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FBI Director: I Have to Check to See If Obama Has the Right to Assassinate Americans On U.S. Soil
Fox News reports:
FBI Director Robert Mueller on Wednesday said he would have to go back and check with the Department of Justice whether Attorney General Eric Holder’s “[criteria] for the targeted killing of Americans also applied to Americans inside the U.S.
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“I have to go back. Uh, I’m not certain whether that was addressed or not,” Mueller said when asked by Rep. Tom Graves, R-Ga., about a distinction between domestic and foreign targeting
Graves followed up asking whether “from a historical perspective,” the federal government has “the ability to kill a U.S. citizen on United States soil or just overseas.”
“I’m going to defer that to others in the Department of Justice,” Mueller replied.
Indeed, Holder’s Monday speech at Northwestern University seemed to leave the door open.
Constitutional expert Jonathan Turley writes:
One would hope that the FBI Director would have a handle on a few details guiding his responsibilities, including whether he can kill citizens without a charge or court order.
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He appeared unclear whether he had the power under the Obama Kill Doctrine or, in the very least, was unwilling to discuss that power. For civil libertarians, the answer should be easy: “Of course, I do not have that power under the Constitution.”
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The claim that they are following self-imposed “limits” which are meaningless — particularly in a system that is premised on the availability of judicial review. The Administration has never said that the [Law Of Armed Conflicts] does not allow the same powers to be used in the United States. It would be an easy thing to state. Holder can affirmatively state that the President’s inherent power to kill citizens exists only outside of the country. He can then explain where those limits are found in the Constitution and why they do not apply equally to a citizen in London or Berlin. Holder was not describing a constitutional process of review. They have dressed up a self-imposed review of a unilateral power as due process. Any authoritarian measure can be dressed up as carefully executed according to balancing tests, but that does not constitute any real constitutional analysis. It is at best a loose analogy to constitutional analysis.
When reporters asked the Justice Department about Mueller’s apparent uncertainty, they responded that the answer is “pretty straightforward.” They then offered an evasive response. They simply said (as we all know) that “[t]he legal framework (Holder) laid out applies to U.S. citizens outside of U.S.” We got that from the use of the word “abroad.” However, the question is how this inherent authority is limited as it has been articulated by Holder and others. What is the limiting principle? If the President cannot order the killing of a citizen in the United States, Holder can simply say so (and inform the FBI Director who would likely be involved in such a killing). In doing so, he can then explain the source of that limitation and why it does not apply with citizens in places like London. What we have is a purely internal review that balances the practicality of arrest and the urgency of the matter in the view of the President. Since the panel is the extension of his authority, he can presumably disregard their recommendations or order a killing without their approval. Since the Administration has emphasized that the “battlefield” in this “war on terror” is not limited to a particular country, the assumption is that the President’s authority is commensurate with that threat or limitless theater of operation. Indeed, the Justice Department has repeatedly stated that the war is being fought in the United States as well as other nations.
Thus, Mueller’s uncertainty is understandable . . . and dangerous. The Framers created a system of objective due process in a system of checks and balances. Obama has introduced an undefined and self-imposed system of review ….
Before you assume that Mueller’s comments are being blown out of proportion, remember that it has been clear for some time that Obama has claimed the power to assassinate U.S. citizens within the U.S. As we pointed out in December:
I’ve previously noted that Obama says that he can assassinate American citizens living on U.S. soil.
This admittedly sounds over-the-top. But one of the nation’s top constitutional and military law experts – Jonathan Turley – agrees.
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Turley said [on C-Span]:
President Obama has just stated a policy that he can have any American citizen killed without any charge, without any review, except his own. If he’s satisfied that you are a terrorist, he says that he can kill you anywhere in the world including in the United States.
Two of his aides just … reaffirmed they believe that American citizens can be killed on the order of the President anywhere including the United States.
You’ve now got a president who says that he can kill you on his own discretion. He can jail you indefinitely on his own discretion
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I don’t think the the Framers ever anticipated that [the American people would be so apathetic]. They assumed that people would hold their liberties close, and that they wouldn’t relax …
Indeed, given that virtually any American could be considered a suspected terrorist these days, no one is safe from an all-powerful president’s whims.
As I noted in another context, circular reasoning provides all the justification needed:
The government’s indefinite detention policy – stripped of it’s spin – is literally insane, and based on circular reasoning. Stripped of p.r., this is the actual policy:
- If you are an enemy combatant or a threat to national security, we will detain you indefinitely until the war is over
- It is a perpetual war, which will never be over
- Neither you or your lawyers have a right to see the evidence against you, nor to face your accusers
- But trust us, we know you are an enemy combatant and a threat to national security
- We may torture you (and try to cover up the fact that you were tortured), because you are an enemy combatant, and so basic rights of a prisoner guaranteed by the Geneva Convention don’t apply to you
- Since you admitted that you’re a bad guy (while trying to tell us whatever you think we want to hear to make the torture stop), it proves that we should hold you in indefinite detention
See how that works?
And – given that U.S. soldiers admit that if they accidentally kill innocent Iraqis and Afghanis, they then “drop” automatic weapons near their body so they can pretend they were militants – it is unlikely that the government would ever admit that an American citizen it assassinated was an innocent civilian who has nothing at all to do with terrorism.
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...oh please Mr. Rosemary's Baby, kill me for calling you the evil dipshit terrorist assassin.
Last time I checked the U.S. government worker is being served, for the sake of criminal bankers and foreign interest, not the other way around. This fact alone means Americans are idiots, so, it makes sense that the Executive Branch would consider anyone, that does not agree with this new world order, a ligitimate target. LMAO. It is impressive to see Americans continuing to allow this government to remain in contempt of it's original mission, to serve the people. LMAO. Americans are a joke.
How times have changed. Anyone remember when the DNC/MSM industrial complex made a bid deal about the CIA trying to assisinate Castro in the late '70s?
Just got back from a week in Havana (what a cool city) and met a doll whom i will try to bring back. When trying to send money to her this week, i had to cross the border into Washington State. I was early for the bank so went to a coffee shop and when i said i just got back from Cuba, the waitress said, oh the Cubans, they hate us. No! then onto the bank where i told the three tellers in front of me i had just returned from Cuba, their simultaneous reation "oh the Cubans, they hate us"
Talk about brainwashed. I did mention the statue to martin luther king, abraham lincoln and numerous ones for hemmingway. no anit americanism at all,
Wake up America. Cubans are hot!
Idiot ... if you wanted your story to be believable, you should have said you crossed into Canada to make that transfer.
A buddy of mine has a time share in Mexico. On almost every flight he chats with the cabin crew (Americans) and without fail he is always asked if he's afraid of all the drug related killings down there.
His simple reply: "Have you ever been to Detroit"?
Maybe empire ain't so bad...
Hot cuban all right. Hot for stupid sucker gringos that will send them cash from the states after a couple of $2 blow jobs.
Geez, why would you advertised how desperate you are on a public forum?
Are you interested in purchasing some neked pictures of her?
Hahhaah.
Uhhh, one of us is STUPID!
We need a law that states: Any individual who usurpes the Presidency of the U. S. can be legally assassinated by any citizen of the United States.
Jesus, that would be a lotta assassinations.
imagine the line outside the whitehouse of folks waiting their turn patiently....
Really entering into the dark ages.
The funny thing is, when they kill 2/3 of the population, GM all the animals, and crops genetically choose and modify peoples genes to get "the best", someone, some where will fuck it all up.
It will never be perfect, even if you have genetically modified zombie servants and a low resource drag because the population will be lowered, you will still have people struggling and fighting for power, to be that number one guy- ruler of the earth.
Even with pre-crime detection, genetically modified, implanted and tracked a thousand different ways, guys will still kill each other, and want to cheat on their wives and fuck hookers in the ass.
Why go through the whole BS exercise, even among the elite there are sub-elite who won't be as elite as that other family- the class system will just rise to a new "normal" where there will still be a 1% er. Guess how much harder it will be for the 1%ers to fuck over the 1% of the 1% of the 1%?.
Anybody know how they're planning to murder the people? Poison to make it look like an accident or just shoot us all in broad day light? I'd like to know tonight so I can picture it in my head when I rise for the national anthem as I put my cap over my heart and get all patriotic.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-faa-drones-20120308,0,7518092.story
The brits like crossdressing, rubber outfits, and crazy, newsworhy, stunts: like the victim taking a bath in a sportsbag wearing nickers and a rubber custume ...
The American Way(tm) seems to be the cops busting in on some drugs-related occasion and firing hundreds of rounds in the general direction of whoever moves, then run out like cowards to keep the emergency services away for as long as it takes for the victim to bleed out from the 20 or so hits they manage to get. Probably "they" have one plant on the SWAT team that lets loose, then the others just follow.
The new American way is with Drones. Coming to a domestic area near you soon.
TV will be nothing but Jersey Shore. LMAO.
what a way to die....slow brain death
seems fairly obvious that we can finally dispense with the quaint notion that our governement is "for the people" or "by the people". nothing but a farce. a boot in the face.
Oh come on, it has been this way since the creation of the Fed and the U.N. Remember Ruby Ridge!
LawsofPhysics
Remember Ruby Ridge!
Yeah, with a good lawyer, they won.........................milions, and freedom.
But lost that which cannot be replaced.
Don't forget the black helicopters.
One more time, in reference to the FBI director, Robert Mueller III:
Other People's Money: 9/11
When the BCCI investigation reached closer to President Geo. H.W. Bush's White House back in the late '80s, early '90s, Bush appointed Robert Mueller III to be the chief of the DOJ's Criminal Division to manage the BCCI probe --- or more accurately, to deflect it away from the Bush administration and narrow the scope of the investigation.
Four days prior to 9/11/01, President Geo. W. Bush appoints Robert Mueller III to be director of the FBI -- perfect timing and what a pedigree Mueller possesses.*
One day prior to 9/11/01, the Pentagon's comptroller announces that $2.3 trillion cannot be accounted for.**
Six to seven hours prior to the events of that 9/11 morning, sometime between 2:00 AM and 3:00 AM (EST) a group email is transmitted to the DIA's financial management staff to attend an emergency meeting that very morning at their Pentagon offices --- located at the Pentagon's west wall. One staff member will fortuitously oversleep, viewing the email late and consequently arrive late -- just in time to view from afar the plane crashing into the super-reinforced west wall, severely injuring or killing almost the entire financial management group of the DIA, and those computer systems involved with discovering said missing funds; apparently data backups aren't the order of the day?
That very same morning on 9/11/01, the National Reconnaissance Office's (NRO) ops center would be evacuated due to an exercise simulating an attack by suicide aircraft flying into that facility. (Sound vaguely familiar?) Therefore, no one was on hand to manually task their recon satellites on the airspace above NYC and the Pentagon.
Thanks to further expansion of the Web over the Internet (2003 - 2005), cached pages of dramatically increased data transmission and EFTs, originating from three firms residing in the two WTC towers to offshore locations, could be accessed.
Shortly after 9/2001, in early 2002, an explosive growth occurs in offshore hedge funds.
Background research on those unfortunate passengers aboard the involved airliners (victims who were certain to die that day) indicated that some of the pax fall into three unique groups, along with three unique individuals aboard.
The three groups: (1) developers of remote piloting hardware and software; (2) individuals involved in the creation of a terrorist scenario remarkably similar to that which occurred on 9/11/01 (among that group of victims was an Israeli counterterrorist expert and one of the airliners' pilots, a former career Naval officer); and, (3) some of the individuals involved with the investigation into Flight 800's demise.
The three individuals: (1) wife number three of the solicitor general, who would quickly move on to wife number four once the insurance settlement came through (death by opportunity?); (2) a lady attorney, rumored to be involved with a senior married partner of the conservative and politically-connected law firm which successfully defended Fox News on several cases of fictionalizing the news (death by opportunity?); and, (3) a physicist with the Naval Surface Warfare Center's Directed Energy Section.
[We are not suggesting any of these victims were aware of the events to transpire on 9/11 --- this appears to be a highly compartmentalized operation.]
Intensive pattern analysis, link analysis, and link and group analysis indicates the five principal players involved: the Blackstone Group, Veritas Capital, AIG, the office of the VP, and the office of the SecDef.
Some time prior to 9/11/01, a financial news announcement would explain an investment by AIG in the Blackstone Group (source document of transaction, along with hard copy source documents of thousands of ongoing SEC investigations resided in the destroyed WTC Building 7 – no source docs, case closed!). The amount of AIG’s investment was approximately the final insurance payout amount to the property management/RE firm for the WTC destruction (classic paper money false transfer and money laundering scheme, relatively simple --- for a far more circuitous, and commonplace, accounting scheme, please see Retirement Heist, by Ellen Schultz, p. 209 on “leveraged ESOPs”).
The mortgage owner of record for WTC Building 7: the Blackstone Group.
The firm awarded the $1 billion captive insurance fund management contract by Bush’s FEMA, for settlement with WTC victims’ families: the Blackstone Group.
The firm which negotiated the largest and quickest real estate deal in NYC history, the WTC lease transfer from the Port Authority of NY and NJ to Silverstein Properties and Westfield America, Inc.: the Blackstone Group.
During the week prior to 9/11/01, the fiber optic installation firm, EurekaGGN, installed dark fiber in the top floors of the two WTC towers (they had the contract for cabling the entire WTC), utilizing a method to pump the fiber optical cables through existing HVAC vents running beneath each floor.
[To reiterate: the west wall of the Pentagon had been reinforced, according to Structure Magazine, which also posed the question as to why only one wall and a plane crashes into it. Fiber optic is being installed, but never verified as to being operational, in the WTC towers, and planes crash into them --- access, access, access!]
Technical details not widely known: two of the four airliners involved didn’t appear on the FAA Flight Registry which logs all commercial flights, per standard procedure, as they were reserved as DoD Special Charters, meaning that each plane must seat those reserved for DoD personnel, and must depart at the schedule time, but any remaining seats may be filled commercially.
Aircraft pointedly flew to shadow zones – where radar coverage was obscured due to topography and ATCC limitations – where the transponders were then powered down – normally, they would have triggered ATCC radar indicators. (Highly doubtful those Saudi Arabian hijacker cutouts would have known these recondite details?); and recovered black box data, obtained through FOIA requests, give no indication of any hijacking taking place (and yes, there does exist a governmental database of black box hijacking data for comparison purposes).
There were over 1,000 other “coincidences” which took place that morning, all tracking back to the five principal players.
Recap: $2.3 trillion announced unaccounted, and DIA’s financial management group is almost entirely wiped out, along with involved computer systems, dramatically increased data transmissions and EFTs out of WTC towers in preceding 12 hours, and people and computer systems involved are killed and destroyed, with explosive growth in offshore hedge funds occurring shortly thereafter.
Veritas Capital, purchaser and owner of former Raytheon subsidiary which employed those remote piloting hardware and software developers and subcontractors aboard some of those airliners involved in 9/11, and Veritas Capital makes some incredibly prescient defense industry investments shortly prior to 9/11/01.
[Containment process: Immediately after the first Anthrax attack, DynCorp's Dynport Vaccine Company was awarded an Anthrax government contract -- therefore any possible future investigation would logically turn up Anthrax. Dynport Vaccine Company was located right by Ft. Detrick, probably point of origin of weaponized Anthrax, but Detrick didn't possess the required lab equipment to weaponize, while Dynport did. (Dynport was owned by DynCorp, government contractor and private military company, later cited for human trafficking crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq -- and was purchased by Veritas Capital, and later sold.)
Recovered disk drives in WTC Towers were strangely -- given their classified and sensitive nature -- sent overseas to a German data recovery firm, Convar, recently purchased by Kroll (and not to the NSA as one would obviously assume???). A spokesman for Convar publicly stated that some data had been recovered, but said data and drives were delivered to the FBI HQ in D.C., where they promptly disappeared.]
Increasing the awareness of evil….
*Robert Mueller III, FBI director, is the grandnephew of Richard Bissell, one of the three top CIA types who President Kennedy fired. Mueller’s wife is the granddaughter of Charles Cabell, another of those three CIA people JFK had fired (the third was Allen Dulles, who would later manage the Warren Commission!
** http://www.financial-edu.com/history-of-credit-derivatives.php
2002
-Rise of Hedge Funds: Number of funds increases from 4000 in 2002 managing $2 trillion to 8000+ managing $4 trillion. This creates intense demand for new structured products with higher yields.
And the other interesting thing- John O'Neill reported to his new job as head of security for WTC on the very day. Oh yeah, he was perhaps the most knowledgeable person on al-Qaeda's operations, having tracked them for years as head of an FBI group responsible for that. He'd left the FBI after being involved in several internal conflicts: he was hot-headed, and, perhaps, was getting to close to the strings behind al-Qaeda.
I believe that O'Neill was really a true patriot, and that his steadfastness to it ended his life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wReyo880qHI&feature=related
Special Agent John O'Neill was Deputy Director of the FBI under Louis Freeh from 1997 to 1999. His specialty: Tracking al-Qaeda. In the months prior to 9/11 he sent evidence of the impending attacks, along with important information about the suspects who were planning on carrying it out, up through the chain of command and was met with nothing but resistance and attempts to ruin his credibility. Frustrated with this, O'Neill had gone public, stating that he was ordered not to investigate Saudi/al-Qaeda connections because of the Enron pipeline deal.
O'Neill then left the FBI and began working as head of security at the World Trade Center, which reportedly offered him double [some reports say triple] his current FBI salary. His first day was September 11th, 2001. He was the man taking over for the complex's then security-head, Marvin Bush [the President's brother] whose company, Securacom [a.k.a. Stratesec], happened to be in charge of security for United Airlines, as well as the security detail at Dulles International Airport, from which American Airlines Flight 77 that allegedly hit the Pentagon had originated that morning.
O'Neill was on the 34th floor of the North Tower when the first plane hit. He had evacuated the building and was last seen alive by fellow FBI agent Wesley Wong outside the South Tower about 15 minutes before it collapsed. His uncharred body would be found weeks later under a stairwell of that same building. John O'Neill --the Man who Knew--was dead at age 49.
That wouldn't be the same Louis Freeh that's now responsible for seeing the MF Global execitives get more bonuses paid out of the MFG clients' stolen segregated funds, would it?
Yea because it makes perfect sense that the FBI would be concerned about AlQaeda/Saudi connections.
Good point Bot, the FBI didn't even know.
So somehow it was really possible for the government to blow up it's own buildings without it's own police force even knowing.
Fucking hysterical!
I so adore when you post shit that diametrically contradicts your own delusions.
Fox News Did it! THanks for the info. Case closed.
One more time,
same government that cannot plow the roads or deliver the mail did not pull off 9/11.
same egregious government conduct has been around since government started, oh they more brazen about it now. Bigfuckingdeal.
But don't let that get in the way of a some old fashioned delusional moonbatism.
I don't have much trouble getting my mail or getting the roads plowed. It all depends on how much resources the agency care to throw at the problem.
It's clear that the ones that pulled off 9-11 had plenty of resources -- they had billions of $$ to gain -- to throw at it and it's also clear that the 19 accused hijackers and bin Laden had miniscule resources, so little that their accusation in the plot is laughable. Wylie Coyote is just as likely a suspect.
19 accused hijackers and bin Laden had miniscule resources, so little that their accusation in the plot is laughable.
Well, since the Jackers were Saudi's,(most if not all) and OsambaBenDead was a mutli millionaire, he had plenty of resousrces to carry it out.
Keep believing the official bullshit. The Feds need more people like you. Maybe the sheep herders will let you be one of their dogs. ATF, DEA, TSA, DHS are all hiring.
when it snows my roads get plowed and my mail gets
delivered, is that unusual?
Unless they are real evil geniuses who have been making it look like they can't do those things so that you would never, by reason of incompetence, suspect them of doing the truly evil things.
"same government that cannot plow the roads or deliver the mail did not pull off 9/11."
Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?
How about: the SAME govt that landed a man on the moon, the same govt that created nuclear energy (Manhattan Project)...
You will only see what you want to see, and with your head up your ass it's pretty obvious that all that you see is BROWN.
Real close analogies!
Same government that could not even prevent holiday party crashers into the whitehouse during War on Terror red levels.
Same government that just handed Iran a drone?
Same government that couldn't covertly wipe it's own ass?
You REALLY are that fucking stupid.
Oh the sun will eventually kill all humanity anyway so who care's.
Get lost today doomsdaybot?
"..same government that cannot plow the roads or deliver the mail did not pull off 9/11."
One LAST time, xkmoron, try to take some reading comprehension lessons --- nowhere did anyone suggest it was "the government" douchebagger boy!
We made mention of 3 corporate entities, and two offices within the government, ruled over by one "elected" (and it's safe to assume an idiot like yourself is clueless as to owns the top three voting machine firms in America, so I'll use that word) and one appointed to those offices.
Now, douchey dood, for tonight's homework assssssignment (for asssses like ignoramuses like you), research the backgrounds of those individuals occupying the present US Treasury senior management positions, and their backgrounds, for the present and past two administrations.
Do the same for the State Department appointees, and USAID, OPIC, and any other foreign aid positions.
Next, look closely into the backgrounds of Marc Grossman, Stephen Cambone, the principal revenue generator for Lockheed Martin, which managed the privatized Counter Intelligence Field Activity which operated in the Pentagon during the Bush administration, and missing secrets from the Los Alamos nuke facility.
Next, find out the backgrounds of Peter G. Peterson (Blackstone Group) and relationships to the Rockefeller family, Henry Kissinger, etc., as well as his relationship to then-AIG chairman and CEO, Hank Greenberg. Also, look into Greenberg's background and relationship to Henry Kissinger, etc.
But first, take that reading comprehension course, dood!
[And FYI, halfwit, those who bounce back and forth between Wall Street and the senior government positions at Treasury and the intel directorates, don't give a rat's ass about whether your street or your hopeless butt gets plowed --- they only care about your, or Other, People's Money.
Idiot!]
That strawman 'incompetent government' argument is evergreen to these trolls. They're still working from the same tired playbook.
Clearly from your impeccable evidence and has been documented comprehensively since that cowardly attack, the responsible actors were criminals that had infiltrated the superficial government on behalf of the shadow government....a role Xcremently Painful is most probably not unfamiliar with....
Yea it's in line with the strawman that the US needed to kill thousands of it's own citizens to justify invading a sandbox half a globe away.
Yea it's in line with there being 208,791 ways the government could have accomplished the deluded moonbat goal without conducting said attack even if popular sentiment mattered.
Right in line with planning an attack to start a war but not actually directly connecting said attack with the subsequent country being invaded.
ah, but there's something in that sand
Xkwisetly Paneful
The Department of Defense is not the 'government' in the sense that you are describing, and you are right, Monopolistic Corporations run the US government. It obvious that parts of the DOD act more like the private mercenary forces of these corporations than anything else, certainly in the way that our military interventions are what allow these monopolists to extract cheap resources from the rest of the world without any competition, making enviably handsome profits. It is our military that enables and protects the extraction of this wealth by acting as the muscle to put down any rebellions or ousting any leader that gets in the way of their unilateral profit extraction. The DOD does not do this for the American people, after all, the government do not charge these monopolistic corporations what it costs the tax payers for them to have this private military doing this capital intensive 'work' on their behalf. The tax payers are actually subsidizing their businesses with trillions of our tax dollars under the guise of 'national security'.
Nice deal for them and I'm sure that they want to keep the gravy train going at all costs. However, they need the Sheeple to go along with costly wars that they will have to fund with their hard earned tax dollars and the lives of people's children. That kind of popular support for war, takes alot of marketing in the media and the creation of 'enemies' for the entire country to rally against. We know how this works, they did this in South and Central America in the 70's and 80's, Vietnam before that. Imperial powers have done this kind of thing for centuries. If anyone wants to see what the monopolists got from the Vietnam War, google Standard Oil+Vietnam.
Now, whether the US government, the monopolists, or anyone else was really to blame for 9/11 is another matter.
What disturbs me about 9/11 is the fact that people don't want to discuss it. It seems that, for most people, this event was so traumatic that they suffer from severe post traumatic stress, to the point of denial and avoidance, the majority going into this reactive mode of discounting anything, however rational, that calls for them to analyze or question any of the 'facts' that they have been told to believe by the mainstream media or official government sources.
Rational, thinking people, even those that mistrust the government on most things, still cannot seem to want to face these questions. It has to be post traumatic stress, nothing else about this collective attitude and common reaction makes rational sense.
What I find the most difficult thing to believe about the 'official' story, is the question of why the September 11th Commission did not test for explosives. This fact has been admitted by the September 11th Commission itself, so this is not a 'theory' but an undisputed fact.
Now, we know, or some of us know, that in order to have a grand jury indict a defendant of a crime, only one witness to the commission of this crime is needed, only one.
In the case of September 11th, the biggest crime in the history of our country, there were over 150 witnesses, first responders and people who worked in the towers, that heard, saw, and felt explosions coming from the bottom of the building and elevator shafts.
In the firefighters manual, it is standard procedure for fire investigators to test for explosives in a simple arson cases, and always, if witnesses report explosions. By their own manual, they HAVE to test for these things, even in a simple arson. It they don't test, they would be in violation of their own standards and procedures.
So why would the investigators involved investigating September 11th, NOT, test for explosives?
What if the terrorists used explosives and there were more of them out there that needed to be tracked down and arrested? Wouldn't the FBI want to find the other co-conspirators who may have been working with the highjackers to be found? Wouldn't they want to trace the origins of these explosives if there were explosives involved?
That's the one thing that cannot be explained away, at least for me. We were attacked. The American people deserve a real investigation into what happened so that it can be prevented from happening again.
The first paragraph is gibberish. No entity makes more on said resources than the government ruling the land it sits atop and it is not close.
So the people supported the actions in Libya?
the US recently pulled out of Iraq.
something that would not have been the case if 9/11 was directly linked to the Hussein regime.
they would be there till the year 3000 looking for future wannabee pilots and making money off of it.
So they were behind 9/11 but were too stupid to tie it directly to Iraq and instead let the Iraq war hinge on finding WMDS.
which obviously if behind 9/11 same folks easily could have planted in Iraq,
which would not have meant abdicating power to a neo marxist community organizer and insure not only longer war in Iraq but certainly greater resources spent than what was spent on the Bin Laden chase.
So still it makes no sense at all unless one fanatically wants it to.
if you actually believe we "pulled out of iraq" you need to pull other things out of other places
That's an awfully long-winded reply to offer a worthless troll.
@Blunderdog
It was a general response for anyone that feels the way that he/she feels or claims to feel. It was long winded, it's true!
It wasn't the "government" per se that "pulled off" 9/11 - it was the fascist shadow government or an arm of same that did the actual deed on that day. Take your pick of the entities involved in the shadow government - I'm not sure who they all are but I have an idea on some of them. These are the same entities that originally came to power after JFK's assassination. President Eisenhower warned us about them in general terms his farewell address in January of 1961. The original text of his address called them the "congressional/military/industrial complex" which was changed to just the "military/industrial complex" in his final address. If we don't start actually fighting back soon we are screwed . . . .
Great trolling style, you're really making me wish for an ignore button. Your troll posts aren't even remotely entertaining to read in fact most of the time they just make me want to slit my wrists.
joke is on you... the government didn't "pull off 911".... it fucked it up a dozen ways and has spent the last decade trying keep a lid on the truth... seems pretty obvious at this point, the cover up attempts are failing rapidly.
joke is on you... the government didn't "pull off 911".... just like it didn't "plant" WMDS in Iraq.
Sonny, boy, have you actually ever read any news in your pathetic, excrement addled life?
(Didn't think so!)
Recall, douchey dood, that the CIA's counter-WMDs-proliferation operation, Brewster Jennings and Associates, intercepted a shipment of some type of WMD (rumored to be VX gas or some type of poisonous gas) during a smuggling attempt across the Turkish/Iraqi border (ops supervisor was one Valerie Plame Wilson).
Ms. Plame, and by extension, Brewster Jennings, was "outed" by Marc Grossman, and highly publicized my cretins, Ari Fleischman, Richard Armitrage and Robert "the sleazily ugly" Novak --- shouting loudly her CIA status!
Thus, shutting down the investigation into the origin of that attempted smuggling operation.
Go back and do that homework asssssignment, jackhole!