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U.S. Officials Guilty of War Crimes for Using 9/11 As a False Justification for the Iraq War

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U.S. Officials Created a False Link Between Iraq and 9/11

5 hours after the 9/11 attacks, Donald Rumsfeld said “my interest is to hit Saddam”.

He also said “Go massive . . . Sweep it all up. Things related and not.”

And at 2:40 p.m. on September 11th, in a memorandum of discussions between top administration officials, several lines below the statement “judge whether good enough [to] hit S.H. [that is, Saddam Hussein] at same time”, is the statement “Hard to get a good case.” In other words, top officials knew that there wasn’t a good case that Hussein was behind 9/11, but they wanted to use the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to justify war with Iraq anyway.

Moreover, “Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the [9/11] attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda”.

And a Defense Intelligence Terrorism Summary issued in February 2002 by the United States Defense Intelligence Agency cast significant doubt on the possibility of a Saddam Hussein-al-Qaeda conspiracy.

And yet Bush, Cheney and other top administration officials claimed repeatedly for years that Saddam was behind 9/11. See this analysis. Indeed, Bush administration officials apparently swore in a lawsuit that Saddam was behind 9/11.

Moreover, President Bush’s March 18, 2003 letter to Congress authorizing the use of force against Iraq, includes the following paragraph:

(2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

Therefore, the Bush administration expressly justified the Iraq war to Congress by representing that Iraq planned, authorized, committed, or aided the 9/11 attacks.

Indeed, Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Ron Suskind reports that the White House ordered the CIA to forge and backdate a document falsely linking Iraq with Muslim terrorists and 9/11 … and that the CIA complied with those instructions and in fact created the forgery, which was then used to justify war against Iraq. And see this.

Suskind also revealed that “Bush administration had information from a top Iraqi intelligence official ‘that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq – intelligence they received in plenty of time to stop an invasion.’ ”

Cheney made the false linkage between Iraq and 9/11 on many occasions.

For example, according to Raw Story, Cheney was still alleging a connection between Iraq and the alleged lead 9/11 hijacker in September 2003 – a year after it had been widely debunked. When NBC’s Tim Russert asked him about a poll showing that 69% of Americans believed Saddam Hussein had been involved in 9/11, Cheney replied:

It’s not surprising that people make that connection.

And even after the 9/11 Commission debunked any connection, Cheney said that the evidence is “overwhelming” that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein’s regime , that Cheney “probably” had information unavailable to the Commission, and that the media was not ‘doing their homework’ in reporting such ties.

Again, the Bush administration expressly justified the Iraq war by representing that Iraq planned, authorized, committed, or aided the 9/11 attacks. See this, this, this.

On December 16, 2005, Bush admitted “There was no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the attack of 9/11″ (and see this video).  However, Bush and Cheney continued to frequently invoke 9/11 as justification for the Iraq war.  And see this. (Cheney finally admitted in 2009 that there was no link.)

A bipartisan Senate Report from 2006 found that Bush misled the press on Iraq link to Al-Qaeda.

The administration’s false claims about Saddam and 9/11 helped convince a large portion of the American public to support the invasion of Iraq. While the focus now may be on false WMD claims, it is important to remember that, at the time, the alleged link between Iraq and 9/11 was at least as important in many people’s mind as a reason to invade Iraq.

Indeed, the false claims about Iraqi WMDs probably would not have gained traction if it wasn’t for the anti-Arab hysteria after September 11th. And the government policy of torture would not have been tolerated if we weren’t misled into thinking that Saddam and Al-Qaeda had formed an unholy, all-powerful alliance on 9/11, and had to be stopped at any cost. Thus, the Saddam-911 deception was a necessary precursor to the administration’s WMD lies and torture policies.

And 2006 polls show that almost 90% of the troops in Iraq are under the mistaken belief that the U.S. mission in that country is “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11 attacks.” In other words, our kids are fighting and dying because of this lie.

U.S. Officials Launched a Systematic Program of Torture Using Specialized Techniques Which Produce False Confessions … to Justify the Iraq War

Not only did Bush, Cheney and other top government officials lie about us into the Iraq war by making a false linkage between Iraq and 9/11, but they carried out a systematic program of torture in order to intentionally create false evidence of that allegation.

Indeed, the entire purpose behind the U.S. torture program was to obtain false confessions.

And the torture techniques used were Communist techniques specifically designed to produce false confessions.

Senator Levin, in commenting on a Senate Armed Services Committee report on torture in 2009, dropped the following bombshell:

With last week’s release of the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinions, it is now widely known that Bush administration officials distorted Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape “SERE” training – a legitimate program used by the military to train our troops to resist abusive enemy interrogations – by authorizing abusive techniques from SERE for use in detainee interrogations. Those decisions conveyed the message that abusive treatment was appropriate for detainees in U.S. custody. They were also an affront to the values articulated by General Petraeus.

 

In SERE training, U.S. troops are briefly exposed, in a highly controlled setting, to abusive interrogation techniques used by enemies that refuse to follow the Geneva Conventions. The techniques are based on tactics used by Chinese Communists against American soldiers during the Korean War for the purpose of eliciting false confessions for propaganda purposes. Techniques used in SERE training include stripping trainees of their clothing, placing them in stress positions, putting hoods over their heads, subjecting them to face and body slaps, depriving them of sleep, throwing them up against a wall, confining them in a small box, treating them like animals, subjecting them to loud music and flashing lights, and exposing them to extreme temperatures. Until recently, the Navy SERE school also used waterboarding. The purpose of the SERE program is to provide U.S. troops who might be captured a taste of the treatment they might face so that they might have a better chance of surviving captivity and resisting abusive and coercive interrogations.

Senator Levin then documents that SERE techniques were deployed as part of an official policy on detainees, and that SERE instructors helped to implement the interrogation programs.  He noted:

The senior Army SERE psychologist warned in 2002 against using SERE training techniques during interrogations in an email to personnel at Guantanamo Bay, because:

[T]he use of physical pressures brings with it a large number of potential negative side effects… When individuals are gradually exposed to increasing levels of discomfort, it is more common for them to resist harder… If individuals are put under enough discomfort, i.e. pain, they will eventually do whatever it takes to stop the pain. This will increase the amount of information they tell the interrogator, but it does not mean the information is accurate. In fact, it usually decreases the reliability of the information because the person will say whatever he believes will stop the pain… Bottom line: the likelihood that the use of physical pressures will increase the delivery of accurate information from a detainee is very low. The likelihood that the use of physical pressures will increase the level of resistance in a detainee is very high… (p. 53).

McClatchy filled in some of the details:

Former senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with the interrogation issue said that Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld demanded that the interrogators find evidence of al Qaida-Iraq collaboration…

 

For most of 2002 and into 2003, Cheney and Rumsfeld, especially, were also demanding proof of the links between al Qaida and Iraq that (former Iraqi exile leader Ahmed) Chalabi and others had told them were there.”

 

It was during this period that CIA interrogators waterboarded two alleged top al Qaida detainees repeatedly — Abu Zubaydah at least 83 times in August 2002 and Khalid Sheik Muhammed 183 times in March 2003 — according to a newly released Justice Department document…

 

When people kept coming up empty, they were told by Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s people to push harder,” he continued.”Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s people were told repeatedly, by CIA . . . and by others, that there wasn’t any reliable intelligence that pointed to operational ties between bin Laden and Saddam . . .

 

A former U.S. Army psychiatrist, Maj. Charles Burney, told Army investigators in 2006 that interrogators at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention facility were under “pressure” to produce evidence of ties between al Qaida and Iraq.

 

“While we were there a large part of the time we were focused on trying to establish a link between al Qaida and Iraq and we were not successful in establishing a link between al Qaida and Iraq,” Burney told staff of the Army Inspector General. “The more frustrated people got in not being able to establish that link . . . there was more and more pressure to resort to measures that might produce more immediate results.”

 

“I think it’s obvious that the administration was scrambling then to try to find a connection, a link (between al Qaida and Iraq),” [Senator] Levin said in a conference call with reporters. “They made out links where they didn’t exist.”

 

Levin recalled Cheney’s assertions that a senior Iraqi intelligence officer had met Mohammad Atta, the leader of the 9/11 hijackers, in the Czech Republic capital of Prague just months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

 

The FBI and CIA found that no such meeting occurred.

In other words, top Bush administration officials not only knowingly lied about a non-existent connection between Al Qaida and Iraq, but they pushed and insisted that interrogators use special torture methods aimed at extracting false confessions to attempt to create such a false linkage.

The Washington Post reported the same year:

Despite what you’ve seen on TV, torture is really only good at one thing: eliciting false confessions. Indeed, Bush-era torture techniques, we now know, were cold-bloodedly modeled after methods used by Chinese Communists to extract confessions from captured U.S. servicemen that they could then use for propaganda during the Korean War.

 

So as shocking as the latest revelation in a new Senate Armed Services Committee report may be, it actually makes sense — in a nauseating way. The White House started pushing the use of torture not when faced with a “ticking time bomb” scenario from terrorists, but when officials in 2002 were desperately casting about for ways to tie Iraq to the 9/11 attacks — in order to strengthen their public case for invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 at all.

 

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Gordon Trowbridge writes for the Detroit News: “Senior Bush administration officials pushed for the use of abusive interrogations of terrorism detainees in part to seek evidence to justify the invasion of Iraq, according to newly declassified information discovered in a congressional probe.

Indeed, one of the two senior instructors from the Air Force team which taught U.S. servicemen how to resist torture by foreign governments when used to extract false confessions has blown the whistle on the true purpose behind the U.S. torture program.

As Truth Out reported last year:

Jessen’s notes were provided to Truthout by retired Air Force Capt. Michael Kearns, a “master” SERE instructor and decorated veteran who has previously held high-ranking positions within the Air Force Headquarters Staff and Department of Defense (DoD).

 

Kearns and his boss, Roger Aldrich, the head of the Air Force Intelligence’s Special Survial Training Program (SSTP), based out of Fairchild Air Force Base in Spokane, Washington, hired Jessen in May 1989. Kearns, who was head of operations at SSTP and trained thousands of service members, said Jessen was brought into the program due to an increase in the number of new SERE courses being taught and “the fact that it required psychological expertise on hand in a full-time basis.”

 

Jessen, then the chief of Psychology Service at the US Air Force Survival School, immediately started to work directly with Kearns on “a new course for special mission units (SMUs), which had as its goal individual resistance to terrorist exploitation.”

 

The course, known as SV-91, was developed for the Survival Evasion Resistance Escape (SERE) branch of the US Air Force Intelligence Agency, which acted as the Executive Agent Action Office for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Jessen’s notes formed the basis for one part of SV-91, “Psychological Aspects of Detention.”

 

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Kearns was one of only two officers within DoD qualified to teach all three SERE-related courses within SSTP on a worldwide basis, according to a copy of a 1989 letter written Aldrich, who nominated him officer of the year.

 

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The Jessen notes clearly state the totality of what was being reverse-engineered – not just ‘enhanced interrogation techniques,’ but an entire program of exploitation of prisoners using torture as a central pillar,” he said. “What I think is important to note, as an ex-SERE Resistance to Interrogation instructor, is the focus of Jessen’s instruction. It is exploitation, not specifically interrogation. And this is not a picayune issue, because if one were to ‘reverse-engineer’ a course on resistance to exploitation then what one would get is a plan to exploit prisoners, not interrogate them. The CIA/DoD torture program appears to have the same goals as the terrorist organizations or enemy governments for which SV-91 and other SERE courses were created to defend against: the full exploitation of the prisoner in his intelligence, propaganda, or other needs held by the detaining power, such as the recruitment of informers and double agents. Those aspects of the US detainee program have not generally been discussed as part of the torture story in the American press.”

 

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Jessen wrote that cooperation is the “end goal” of the detainer, who wants the detainee “to see that [the detainer] has ‘total’ control of you because you are completely dependent on him, and thus you must comply with his wishes. Therefore, it is absolutely inevitable that you must cooperate with him in some way (propaganda, special favors, confession, etc.).”

 

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Kearns said, based on what he has read in declassified government documents and news reports about the role SERE played in the Bush administration’s torture program, Jessen clearly “reverse-engineered” his lesson plan and used resistance methods to

abuse “war on terror” detainees.

So we have the two main Air Force insiders concerning the genesis of the torture program confirming – with original notes – that the whole purpose of the torture program was to extract false confessions.

Indeed, the top interrogation experts from U.S. military and intelligence services say that all torture is lousy at producing actionable intelligence, the only things it is good for are (1) producing false confessions, (2) creating more terrorists, and (3) itself acting as a form of terrorism.

And false confessions were, in fact, extracted.

For example:

(Indeed, the 9/11 Commission Report was largely based on a third-hand account of what tortured detainees said, with two of the three parties in the communication being government employees. And the government went to great lengths to obstruct justice and hide unflattering facts from the  Commission.)

Again, this essay is not focused on questioning the government’s statements about Al Qaeda and 9/11 … it focuses on the false testimony and coercion post-9/11 to justify war against Iraq.

Did Government Officials Have Any Motive?

When criminal prosecutors look assess whether or not a suspect is likely guilty, they determine whether or not he had motive, means and opportunity.

The means and opportunity for top U.S. officials to carry out the war crimes of lying us into war based upon a false linkage between Iraq and 9/11 and to torture people into giving false confessions is a given.  Specifically, top government officials such as President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld had power to take such actions, if they had wanted to.

It has been extensively documented that the White House decided to invade Iraq before 9/11:

Indeed, neoconservatives planned regime change .

This provides evidence of motive by top American officials to create false justifications for a war against Iraq.

In addition, Cheney and Rumsfeld made false claims exaggerating the threat posed by Russia’s weapons in the 1970s to justify huge increases in military spending.  Prosecutors look at previous lies as evidence that the defendant is intentionally lying now. Similarly, Cheney and Rumsfeld’s lies about WMDs in the 1970s add to the mountain of evidence that government officials intentionally lied about Iraqi WMDs.

Moreover, Saddam allegedly offered to leave Iraq:

“Fearing defeat, Saddam was prepared to go peacefully in return for £500million ($1billion)”.

 

“The extraordinary offer was revealed yesterday in a transcript of talks in February 2003 between George Bush and the then Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar at the President’s Texas ranch.”

 

“The White House refused to comment on the report last night. But, if verified, it is certain to raise questions in Washington and London over whether the costly four-year war could have been averted.”

According to the tapes, Bush told Aznar that whether Saddam was still in Iraq or not, “We’ll be in Baghdad by the end of March.” See also this and this.  If true, this adds additional circumstantial evidence that U.S. officials were committed to a war in Iraq even if Saddam Hussein voluntarily left.

But Are They Guilty of War Crimes?

The Nuremberg Tribunal which convicted and sentenced Nazis leaders to death conceived of wars of aggression – i.e. wars not launched in self-defense – defined the following as “crimes against peace”, or war crimes:

(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
(ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i)

The Tribunal considered wars of aggression to be the ultimate war crime, which encompassed all other crimes:

To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.

Judgment of October 1, 1946, International Military Tribunal Judgment and Sentence, 22 IMTTRIALS, supra note 7, at 498, reprinted in 41 AM. J. INT’LL. 172, 186 (1947).

Given that Iraq had no connection with 9/11 and possessed no weapons of mass destruction, the Iraq war was a crime of aggression and – under the standards by which Nazi leaders were convicted by the Nuremberg Tribunal – the American leaders who lied us into that war are guilty of war crimes.

Benjamin Ferencz, a former chief prosecutor for the Nuremberg Trials, declared:

A prima facie case can be made that the United States is guilty of the supreme crime against humanity — that being an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation.

See this, this, and this.

The Chief Prosecutor for the International Criminal Court - Luis Moreno-Ocampo – told the Sunday Telegraph in 2007:

That he would be willing to launch an inquiry and could envisage a scenario in which the Prime Minister and American President George W Bush could one day face charges at The Hague. Luis Moreno-Ocampo urged Arab countries, particularly Iraq, to sign up to the court to enable allegations against the West to be pursued.

As a Japan Times Op/Ed noted in 2009:

In January 2003, a group of American law professors warned President George W. Bush that he and senior officials of his government could be prosecuted for war crimes if their military tactics violated international humanitarian law.

Eminent legal scholars such as former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clarke and Dean of the Massachusetts School of Law and a professor of law Lawrence Velvel have since stated that high-level Bush administration officials did commit war crimes in relation to the Iraq war.

Torture is – of course – a violation of the Geneva Conventions, which make it illegal to inflict mental or physical torture or inhuman treatment. It is clearly-established that waterboarding is torture. The torture was, in fact, systematic, and included widespread sexual humiliation, murder and other unambiguous forms of torture.

Velvel and many other legal experts say that the torture which was carried out after 9/11 is a war crime.

Colin Powell’s former chief of staff stated that Dick Cheney is guilty of war crimes for overseeing torture policies

Matthew Alexander – a former top Air Force interrogator who led the team that tracked down Abu Musab al-Zarqawi – notes that government officials knew they are vulnerable for war crime prosecution:

They have, from the beginning, been trying to prevent an investigation into war crimes.

A Malaysian war crimes commission also found Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and five administration attorneys guilty of war crimes (although but the commission has no power to enforce its judgment).

The United States War Crimes Act of 1996, a federal statute set forth at 18 U.S.C. § 2441, also makes it a federal crime for any U.S. national, whether military or civilian, to violate the Geneva Convention by engaging in murder, torture, or inhuman treatment.

The statute applies not only to those who carry out the acts, but also to those who ORDER IT, know about it, or fail to take steps to stop it. The statute applies to everyone, no matter how high and mighty.

18 U.S.C. § 2441 has no statute of limitations, which means that a war crimes complaint can be filed at any time.

The penalty may be life imprisonment or — if a single prisoner dies due to torture — death. Given that there are numerous, documented cases of prisoners being tortured to death by U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and Afghanistan, that means that the death penalty would be appropriate for anyone found guilty of carrying out, ordering, or sanctioning such conduct.

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 limited the applicability of the War Crimes Act, but still made the following unlawful: torture, cruel or inhumane treatment, murder, mutilation or maiming, intentionally causing serious bodily harm, rape, sexual assault or abuse.

Postscript: A similar analysis could potentially be carried out for Afghanistan and other countries which America has invaded since 9/11.  And indiscriminate drone strikes may well be war crimes … even in countries against which we haven’t officially declared war.

 

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Thu, 10/25/2012 - 12:15 | 2918806 tigsman
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Tyler...George Washington is straying far from your other content. I don't think he's a good fit any longer. Wish you would stop including his posts going forward.

Fri, 10/26/2012 - 16:14 | 2922574 headless blogger
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It seems relevant to the bigger picture. GW has written some pretty good articles. People may not always agree, but why in the world would you want to shut down opinions and informative articles?

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 03:09 | 2917892 cpt crash
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9/11 inside and outside job. Bush admin was run by the same Jews that are screaming for Iranian blood today. Israel screams for muslims to be obliterated and turns christians and muslims against one another. What an age old tactic used throughout history. There are no Muslims taking over the united states either. Do you see them overrunning the TV stations, politics or business?

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 07:20 | 2918020 New_Meat
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We see with Benghazi how difficult it is to keep any secrets in any .gov operation.  I've always been amused with the "inside job" run by the Bush administration.  On one hand, Bush is stupid, otoh, he and Dick are brilliant.

Do you see the visit logs at the WH?

- Ned

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 00:39 | 2917800 Mark Noonan
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Only flaw in the theory is that President Bush never used 9/11 to justify the campaign in Iraq. 

Going after the Saddam regime was never a specific response to 9/11 - it was always a general resposne to the fundamental problem which 9/11 revealed:  that there was a nexus of terrorism and terror-sponsoring States which were using asymetrical war against the United States and our allies.  While a lot could be done by targeting the specific people and groups who carried out terrorist attacks it would never solve the actual problem because their were (and are) State actors backing the terrorist persons and groups.  The plain fact of the matter is that if there was a nation we should have avoided invading it was Afghanistan far more than it was Iraq - because bin Laden, himself, was a trivial character and the Afghan regime, bad as it was, lacked the means to be a world-class terror sponsor. 

The ultimate enemy in this war on Islamism was, is and always will be in Tehran - but it was mistakenly viewed in government circles post-9/11 that we had no case for war against Iran.  It was also figured that if we could take down the Saddam regime and instal a reasonable fascimile of decent government in Baghdad that this would go a long way towards undermining the appeal of Islamism.  The curious thing is, it almost worked - the abortive revolution of 2009 in Iran was a direct outgrowth of all we had done 2003-2009 in Iraq.  The pity was that when the Iranian people rose up we were governmend by peopl who had absurdly campaigned on the issue that Iraq was a distraction and that the Iranian government should be negotiated with.

We are, in a large measure, back to square one, now.  The Afghan campaign has become a failure while our efforts in Iraq have been thrown away - meanwhile, the Iranian regime has been strengthened in prestige and now puts intense pressure on Iraq and the Gulf States to toe the line...all the while fighting hard to save their client in Damascus (more out of a desire to save their allies in Lebanon than out of particular concern for Assad's regime).    And the fundamental problem which was revealed on 9/11 continues:  a nexus of terrorists and State-sponsors who are engaging in an asymetric war with us.  Eventually, this nexus will strike at us, again, on our own soil in a 9/11-style attack. 

My view is that at the moment we can do no good in the Muslim world - too many terrible mistakes have been made and, additionally, we're too broke for any sort of major effort in the area.  We should seek the msot swift means of complete military, diplomatic and economic withdrawal from the region.  If we do this there is a 1-1000 chance that it will cool off the Islamists enough to leave us alone - but it is more likely that it will actually embolden them to strike again and even harder.  As that is the most likely case then in the next go round we should steel ourselves to the necessity of going to the center of the problem and dealing with it for good:  Tehran.

Be that as it may, do understand this if you understand nothing else:  Islam hates us not because of what we do but because of what we are.  We are not Islam - and yet we are powerful and not under Islamic rule.  In Muslim theology - especially the theology of the real fanatics - this is not just a bad state of affairs but an immoral afront to God, who gave over physical rule of the world to Muslims.  They will never, ever stop hating us and attacking us.  This war has been going on since the completely unprovoked attack by Islam upon the then-Christian West in the 7th century and it will keep going on until either Islam or the West is destroyed.  Make absolutely no mistake about it - you can try to dress it up all you want; slice and dice it with post-modernist claptrap; construct all the theories in the world to show that this or that particular act by the United States brought it all on...but there will remain, always, the fact that they attacked us out of the blue for no other reason than we are not Muslim...and I'm not talking about 9/11 but about that first foray in to then-Christian Palestine in 633 on through to Tours, Manzikert, Constantinople, Vienna, etc.  Again and again and again without any provocation at all Muslims have lunged at the non-Muslims for no other reason than their victims weren't Muslim.  You can subscribe, if you like to "bad, old Zionists" causing the trouble...but the real trouble is in the Muslims, not in their victims.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 21:47 | 2917465 New_Meat
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HEY, GW!

What LAW was broken?  Cite specifics, not blather.

If you wish an indictment (and I and all would support factual investigation. there is enough nonsense and chaff goin' on).

Of course, with your headline, I'm sure that you can make a cogent case.  Cuz' you are on the case.

AND, you don't have to be a DA.

JUST DO IT.

Then you can look into Bengazi.  'course, that will take 3 or 8 weeks.

- Ned

I know that you are whimpering in the corner wrt Bengazi.  cuz u know the truth of the underlying policy and you can't bring yourself to be courageous in the face of the ongoing fact-storm.

C'mon--a REAL BLOGGER WOULD!!!

{taunting aside, your following that story would make you the Wood or Bern, 'cuz the MSM are entirely avoiding the issue}

{{and an integrity thing-do  you play or just kvetch?  At least a 'skosh of play?  Any contacts in any way to be corageous and link up to someone who is bleeding the State e-mails?}}

{{{I say that this is a defining moment}}}

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:08 | 2917101 SWIFT 760
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PNAC & AIPAC and every stinking kikenvermin in between. Get the fucking zionist out of USA. 

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 22:00 | 2917499 New_Meat
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"Get the fucking zionist out of USA. "

and the MBz, then I might agree with ya.

- NED

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:38 | 2917099 TNTARG
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Consequences are very bad worlwide.

I remember having heard some of them asking "Why do they hate us so much?"

I think this is a hell of an answer.

I was brushing my teeth at the moment the alleged airplane crushed on the second tower. I thought: "No way the americans couldn't stop something like that" and I knew right from the beginning it was all a terrible mise-en-scene. Then we assisted to one of the ugliest pages in Human History. We saw West "leaders" suscribing Bush Administration's absolutely unbelievable statements and supporting unjustified actions in Afghanistan, Irak... And the follow of the American and Western debacle, downfall of the Western moral authority.

If we feel deceived all around the World by this perverse behavior think how must feel people who lost family in NY, firemen, thousands and thousands of people killed for nothing in those countries... Too bad. There's no turnover from such actions, I'm afraid. When time passes it's gonna be remembered as the fact that buried the US potential of leading the Post Cold War era. They may get away with it in their lifetime but the US won't get away with it from History.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:54 | 2917172 treasurefish
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I was in the US Army during a field training exercise at Fort Hood when it happened.  It was our biggest training event of the year, and we spent months planning it in advance.  When I heard about it over radio traffic, I thought it was part of the scenario.  We were living on post at Fort Sill, OK at the time.  My wife was stuck outside the gates trying to pick up our kids from school, and they were huddled inside the school gym on the installation - scared out of their wits.  Mass chaos was the order of the day.

I received orders to deploy to Iraq pretty soon thereafter.  My mother asked if I supported this war, and I dutifully replied that I wanted to get the guys who blew up the Twin Towers.  I am glad that I did not sacrifice myself for my country (knowing what I know now), but I regret that many of my compadres did.  I will never forget the horror of that day or the events afterwards.

As a side note:  My bank forgave my student loans because I was serving during 9/11 - all $25,000 of it.  I considered it a "gift" that was not taxable.  The IRS came after me two years later, and demanded their pound of flesh - along with interest and penalties.  I wasn't making a whole lot in the military, and had to borrow from my mother in law.  I was bitter about the way the government treated someone who was going to die for them, but I decided, like Warrick Dunn, to be better and not bitter.  I turned my rage against the government into fuel, and I am now very successful in life.  I am also happy every day I am no longer "serving my country."  Cocksuckers!

I wish I was just brushing my teeth at the time like you, but everyone has a different path to take in life.  Too bad?  For the believers who believed in their country at the time, yes, it is too bad - not just for the dead ones.  Then again, who isn't dead now?  I think we all are.  America has changed, and there's no going back until the government is changed.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 22:00 | 2917494 New_Meat
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+13B

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 22:03 | 2917504 treasurefish
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Thank you brother.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 15:19 | 2919375 DaveyJones
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thanks for your comments.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:00 | 2917086 The Alarmist
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Interesting GW, but since you do not qualify as a "Competent Authority," the best you can say is that top Bush Administration Officials may be guilty of war crimes. Merely voicing that opinion might be enough to qualify you for a free trip to Gitmo on the only flights that need no "No Fly List" clearance.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 18:33 | 2917019 Wakanda
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Thanks GW, instead of "Remember the Maine", we will "Remember building 7".

The Second American Revolution, unfolding now in a gerrymandered voting district near you!

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 18:28 | 2917011 nmewn
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"And at 2:40 p.m. on September 11th..."

2001 or 2012?

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 18:28 | 2917007 atomicwasted
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I retain hope that someday Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Yoo and the whole rotten lot of them will spend the rest of their lives in orange jumpsuits in the US equivalent of Spandau Prison.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 20:03 | 2917209 Seer
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They were just the ones to execute the plan...  This was all set up a LONG time ago.  The sanctions placed on Iraq post Desert Storm I were meant to lock down Iraqi oil: I believe the West (Britain) had 75-year oil contracts signed back in 1917 (do the math).  The hope was that they could oust Saddam- didn't work: lots of story-telling (propaganda) built up over the years; and, as usual, it took getting the "left" to sign off on the war (buy into the the "humanitarian" propaganda BS).

While religions seem to be forever placed forward as the driving force, it's ALWAYS about resources, religion is just a propaganda piece.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 17:36 | 2916889 notadouche
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I think the US actually won the war in Iraq as far as governments are concerned.  Very unusual to convict winner's of a war.  If Germany had won WWII there would not have been Nuremburg. Not saying it's right and correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't it sort of  been that way for the entire history of warfare.  Now if the Iraqi's had won, then well America may very well had been called to answer but that didn't happen.  

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:12 | 2917112 Seer
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I gave you a Green because your logic is sound.  People really ought to concentrate on logic more than emotion...

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 18:05 | 2916955 DaveyJones
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They paid a heavy price but the Iraqis won the real war when they figured out their new puppet leader and parliment were only set up to turn back the clock and return the oil rights back to the foreign corporations and then rejected it.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 18:03 | 2916947 Karl von Bahnhof
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The war did not ended yet.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 17:33 | 2916881 Tango in the Blight
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War crimes investigations are only for the losers. The winners get victory parades and medals on their chests. Always been like that in history.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:14 | 2917115 Seer
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And the BIG winners get to hold perpetual parades... (reliving BS over and over and over...)

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 17:31 | 2916874 knightowl77
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mehhhhhhh

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:34 | 2916721 BeetleBailey
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Pound away Georgie.....keep smacking the crap out of these bastard political motherfuckers. The shit-eating spies too.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:39 | 2916710 Pseudo Anonym
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ok, i agree

U.S. Officials Guilty of War Crimes for Using 9/11 As a False Justification for the Iraq War

but what about their zionist handlers, i.e. hofjuden, are they not guilty of war crimes?  that's what i want to know

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:31 | 2917148 GAAPpreNixon
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YES! And the "handlers" are ACTUALLY the people with the most power. As has been stated in other comments, the only thing that keeps the lid on the public so it won't go berserk because of wanton treason, conspiracy and murder is the MEDIA PROPAGANDA.

They KNEW 9/11 was going to happen because they wanted it to happen and made it happen. 9/11 itself was a false flag that was daisy chained to the rest of the lies for war profiteering and empire.

There is court testimony by CIA asset Susan Lindauer that proves unequiviocally that many officials in the government KNEW 9/11 was coming and that it would entail aircraft AND explosives in buildings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43zl4fzDQg

THE MEDIA keeps a lid on this explosive information so therefore the MEDIA is the ROOT of the ROT in the USA.

 

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 20:09 | 2917223 Seer
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"MEDIA is the ROOT of the ROT in the USA."

POWER is the root of the rot.  MEDIA is how POWER gets us to buy stories.  Keep in mind that many of the atrocities can occur without participation (passive or not).  It's just that in the US it's a BIG sale, lots of macho burly fucks to suck it up and work hard and die for the empire; with this hook you can intimidate people into paying for protection (aka "defense").

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:29 | 2916689 Marley
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OK, you invaded a sovereign country and killed a million people.  No problem, just don't do it again.....K?  Hey, is that a joint in your pocket.  OK bub.. mandatory life in jail.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 17:50 | 2916926 Treeplanter
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You're lying for the goatfuckers.  What a putz. 

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 21:04 | 2917327 Marley
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Funny, I could say the same thing about you.  They were people.  Living, breathing, with children, mothers and fathers, hopes and desires like you.  Not some first shooter game on your pc.

So, do you really mean what you said?  Or are you just pretending to be a tough guy/gal?

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:20 | 2916655 Goldilocks
Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:18 | 2916650 carambar
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What's new in this article?

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:17 | 2916649 carambar
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What's new in this article?

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:10 | 2916622 Chupacabra-322
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We have a criminal government with criminal elements as part of it who do not give one fat, friggin' damn about the ordinary people of the United States. Isn't that obvious by now?

This country is being brought down. That is no accident. That is the result of plotting and scheming for MONEY, POWER and CONTROL of anything that isn't nailed down, nationally and globally.

Now according to the logic that one can kill or assassinate people, and in this instance American citizens without trial, and with Habeus Corpus becoming an old memory of once upon a time and heinous Torture still being applauded on every talk show available by the likes of a very smarmy, sick-in-the-head-and-heart former Vice President and his daughter and many, many more, it seems that the legal fabric of our nation has been irrevocably shredded and torn.

So where does that leave us? Do we run out to purchase AK -47's or 57's, or whatever the models are now, and start tracking and shooting all these criminal bastards to save ourselves and our nation before it is too late and we have become a fully fascist nation like Germany and Italy were under Hitler and Mussolini, respectively?

I am certainly not advocating this, but to me, when this President, as his predecessor did, makes decisions that clearly violate our Constitutional protections as citizens and as human beings, a message is being sent that is the wrong message, and that is WE ARE A NATION WITHOUT RESPECT FOR THE LAW; A NATION WITH LAWS THAT CAN BE VIOLATED, especially if one has power, position and enough money, and enough corrupt idiots in Congress. AND THE HELL WITH YOU.

What I'm seeing is that if this keeps up, and the people of this slumbering nation ever stop watching the insipid, untruthful television news and wake up at last because what is happening all around, including to each of us individually, can no longer be ignored, then our hearts and our minds and our bodies may have to be put on the line.

And that's the bottom line, whether we like it or not.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:20 | 2917128 Seer
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While shooting the bastards might bring momentary satisfaction, there's the continuing issue of what we do with the rest of our lives...

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/02/real-revolution.html

It's my belief that our energy is too precious to waste on them and and their schemes to perpetuate their genes.  Either get busy living or get busy dying... (get busy living without Them)

Oh, and ALWAYS remember (pass this on to future generations): BIG = FAIL!

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:14 | 2917116 outofhere
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WE ARE A NATION WITHOUT RESPECT FOR THE LAW; A NATION WITH LAWS THAT CAN BE VIOLATED

It is no wonder the citizens of the middle east view the US as the "Great Satan"

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:22 | 2917134 Seer
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Laws aren't exempt from being evil.

There has always been two sets of laws...

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:20 | 2917130 outofhere
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The real tragedy is that we, the innocent citizens of the US, are blamed for the actions of the oligarchy that controls the war machine!

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 20:12 | 2917229 Seer
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One cannot claim innocence if one votes for the [very] System.  It's WAY past time to plead ignorance...

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 22:41 | 2917623 outofhere
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Sorry my friend but neither YOU nor I can cast a vote for the oligarchs that control those ELECTED. 

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:29 | 2916701 Karl von Bahnhof
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Xactly people. Clean the house or you will be dumped. They dont need you anymore.
In the past, internal satisfaction of US population was important to keep geopolitical game in the favor of your rulers. After USSR crash it is not necessary. And 911 did prove it.
On the opposite, US population is merely an obstruction now for your TPTBs.
This explains all the FEDs moves including QE ( which impacts more foreigners than US citizens for now) NDAA, DHS ( ministry of internal affairs) TSA and law demolition - this will be the main issue.
And once external expansion will be no more possible (which is already true - see Syria and Iran) then TPTB will turn inwards. And this will be not fun.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:42 | 2916745 DaveyJones
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well said sir. Iceland all over.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:04 | 2916606 Martel
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The whole world knows this, has known long time. Many knew even before the war. Immediately after the 9/11, there was a MASSIVE goodwill towards the U.S. around the world. Iraqi war changed all that. It did not help that the U.S. leadership badmouthed some of your allies that were a voice of reason. Surrender monkeys? French fries into "Freedom fries" ...oh, come on! Remember what kind of treatment Dixie Chicks got?

Before the war, I remember Colin Powell presenting sketches of "Iraqi mobile chemical laboratories" and thinking, "Is this really the best the U.S. intelligence can come up with?". You guys can photograph matchbox-sized objects from space, but pics of Iraqi WMD labs are drawn by hand, just like those other elusive beasts, the Yeti and Loch Ness monster.

It is surprising the U.S. general public still lives in denial. There was no case, but there was a motive. Neocon oil guys at the helm, no clue about int'l politics, but lots of money up for grabs.

Next stop Iran?

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:28 | 2917142 Seer
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"Freedom Fries"... even the originator of this propaganda piece, House Rep Walter Jones (R), came clean and ended up denouncing the war.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 15:48 | 2916574 Leto II
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They disguise it, Hypnotize it
Television made you buy it

Mezmerize the simple minded
Propaganda leaves us blinded

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 19:29 | 2917145 Seer
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Edward Bernays is god (of all this)...

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 16:36 | 2916728 Citxmech
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I am gross and perverted
Im obsessed n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I am the tool of the government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think Im delicious
With the stuff that I say
I am the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I am the slime oozin out
From your tv set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't got for help...no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right, folks..
Don't touch that dial

Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin along on your livinroom floor

I am the slime from your video
Cant stop the slime, people, lookit me go

- F. Zappa

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