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White House Manipulating the Jobs Data? Unpossible...

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ABC is reporting that the White House has told defense contractors to not issue layoff notices until after the election. They even went as far as to offer to pay for any legal fees associated with not giving employees proper notice - pardon, you will pay for any legal fees associated with the administration keeping the unemployment rate artificially low.

Two things:

1. Why aren't we hearing more about this from the mainstream media (rhetorical)?

2. Still think the jobs report yesterday was real?

 

We don't think so

 

 

Jack Welch clearly doesn't think so

 

And for fun, here is Jack defending his comment to the ever articulate Chris Matthews

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Mon, 10/08/2012 - 12:15 | 2868263 DoubleTap
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But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of Plenty's figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the material that you were dealing with had no connexion with anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their rectified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty's forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at one-hundred-and-forty-five million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than one-hundred-and-forty-five millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot. And so it was with every class of recorded fact, great or small. Everything faded away into a shadow-world in which, finally, even the date of the year had become uncertain.

 

Wake Up It's 1984


Mon, 10/08/2012 - 10:31 | 2867528 “Rebellion to t...
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The Jews in Chicago have a lovelust for wealth and power like no one can imagine.  These thieving, corrupted, amoral pieces of shit will stop at nothing in order to achieve their agenda; i.e...ENRICHING AND EMPOWERING THEMSELVES AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE!

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 09:44 | 2867398 orangedrinkandchips
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Jack sounds like he on deaths doorstep....BUT.....

 

cmon!

 

the numbers are obvously as false as a twinkie

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 08:52 | 2867242 Money 4 Nothing
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Check, Government shadow stats dot com for the truth.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 08:31 | 2867198 tedstr
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Come on people.  You're not connecting the dots.  This has the fine hand of little Jeffrey Immelt all over it.  Remember him?  Obozo's "jobs czar".  Major defense contractor GE CEO, and hand picked bud of .......wait for it........Jack Welch!  Guess where he got this idea that has no evidence?  Hun?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 08:31 | 2867197 tedstr
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Come on people.  You're not connecting the dots.  This has the fine hand of little Jeffrey Immelt all over it.  Remember him?  Obozo's "jobs czar".  Major defense contractor GE CEO, and hand picked bud of .......wait for it........Jack Welch!  Guess where he got this idea that has no evidence?  Hun?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 06:07 | 2867049 poldark
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I certainly think the Chicago guys flogged the numbers.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 23:25 | 2866690 muppet_master
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odummer has a CAROTID hold

on EVERY gov agency..OF COURSE he coerced the employees at the labor dept to MASSAGE the nos....

order:  massage the numbers or else your pension will be gone !!

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 21:31 | 2866417 ScotlandTheBrave
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Now we know the story behind all of those free Obamaphones.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 20:33 | 2866283 mendolover
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JW - "I don't want to put words in the mouth of what I said last night."  What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Puddin' face Matthews has the nerve to call someone a screwball?  haha!

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 19:24 | 2866181 ItsDanger
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Isnt there a new law now that a company has to give 60 day notice to workers if there is to be a mass layoff?  Obama copying union rules?  How do you define mass anyways?  Good luck enforcing that for a financially distressed company. 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 22:12 | 2866491 Hal n back
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Obummer-when he was Senator proposed making it a 90 day advance notice to give folks more time to find a new gig. Now he wnats to ignore it.

 

Go figure.

 

 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:32 | 2865776 ncdirtdigger
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How does the NFP report compare to the tax revenue for the month? If employment went up, should not tax revenue also increase?  Surely one of you folks have access to such data. Help a poor unemployed white christian male out here.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 19:26 | 2866183 ItsDanger
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There is some relation there but you need further breakdown of the tax revenue collected by the federal gov't. 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 21:21 | 2866381 ncdirtdigger
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More specifically, should there not be a correlation between FICA tax withholdings reported for Sept. that supports the NFP print? 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 15:25 | 2865386 LiesAreTheOnlyTruth
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Uncredible.  Chicago thugs know how to win elections, that's for sure.

Suprised they have not tried to sue Romney for challenging our savior ... something, taxes, fraud, something they should be able to get him on ... a couple days before the election perhaps they put Romney in jail?  That is the only thing left for them now :)

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:29 | 2865764 therearetoomany...
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Now, they won't sue him but they'll get all the media (including fox) to say what a great number for Obama to come up with and all the media (minus fox) have now come out and are calling Romney a liar.  As if this fucking illegitimate marxist bastard in the white house never lies.   It's all he knows how to do.

 

"Oooh, I'm a foreigner, give me a free ivy league education...oooh, I was born in hawaii though I don't have my birth certificate.....oooh, I hate Reverend Wright, I went to church there but never listened to him...Ooooh, Reverend Wright is my good friend and counsel...." 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:14 | 2865361 are we there yet
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The non farm payrolls governement stats include the zombie dead that have to be employed to vote in november for our favorite Kenian.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:39 | 2865187 Quinvarius
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Mathews leads by telling Welch he should be embarrassed to Tweet and closes with his Tweeting ethics when he Tweets.  Mathews obviously is looking for some kind of greater truth.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:32 | 2865771 therearetoomany...
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Matthews is a fishy twat.

He needs a good kick in the teeth.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:56 | 2865100 Rentenmark
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The unemployed know they are not working regarless of what Chris Matthews and the rest of the Obama loving MSM say.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:54 | 2865097 Curt W
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When a law abiding man must fear his own government, he should take steps to replace that government.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 11:57 | 2864686 onlooker
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Trickle down economy from the Government. Flooding of lies from the Government. Which produces more results?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:35 | 2864763 GeezerGeek
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Now we have yet another explanation of Obama's poor debate performance: he knew the job numbers fix was in and smugly thought he could overshadow his performance with job creation boasts.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 11:33 | 2864640 shovelhead
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Matthews ain't getting the thrill up his leg from Jack.

The guy should wear a clown nose on air.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 10:39 | 2864592 LucasATX
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I am not a fan of Matthews or Welch. But it sounds to me like Matthews is almost threatening Welch as if there is going to be some sort of price to pay for his questioning government information. It used to be the media's job to question EVERYTHING but now it seems that it has become media's job to defend everything. Sad state of affairs. 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 09:56 | 2864554 Vince Clortho
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Operation Mockingbird for over 60 years.  The Main Stream Media lost its legitimacy and honor ages ago.

Chris Matthews, CNBC, flick the channel to a random station on your TV.  It's all the same BS spewed from different talking heads.  

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 09:08 | 2864508 GMadScientist
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I thought this was tradition ever since Reagan's "the military count towards unemployment" switcheroo.

 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 09:03 | 2864500 Anglo Hondo
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Guys, stop worrying about the BLS figures.  They will all, as normal, be 'adjusted' again next month.

Now, what date is that?  November 7.  It really is a miracle.

 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 08:59 | 2864493 GMadScientist
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It could have come back 10% and con(trarians) would claim it was manipulated lower because of the election.

Only pinheads and propagandists pay any attention to this meaningless stat anyway.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 09:24 | 2864526 francis_the_won...
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Sadly, pinheads and propagandists get to vote.........and wield Obamaphones.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 06:11 | 2864169 falak pema
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the biggest farce is the CPI indexes in all first world countries; our national inflation rates are all computed at around 2%.

Now that is a lie that has been perpetrated since twenty plus years! 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 04:30 | 2864131 Gringo Viejo
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Matthews uses his tongue prettier than a $20 whore.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:49 | 2865838 sosoome
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How do you know?

Any $20 whore I ever knew, I'd never let her tongue near me.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 19:39 | 2866199 BidnessMan
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$20 will get you some very nice talent some places.  Not in the US - at least today anyway. 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 00:17 | 2864014 disabledvet
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there has to be a Squid...i mean Quid Pro Quo here...and the answer of course will be...unsurprisingly...that Defense spending will not be touched post election. Move along...nothing to see here! Having said that is there a massive expansion of the war effort underway? I for the upteenth time say "yes." how this obvious reality will manifest itself however is hard to gauge. "somebody has to get thrown overboard"...and i firmly believe that the one person who has earned his position more than any other in the Administration is Secretary of Defense Panetta. "All roads lead to Damascus...and the Defense Department." PERIOD. A "Date with Destiny" has been set...i expect us all to arrive there shortly whether we want to be there or not! The only question is "who will be President when it occurs"? to me it's a total toss up right now...make no mistake tho...this country is moving HARD right...in many ways has done so already just from my view of "what is left...of the left?" and due to the mass disenfranchisement which has created in my view a highly unstable political environment. we shall see of course...but my view is that "it" is just a batter of weeks. if that actually....

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 23:52 | 2863977 Muppet
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blah blah blah... story is dead... too late to refute the BLS now.   Time was last week.   Dont bother now.  Missed opportunity.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 21:56 | 2864046 LouisDega
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Yes, But a post that ends in a question mark always gets da Clicks. Got to keep the topic alive... Clicks=$$$$

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 23:50 | 2863975 GoldForCash
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THE COMING ELECTION IS A JOKE AND WILL NEVER OCCUR. MARSHAL LAW WILL BE CALLED FOR AND OBAMA WILL REMAIN DICTATOR FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE. 

 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 11:40 | 2864654 lakecity55
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I posted on another story a slip (??) from OBlowme last week where he said the American People would not get in his way of "fixing America."

The commie/muslo alliance has come too far to back down now. I hope you are incorrect, but I fear the worst.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 06:40 | 2864180 fijisailor
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The dictatorship will remain regardless of who wins the election.  You actually think a Romney win would solve anything?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 04:44 | 2864139 Middle_Finger_Market
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We are going to war and only 10% (if that) of the population survives. I mean it is no longer a joke how far down the line we are and it will end in a huge conflict and many many dead. That is the reality of the sitiuation. Time to face the music bitchez and die fighting for your own freedom you now realise you never had. 

 

(DRUM, DRUM, DRUM...beat the FUCKING DRUMS!)

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 23:46 | 2863971 GoldForCash
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same crap from the mob..............

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 22:47 | 2863904 Tum
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There are Pages on Facebook which have far higher subscribers than MSNBC and Chris Mathews have viewers on any given night. I'm not worried about what he says.

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 22:37 | 2863896 worbsid
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My uncle was a Republican in Chicago until the day he died.  Now he votes Democratic and often.  :-) 

If it wasn't manipulated, it sure was a one in a million lucky hit for O. 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 07:05 | 2864197 BattlegroundEur...
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It happens no matter what side you THINK you are on.

Left-Right Paradigm.

But you Sheeple soak it up and and cannot see you are being shafted by both sides.

Maybe you sheep deserve whats coming to you?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 07:04 | 2864196 BattlegroundEur...
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It happens no matter what side you THINK you are on.

Left-Right Paradigm.

But you Sheeple soak it up and and connot see you are being shafted by both sides.

Maybe you sheep deserve whats coming to you?

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 23:47 | 2863972 GoldForCash
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Great comment...and probally true.........

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 22:05 | 2863846 Bear
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They will certainly have more 'flexibility' after the election

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 21:37 | 2863806 JohnKozac
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Unemployment is high for a number of reasons including unemployment benefits may be too high. I tried to hire some people last month for lawn service and I was astounded at the excuses..."too far"..."too busy"....and the best one was, "I'm making too much from unemployment. Why should I work?"

 

I know there's a recession but the problem is deeper then merely economic.

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