Top Economic Advisers Forecast World War

George Washington's picture

Kyle Bass writes:

Trillions of dollars of debts will be restructured and millions of financially prudent savers will lose large percentages of their real purchasing power at exactly the wrong time in their lives. Again, the world will not end, but the social fabric of the profligate nations will be stretched and in some cases torn. Sadly, looking back through economic history, all too often war is the manifestation of simple economic entropy played to its logical conclusion. We believe that war is an inevitable consequence of the current global economic situation.

Larry Edelson wrote an email to subscribers entitled “What the “Cycles of War” are saying for 2013″, which states:

Since the 1980s, I’ve been studying the so-called “cycles of war” — the natural rhythms that predispose societies to descend into chaos, into hatred, into civil and even international war.


I’m certainly not the first person to examine these very distinctive patterns in history. There have been many before me, notably, Raymond Wheeler, who published the most authoritative chronicle of war ever, covering a period of 2,600 years of data.


However, there are very few people who are willing to even discuss the issue right now. And based on what I’m seeing, the implications could be absolutely huge in 2013.

Former Goldman Sachs technical analyst Charles Nenner – who has made some big accurate calls, and counts major hedge funds, banks, brokerage houses, and high net worth individuals as clients – says there will be “a major war starting at the end of 2012 to 2013”, which will drive the Dow to 5,000.

Why are these economic gurus forecasting war?

For one thing, many influential people wrongly believe that war is good for the economy.

In addition, Jim Rogers says:

If it turns into a trade war, it is the most momentous thing of 2011,” said Rogers. “Trade wars always lead to wars. Nobody wins trade wars, except general who end up fighting the physical wars when they happen. This is very dangerous.

Rogers also explains:

A continuation of bailouts in Europe could ultimately spark another world war, says international investor Jim Rogers.




“Add debt, the situation gets worse, and eventually it just collapses. Then everybody is looking for scapegoats. Politicians blame foreigners, and we’re in World War II or World War whatever.”

And Marc Faber says that the American government will start new wars in response to the economic crisis:

Faber also believes the U.S., China and Russia may go to war over Mideast oil.

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Anusocracy's picture

Conflict is not the natural state of humans.

sgt_doom's picture

Wonder if this has anything to do with the Petraeus Affair?

Serious Questions

 The FBI's disinformation campaign 

We hear about the FBI's criminal investigation based upon bitchy emails to Jill Kelley, where there was no commission of a crime?

This is a serious misuse and abuse of government funds!

We hear about a national security investigation based upon bitchy emails to Jill Kelley, where there was no threat to national security?

This is a serious misuse and abuse of government funds!

The serious question which should be asked --- and must be investigated --- is why FBI director, Robert Mueller III, is misusing and abusing government funds in this manner?

Where was the crime?  Where was the threat to national security?

Why is the FBI spending government funds in their disinformation campaign, and who authorized it?

As of this moment, the only clear and present danger to national security is FBI director, Robert Mueller III and his motivations in these events.

A full-scale national security investigation into the background of Robert Mueller III is of the utmost urgency.


What was Mueller's involvement in the failed investigation into BCCI and any White House connections to the Bush (#1) presidency when Mueller was chief of the DOJ's criminal division?


What are the financial connections between the Mueller family fortune and the Rockefeller family?


What are the familial connections between Mueller, and his family, to Richard Bissell and Gen. Cabell, two of the three top CIA people President Kennedy fired before he was assassinated?  (The third was Allen Dulles, a possible Nazi collaborator.  Source:  Congressional investigations, along with the investigation by the state government of New York, back during the 1940s, which uncovered collaboration between Rockefeller, Mellon and Morgan and Hitler's Third Reich.  Example:  Rockefeller's treasonous selling of oil, by way of Spain and Switzerland, to Hitler's Third Reich during World War II.  The representative of Rockefeller and Mellon interests, both outside and inside the government:  Allen Dulles.)

Whether you refer to this as the Petraeus Affair or Operation Bitchy Emails, massive misuse and abuse of government funds is the only crime which has occurred.

The probable perpetrator:  Robert Mueller III, the FBI director.

Is Mr. Mueller positioning himself for a 2016 run for the presidency?  Was Petraeus a possible competitor and was that how Mueller viewed Petraeus and any opportunity to besmirch and remove him?

These are the only real --- and serious --- questions on this subject!

A Recap on the Political Appointments of Robert Mueller III

 When the BCCI investigation moved closer to the Bush (#1) White House, Mueller was appointed to the position of chief of the DOJ's criminal division, and the investigation fizzled out.

One week prior to the attacks of 9/11, Mueller was appointed as director of the FBI by the son of Bush #1, George W. Bush.

Each appointment occurred at the most auspiciously convenient of times?

And immediate national security investigation of Robert Mueller III is of the utmost importance!

Great is the truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about the truth. ---  Aldous Huxley

The Alarmist's picture

Bitchy emails and extramarital affairs at the top of the intelligence community make for a great distraction from other things, which I will leave to your imagination.

BTW, the concept of a misuse of government funds is almost laughable in the present day ... tell us what is not a misuse of funds?

diogeneslaertius's picture

predictive programming grist imo


minus faber/rogers who are just reading the all too obvious tea leaves ala celente etc. the rest is gristy and feels engineered to help sweeten the already engineered/implemented WW3 dynamics


either way stack physical and hold onto your hats people its gonna get much crazier before it starts to make any sense

booboo's picture

I am going to be traveling salesman, all them lonely ladies with their men folk fighting for the United Banks of America are gonna need some comfort and a good spanking.

BraveSirRobin's picture

Peace on Earth = Purity of Essence

If you want Peace, you must deny them your essence. It's elemental logic.

tenpanhandle's picture

you'er such a dildo.  However, a dildo salesman should do quite well with your plan.

willwork4food's picture

Free-Will Baptist Police Action Requested ASAP!

q99x2's picture

If they want to stop China from taking control of the South Sea oil reserves then trouble may really be about to hit. I think Obama is an idiot for going over to asia at this time. He must know of some BIG things brewing to take such a chance.

tenpanhandle's picture

Are there actually oil reserves in the South china sea?  News to me.

caustixoid's picture

Yeah, the U.S. is bulking up the Filipino navy to keep some kickass Spratly beaches away from Chinese tour groups

tony bonn's picture

no one is predicting war - they are announcing it!!!!

BraveSirRobin's picture

Gloom and doom, gloom and doom. I really do not see a major war on the horizon. There are always small wars going on, and they will continue, but a WW III style, unlimited, total war, I don't see it at all.

Relax and enjoy your holiday season.

ozziindaus's picture

I'll bet you're secretly rooting for one

BraveSirRobin's picture

Man... you called me out, but which side am I on?

JR's picture

Ludwig von Mises wrote in 1919 that "One can say without exaggeration that inflation is an indispensable means of militarism. Without it, the repercussions of war on welfare become obvious much more quickly and penetratingly; war weariness would set in much earlier."

oldman's picture


No one here reads----we write our OPINIONS.

Please, do not attempt to enter our Zombie world with demands that we read or listen or think

We like what we like-----no changes, please       om

Supernova Born's picture

Inflation is also an indispensable means of "raising an army" as in the FSA (and its critical role in the last presidential election).

Fiat fuels socialism.

Jugdish's picture

Funny. I came to the same conclusions 4 years ago at the age of 22. Never ran a hedge fund. Never been to New York. Live in the pauper section of town. Economic gurus or common sense?

cifo's picture

You are so smart. I'm sure ZH had an influence.

e2thex's picture

And a happy Sunday to you. 

I'm always impressed with people predicting wars. How does two weeks from now sound? Can you leave Wednesday open....and forget about re-booking your scheduled doctor's appointment. 

You want to also make sure that you're not anywhere near ground zero. You don't want those gold coins fused together from the heat.  Then vendors will have trouble making change.

It's nice to know that everyone thinks they will get to resume normal programming after the war. 


q99x2's picture

There will be wars and rumor of wars...

Nyaa Nyaa Nyaa Nyaa Nyaa Nyaa

Repent the end is nigh.

As far as I'm concerned every night I go to sleep I die as dead as I'll ever be. So who cares about a freaking war no matter how big it is. I've got better things to do--like figuring out a way to manipulate time. Once that is accomplished I can work on the rest of the problems.

tenpanhandle's picture

on a long enough timeline (actually pretty short) all your lives are belong to dirt.

willwork4food's picture

Time? Not a problem. First go to Bufallo Wild Wings and eat a dozen hot spicy wings with extra green habenero sauce for dunkin' along with a good  beer.Then stop @ Cold Stone for an extra large chocolate peanut butter, M&M, reccess sundae with whip cream.

By the time you're on your 2nd beer @ home you will be closely approaching E=MC(2) on your way to the bathroom, not quite going back in time but definitely manipulating the flow. Good luck.



Jack Sheet's picture

"Do you want a drink before the war?"

....John Cleese alias Basil Fawlty


JR's picture

“It comes down to this. If you hate war, oppose the Fed. If you hate violations of your liberties, oppose the Fed. If you want to restrain despotism, restrain the Fed. If you want to secure freedom for yourself and your descendants, abolish the Fed.”

– Lew Rockwell, "Restoring the Republic: Foreign Policy and Civil Liberties," speech on June 6, 2008, in Reston, Virginia.

War and Inflation by Lew Rockwell (2008 – excerpt):

The U.S. central bank, called the Federal Reserve, was created in 1913. No one promoted this institution with the slogan that it would make wars more likely and guarantee that nearly half a million Americans would die in battle in foreign lands, along with millions of foreign soldiers and civilians. No one pointed out that this institution would permit Americans to fund, without taxes, the destruction of cities abroad and overthrow governments at will. No one said that the central bank would make it possible for the U.S. to be at large-scale war in one of every four years for a full century. It was never pointed out that this institution would make it possible for the U.S. government to establish a global empire that would make Imperial Rome and Britain look benign by comparison.

You can line up 100 professional war historians and political scientists and talk about the twentieth century, and not one is likely to mention the role of the Fed in funding U.S. militarism. And yet it is true: the Fed is the institution that has created the money to fund the wars. In this role, it has solved a major problem that the state has confronted for all of human history. A state without money or a state that must tax its citizens to raise money for its wars is necessarily limited in its imperial ambitions. Keep in mind that this is only a problem for the state. It is not a problem for the people. The inability of the state to fund its unlimited ambitions is worth more for the people than every kind of legal check and balance. It is more valuable than all the constitutions ever devised.

The state has no wealth that is its own. It is not a profitable enterprise. Everything it possesses it must take from society in a zero-sum game. That usually means taxes, but taxes annoy people. They can destabilize the state and threaten its legitimacy. They inspire anger, revolt, and even revolution. Rather than risk that result, the state from the Middle Ages to the dawn of the central banking age was somewhat cautious in its global ambitions simply because it was cautious in its need to steal openly and directly from the people in order to pay its bills…

Before the creation of the Federal Reserve, the idea of American entry into the conflict that became World War I would have been inconceivable. In fact, it was a highly unpopular idea, and Woodrow Wilson himself campaigned on a platform that promised to keep us out of war. But with a money monopoly, all things seem possible. It was a mere four years after the Fed was invented under the guise of scientific policy planning that the real agenda became obvious. The Fed would fund the U.S. entry into World War I…

Note: The full text of this speech ranks among the best in the annals of American liberty—a must read.

Supernova Born's picture

...and if you want to oppose the Fed, buy physical PMs.

Coast Watcher's picture

Farber et al are just parroting what Strauss and Howe wrote 15 years ago in The Fourth Turning. I re-read it recently and was impressed with how accurate they were and continue to be. Which means the world could get realy scary in the next few years.

ThisIsBob's picture

Buy the canons, sell the trumpets.

Coast Watcher's picture

Accurate, even with the misspelling!

ThisIsBob's picture

For centuries the 1% have used the rules of spelling to control the 99%  "Occupy Spelling" I say.

"It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word!" -- Andrew Jackson

Uncle Remus's picture

Prolly some kinda Freudian clutch burner.

TrulyStupid's picture

Has anyone noticed that we have been engaged in the most expensive wealth destroying wars in history over the last 10 years? The collapse comes when the combatants have exhausted all their resources and the soldiers and debt comes home. There is a window of opportunity for the miscreants to leave that is closing rapidly.

DaveyJones's picture

have you also noticed that major media used to bitch about it and now...crickets

flapdoodle's picture

Their wars will continue until we run out of money...

SheHunter's picture

Dr. Doom is a TOP economic advisor? To whom?

AgShaman's picture


Ya know....all the relevant ones

knukles's picture

The little Dooms, Mrs Doom and their pooch, Apocalypse.

Uncle Remus's picture

I'm guessing it's a poodle...

geno-econ's picture

Although reasons for war have not changed, future wars will not be conventional or the same because  weapons systems have changed. Expect more arms length civilian casualties in large numbers and fierce competition for remaining natural resources. Bring back the draft and make Polititians and Bankers eligable for A-1 infantry status would be a first step towards attaining peace and prosperity

Rustysilver's picture

These predictions are always 6, 12 or 18 months away, like Greece exiting euro.  Very accurate and predictive.

blindman's picture

great, let the economist go and fight wwIII
and when they are all either dead or victorious
they can come back and tell us how to manage
the debt they just incurred or prevented.
celente says the same thing by the way.
Friday November 16 12:00pm
Gary Null - The Natural Living Show

Redstone's picture

Speaking of articles, this article by George Washington appears on Global Research today. In fact, I’m seeing GW’s columns on more and more sites, such as Lew Rockwell’s.

GW and ZH are drawing bigger and bigger crowds, it seems. Good news for all.