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“If Obama Gets Re-elected Gold Is Going To Go Through The Roof”

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Gold edged up $0.50 or 0.06% yesterday and closed at $1,709.50. Silver hit a high of $32.118 and pulled back but still finished with a gain of 0.05%.



Cross Currency Table – (Bloomberg)

Gold inched up on Wednesday but traders remain cautious ahead of the nonfarm payrolls report and the imminent US presidential election.

The devastation of Hurricane Sandy will be a further blow to the already fragile U.S. economy. The destruction of property and vital infrastructure - two of the vital components in the wealth of a nation is negative for the economy. The last thing the over indebted families and close to default U.S. government needs are more very expensive reconstruction works. Reconstruction and 'stimulus' has to be paid for either by the tax payer in the form of taxes or a further increase in the money supply and inflation. 

Event risk is high with the aforementioned issues including a change of power in China and multiple policy meetings at various central banks.

Today, the September eurozone unemployment figures released were 11.6% up from 11.5% in August. 

The US fiscal cliff involving steep government spending cuts and tax hikes looms in January and is likely to support gold at these levels and lead to higher gold prices in the coming weeks.

Violence in South Africa’s mining industry continues.  The police fired tear gas and rubber bullets on strikers and protesters at top platinum producer Amplats today.

The Financial Times had an interesting article that suggested that Mitt Romney is a "threat to the gold price" (see news) and quoted an executive in a jewellery group who said that “if Obama gets re-elected gold is going to go through the roof.”

The truth is that, gold is likely to go much higher in the course of the 45th President's 4 year term - whether there is a President Obama or a President Romney.

The article suggested that gold investors would vote for Mitt Romney due to concerns about "potential" currency debasement and the US government’s indebtedness and that the Republican Party’s rhetoric of deficit reduction appeals to them:


Gold Spot $/oz, 20 Days – 30 Minutes – (Bloomberg)

“It is therefore ironic that the single greatest risk to gold at the moment is probably a Romney victory in next Tuesday’s presidential elections.

“A win by Romney is generally seen by investors as a downside risk for gold,” says Joni Teves of UBS. “Nobody wants to do anything until the elections are out of the way.” 

A surprise win by Romney could lead to very short term gold weakness but the scale of the fiscal and monetary challenges facing the White House and Federal Reserve mean that the down side risk is short term and limited and investors should continue to fade the noise and focus on the long term diversification benefits of gold.

The FT continues

“History supports the case. As James Steel of HSBC notes, gold’s most dramatic rallies – in 1980 and 2011 – have occurred with Democrats in the White House (Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama). And if Mr Romney can succeed in bringing down the deficit, that could lead to a stronger dollar and therefore weaker gold.”

History supports the case somewhat. It is important to point out that gold rose for the 8 years of George Bush’s Republican Presidency. Many gold buyers would be concerned that Republican rhetoric regarding deficits is just that - rhetoric.

“But the real “Romney risk” for the yellow metal has nothing to do with fiscal policy. Instead, traders and investors are focusing on the likelihood that if Mr Romney wins the November 6 election, he would replace Ben Bernanke with a more hawkish chairman of the Federal Reserve when the latter’s term expires in January 2014.

If that means a change in direction from the Fed’s current experimental and super-accommodative monetary policy, gold could suffer. Recall the sharp sell-offs earlier this year when expectations of quantitative easing were deferred.”



Gold Spot $/oz, 01 November 2010-31 October 2012 – (Bloomberg)

Gold will not suffer when there is a change and a move away from ultra, ultra loose monetary policies. As was seen in 1980, gold’s secular bull market is likely to end if the Federal Reserve again achieves positive real interest rates.

As was seen in 1980, gold will only fall towards the end of the interest rate tightening cycle - this could take many years. 

“Likewise, an Obama victory may be the green flag gold bulls have been waiting for.”

The 45th U.S. President is less relevant to the gold price than the wider global monetary, macroeconomic, systemic and geopolitical fundamentals - all of which remain extremely positive for gold.  

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NEWS
Gold Set to Trim Monthly Loss as Holdings Climb, Dollar Weakens - Bloomberg

Gold to snap 4-month winning run; U.S. data, election eyed - Reuters

Gold futures settle higher, back above $1,710 – Market Watch

Eastern U.S. Struggles Back to Life After Sandy Onslaught - Bloomberg

COMMENTARY
“If Obama gets re-elected gold is going to go through the roof” – The Financial Times

Why do the Germans want their gold back? – Market Watch

Sell your euros and hoard gold as 'war' looms, says forecaster – The Independent

America's Great Endangered Species: "The 99%" – Zero Hedge

Big Money Is Bullish On Gold – Gold and Silver Blog

 

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Wed, 10/31/2012 - 22:28 | 2936500 ArrestBobRubin
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Stories like this are pretty silly and serve no good purpose.

Gold and silver will continue to be held down as their natural trajectory would insure the rapid destruction of the interests and paradigm of those who control fiat paper. Someday they'll lose the ability to stifle PM, but frankly I see nothing in the short term that diminishes their ability or interest in doing so.

This is hardly bad news, it's a blessing. The time is coming when the physical market dictates the terms. But we're not there yet. The upside is huge: more time to accumulate ounces at ridiculously low prices.

Take what the Defense gives you and work your plan. Or get your expectations out of phase here and become disappointed and frustrated. There's zero basis to think the cartel is just going to go away yet, so there's no reason to get torqued. Don't get ahead of where things really are, it's a fool's mission.

Obama or Romney, it makes no difference to this space. If you want to win, it's simple: stick with dollar cost averaging in gold and silver. Buy all the physical you can reasonably afford, month in and month out.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 22:10 | 2936460 pragmatic hobo
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“If Obama Gets Re-elected Gold Is Going To Go Through The Roof”

Ah, fuck it ... I'll be voting for Obamma then ...

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 21:32 | 2936366 deerhunter
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It matters not what gold is worth if you cannot buy food with it.  I have been feeding the squirrels in the back yard this fall and the CO2 pistol is handy when the lights go out for good.  I think we are about to find out what Americans are made of in how they deal with rebuilding after Sandy.  I went down to Tuscaloosa and ran a chain saw for a week after the tornadoes.  There was very little looting down there but then again I think the deep south would be a bad place to practice your looting skills.  I do know this that when it came to running a chain saw I figured out I wasn't 20 years old any more by the middle of the second day.  4 G's folks,  God, guns, guts and a garden i think are coming soon to a county near you. 

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 21:42 | 2936393 DavosSherman
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I like your 4 G's but you may want to "Google" panning for gold in Zimbabwe to pay for food.

PS Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3LdNxV0yPM

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 21:08 | 2936292 Joebloinvestor
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Any incoming president is gonna get a shit sack of an economy.

However, confidence (which Barry does not instill) has an effect.

Reality gets kicked down the road as long as they can print.

Gold is getting repatriated because there is gonna be a reset.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:53 | 2936243 devo
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My take: they are suppressing gold prior to the election. After the election, gold will be allowed to rise and stocks allowed to fall.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:36 | 2936186 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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WTF is Romney going to do?  Raise rates? 

That would be bullish for gold anyway.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:50 | 2936235 DavosSherman
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"WTF is Romney going to do?  Raise rates?"

NO ONE CAN RAISE RATES.  If they stop printing they default, the entire fucking system implodes.  If they print rates stay low.

And one more thing: 90% of derivatives are, drum roll...Interest rate swaps.  With 1.6 quadrillion in derivatives.  Think about that.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 18:21 | 2935857 redd_green
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“But the real “Romney risk” for the yellow metal has nothing to do with fiscal policy. Instead, traders and investors are focusing on the likelihood that if Mr Romney wins the November 6 election, he would replace Ben Bernanke with a more hawkish chairman of the Federal Reserve when the latter’s term expires in January 2014.

 

Surely you MUST be joking?  The federal reserve chairman is a figurehead.   This articl goes against just about everything written on ZH.   Maybe the authors are joking?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 19:42 | 2936032 DavosSherman
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" if Mr Romney wins the November 6 election, he would replace Ben Bernanke with a more hawkish chairman of the Federal Reserve when the latter’s term expires in January 2014. 

Surely you MUST be joking?  The federal reserve chairman is a figurehead.   This articl goes against just about everything written on ZH.   Maybe the authors are joking?"

"Surely you MUST be joking?"

+1 !!

They're fucking clueless.  They haven't done their math.  4th Grade math with some extra zeros.

It is print the deficit---or default.

Any fuckhead who stammers bond vigilante and Dove Fed's are fucked in the head.  High interest rates are a stake in a vampires heart.

These people who wrote this shit have no fucking clue, they were lucky to pick gold, but aside from that they're fucking clueless shitheads, morons.  Absolute fucking morons.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 17:29 | 2935732 DeficitAlchemist
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It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican it went up during bush because he built massive defecits tax cuts, bailouts and wars etc..... neither can prevent the need for further printing..

 

The Snowball is huge and halfway down the hill already , the Village is going to get destroyed.. Even if Ron Paul was elected the detox would be extreme and very painful and the voters would hit the chicken button and demand stimulus morphine rather than take the 'multicycle binge' pain... 

It is merely a matter of degree and a minor short term trade possibly against the long run inevitability..

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 17:27 | 2935725 Heyoka Bianco
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Please to be choosing one hysterical meme or another: either gold is "going through the roof" or it's a "completely manipulated market". I'm inclined to the latter, and the scenario for an explosion to the upside(a fiat collapse) strangely assumes that market will somehow still be operating in the midst of an economic holocaust.

The Soviet Union essentially kicked the can of economic collapse for 40+ years, and they're a bunch of financial donkeys compared to these thievein' weasels. This article can be filed with all this guy's:

http://gainspainscapital.com/

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:11 | 2936103 nofluer
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"strangely assumes that market will somehow still be operating in the midst of an economic holocaust."

WHICH markets? Markets WILL be working - without markets people don't eat. Without markets, people freeze to death in the winter. The markets using fiat will probably NOT be working. PM marrkets will be working - PM markets will probably be the basis of the economy along with other commodities.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 17:15 | 2935707 passwordis
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So gold is going to explode if Obama is reelected. I thought it was going to explode when QE3 was announced or when Greece defaulted or when it passes $1650.. or when cows can fly.

 After following PMs for almost 10 years now, I'm pretty much convinced that we are going to see more of the same.   A relatively slow and steady rise over many more years.  I think people waiting for a huge spike event are underestimating the banks and Governments.

  I don't believe any report that says the government has "this" much gold and the banks have "this" much and there is 100 times as many contracts as there are ounces of physical.  It would not surprise me if the crooks have an endless supply of Gold stock piled in secret underground locations just waiting to be introduced into market anytime they feel like it.

  A certian segment of society has been trading fiat for gold and silver for many many decades. Eventually the bankers and owners will all be long gold. That's been the plan for a very long time. Use fiat to steal all the metals until the day the public demands a return to "sound money"... in the mean time manipulate and short the market in order to increase your holdings.

   Those holding gold and silver will be the winners for sure but who's to say we are anywhere near that point. It might go on for another five ten or twenty years.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:24 | 2936148 DavosSherman
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"I'm pretty much convinced that we are going to see more of the same.   A relatively slow and steady rise over many more years."

You are flat out wrong.  It'll go parabolic.  As debt goes parabolic so does gold.  Money IS debt.  Everyday they have to print more to pay yesturday's interest.  We're in the expoential phase.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2012/10/26_G...

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 14:54 | 2938377 passwordis
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You are flat out wrong.

 

 I did'nt  claim to be right. I said I am pretty much convinced that the people controlling these things can probably keep doing it for a very long time.  If you disagree, that's fine. I'll be better off if a parabolic event happens sooner rather than later.

The people writing these articles are always predicting what where and when and they are always wrong.  Jim Sinclair is about the most level headed of them all and he is still consistently wrong with his timing. It's as if these very smart people discount the fact that we are playing with a stacked deck and the old fundamentals don't seem to apply these days.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:15 | 2936112 nofluer
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"or when cows can fly"

I will alert my herds-person to tether the cows to trees at night. The chickens already fly so no precautions need be taken there.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 17:40 | 2935758 Tango in the Blight
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At least when you get some gold your money increases. If you put it in a bank account it slowly decreases due to the two-headed monster of ZIRP and inflation. If you invest in the market POOF IT'S GONE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmFo-LKHGY0

So why can't people get their heads around the fact that there's nothing left but gold and other hard assets?

I bet most of the investing hardasses here who are bragging about their gains on the market invest Other People's Money and not their own.

And you know the problem with both socialism and casino capitalism is that sooner or later you are going to run out of OPM.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 17:27 | 2935723 Transformer
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Hear Hear!!  And what happens next? I'm guessing......

I think you are dead on about the Elites as individuals.  They are probably the biggest stackers.  How much gold you think the Bush's have in their Paraguay hideout? (estimated over 1,000,000 acres)  More than a few ounces I bet.

That rocket ride to the moon is gonna happen any day now!!

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:10 | 2936097 Bear
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Plus 200,000 more purchased in 2005-6 by Bush Sr.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 17:13 | 2935705 Roandavid
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From your keyboard to God's ear.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 17:03 | 2935688 rawsienna
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Gold will/should go up with a Obama victory but is very likely to get crushed (short term) if Romney wins. Gold only has value as an "alternative" currency or inflation hedge and given Romney's position of the FED and its use of balance sheet, would be very careful about being long gold. 

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:22 | 2936141 nofluer
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Gold only has value as an "alternative" currency or inflation "hedge"

Sorry. Not correct. Gold is a STORE of wealth. It doesn't matter if the price in fiat goes up or down. That simply reflects the value of the fiat at the moment gainst the fixed value of PM. ie it is not gold that goes up and down - but fiat. So if the PRICE (in fiat) of gold drops to $200/, you will still be able to buy as much with it as you can buy with it at $1700/ (allowing for the settling period as fiat price readjusts to value.)

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 19:45 | 2936040 THECOMINGDEPRESSION
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Stupid post, like romney is going to make a difference with the deficit..There is no magical cure to stop the freight train of fiscal collapse

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:11 | 2936105 Bear
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Better with one foot on the brake than two on the throttle.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:35 | 2936185 gtb
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Brakes?  What fuckin' brakes?  You're kiddin', right?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:23 | 2936147 nofluer
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Depends on who you want to throttle.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 16:43 | 2935644 Jugdish
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We need another fuckin bailout. This damn country has gone to shit. More liquidity, more fuckin stimulus, more infastructure, more tv programming, more obamaphones, more voting machines, more shit, more volts, more of fuckin everything. YAAAAA!!!!

Corzine/Orzag (D) - 2016 !!! YAAAA!!!

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 16:22 | 2935606 KingTut
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It's important to remember that Volker didn't just raise interest rates, he actively manipulated the price of gold at the same time.  Even so, gold averaged $350 over the eighties, a high plateau compared to the $35 of 1971.  It is likely that gold was held down throughout the 1980s and 90s by gold leasing programs. Of course, it didn't hurt that there was a gigantic bubble in US Treasuries, the new reserve of global CBs.  What changed in 2001 when the gold bull market began?  More than likely the gold reserves, the source of the leasing, were becoming dangersouly depleted.

If James Turk is correct, and HALF the western gold reserves are gone, gold leasing will go down in history as one of the stupidest policies ever conveived.

 

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 16:00 | 2935546 Uncle Remus
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It'll have to stand in line...

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:38 | 2935484 HurricaneSeason
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Romney wants to add another $200 billion a year towards the military and there is no solution to the current deficit, other than bringing factories back from China. I don't see Mit turning things around.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:12 | 2935375 SILVERGEDDON
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Run the printing presses until they squeal like Bernanke getting plowed by Turbo Timmie.

Hand every citizen a billion dollars, and tell them to stimulate the economy.

Add the deficit to the balance sheet, 'cause it's only paper, not reality, right ?

Right ?

Problem solved.

Bernanke will wave his little magic stink finger at the debt, and it will go away.

 

Probably to Kansas, because there's no place like home, there's no place like home. 

Pay off the mistakes of the overlords who were so much smarter than you, Middle Ass America !

We, the one percent, fucked you - real good. 

Bye bye, got a plane to catch to China - they gots a lot more sheep to fleece waiting for us.......................................................

 

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:06 | 2935370 Tango in the Blight
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Spend your money doing things you like doing with the ones you love and invest in friendships and good relations with your family. At least you will have good memories when all of your material posessions are gone and you will have some people who have even the slightest care that you exist around you. It's a wonderful life bitchez!

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 16:45 | 2935651 Jugdish
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Invest in booze and gatorade and read newspapers.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:33 | 2936180 gtb
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Newspapers suck...

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:51 | 2935303 silverserfer
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Goldcorpse

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:48 | 2935293 dumpster
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more yadda yadda by the making stuff up as they go along .. to sound  awsome for the subscribers $250 please..

the gold core guy who must have a notion to guess into the darkness

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:45 | 2935274 old naughty
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So, you want all the swing votes go to Obama?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:44 | 2935270 Lost Wages
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I like how some people still see a difference between Obama & Romney.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 16:22 | 2935598 Uncle Remus
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Dat's rayciss...

 

"Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!"

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:50 | 2935517 imbrbing
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I enjoy sitting in a room with my popcorn and watch a red guy/blue guy "fight". The things they think are the issues is hilarious.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:29 | 2935449 akak
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The only difference I can see between the two is that one is black, and the other is even blacker.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:23 | 2935427 Wakanda
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It's almost quaint.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:41 | 2935247 Quinvarius
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The long terms bulls know it doesn't matter who wins.  There is no way out of this financial mess but to print or execute it.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 17:36 | 2935748 DosZap
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“If Obama Gets Re-elected Gold Is Going To Go Through The Roof”                           IF he get's re-elected it won't matter,Romney may not be much different, BUT, and huge BUT, HIS BASE IS. He cannot, and will not be able to run roughshod over Americans as Obama has...............he will pay the piper ASAP.   Obama flat out could care less, he is a Muslim,in Christian trappings(loosely termed,since it's Black Liberation Theology based).He hates America, as does Moochelle. A Lame Duck 4yrs w/ O, and you best head out or buckle up. Either way, it will be a disaster.
Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:08 | 2935376 Panafrican Funk...
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Correct as usual.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Never mind the headlines and monkeying, the numbers taken right from the Congressional Budget Office and the U.S. Treasury Department show a 105% debt to gdp ratio.  Various European governmental entities were kind enough to give us a preview of what's to come.  There is no political solution left that will actually work.  Here are the real options:

1.  Eat the shit sandwich (hawk), and have that result in a fail (revenue loss moving at a quicker rate than liability loss).

2.  Continue eating poisonous candy (dove), and have that result in a fail (revenue gain moving at a slower rate than liability gain).

And this assumes nothing catastrophic befalls us in the interim, which as Miss Sandy pointed out, is a pretty fucking shaky assumption.  

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:15 | 2936114 Bear
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I hope it goes through the roof tonight, then I won't have to worry about who wins

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:26 | 2935135 DavosSherman
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Fuck that noise.  Gold is going through the roof no matter who the fuck gets elected.  Mitt doesn't have $16 trillion to pay Social Security, $84 trillion to pay Medicare, $21 trillion to pay prescription drugs and $16 trillion to pay our debt.

Both parties suck.  Both parties created this mess.  Obummer is a moron, no doubt there, but Mitt the corporate miner, the stripper isn't loaded enough to do anything.

On a yearly basis we're effed.

 

TOTAL SPENDING $3.603 trillion

2011 Federal Government’s spending: $3,603,000,000,000.00 (3.603 trillion)

There are a million “millions” in a trillion or 1,000 millions in a billion and 1,000 billions in a trillion.  If you spent 1 million a day since 1AD you’d have not spent a trillion.

Federal spending is breaks out into 3 key areas: Mandatory programs, Interest & Discretionary Spending.

MANDATORY SPENDING $2.073 Trillion FY2011

Entitlements:

Social Security…………………………………………………………………………$726 billion
Medicare……………………………………………………………………………………$480 billion
Medicaid……………………………………………………………………………………$275 billion
TARP & Other mandatory programs…………………………………….$631 billion
Total………………………………………………………………………………………….$2,073 trillion

2011 Other Mandatory Spending includes: Food Stamps (47 million recipients) Unemployment Benefits (22.8% unemployment rate), Child Nutrition Student Loans, Disability and Tax Credits.

INTEREST ON FEDERAL DEBT $230 billion

Interest:…………………………………………………………………………………..$230 billion

DISCRETIONARY SPENDING $1.3 trillion

Must be approved by Congress each year, breaks out into 2 key areas: Security related Military Foreign Aid, Veteran Services and non-security related (What we think of when we think of the government, Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Justice, State, Energy Treasury, Interior, Transportation, HHS, HUD, etc.)

Security:………………………………………………………………………..$700 billion
Nonsecurity…………………………………………………………………..$462 billion
Total……………………………………………………………………………….$1,300 trillion

GOVERNMENT INCOME TOTAL RECEIPTS $2.303 Trillion

Income (Government Revenues): $2,303,000,000,000.00 (2.303 trillion)

Mandatory Programs…………………………………………………….$2.073 trillion
Interest…………………………………………………………………………….$   230 billion
Discretionary Spending……………………………………………..$1.300 trillion
Total…………………………………………………………………………………$3.603 trillion

Government “Balance” Sheet

Income…………………………………………………………………………..$2.303 trillion
Total Spending……………………………………………………………….$3.603 trillion
DEFICIT……………………………………………………………………………$(1.300 trillion)

 

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 22:01 | 2936434 JustObserving
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US debt and unfunded liabilities are increasing at $8.37 trillion a year.  All the gold bullion available in the world is worth about $3.6 trillion. So you can buy all the gold bullion in the world every 157 days with the increase in just US debts and unfunded liabilities.

 

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:35 | 2935474 Crabshacker
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If you spent 1 million a day since 1AD you’d have not spent a trillion. F.....Does this account for inflation??

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