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New York Times Concedes that It Is Unknown Whether Syrian Artillery Came from Rebels or Government

The Turkish-Syrian Skirmish Is Being Taken Out Of Context

The mainstream American press has trumpeted for days the claim that Turkey is “retaliating” for artillery fire coming from Syrian government forces on the Syrian-Turkish border near the town of Akçakale.

Because Turkey is a member of Nato (for 50 years), a declaration of war by Turkey could well drag Nato into a conflict.

The Turkish people don’t like the turn of events … thousands of Turks  took to the the streets in Ankara and Istanbul after Turkey’s parliament approved military operations against targets in Syria following the mortar attacks.

The New York Times concedes:

It was unknown whether the mortar shells were fired by Syrian government forces or rebels fighting to topple the government of President Bashar al-Assad. The Turkish response seemed to assume that the Syrian government was responsible.

Many alternative news sources claim that this was a “false flag” attack to justify a Turkish attack on Syria.

Indeed, before the mortar attacks, Russia warned of such a possibility:

Russia expresses its concerns about the tense situation on the Syria-Turkey border and warns both to avoid tension.

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Russia has urged restraint between Turkeyand Syria so as to avoid possible cross-border conflicts while telling world powers that they should not seek ways to intervene in the Syrian war.

Both Syrian and Turkish authorities “should exercise maximum restraint” since radical members of the Syrian opposition might deliberately provoke cross-border conflicts for their own benefits, Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said yesterday. The diplomat said Moscow has been worrying about the situation on the Syria-Turkey border… Turkey has sent a diplomatic note to Syria over the mortar bomb that hit the southeastern province of Akçakale on Sept. 28.

And false flag attacks have been planned to bring about regime change in Syria for 50 years (and the neocons planned regime change in Syria 20 years ago.)

But another possibility is that Syrian army forces were shooting at Syrian rebels near Akçakale and accidentally fired mortar a tad bit too far … across the border into Turkey.

Indeed, Turkey has been sheltering and training Syrian rebels,  and Akçakale is a key Syrian rebel supply route, which has seen numerous skirmishes in recent months.

Turkey has also been testing Syrian air defenses by sending its fighter jets into Syrian air space, and has threatened intervention for quite a while.

Moreover, in March, the Brookings Institute called for a multi-front assault on Syria to effect regime change, which includes attacks from Turkey. In its report entitled “Assessing Options for Regime Change”, Brookings argued (page 6):

In addition, Israel’s intelligence services have a strong knowledge of Syria, as well as assets within the Syrian regime that could be used to subvert the regime’s power base and press for Asad’s removal. Israel could posture forces on or near the Golan Heights and, in so doing, might divert regime forces from suppressing the opposition. This posture may conjure fears in the Asad regime of a multi-front war, particularly if Turkey is willing to do the same on its border and if the Syrian opposition is being fed a steady diet of arms and training. Such a mobilization could perhaps persuade Syria’s military leadership to oust Asad in order to preserve itself. Advocates argue this additional pressure could tip the balance against Asad inside Syria, if other forces were aligned properly.

The bottom line is that we don’t know whether the recent mortar attacks near Akçakale were a false flag attack by the Syrian rebels to justify war by Turkey against the Asad regime or an attempt by Syrian government troops to hit rebels gone too far, and accidentally ending up in Turkey.

One thing is for sure: this incident can’t be taken in a vacuum, especially since a large proportion of the rebel fighters are Al Qaeda.

Ron Paul: “What I Fear The Most Is a False Flag – Something Happening Where One of Our Ships Goes Down, Or … a Plane Goes Down, And of Course It HAD To Be The Iranians, You Know, For Sure, For Certain”

Will a False Flag Be the Start of An Iran War?

Ron Paul said recently (at 28:00):

What I fear the most is a false flag – something happening where one of our ships goes down, or there’s a plane that goes down, and of course it HAD to be the Iranians, you know, for sure, for certain.

(Paul previously warned of a “Gulf of Tonkin type incident” in Iran.)

Paul joins numerous other high-level government officials who have warned that a false flag may be launched against Iran to start a war:

• Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski (who helped to create Al Qaeda to fight the soviets in Afghanistan) told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation.

• Daniel Ellsberg – the famous Pentagon Papers whistleblower – said “if there is another terror attack, “I believe the president will get what he wants”, which includes war with Iran

• Robert David Steele – a 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer – says that elements within the U.S. government are trying to carry out a false flag operation and blame it on Iran

• Former high-level CIA officer Michael Scheuer – who was the head of the CIA unit tasked with capturing Bin Laden – says that Israel or Saudi Arabia could be setting up Iran as a way to foment war ³

• Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh says many ideas have been proposed for provoking a war, including building boats that look like Iranian boats, and then putting Navy Seals on them to “start a shoot-up”

• The highly influential Brookings Institution wrote a report in 2009 called “Which Path to Persia?” which states (pages 84-85):

It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.)

• A member of the British Parliament stated that “there is a very real danger” that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran

• A number of very high-level former intelligence officers – including several that personally briefed presidents every day on matters of national security – stated that better communications between the U.S. and Iran were needed to “reduce the danger of … covert, false-flag attack”

• One of America’s top constitutional and military law experts – Jonathan Turley – writes:

Many critics have argued that there is a concerted effort to push the United States into a war with Iran by supporters of Israel. Patrick Clawson, director of research for the highly influential pro-Israel Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) think tank, seemed intent to prove those rumors true this week in comments as a luncheon on “How to Build US-Israeli Coordination on Preventing an Iranian Nuclear Breakout.” Clawson casually discusses how to create a false flag operation to push the U.S. into war to overcome any reluctance by the public. We have been discussing how many leaders like Senator Joe Lieberman had begun to use the same rhetoric that led to the last two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how the suggest timing of an attack has been tied to the presidential election.

In his remarks, Clawson helpfully lists a series of historical events used to push the country into war like the Gulf of Tonkin incident that gave us the Vietnam War. Clawson expressed his frustration in acknowledging that it is “[v]ery hard for me to see how the United States President can get us to war with Iran.” However, there is hope. Clawson explains that the “traditional way” to get the country into a war is through false flags or manufactured incidents where Americans are killed. Thus, he observes, “we are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians, we could get nastier about it. So, if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.”

The fact that one of the leading analysis for the WINEP would feel comfortable in making such comments is itself quite chilling. It indicates that such discussions have become sufficiently regular that it has creeped into public discussion. It is a measure of the secret pressure building to push this country into a third major war despite our crippling economic conditions and losses in military personnel. The assumption in Washington is that neither Romney nor Obama could oppose such a war. Even if Obama does not publicly support Israel, the assumption is that political allies of Israel in Washington can guarantee that we would offer extensive military loans and intelligence. Even if there is a delay in such military loans and support, the assumption is that Israel can go to war with the understanding that the United States will cover a significant portion of the costs. Moreover, in his remarkably candid remarks, Clawson shows how the U.S. can easily be forced into direct combat by pushing Iran to simply kill some Americans or sink a few of our ships. Then members would be clamoring for revenge. Notably, the Israelis have been ratcheting up the war rhetoric in pushing Iran, which predictably has now reserved the right to engage in a preemptive strike not just against Israeli but U.S. interests. We would then, again, find ourselves in a war without any public debate or collective decision.

While Clawson adds a passing caveat that he is not advocating such an approach, his remarks are clearly designed to show how the group can get the United States into a war for Israel if only we can get Iran to kill some of our citizens or soldiers. Those people are of course expendable props in Clawson’s realpolitik.

By the way, Clawson has been enlisted to give his insightful analysis at the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. He is also a member of the National Defense University’s Institute for National Strategic Studies. The World Bank connection is particularly interesting given the history with Paul Wolfowitz who pushed the U.S. into two disastrous wars in the Bush Administration and was rewarded with being made the head of the World Bank.

It is the callous disconnect that is most chilling in these remarks. Thousands of U.S. soldiers have died or have been crippled for life in these wars that have left the country near bankruptcy (and increasingly hostile “allies” in Afghanistan and Iraq). Those casualties and costs, however, appear immaterial in the discussion of supporting Israel in a war against Iran.

It seems like the U.S., Israel and their allies want to start wars against Syria and Iran as badly as this lion wants to eat this little guy:

Comments

[disabledvet]

three dimensional chess is indeed challenging.

[DeadFred]

If we wanna git them Iranians we should send in some trading robots to kill their markets and economy. If that isn't fast enough how about sending a gently used president or two- good condition, hardly done any work at all.

[gmrpeabody]

Old stock..., new in box..., appears to have never been used. Sold as is.

[BearShitWoods]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUCo1JkqnVE&feature=em-share_video_user

[DosZap]

Russia has urged restraint between Turkey and Syria so as to avoid possible cross-border conflicts while telling world powers that they should not seek ways to intervene in the Syrian war.

Sure, they have, and why are they so interested, PEACE?, BS...............

Telling world powers do not seek to intevene..........while they have been sending troops and war materials to Assad.

You Russian dicks,such lying whores, all of you.

[Spirit Of Truth]

GW....forever the apologist for Russia.  Get something straight, Russia projected the current scenario because the Kremlin is behind it:

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/07/whats-really-going-on-in-sy...

Tragically, you and many here won't get 'the truth' until you see mushroom clouds....and probably not even then.

[jonjon831983]

Benefit of the doubt - I am cautious because all sides will have their own angle and disinfo to promote self interest, but then again maybe they smell blood and the opponent is just making it so damned easy.

[ZackAttack]

Brings the bible into it in the first sentence = stop reading.

[TheFourthStooge-ing]

Spirit of Truth, so afraid of the Russians, said:

Tragically, you and many here won't get 'the truth' until you see mushroom clouds....and probably not even then.

Easy for you to 'get the truth' when all you have to do to see mushroom clouds, mushroom tracers, mushroom melting and breathing walls, mushroom flashing and oscillating orbs, et cetera, is stop taking your thorazine.

[Spirit Of Truth]

If you think that Russia is the good guy and your friend, then you are beyond thorazine.  Electroshock therapy might jolt you back to reality, but I doubt it.  No....people in this forum think they are above historical reality.  This is the apex of human folly.

[Precious]

Kremlin is behind it.  Right ... 

Anyway.  All those Zionists who hate Putin, because he too well knows your shitty little propaganda tricks, raise your right hand.  

SOT.  You get something straight, cocksucker. It's called, you are a fucking tool, you ignorant schmuck shit-for-brains, blogspot pussy.  Get a real fucking website, douchebag.

[lakecity55]

Putin did move to toss out Rothchild Bankers.

And, The Russians have a long-standing burr under the saddle about Zionist Banksters.

When the Banksters pushed Britain against the Yankee govt during the War Between The States, Russian warships came to the West Coast and were prepared to sail to the Union's defense.

The Bankster gambit failed. Next, supposed bankster agent and Confederate J W Booth shot Lincoln in revenge.

[Spirit Of Truth]

You're profound intellect is on full display for the world to see in your post.  The Kremlin appreciates your cooperation in vilifying the "evil Jews".  Hitler utilized mindless tools such as yourself to tremendous murderous effect.  Putin is a far worse threat to humanity given modern weapons of mass destruction.  Now go back to watching football and internet porn until your annihilation comes...

[Precious]

Eat shit and die, SOT pawnbroker. No one is interested in clicking on your cookie infested, Zionist blog link, you self-promoting POS. Like your fellow modernist frauds, you don't even know the meaning of Judaism.

We know your game. So proceed with your trolling like the liberal Rabbi orders. Your intellect is non-existent except in your own petty little group think.

We will still be here, pulling back the curtain on your high priests in hiding, perpetually collecting their dues. Some things never change, you see. It's always the same story, frontman, tool.  

The Russians have covered every move you make. What? You think they didn't learn anything in the past 100 years? Your game with the Russians is over, fool.  There will never be enough protesters for sale in Moscow.

Anyway, you are probably grateful to be a well-connected North American tool. At least with a house, wife and hosted blog, your mother isn't ashamed.  

So, go back to your blog and your violin. It would be sad to waste all those music lessons. You will only ever imagine how it must feel to be a man. 

Bald little fucking insect. 

[ZeroAvatar]

Spirit, I have read you're blogs.  You're right.  The nukes will fly.  Most people will just never get it.

[Element]

Is that you ST?

[Ying-Yang]

Syrian troops shelling Turkey..... right (sarc). Mystery drone flying for 30 minutes over Southern Israel while ID and Iran compete for control... right (sarc).

Religious movie trailers and MSM newscasts are a bitch.

P.S. - The person filming the lion and the child is a dickhead.