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On Slime and Water
Slimy
Just saying the words, “Pink Slime” gives me the creeps. I’m not pleased to learn that I’ve been dining on this swill for the past sixty years. The US Department of Agriculture has made an interesting response to the public outcry about slime. (Link) Starting in September, every school district in the country will have the right to chose whether to buy burgers with or without slime.
Think where this goes. Beverly Hills schools will have no slime, while East LA is all slime. Scottsdale will go slime free, while Phoenix has slime-fattened burgers. Westchester will definitely go "No Slime", but I'm guessing the schools in the Bronx will opt for slime. Same for Bethesda versus the District of Colombia.
Should we see this new form of “red lining”, income disparity will be a topic of discussion. When school rolls around again, it will be at the height of the election. It will be interesting to see how the candidates handle slime.
The FDA left it up to restaurants and grocery stores to deal with slime as they wish. Without any rules, the public will decide what they want in their burgers.
Some tony restaurants have already changed their menus to assure their customers they are not eating slime. (If the menu has be changed, does that mean they were dishing up slime before?) It’s just a matter of time until more eateries follow suit. This has some interesting implications.
A fellow walks into McDees:
Can I have a quarter-pounder with cheese, fries and a coke?
Yes sir! How would you like that burger? With, or without slime?
It’s funny how a word can make a difference. I’m a big burger guy, so I went and bought a meat grinder and some chuck from the butcher. Delicious, made all the better knowing it wasn’t slimy. Very "Old School".
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Peak Water
Twenty thousand folks from all over the world showed up at the World Water Forum in Marseilles, France this week. For those who lose sleep at night worrying about peak oil, I suggest they re-direct their stress to Peak Water. Peak oil may scare us to death, but peak water will be what kills us. In less than forty years, two out of three people will be living in areas described as being in Severe Water Stress.
There are two ways of looking at consumption of water on a global basis. The first is per capita: (Total per capita use = Agricultural + Industrial + Municipal + Individual consumption / Population
The USA is the world’s water glutton based on this measure of consumption, due to our industrial water use. GDP is directly correlated to total water consumption. A second way to look at water consumption is by comparing total gallons used.
By this matrix, China and India are the truly big users. Now look at geographic areas that are “water troubled.” China and India jump out as problems. (Mexico too?) Most of India and substantial portions of China are already stressed:
With a population of 1.2 billion, India is already facing a water crisis in some areas.
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The US is in a very favorable position when it comes to water. There is adequate rainfall in most areas; the Great Lakes hold 22% of all fresh water. If water is to be the difference in history, then the USA will probably be the last country drinking. Unless we screw it up….
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Behind the water crisis is one of the most unsettling, disturbing, controversial, taboo topics ... population overshoot and population control.
There are some intelligent discussions of this, interestingly enough, on the website The Oil Drum, which goes more generally into the realm of resource depletion. They've had especially interesting case studies from the past of human history, like how the population of Ireland shrunk from a pre-1800s-famine peak of 8 million, to the 5 million plus today. One of the factors was that, post-famine, the Irish developed a culture of very late marriages which limited the number of births.
But overall, population overshoot is a tale of tragedy, starvation, and catastrophe, and population control programmes that 'work' are often brutal or totalitarian. University education for women seems to work in some cultures to limit population growth, as happened in Tunisia, but others say this is not a general solution. An African woman here tells me that it is an unstoppable desire in most women in her part of the world, to have as many children as possible.
And then there is a question of how much time is left, given how populations, particularly in Africa, keep exploding.
But it seems anything people say on this topic, results in them getting hit in the face from several sides, from claims that any discussion of the issue is a racist agenda, or part of a NWO scheme against the common people of the world.
Those odd Georgia Guidestones suggest we should limit the population of the world to under a half billion ... 'make room for nature' ... Ironically, that is around the number suggested by some researchers, as sustainable without use of petroleum or without a negative depletion of the environment.
A sad, troubling topic.
We have two choices as a species. Control our population or have nature control it for us. Human nature is such that as long as we are resonably healthy, dry, warm and well nourished, we will reproduce. What do modern social programs do? Keep people reasonably healthy, dry, warm and well nourished. Just as interference in the free market distorts market signals, social engineering distorts natural signals that control population.
Do we let people suffer from curable diseases, or freeze or starve? Of course not. That's not what I'm saying. We have to have mercy and kindness. But how dowe temper mercy and kindness with respect for natural laws?
Find the answer to this question: "Is the surface of a planet the correct place for an expanding technological civilization?"
It will answer yer question as well.
the population of Ireland shrunk from a pre-1800s-famine peak of 8 million, to the 5 million plus today.
And you don't even mention emigration?
And you don't even mention emigration
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On purpose, on purpose.The post is based on one of the US citizen scam they relish, the cultural thing. The cultural embrace of this or that value.
2 million Irish emigrated in fifty years.
But hey, the US citizen song is well known, the low consumer is the main action behind an overconsumption problem, not the big consumer.
That is why the low consumer has to adopt the culture of the big consumer, save, of course, in terms of consumption.
Nice to See CONSERVATIVES/REPUBLICANS are coming over to LIBERAL ideas....
Its only taken, lets see, 40 fucking years....
CLEAN WATER ACT 1972 / CLEAN AIR ACT 1970 / 1ST EARTH DAY 1970
All LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE IDEAS.
That means another 40 fucking years until you dummies get Global Warming.
bank guy in Brussels
Fuck off on overpopulation.
First, as you rightly point out, it is people of color who are breeding. I find it racist to that those wpould be the ONLY ones population control would be aimed at. Whiteys big goddamned population gun aimed at their little colored crotches.
Second population is expected to peak around 2050 at about 9 billion then decline.
The real issue facing everyone is ELDERLY POPULATIONS with virtually ZERO replacement by young people.
If you think overpopulation (or pollution) isn't real, I suggest a trip to shanghai
Baleful Runes 4 U
Can you fucking read?
calm down, sport. wasn't really responding specifically to you.
but your premise "Second population is expected to peak around 2050 at about 9 billion then decline." is untenable as peak oil among many other factors will have intervened before then.
Lot of evidence peak oil is artificial scarcity bullshit NWO propaganda.
But even if it's true, there's enough power from thorium to get humanity to fusion (or some other power source) and then off-planet.
Malthus spelled backwards is Dumb Fuck.
"Lot of evidence peak oil is artificial scarcity bullshit NWO propaganda"
What evidence are you speaking of?
and if it is propaganda, it's certainly not actually being propagated (at least in the US). Mainstream news outlets seemingly never utter the words "peak oil", and if an 'oil expert' is called upon for an interview, it will be someone like yergin.
You might try Googling 'peak oil myth'.
Douchbag!
I'm a douchbag (sic) because you were unable to answer me why it is that, if peak oil is propaganda, it is either ignored or hastily dismissed in the major media of the usa? So it's propaganda soley for the tiny group of people who read obscure sites and books? Yes, that makes sense. Very targeted and focused.
haha
Yep... the same Media that dismisses the problems with the current banking cartel...
Wow... you really are a faith-based lifeform...
Why don;t you explain to me where all the oil is?
I googled what you asked and all I got was talk about Kerogen in Colorado and abiotic oil....
Sorry....
Just the Bakken Formation and Alaska easily have enough to last the world for another 100 years or so.
"Just the Bakken Formation and Alaska easily have enough to last the world for another 100 years or so"
haha really?
very roughly 80 million barrels of oil are used a day in the world
Bakken estimated to have, what? 20 billion of recoverable oil (and that's being generous)
ok so Bakken could supply the entire world for 250 days (again, very roughly).
the alaskan wildlife refuge that people wanted to drill-
"A 1998 U.S. Geological Survey assessment still used today concluded it's almost certain there are at least 5.6 billion barrels of recoverable oil and possibly as much as 16 billion barrels (a 5 percent likelihood) beneath the refuge's 1.5 million-acre coastal plain."
so, even given best estimates, for those two regions , you dont even make 2 fucking years. you so sure the rest of alaska has 98 years worth of recoverable oil?
haven't even touched the EROEI of all this
haha
Funny how clowns like LP are onto the great banking conspiracies but the oil cos. are paragons of truth and virtue...
Talk about a selective ability to discern reality!
Congratulations! You made The List.
Thanks....
Show me a commercially demonstrated Thorium reactor design...
Show me a reasonable turn on model that scales Thorium to 20% of our power within 50 years that does not rely on statist methods...
Google it yourself asshole. Or check Wikipedia. It's all there.
And go fuck yourself.
Suprise me... you are the expert...
The first candidate for sterilization?
Just because the Chinese like to pile on each other like hamsters doesn't mean we're anywhere near the globe's carrying capacity.
Derp de derp!
So what is the worlds carrying capacity? When do we get there? And how is it sustained?
Impossible to calculate because it is technology dependent.
Go fuck yourself.
You are the expert, tell me the technologies and the numbers...the floor is yours...
You kookie europeans! Always on the cutting edge of social engineering schemes. I think you guys should just go back to kings and dukes and stuff. You were way more rational then. Those seige engines were cool; you gotta love a good trebuchet!
sustainable spelled backwards is eugenics
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. (Zyklon B)
Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity. (Spaying)
Unite humanity with a living new language. (Volapük)
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason. (Caliphate)
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. (Police State)
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. (Dictate)
Avoid petty laws and useless officials. (The big lie)
Balance personal rights with social duties. (arbeit macht frei)
Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite. (Aquarius)
Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature. (Gaia)
>>>Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason. (Caliphate)
come on man, think a little bit about this... religions are created or altered by the elite to control the masses, no doubt... but do you really think that muslims are taking over the world? how many of the central bankers are muslims? I would agree with you that wahabi islam is abhorent... but it too was just cooked up by the elites as a form a mind control. But the same is true with many sects of Christianity. anytime time that they can convince people to blindly follow "scripture", they have suceeded in ensuring continued control. but speaking specifically to islam, note there is much tension between shiites and some sunni groups, for precisely the reason mentioned above... the "saudi" style wahabis (sunnis) are fakes. militant islam was cooked up by the ruling elites to help kick start the NWO. the problem is not a caliphate, but a group of luciferians who will wear any mask, and infiltrate any group, all for the purpose of completing their plan to take full control over the rest of us, ala 1984.
OK then, let's call it "Holy Roman Empire".
There, fixed it.
thanks LP, it seems that numbnuts missed the subtlety, maybe the wafflebanker has a point
Same shit different control meme.
Eat the Statists!
You are counting on the statists to save you and your offsprings sorry asses....
Boy, you really have no idea whatsoever what I'm all about at all?
Sorry I don't fit your Left/Right NWO paradigm.
Go fuck yourself.
You have no idea how inconsistent your posts are....
Statist funded R+D for Thorium reactors.... LMAO
I'd love to work on a private thorium reactor project.
But GOVERNMENT prevents such things.
Go fuck yourself, you NWO troll.
Fulfill your dream, Go to India... they are looking for qualified people...
Are you qualified? Something tells me you are not...
closer I think... but probably only covers the most recent part of the story...
The words we choose make things so much better. Rock salmon is so much better than spiny dogfish. Yum. Chicken broth is much tastier than denatured tissue serum. I'm a meat eater so I long ago learned not to think of that burger patty as a charred mass of the pulverized muscle and veins of a creature that used to snuggle up to its mother for warmth on a cold evening. Ground sirloin tastes better, especially with some added smoke flavoring. If you want to keep eating burgers don't look into what 'real' smoke flavoring consists of. Hint: the partially burned and now vaporized remains of blood, fat and serum that dripped onto the coals is easily adsorbed into the liquified fat on the cooking meat.
Pink slime a non-issue except for semantics. Anyone who is worried about it should have the logical integrity to go vegetarian.
Yeah, exactly. Slime is a provocative word, but some cultures make use of all the "extra" parts of the animal as well, and dont even sterilize it with ammonia. Maybe people think its a slippery slope to soylent green or something, but pink slime in itself doesnt seem to be cause for alarm to me.
Yeah, and there's no difference between the meat from a highly processed chemically altered genetically modified grain fed antibiotic stuffed downer cow, and a grass fed free range cow?
WTF!?
And yes, I've slaughtered and butchered and eaten animals, so I'm aware of the whole bloody business. They're still yummy!
They are tasty. Over the ages our taste receptors have changed so we now put that seared meat into our mouths and say "Ummmm!"
I don't care a whit if the cow ate genetically modified corn but please hold the antibiotics and hormones beacuse they pass through. Who knows which of the diabetes/obesity/autism/allergy/whatever epidemics are being caused by using us as lab mice for their chemical food additive experiments. Still industrial meat is a cheap form of protein and most of the world can't afford that grass fed free-range cow that you (and I) prefer to eat. I'm just saying that pink slime doesn't rate on my scale anywhere near growth-hormone injected meat as an issue to get me worried. It's semantics used as a magician's slight of hand to get us focused on the wrong topic.
True... But it's a start.
Humans collectively are as intelligent as yeast in a petri dish....
"Humans are stupid and can't create technology."
Do you really think that is a cutting comment??
I mean, can you do anything but misrepresent people?
You should know http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-11-17/slime-and-water#comment-...
Go fuck yourself.