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Will Israel Blow Up Something and Falsely Blame It On Iran?
According to U.S. officials, Israel is training and supporting Iranian terrorists who are trying to topple the Iranian government. Those Israeli-funded terrorists have faked documents to falsely indicate that Iran is building a nuclear bomb. 1
Israel has admitted to previous use of false flag attacks to justify war against Middle Eastern nations.
For example, Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this).
Numerous high-level government officials have warned that a false flag may be launched against Iran to start a war: 2
- Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski (who helped to create Al Qaeda to fight the soviets in Afghanistan) told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation.
- Daniel Ellsberg – the famous Pentagon Papers whistleblower – said “if there is another terror attack, “I believe the president will get what he wants”, which includes war with Iran
- Robert David Steele – a 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer – says that elements within the U.S. government are trying to carry out a false flag operation and blame it on Iran
- Former high-level CIA officer Michael Scheuer – who was the head of the CIA unit tasked with capturing Bin Laden – says that Israel or Saudi Arabia could be setting up Iran as a way to foment war 3
- Ron Paul has warned of a “Gulf of Tonkin type incident” in Iran
- Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh says many ideas have been proposed for provoking a war, including building boats that look like Iranian boats, and then putting Navy Seals on them to “start a shoot-up”
- The highly influential Brookings Institution wrote a report in 2009 called “Which Path to Persia?” which states (pages 84-85):
It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.)
- A former member of the British Parliament stated that “there is a very real danger” that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran
- A number of very high-level former intelligence officers – including several that personally briefed presidents every day on matters of national security – stated that better communications between the U.S. and Iran were needed to “reduce the danger of … covert, false-flag attack”
One of America’s top constitutional and military law experts – Jonathan Turley – writes today:
Many critics have argued that there is a concerted effort to push the United States into a war with Iran by supporters of Israel. Patrick Clawson, director of research for the highly influential pro-Israel Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) think tank, seemed intent to prove those rumors true this week in comments as a luncheon on “How to Build US-Israeli Coordination on Preventing an Iranian Nuclear Breakout.” Clawson casually discusses how to create a false flag operation to push the U.S. into war to overcome any reluctance by the public. We have been discussing how many leaders like Senator Joe Lieberman had begun to use the same rhetoric that led to the last two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how the suggest timing of an attack has been tied to the presidential election.
In his remarks, Clawson helpfully lists a series of historical events used to push the country into war like the Gulf of Tonkin incident that gave us the Vietnam War. Clawson expressed his frustration in acknowledging that it is “[v]ery hard for me to see how the United States President can get us to war with Iran.” However, there is hope. Clawson explains that the “traditional way” to get the country into a war is through false flags or manufactured incidents where Americans are killed. Thus, he observes, “we are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians, we could get nastier about it. So, if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.”
The fact that one of the leading analysis for the WINEP would feel comfortable in making such comments is itself quite chilling. It indicates that such discussions have become sufficiently regular that it has creeped into public discussion. It is a measure of the secret pressure building to push this country into a third major war despite our crippling economic conditions and losses in military personnel. The assumption in Washington is that neither Romney nor Obama could oppose such a war. Even if Obama does not publicly support Israel, the assumption is that political allies of Israel in Washington can guarantee that we would offer extensive military loans and intelligence. Even if there is a delay in such military loans and support, the assumption is that Israel can go to war with the understanding that the United States will cover a significant portion of the costs. Moreover, in his remarkably candid remarks, Clawson shows how the U.S. can easily be forced into direct combat by pushing Iran to simply kill some Americans or sink a few of our ships. Then members would be clamoring for revenge. Notably, the Israelis have been ratcheting up the war rhetoric in pushing Iran, which predictably has now reserved the right to engage in a preemptive strike not just against Israeli but U.S. interests. We would then, again, find ourselves in a war without any public debate or collective decision.
While Clawson adds a passing caveat that he is not advocating such an approach, his remarks are clearly designed to show how the group can get the United States into a war for Israel if only we can get Iran to kill some of our citizens or soldiers. Those people are of course expendable props in Clawson’s realpolitik.
By the way, Clawson has been enlisted to give his insightful analysis at the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. He is also a member of the National Defense University’s Institute for National Strategic Studies. The World Bank connection is particularly interesting given the history with Paul Wolfowitz who pushed the U.S. into two disastrous wars in the Bush Administration and was rewarded with being made the head of the World Bank.
It is the callous disconnect that is most chilling in these remarks. Thousands of U.S. soldiers have died or have been crippled for life in these wars that have left the country near bankruptcy (and increasingly hostile “allies” in Afghanistan and Iraq). Those casualties and costs, however, appear immaterial in the discussion of supporting Israel in a war against Iran.
1 Top American and Israeli military and intelligence officials actually say that:
- Even if Iran did build a nuclear bomb – it would not be that dangerous, because Israel and America have so many more nukes. And see this
- Attacking Iran would only speed up its development of nuclear weapons, empower its hardliners, and undermine the chance for democratic reform
2 False flag attacks have been carried out against Iran in the past. For example, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister
3 Saudi Arabia has also been supporting terrorists.
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1000 + for well spoken dialog(with respect) wow, there is hope for higher forms of intelligence.
i THANK BOTH OF YOU...
No GW, it is you that are over reacting. This is one of the most ridiculous posts on ZH I have ever seen to an otherwise very credible website.
Gee it seems that MOST people here agree with you.
/sarc
Judging by all the junks, I would say that the warmongering chickenhawks are out in force tonight.
Future battle cry: "Remember the Enterprise!"
Or Remember the Liberty (an attempted false-flag gone wrong -- attempted by the US and Israel jointly which killed 34 US sailors and wounded many more)
The State of Isreal is a scourge on humanity. Frankly, I wish Russia or China would just give Iran some nukes, announce it to the world, and (maybe) render the whole thing moot.
Nuclear war is not a solution to every problem. Go back to your wife which is a horse to which you'll sodomize.
Then kindly move along to another thread.
Great graphics Netty.....those are the kind of graphics most americans like and barely understan......
George - thanks again for courageously and relentlesly supporting World Peace.
I understood that to be the plan all along. It's their 'signature.'
in case you have not already seen this......and on PBS of all things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
Wow, you need serious help. I am a structural engineer. And full well understand what happened and why the buildings fell. It totally changed our design standards. Get a grip...
Please post the "structural engineer" equation showing what caused the buildings to fall.
If you are a structural engineer ,which I doubt.You are surely one from the
last couple of generations.Those recent graduates are the primary reason I left the
profession,age was a minor one.
You are probably incapable of designing a tepee without your computer,AND
you are certainly incapable of actually building said tepee, even with your computer.
Are you a "structural engineer" in the same firm where George Costanza is an "Architect"?
Probably just an importer/exporter with VanDeLay Industries.
...or an "art student"...
I heard H. E. Pennypacker is hiring.
Don't bother changing any standards. They have worked in the past and will continue to in the future...unless of course it's built to sustain multiple nano thermite shape chargers.
If you really are a structural engineer, i'd recommend you to my competition.
Ok, lay it out. Otherwise your post is typical disinfo garbage. I can't wait to hear how a partial fire collapsed building 7 at free fall speed into its own foot print.
#7 was really ugly ... maybe its structure was also poorly designed.
Am giving +1 coz it has to be sarc
answer - yes they probably will
Remember the Weapons of Mass Destruction we found in Iraq.
Good Grief. Israel could have wiped out all of her nighbors before now, and has never done so. Israel isn't the problem, radical Islam is the problem. It's a fucking cancer, like socialism (its first cousin).
And where have they got their 200 to 400 nuclear armed ICBM aimed at throughout the planet? Has anyone bothered to try and find out, or has every government on the planet now been blackmailed into submission? The Samson Option should have us very worried about the psychopaths like Bibi running such a country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
+1 Absolutely correct....
At Bagehot99:
Idiot Mossad troll. How's your "art studies" coming along?
Idiot because the Arab socialists were guys like Nasser, Assad, Quaddafi, Arafat, and Saddam Hussien. Yeah, the Baathists, secular Arabs who belived in a quasi- socialist pan Arab political vision. Oh, yeah... the moderate, secular Arabs, the ones the super-intelligent Jews got rid of.
Idiot because the salafists (wahabs), want sharia law and a return to a caliphate of all Islam, a theocratic system. The last thing they want is a socialist system. Idiot because the first foes of the salafist movement are the Shiites. As long as there is a grand schism in islam, there will be no union, no caliphate. This makes the Israelis and the salafists buds... for now. The only thing a Salafist hates more than a Shiite is a fucking Jew. I heard Danny Ayalon on the Terry-I-am-a-Jew-Bitch-Sayannim-Gross show say , and I quote- "if we don't stop Iran from geting a bomb, they will provide shelter for Al Quaeda."
The Jews are doomed. Either Danny-boy is lying, and knows that The Iranians hate Al Quaeda because AQ is Salafist, (and also because AQ is a creation of the CIA and the Mossad, with some help thrown in from the Saudis) and Iran is Shiite. Maybe he knows that all he gets to choose is which branch of Islam to promote, and that he basically is choosing his executioner. Maybe, or maybe Danny is fucking stupid, and doesn't know salafists from shine-ola, and that kind of stupidity will always lose. Either way, israel is fucked.
So, you are an idiot. Normal human beings aren;t this stupid, this kind of idiocy is unnatural, so you must have consumed the Mossad kool-aid. That's why you are Mossad.
You are a troll because you make such idiotic comments on ZH. You aren't a very smart troll though. Try trolling the RNC website.
Interesting to consider the close historical bond between extremist versions of Islam, fuelled worldwide by the Saudi Wahhabi teachings, and the extremist Jews of Zionism and Israel.
Extremist versions of their respective religions, both installed and supported in the Middle East by British-US intelligence organisations, to help create the global mess we have today.
The ruling family of Saudi Arabia was installed in power by the British after the Ottoman Empire collapse in World War I. The British pushed out the Hashemites who had held sway over the Muslim holy cities for centuries (exiling part of the family to become monarchs of what is now Jordan).
The Saudi rulers, propped up to rule Arabia and spread an extremist version of Islam, as part of their 'duties' helped set up the Zionist regime in Israel, back when Zionists were still a minority scorned by most Jews:
« In 1919, at the Paris Conference ending World War I ... The Arab delegation ... was led by Faisal Saeed al-Ismaily ... a Bedouin Sunni steeped in the orthodox version of the religion ... the third son of the Grand Sharif of Mecca.
On Jan. 3, 1919, Faisal and Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, signed the Faisal-Weizmann Agreement for Arab-Jewish cooperation, in which Faisal conditionally accepted the Balfour Declaration, based on the fulfillment of British wartime promises of development of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, on which subject he made the following statement:
"We Arabs ... look with the deepest sympathy on the Zionist movement. Our deputation here in Paris is fully acquainted with the proposals submitted yesterday by the Zionist Organization to the Peace Conference, and we regard them as moderate and proper. We will do our best, in so far as we are concerned, to help them through; we will wish the Jews a most hearty welcome home.
Even today, the House of Saud's allegiance to the Zionists who have massively displaced the Palestinian population, remains intact. ... »
The House of Saud:
British-Programmed Killer of Muslims
by Ramtanu Maitra
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2012/3938house_saud.html
"The ruling family of Saudi Arabia was installed in power by the British after the Ottoman Empire collapse in World War I."
I'm sorry but that is not correct. The British failed to install their allies from the war against the Ottomans, the Hashemites (the family of the Faisal that you mentioned), in Mecca and instead had to "give" them the Kingdoms of TransJordan and Iraq. Feisal got Iraq and was soon murdered.
The Hejaz was united with Nedjd and became the Kingdom of the House of Sa'ud, which then added the 'Asir province bordering Yemen.
Ibn Sa'ud got the Arabian peninsula in spite of British support of his rivals .
No, you're the fucking problem.
Gulf of Tonkin - another fake incident by Democrats. So a false flag seems well within their purview. Its a fave since Pearl Harbor.
By deception thou shalt make war
False flag is really, really old for the USA
Battleship Maine blown up, blamed on Spain, to start the 1898 Spanish-American war and US seizure of Spain's colonies ... leading to brutal American massacre of Filipinos and other human rights crimes
'Remember the Maine!' the Americans said as they stole territory and murdered
A disgusted great American writer, Mark Twain, said the US flag should be changed to the Jolly Roger, as the USA was nothing more than a pirate nation in its foreign policy
If anyone remembers the Maine at all, they associate it with Fredrick Remington's painting of Teddy R. and the assault on San Juan Hill. But a direct result of the Maine's planned destruction was the US takeover of the Philippines. This precipitated a guerilla war, which was brutallly put down by the US military. Entire villages were massacred, men women and children, by US troops. It is estimated that a million Filippinos were slaughtered by US forces during this period, 1899-1903.
The battles with the fierce Moro tribesmen led the Army to adopt John Brownings excellent .45 pistol as the standard issue sidearm. They were hyped up and unstoppable with the .38s the soldiers carried then.
http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/1911care.htm
Remember the USS Liberty!
Yes, NEVER FORGET IT!
Man I love seeing the USS Liberty popping up like this: it's been a loooooong time and a long, painful struggle for the survivors. A profoundly shameful episode in US military history.
“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
-Henry Kissinger
NWC - might want to include a link to that quote...
I'm no fan of HK (to say the least) but that quote originated in a book by one "Monica JS", who was sued and admitted it court she made it up. Just sayin'
http://akio.tumblr.com/post/15761244430/internet-meme-falsified-quote-mi...
But I have no doubt HK has probably said it or words to the effect many times, and he has certainly acted as if he feels that way.
Well he's not wrong. Dictatorships and BS wars can't happen without brainless morons who sign up in the military.
...says the guy with no military experience.
Remember 9/11.
Remember where you parked.
Remember the Alamo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cHLoHou8uY
Remember the Maine! (First modern-era false flag.)
"Every war starts with a false flag."
-- Jesse Ventura
The war on Terror started with the false flag attack of 9/11. So also the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which have created more than a million deaths and cost the US about $4 trillion. But someone made a lot of money from the $400 a gallon gasoline in Afghanistan.
If you think that 9/11 was not false-flag, please spend 10 minutes reading Dayid Ray Griffin.