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Tue, 10/16/2012 - 02:12 | 2893240 ShakaZulu
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If cartoon bear isn't Yogi Bear, or Smokey the Bear, or even Winnie the Pooh, then it must be Gentle Ben:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/etfchannel/2010/12/06/gentle-ben-opens-the-door-for-qe3/

 

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:07 | 2892874 Atlantis Consigliore
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  http://youtu.be/ClnSMCdw6E8 a Merkle Erkel Bernank Fed Chair Fuhrer; , lisping, did i do that?

We need a lisping Metrosexual Hitler/Fed Chair.... to mouth thw words, over the german, in English;

like Bernank with a lisp and a hiccup and giggle, and a stammer and studder, 

 

you know ; Talk like a Bureaucrat, with Lies and Obsucations and misdirections, and printing.

 

"Did I do that?"   

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:11 | 2892881 williambanzai7
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There is an artist who has done a whole series of pink totalitarians. It's pretty funny. You should be able to find him on google image search.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 00:29 | 2893145 fourchan
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i love those bears, buy the fucking dip.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:14 | 2892713 Stud Duck
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William. just logged back on, read through all the comments, as a reader of Albert Speers "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" at 14, and re-read twice since youfor the details, I must admit the link to the Goebbels diary will most certainly have to be read.

As Speers quote of Neitche, "those who fail to learn their history are condemned to relive it" as a reason for his efforts on the task.

Although I live in a rural area, loaded with illogical thinkers, a quick quote from Nietche or Speer, usually will baffel even the most persistant war monger Republican or Democrat.  As all are either cattle ranchers, farmers or retired military from the Whiteman AFB,

I was one of those eager to give their life 40 years ago for an ideal, learned the true horror of what war is actually so also have that leverage over most of the chicken hawks.

I forward all your stuff to retired General friends, Federal investigators retires, I know it is having an effect! Keep the material comming, I will keep forwarding to all my contacts!,

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:09 | 2892878 williambanzai7
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There are some people in the military who are very well read and understand the historical/cultural perspective, although the end result is not always the same. Anyone who seriously studies the concept of  "civilian shaping" (the manipulation of the civilian population as an extension of the theater of operation) has to take a broader approach. But what comes back is very similar to what you find in military operatiing manuals. Hardly recognizable. ;-)

I have always said that the military of this country is a cultural cross stitch. You can't just stereotype or label everyone with a military background. 

BTW, Thanks for your service. 

 

 

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 19:49 | 2892517 Die Weiße Rose
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looks more like the last days of the French Revolution -

Panama wants to join the Euro and ditch the devalued and corrupted USD.

(they must have been listening to complaints from China)

Scotland wants to split from the not so United Queendom

and ditch the old colonial British Regime.

things are looking up for Europe -

wr;)

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 19:32 | 2892496 rlouis
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William - thanks for the link to Goebbel's diary (arrrrg 900+ pages ... what a backlog of reading I've got!)   For a truly iconoclastic perspective on Hitler and the Nazis, take a look at the Pink Swastika, the book provides a well documented thesis on the gay-butch-pederastic components of the Nazi party that is totally contrary to common knowledge and yet, for one small smell-test - consider mental images of Nazi uniforms and the gay-leather S/M attire - the connection runs deep.  I stumbled across a review of the Pink Swastika on the web - surprised the heck out of me, ended up getting the book. 

You can read their book on-line too http://www.thepinkswastika.com/

 

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 19:18 | 2892470 nmewn
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"The theory of aggregated production, which is the point of the following book, nevertheless can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state [eines totalen Staates] than the theory of production and distribution of a given production put forth under conditions of free competition and a large degree of laissez-faire."

Well yeah, its quite apparent. Print me up another Solyndra, Fisker, Solazyme etc. stat!!!

Fuckin kids, whattaya gonna do? ;-)

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:23 | 2892588 New_Meat
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"Fuckin kids, whattaya gonna do? ;-)"

Well, young_meat was already conditioned, when I asked him that question.  However, neice_meat was rather shocked when she received her first no-foolin' paycheck.

Lookie' here--all the money that you are paying.

Then the .gov "malinvestments" become rather clearer.  And the EBT fraud becomes a lot more real.

- Ned

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:53 | 2892654 nmewn
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"Lookie' here--all the money that you are paying.

Then the .gov "malinvestments" become rather clearer. And the EBT fraud becomes a lot more real."

Thats really what it boils down to. The "Keynes strategy" is to consolidate the elites power & gains already made. Not to look for any other option for the betterment of all society through 300 millions of individual efforts.

Sad really, the sheep can't see it...go the easy route, accept your lot in life, its sheep/human nature afterall to be herded and do as you're told.

For most ;-)

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:37 | 2892789 New_Meat
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"For most... "

Well, here in the Commonwealth, we're testing that to the max.  'cuz Professor Warren has no shit $37MM in her war chest.

And our friend GW thinks that the "intellectual founder of the Occupy Wall Street Movement" is one of the so-called 99%.

Go figure.

Yet, Scott is still polling in the perverted MA press ahead of Fauxcahonas.  Granny is turning off many normal people.

We'll see here.

- Ned

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 08:51 | 2893954 nmewn
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Looks like Lies-beth has a little law license thingy goin on too...

"Elizabeth Warren never bothered to get a license to practice law in Massachusetts despite using her Harvard Law School office for a substantial part-time law practice which netted her hundreds of thousands of dollars in at least 22 court cases plus legal consulting starting in the mid-1990s and continuing through 2010.

This is precisely the type of situation which a prominent federal judge, William Young, in an unrelated case said warranted investigation by the Massachusetts Board of Bar Overseers.

In defense, Warren supporters raise irrelevant side issues, such as the assertion that she complied with the rules of each court in which she appeared. As I have explained, that is not a defense because in addition to complying with court admission rules, attorneys also need to be licensed in the states in which they practice law."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/10/former-us-attorney-calls-for-investigation-of-elizabeth-warren-law-license-problem/

Circle the wagons! ;-)

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 18:51 | 2892412 SillySalesmanQu...
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Kommunists Kidnapping Kountries

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 18:32 | 2892370 rustymason
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The Hitler meme is soooooo played. Besides, our situation is much closer in many ways to Marxism than to the national socialism of the 1930's and early 1940's. The Nazi's at least wanted to build up Europe to a very high standard and they worked to protect their people from the vicious, mass-murdering commies in the east. Today "Western" governments are actively promoting Marxism and are purposely successfully destroying Western peoples and their culture. They brag about it every single day.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:12 | 2892616 williambanzai7
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Sorry, the way to describe Nazis does not begin with the words "at least they."

As for what is being promoted today, it can best be described as inverted Totalitarian Marxist. The corporatist state redistributing the wealth to the corporatists and Banksters. This is accomplished many different ways.

Let me also make a small observation about so called "internet memes."

Jazz impro. Everyone else steps up and does a version of a standard. Then when everyone thinks its all been done, in walks a Miles or a Monk who shows them what they never considered, the point being its easy to do a meme version when they first get started. Not so easy later after the turf has worn through.

In any event, I came across this one googling central planning and Hitler.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:38 | 2892598 williambanzai7
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Mon, 10/15/2012 - 15:33 | 2891686 shovelhead
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Lol @ Hitler and the Bearz.

Keynesians are the Catholic Church insisting that the Sun revolves around the Earth while Galileo gazes at the heavens under house arrest.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 14:44 | 2891529 The Heart
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Cartoons are reality too...right?

Pt. 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sy6r1tcGrk

Pt. 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8YQk0jr_Bw

 

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Mon, 10/15/2012 - 14:50 | 2891551 williambanzai7
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There is a big difference between a "cartoon fantasy" and illustrated satire.

One cardinal rule of satire is the subject matter must be grounded in realism or facts which are then twisted in an unexpected way in order to strike at a target.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 15:08 | 2891611 Skateboarder
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+ truth tokens

Satire needs elements of reality in order to produce an echo. A lack of enough realism only makes a muted note.

Be on the verge of the space age for four decades --> have crappy energy drink company sponsor useless "space" theatrics.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 14:29 | 2891480 Lost Wages
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NO MOAR HITLER VIDEOZE.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 14:34 | 2891495 williambanzai7
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A meme is a meme.

This particular video resonates satirically, unlike most of the other Hitler meme videos, and FYI is the first and only one I have ever linked.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 18:43 | 2892402 bank guy in Brussels
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The only part of the above Hitler video that made me laugh, were when Hitler spoke about cartoon bears 'sh*tting in the woods', and when someone farted at Hitler's bunker dinner table.

Btw, WB7, great link above to David Irving's Goebbels book. Irving is a fascinating character who has added a lot to World War II understanding, along with some controversy. Irving was for a time jailed in Austria for his writing, because he violated the stupid 'Holocaust denial' laws we have in many countries here. Irving later admitted he was wrong ... but no one should ever be jailed for a historical opinion.

Even many Jews I know (often non-Zionist, here in Belgium) think those laws are stupid and actually hurt the Jews, making it look like there is something to hide.

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WB, I think your intentions are genuine ... but I believe the extreme Keynes-bashing is playing into the hands of the billionaire oligarchs

It sneaks in what they want, the reason they are supplying so many funds to 'libertarian' causes, along this chain:

Anti-Keynesianism = anti-government spending = destroying social spending, and driving common people into poverty

As grotesque and destructive as excessive debt is, the polar opposite is no less destructive. Oligarchs are playing the 'anti-debt movement' to get to their real goal: Destroying social insurance, i.e., the European social model, which actually works ... Market economy on top of a social-protection underlayment. If you think of well-run social benefits as 'public insurance' instead of 'handouts' you start to realise what is ideal.

The ultimate goal of the oligarchs, is to destroy the kind of sweet life that exists in north-west Continental Europe, where we actually eliminated poverty for legal residents while having vibrant economies. This is sustainable if done intelligently, believe it or not ... we proved that here. We still have paradise now in our quadrant (fragile and fading).

The excessive debt of recent years, seems to have been run-up on purpose by oligarchs in order to try to crash the system ... The oligarchs' plan seems to work especially well with Americans, who use 'socialist!' as an insult ... but the fact is, we have had relative paradise here for some decades, the best place to live in the world, thanks to 'socialism'.

'Anti-Keynesianism' would better be replaced by 'anti-oligarchism' ... which can have many different faces.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:44 | 2893033 mark mchugh
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I very much see your point, and it concerns me too.  I want social protections and am willing to pay for them. 

I'm not willing to pay government employees 150% of their private sector counterparts.

I'm not willing to fund aimless military actions and all the junk procurement spending that goes with it (seriously, I have no idea what winning a war in Afghanistan is even supposed to look like).

I don't need somebody feeling my wife's tits to feel safe on an airplane (as long as there's locks on the cockpit doors, I'm fine).

But somehow whenever you say "cut spending" they hear "cut the safety nets". 

Example: I think every kid should be vaccinated against things like polio and smallpox and I'm willing to bear shared costs to make that reality (it's cheap), and I don't really care if someone wants to label me for it.  The TPTB will use the libertarian (or anti-Keynesian) argument to end things like vaccinations programs and public libraries.  I'm seeing that dynamic too.

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Tue, 10/16/2012 - 01:14 | 2893192 williambanzai7
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Right, its fine to argue about cutting entitlements, but no one wants to talk about all the waste that goes into the war on terror and pampering Wall Street etc. All the beltway consultants, security  and surveillance contractors etc. All the military projection. All the backdoor bailout mechanisms. When you look at it all on a chart it is mind boggling.

It's a war on Americans and their bank accounts.

The only one who has the guts to publicly say this is Ron Paul.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 08:42 | 2893919 mark mchugh
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Exactly.

And while I generally align myself with Libertarians, I pride myself in not being an ideologue (I think you're the same, WB7).  I like public parks and have no problem with PBS getting a little funding.  Like I said before the cost/benefit ratio is nothing.

I see a lot of so-called "libertarian" ranters out there that are far more focused on abolishing minimum wage laws than winding down the war machine, or restoring constitutional rights.  I think that's what "bank guy" was trying to warn about.

 

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 09:07 | 2893986 MsCreant
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Enjoyed reading your exchange guys. I am troubled by this issue and do not have a clear bead on how it can ever be worked out. The taxation is abusive. I do think safety nets benefit us all, even when it is not specifically us who need it at a given time. When there is a trough of money, it gets depersonalized and those spending it don't focus so much on the idea that if it is misspent it is theft. I understand the rage of those who are taxed and see the money being spent stupidly, feel it myself, particularly when debt is created in our name.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 09:32 | 2894071 williambanzai7
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Fiscal responsibility is extremely important, but that is not the public discussion we are getting. It is cut yours but let me keep my toys.

Now as a matter of social conscience, I think it is better to spend one dollar helping someone who genuinely needs help as opposed to spending 100 to blow up a wedding party or spy on my neighbors or pay for a consulting contract for Giuliani Associates etc

But the bottom line has to be what do I want to load on my kids and their kids, because that's who is paying for all this shit and the people in Washington are totally out of touch in this regard...the people on Wall Street etc couldn't give a flying fuck just as long as they have an exit strategy.

Let's face it, those scumbags don't care because they live in moral hazard la la land.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 10:08 | 2894493 mark mchugh
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Well, that makes three of us, anyway....

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:01 | 2892647 williambanzai7
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It's more complicated than what you are saying. We are printing money to finance Banksterism and build a dronetopolis.

Serially debasing our currency works just fine for the entitled ones. It's shit for the middle class and by middle class I mean middle class, not Romney's $250'000 gross income idea.

The proles struggling for crumbs are caught in the vice because the wonders of modern efficiency and the leisure state were never meant for their benefit. There is just not enough room for them. Just how many burger flippers, shovel Freddie's are needed? Upward mobility is looking like another quaint anachronism for many reasons.

Globally, we are engaged in a war for wealth and the people running the show, pulling the strings is a better way to put it, don't even have a mixed agenda. Their agenda is to save themselves first and foremost. Maximum noise level is the name of their game.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:48 | 2892642 Stoploss
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It is always a wise decision to be somewhat educated about various postings, so the shit does not spew from the open orifice uncontrollably.

Hitler blamed the jews for Weimar, and his lost art scholarship. Nothing more, nothing less, but moreover, he was simply a vehicle for the rest of the people to place the blame where they thought it should be placed.

Hitler did not seek out the jews, they were delivered to him by the people. And they demanded something be done.

These two links will get you started.

 

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/why_hitler_hated_jews/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 16:56 | 2891883 cossack55
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Funny is funny, regardless of genre.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 14:10 | 2891434 chrisd
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I think he also said that spending increases would be met with tax increases. Financial bailout, two wars and Medicare Part B have been met with tax decreases.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 14:39 | 2891433 williambanzai7
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Siegfried Kracauer: "FROM CALIGARI TO HITLER"

 

SIEGFRIED KRACAUER: FROM CALIGARI TO HITLER

This book is credited as probably the first example of critical film theory. It explores the "world view" of the German people during the interwar period as reflected by the "visual hieroglyphics" of the German film industry of the Weimar period.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 15:56 | 2891733 Zadok
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My my, that's a good summary. Applies anywhere anytime. Looks like today, nearly everywhere!

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 19:08 | 2892443 Wakanda
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My locals are beginning to polarize into Libertarian and Republicrats.  The old red/blue guard still runs the show, but they are getting more frightened and fascist all the time.  Sometimes they are laugh out loud stupid.

The real surprise for me is all of the younger women buying guns.  Pink pistols at the Fish and Game club!  Who'd a thunk!

The Second American Revolution, unfolding now in a neighborhood near you.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 14:44 | 2891531 resurger
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I had to read this twice, this is very true and critical!

But WB, what was democracy back then in Germany?

Becuase we tend to go irrational and negative when injustice and poverty hits deep

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 15:03 | 2891572 williambanzai7
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I thought about that. The failure of a broken system laid the groundwork for Hitler.

The main point is the willingness of people in such circumstances to go along with things that are clearly not in their best interests as a trade off for promised protection against whatever insecurity or fear they are suffering. This is also known as the "social cleavage."

The great manipulators are experts at reading these fears and playing to them with empty promises. Get everybody marching, that's the ticket.

Now, if you read what Bernanke just said about QE and emerging market inflation (i.e., China) you will notice another historical resonance. We are going to print our way out of the hole we made and the rest of the world can stuff it.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:58 | 2892666 prains
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The failure of a broken system laid the groundwork for Hitler.

what I find most interesting about the broken system was the vacuum of silence around WHO financed Hitler's empire building.

The money came from somewhere.......hmmmmmmmmm I wonder where it all came from. Last letter ends in A

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:09 | 2892691 williambanzai7
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All the research and writing on the topic of Nazi financing has been quietly swept under the rug. But it is there for anyone who is interested in looking.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:55 | 2892842 prains
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It's interesting how uninterested those who should be interested aren't interested in finding out something interesting. Interesting.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:26 | 2892919 williambanzai7
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When you consider the nature of "financial hedging" the history is not surprising. The problem is most people, and by most people I don't mean people who frequent Zero Hedge, don't understand the concept of big ticket hedging.

Just like TPTB think they have it  have it covered now, they thought they had it covered back then. And guess what...they did.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 17:04 | 2891900 BandGap
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On my drive into work, Jill Schlesinger (Money Magazine editor-at-large) in response to a question concerning what other countries thought of our money printing said she didn't care, it wasn't her problem. The US should do what it has to do and let the rest of the world worry about themsleves.

Ah, radio.  It struck me as the next step in the journey that we have pundits (financial in this instance) who now embrace the fact that they really don't give a shit, and netiher should you. It is being spewed as I type this. An eye (and ear) opening moment. Can the end be far off?

 

 

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:42 | 2892631 williambanzai7
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Unilateralism, it looks so easy.

Wait until what goes around comes back around.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 18:58 | 2892431 NotApplicable
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We've long passed the event horizon, so they don't even have to pretend to care anymore. After all, she's got hers.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 15:59 | 2891745 Zadok
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My observation is similar. Steal from everyone, including foreign sovereigns, and back up the theft with military might if challenged. I think China will challenge soon...

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:14 | 2892572 New_Meat
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Zadok: you are not off point at all, but:

"Steal from everyone, including foreign sovereigns,.."

was pretty well hosed in the WWI treaty environment.

China will be very careful and will challenge in quite "asymmetric" ways.  OIF and OEF have taught the adversaries the benefits of asymmetric warfare, Panetta and gang have no clue, and ...

But it will be carefully executed, lotsa' OE to find the true weak points.

- Ned

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 08:13 | 2893817 Zadok
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Ned, I get the asymmetric aspects, agreed, but could you expand a bit more and skip the acronyms. Sorry to be obtuse but you lost me, and I'm interested in your thought.
Thanks.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 14:10 | 2891432 Nobody For President
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The presses and the computers are not responsible.

It's the nuts behind the wheels...

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