their country covered by around 30,000 rockets, so they're in no hurry to start a war. Hezbollah also is itching to get their hands on Syria's chemical weapons stockpile, which they just might manage. (Cheers from the cesspool.)
Most Israelis also know that the only thing that can unite the ever-tribal Arab countries is a war against Israel, so contrary to some of the trash-talking, bottom-feeding slimeballs here, the Israelis are in no hurry to start a war.
As far as the U.S.S. Liberty is concerned, the U.S. paid back the Israelis in full and with interest by not telling them what they knew about the imminent Yom Kippur war. Israel was caught by surprise, was almost wiped out, and lost far more lives than the Liberty did, due to U.S. revenge. So that account is closed, except for the more deranged of the haters.
And if you want to study false-flag operations, cast your mind back to the market place bombing in Srebrenica during the 1999 war in Yugoslavia. The official story was that Serbs bombed innocent Muslims from the air. But the blast pattern later showed upwards force, demonstrating that the Muslims blew their own people up to get world sympathy.
This won't matter to the Blame Israel Firsters, so go ahead and click the down button to show what an ignorant, hate-filled idiot you are.
First, Muslim countries carry out false flag attacks. For example, the well-respected former Indonesian president admits that the government probably had a role in the Bali bombings.
Indeed, virtually every country has carried out false flags. It's the old-school, 5,000-year old way to rally the guys around a new war conquest.
I am not familiar with the specific incident you are referring to in Srebrenica. Would be grateful for citations.
Why would the Indonesian government want to nuke a bunch of Australians in a Bali night club? And where did they get the micro-nuke? It's not logical.
However, if one should notice that the average Oz was not very enthusiatic about joining the Anglo-American Zionist federation in an Iraq invasion, a false flag from that direction makes more sense. The availability of a suitcase nuke also becomes likely via Mossad or the CIA.
Not in a hurry to start a war huh? What fucking planet have you been living on?
go ahead and click the down button to show what an ignorant, hate-filled idiot you are.
Done and done.
I only hate people who start wars they don't have the fucking balls to fight in themselves
So the filthy Isrealis first used the Stuxnet virus to sabatoge their benevolent neighbors nuke program, and now they're forging intel for a nuke program that never existed. Hilarious. Is there any crime that the "Jews" arent responsible for? I hear they orchestrated the Holocaust so they could have a 'false flag' for the creation of Isreal. Oh wait, I forgot, the Holocaust was a hoax.
I can only hope it's your attempt at sarcasm otherwise you should emerge from mum's basement and travel the world. It appears you'll say whatever it takes to bash Jews. I'm not a Jew, none of my family are Jews. I wish you had to a chance to deny Dachau to my Grand dad. He walked out a skeleton wearing striped PJs, he wished it never happened and he wasn't a Jew. It's propoganda/lies that started the mess in the first place, don't perpetuate the cycle. May each generation get smarter and use their words more wisely. You better get some first hand knowledge and stop forming your opinions from what you read on the internet.
Nice Number 1!
Whenever starts a post with "filthy Israelis", I assume they are either paleo-racists or Mossad agents trying to tar and feather a post by alleging anti-semitism ... after THEMSELVES being the ones that make anti-semitic remarks!!!
Nice try ...
George, I don't hate all Jews; just the usurious, lying, thieving, ubermensch-racist, false-flag waving, illuminati, bankster, talmud-thumping variety. If there is a gentile that does all these things, I have an intense dislike for him too.
Just what I got from the tone of these posts. Nice Avoidance of the Rest of the Post!! NICE USE OF CAPITALS! NICE EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!
Haha! You're very clever. Go sell your Shindler's List somewhere else. For the most part, I think white US and European Goy have just about had their fill of your parasitic lot.
Lots of us actually pray the Iranians wipe your asses out. Would be one major headache to humanity, gone in a flash.
Cheers Jew boys. Your days are numbered.
Where's my wallet? I'll bet a jooooooooooo stole it.
Nice Number 1! Way to try to stir up anti-semitism where none is present.
The Israeli government no more represents the views of the Israeli government than the American government represents the views of we the American people...
Where, specifically, is "none present"? I Like your posts GW, but I wont pretend "none is present" with me, these days I just own it.
I bet his last name was Blankfein tooooooo!!!!! The Patron Saint of money thieving in Jewry.....
Number 1 is in 'da house! Way to try to stir up anti-semitism where none is present.
The Israeli government no more represents the views of the Israeli government than the American government represents the views of we the American people...
Well played GW... well played
The Israeli "state" is America. In case you have not figured that out yet...Just a little closer to the crazies in the Middle East. Makes for a formidable hegemonic foreign policy don't you think?
The Jews of today need to fight their own war and learn a lesson. They need to bring back the memory of what it was like to be enslaved again like the Egyptians and Babylonians and Persians did thousands of years ago. I actually heard some fucking dipshit on the radio yesterday yammering about how they are God's chosen people etc... you have all heard the many derivations of this. Anyway, do any of these people read their own fucking literature? The Jews have been slaves to many different empires, how does that make them God's chosen ones? Chosen to be slaves? Chosen to be slaudered in death camps? If God is really on their side, like most evangelicals ferverently believe, I think he is laughing his ass off right now. Hey morons, what if he chose you to be the example; generation after generation of what happens when you break your own laws according to the Torah? When people from within your own faith turn and embrace cultural Marxism and Communism. The holocaust was nothing compared to what previous generations of "Real Jews" endured under slavery. Germany was only able to get hold of one generation. My God, lest we forget about the millions of people that are not of Jewish faith or Biological lineage that have been killed by the same collectivist mindset regardless of who the empire happens to be. This fucking madness needs to end. Nobody hates you because you are a Jew. Jews have lived side by side with Arabs and Christians for a number of years in a number of these so called anti Israel states. They hate you because you think you are special and entitled and according to some in your ranks destined to dominate the world in your own little empire. The rhetoric coming out of some of the Jews is just as bad as some of the rhetoric coming out of the radical Musloids. It's getting to be put up or shut up time. Bibi talks a tough game, but I don't think he has the balls to do what he is threatning to do. If he does, then he will have just commited the world to WW3. And for the record, this time the Jews will get credit for starting the mass Genocide that will ensue. They will not be able to wipe that shit from the record quite as easily.
http://maxkeiser.com/2012/09/28/dr-paul-craig-roberts-assistant-secretar...
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Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Assistant Secretary Of The Treasury For Economic Policy Under Reagan: America, The Next Banana Republic & A Culture of Delusion
Posted on September 28, 2012 by Youri Carma
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http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/09/27/a-culture-delusion/
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"Americans live in a matrix of lies. They seldom encounter a truthful statement.There is no evidence that Americans can any longer tell the difference between the truth and a lie. Americans fell for all of these lies and more: Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and al Qaeda connections. Saddam Hussein’s troops seized Kuwaiti babies from incubators and threw them on the floor. Gaddafi fed his troops Viagra to help them rape Libyan women. Iran has a nuclear weapons program. Change–yes we can! The US is “the indispensable country.” America is broke because of food stamps and Social Security, not because of wars, bankster bailouts, and a failing economy. Russia is America’s number one enemy. China is America’s number one enemy. Iran is a terrorist state. Jobs offshoring is free trade and good for the US economy. Israel is America’s most loyal ally. The US missile shield surrounding Russia is not directed at Russia. The South China sea is an area of US national interest. Financial markets are self-regulating.
The list is endless. Lies dominate every policy discussion, every political decision. The most successful people in America are liars.
" pcr
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Americans fell for all of these lies and more: ... Iran has a nuclear weapons program.
Neither the United States nor Israel claims that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. The difficult question being considered is at what point do we make certain that Iran cannot develop a nuclear weapons program?
This question is being considered - not out of fear that Iran will bomb Israel (posters here state many good reasons why that likely wouldn't happen) - but out of concern that an arms race will ignite in the ME if Iran is allowed to develop a nuclear weapons program. If that arms race happens, it may well result in the use of nuclear weapons.
Calmer heads than those on this blog are responsibly weighing the pros and cons of allowing things to progress, or stopping that progression now. One can make a case for either side of the argument. But a decision will be made. It will be an imperfect decision, made in the absence of complete and perfect information. That's what grown-ups have to deal with on a daily basis.
@"Neither the United States nor Israel claims that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. " ....
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"Netanyahu: Israel, U.S. coordinated 'on highest levels' on Iran nuclear program
Speaking with Israeli media in New York after his UN speech, Netanyahu says his address was meant to clarify to the world that 'nothing has changed' in Iran's race toward a nuclear weapon.
By Natasha Mozgovaya and Haaretz | Sep.29, 2012"
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-israel-u-s-coord...
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i am not soliciting an explanation as to how this
does not contradict your opening statement. i could
construct the argument myself but it would be so
much hay to cover the needle of truth which is
obvious and at least strongly implied, so strongly
so that a denial of the implication would reveal
the deceptive intent present in the choice of words.
why should americans hate Iran.
let's see
there is no iranian FED - destroing economy, money, pesions and lives. - 100% jews
there is no iranian bankers stealin form americans - 100% jews
there is no iranian head of HLS blasting americans with radiation at airpors
there is no iranians in DOJ selling guns to gangsters, but plenty of jews.
there is no iranian lobby blowing billions of americans tax money to iran - 100% jews to israel
they say iran did 911, but no - it was 100% jews too!
the majority of jews are not zionists.
like the majority os muslims are not radical.
the majority of christians are not nut cases as the ones in ireland back in the 80is.
agreed, but I would add the majority of jews are not real Jews.
Ashkenazi Jews make up approximately 80 percent of Jews worldwide.
Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. Retrieved 2006-05-24.
Ashkenazs are the ones who created Zionism. They are also the majority of those in the State of Israel.
Ashkenazi descend from Noah to Japheth to Gomer to Ashkenaz.
Real Jews descend from Noah to Shem ... 9 generations ... to Abraham
Abraham is the Father of the Hebrew Nation (the Real Jews) aka: twelve tribes
most zionist are also atheist.
point is zionist do not have any right, legal or Biblical, to 'that' land
thay are nothing but a bunch of psycos causing havoc and puting tha blame on another race/religion
Real Jews descended from the tribe of Judah. That leaves 11 other tribes to whom was promised the land of Israel. Real Israelites descended from Abraham, of whom, 1 tribe was Judah = Jews.
that's funny , i think i read about that speach given at the u.n. on jewish high holiday.
And after you read his speech you have what to say?
There is no reason for Israel to involve the USA. Israel should conceal a nuke on a freight train that goes into the mountain tunnels that serve as entrances to Iran's nuclear weapons facilities. They should conceal the nuke in a railcar of uranium ore. When the nuke blows inside the mountain, Israel should proclaim that Iran did a nuclear test, and then proceed to hit Iran with 100 thermonuclear warheads, destroying Iran forever. Perhaps in 1000 years, archeologists will figure out what really happened.
That's a little harsh
yeah...you just went Full Retard.
Never go full retard.
Don't tell that to AnAnonymous --- his open-ended cruise on the USS Full Retard is already well under way, as he happily sails the seas of citizenism while blobbing-up at the all-night crazy buffet.
Sweet, let's parachute you into Tehran today and you can start your covert actions right away you evil little ginger!!!
My sources in Lebonon say Israel should be concerned about a possible attack from Iran -that Iran has been sending over highly trained commandos to both Syria and Lebonan to work and be integrated with Assad and Hezbollah-says their battle cry is "Next year Jerusalem!" I think Iran would kick Israel's ass-as long as we stay out of it. Come on Bibi- bring it on -you're all talk you yellow bellied coward -you want us to fight your wars - you pissant little turd.
Nope. If Israel was close to failing, they will nuke everybody. Think subs with nukes.
I doubt it - there are a lot of sensible people in Israel-not all are likudnik crazies zionist Neocreeps- Netanyahu is a figurehead-theyll take him out before they let the world get blown up. The Banksters arent ready for Armeggedon - a bunch of stupid christian zionists here in Texas may be-but not the Banksters.
israel, iran , u.s. ---you think any of these countries are different?
they are all ruled over in large part by an institutional military. the military does what it wants , particularly so during 'emergency' conditions .
the u.s. military and israeli military and iranian military will all do as they please. civilians be damned.
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a fucking bully at every playground...
The fact that there are so many that refuse to believe that Israel would carry out such a false flag, despite the overwhelming historic evidence of Israeli false flag attacks, is what I find most alarming about Americans. Is it naivete or plain old stupidity?
Mixture of propaganda and willful ignorance.
Fear. You left out fear.
What the hell can you believe anymore? Certainly not anything out of MSM.
Don't tell we are going to have to think for ourselves. OMG I'm getting a
headache. Someone , please tell me what to think. Oh, that's right, Zorba
is Greek. We invented logical thinking.(or at least perfected it). Hmmm....
Let me ponder the situation...Hmmm.... Holy Crap...We're screwed, the
populace is brain-dead. Hey why not kill Bin Laden again. By now people
will have forgotten and that's always good for rally-round-the-flag moment.
jews are desperate and will do something stupid
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/25/press-tv-netanyahu-the-desperate-despot/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/24/netanyahu-cant-stop-playing-the-victim-card/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/24/israels-netanyahu-and-the-jewish-neocons-in-america-vow-revenge/
who are Jews???
One Jew was this rebel Jesus guy from Nazareth, in the times of the Roman Empire
They murdered him
He was cool, he favoured the vulnerable, the 'least of the brethren'
let's face it...Mel Gibson was right.