Preventing Armageddon Would Cost Only $100 Million … But Congress Is Too Thick to Approve the Fix

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The government has thrown tens of trillions of dollars at the big banks, even though bailing out the big banks hurts – rather than helps – the American economy. See this, this and this. (And it doesn’t take a PhD economist to guess that using bailout funds to buy gold toilet seats and prostitutes is probably not the best way to stimulate the economy as a whole)..

Nobel prize winning economist Joe Stiglitz says that the $3-5 trillion spent on the Iraq war alone has been very bad for the American economy. See this, this and this. Security experts – including both hawks and doves – agree that waging war against Iraq and in other Middle Eastern countries weakens national security and increases terrorism. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

The government has thrown money at all sorts of other useless projects.

And yet Congress refuses to spend a mere $100 million to prevent Armageddon.

Specifically, well-known physicist Michio Kaku and other members of the American Physical Society asked Congress to appropriate $100 million to harden the country’s electrical grid against solar flares.

Congress refused.

Kaku explains that a solar flare like the one that hit the U.S. in 1859 would – in the current era of nuclear power and electric refrigeration – cause Armageddon.

Not only could such a flare bring on multiple Fukushima type accidents, but it could well cause food riots nationwide.

Kaku explains that relief came in for people hit by disasters like Katrina or Sandy from the “outside”. But a large solar flare could knock out a lot of the power nationwide. So – as people’s food spoils due to lack of refrigeration – emergency workers from other areas would be too preoccupied with their own local crisis to help. There would, in short, be no “cavalry” to the rescue in much of the country.

Such an event would be the most likely Armageddon-type event to hit us (from a secular source, anyway … remember, the Mayans aren’t predicting the end of the world this year.)

In addition, we’ve spent tens of trillions on the “war on terror”, but have failed to take steps to protect against the largest terrorist threat of all: an attack on the power supplies to nuclear power plants. As discussed in more detail below, an electromagnetic pulse (emp) which took out the power supply to a nuclear power plant would cause a Fukushima-style meltdown, and spent fuel pools are extremely vulnerable to terrorism.

We’ve sounded the alarm for years about the failure to harden our electrical system against electromagnetic storms from our sun.

For example, we noted last year that the extreme vulnerability of nuclear power plants to solar flares is a very real threat which we must address:

Nasa scientists are predicting that a solar storm will knock out most of the electrical power grid in many countries worldwide, perhaps for months. See this, this, this, this, this, this and this.


Indeed, the Earth’s magnetic field protects us from the sun’s most violent radiation, and yet the magnetic field fluctuates over time. As the Telegraph reported in 2008:

Large hole in magnetic field that protects Earth from sun’s rays … Recent satellite observations have revealed the largest breach yet seen in the magnetic field that protects Earth from most of the sun’s violent blasts.

I’m not predicting some 2012 Mayan catastrophe. [Indeed, I think the whole Mayan 2012 thing is fake.] I am simply warning that a large solar storm – as Nasa is predicting – could knock out power throughout much of the world, especially if the earth’s magnetic field happens to be weak at the time.


What would happen to nuclear power plants world wide if their power – and most of the surrounding modern infrastructure – is knocked out?


Nuclear power companies are notoriously cheap in trying to cut costs. If they are failing to harden their electrical components to protect against the predicted solar storm, they are asking for trouble … perhaps on a scale that dwarfs Fukushima. Because while Fukushima is the first nuclear accident to involve multiple reactors within the same complex, a large solar storm could cause accidents at multiple complexes in numerous countries.


If the nuclear power companies and governments continue to cut costs and take large gambles, the next nuclear accident could make Fukushima look tame.


I’m not saying this will happen in 2012, or 2013 (although Nasa appears to be hinting at this). But a large solar storm which knocks out electrical grids over wide portions of the planet will happen at some point in the future.


Don’t pretend it is unforeseeable. The nuclear power industry is on notice that it must spend the relatively small amounts of money necessary to prevent a widespread meltdown from the loss of power due to a solar storm.




Most current reactors are of a similarly outdated design as the Fukushima reactors, where the cooling systems require electricity to operate, and huge amounts of spent radioactive fuel are housed on-site, requiring continuous cooling to prevent radioactive release. [Designs which would automatically shut down - and cool down - in the event of an accident are ignored for political reasons.]

The conservative G2 Bulletin reported earlier this year:

As scientists warn of an impending solar storm between now and 2014 that could collapse the national power grid, thrusting millions into darkness instantly, a debate has flared up between utilities and the federal government on the severity of such an event.


NASA and the National Academy of Sciences previously confirmed to G2Bulletin that an electromagnetic pulse event from an intense solar storm could occur any time between now and 2014.


They say it could have the effect of frying electronics and knocking out transformers in the national electric grid system.


Already, there are separate published reports of massive solar storms of plasma – some as large as the Earth itself – flaring off of the sun’s surface and shooting out into space, with some recently having come close enough to Earth to affect worldwide communications and alter the flights of commercial aircraft near the North Pole.


But in February, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation, which represents the power industry, issued a stunning report asserting that a worst-case geomagnetic “super storm” like the 1859 Carrington Event likely wouldn’t damage most power grid transformers. Instead, it would cause voltage instability and possibly result in blackouts lasting only a few hours or days, but not months and years.


NERC’s assertion, however, is at serious variance with the 2008 congressional EMP Commission, the 2008 National Academy of Sciences report; a 2010 Federal Energy Regulatory Commission report; the 2012 report by the Defense Committee of the British Parliament, and others.


Even the British scientists who contributed to the parliament report came to their own independent assessment that a great geomagnetic storm would cause widespread damage to power grid transformers and result in a protracted blackout lasting months, or even years, with catastrophic consequences for society.




[The U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission or "FERC"], which regulates interstate electricity and other energy sales but has no authority now over local utilities to harden their grid sites, says that as many as 130 million Americans could have problems for years.




U.S. transformers on the average are more than 30 years old and are susceptible to internal heating, according to FERC experts.




There is ample evidence in the possession of the FERC revealing the damage to transformers from previous geomagnetic storms. For example, there was serious transformer damage to the Salem nuclear power plant in New Jersey in the aftermath of the same geomagnetic storm that caused the March 1989 Hydro-Quebec blackout.

There’s An Easy Fix … Are We Smart Enough to Take It?

Japan’s nuclear meltdown, the economic crisis and the Gulf oil spill all happened for the same reason: big companies cutting every corner in the book – and hiding the existence of huge risks – in order to make a little money.

There are relatively easy fixes to the threat from solar flares:

The head of the leading consulting firm on the effect of electromagnetic disruptions on our power grid – which was commissioned to study the issue by the U.S. federal government – stated that it would be relatively inexpensive to reduce the vulnerability of our power grid:


What we’re proposing is to add some fairly small and inexpensive resistors in the transformers’ ground connections. The addition of that little bit of resistance would significantly reduce the amount of the geomagnetically induced currents that flow into the grid.




We think it’s do-able for $40,000 or less per resistor. That’s less than what you pay for insurance for a transformer.




If you’re talking about the United States, there are about 5,000 transformers to consider this for. The Electromagnetic Pulse Commission recommended it in a report they sent to Congress last year. We’re talking about $150 million or so. It’s pretty small in the grand scheme of things.

Mechanical engineer Matthew Stein [notes]:

There are nearly 450 nuclear reactors in the world, with hundreds more being planned or under construction…. Imagine what havoc it would wreak on our civilization and the planet’s ecosystems if we were to suddenly witness not just one or two nuclear meltdowns, but 400 or more! How likely is it that our world might experience an event that could ultimately cause hundreds of reactors to fail and melt down at approximately the same time? I venture to say that, unless we take significant protective measures, this apocalyptic scenario is not only possible, but probable.




In the past 152 years, Earth has been struck by roughly 100 solar storms, causing significant geomagnetic disturbances (GMD), two of which were powerful enough to rank as “extreme GMDs.” If an extreme GMD of such magnitude were to occur today, in all likelihood, it would initiate a chain of events leading to catastrophic failures at the vast majority of our world’s nuclear reactors, similar to but over 100 times worse than, the disasters at both Chernobyl and Fukushima.




The good news is that relatively affordable equipment and processes could be installed to protect critical components in the electric power grid and its nuclear reactors, thereby averting this “end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it” scenario. The bad news is that even though panels of scientists and engineers have studied the problem, and the bipartisan Congressional electromagnetic pulse (EMP) commission has presented a list of specific recommendations to Congress, our leaders have yet to approve and implement any significant preventative measures.




Unfortunately, the world’s nuclear power plants, as they are currently designed, are critically dependent upon maintaining connection to a functioning electrical grid, for all but relatively short periods of electrical blackouts, in order to keep their reactor cores continuously cooled so as to avoid catastrophic reactor core meltdowns and fires in storage ponds for spent fuel rods.


If an extreme GMD were to cause widespread grid collapse (which it most certainly will), in as little as one or two hours after each nuclear reactor facility’s backup generators either fail to start, or run out of fuel, the reactor cores will start to melt down. After a few days without electricity to run the cooling system pumps, the water bath covering the spent fuel rods stored in “spent-fuel ponds” will boil away, allowing the stored fuel rods to melt down and burn[2]. Since the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) currently mandates that only one week’s supply of backup generator fuel needs to be stored at each reactor site, it is likely that, after we witness the spectacular nighttime celestial light show from the next extreme GMD, we will have about one week in which to prepare ourselves for Armageddon.


To do nothing is to behave like ostriches with our heads in the sand, blindly believing that “everything will be okay” as our world drifts towards the next natural, inevitable super solar storm and resultant extreme GMD. Such a storm would end the industrialized world as we know it, creating almost incalculable suffering, death and environmental destruction on a scale not seen since the extinction of the dinosaurs some 65 million years ago.




There are records from the 1850s to today of roughly 100 significant geomagnetic solar storms, two of which, in the last 25 years, were strong enough to cause millions of dollars worth of damage to key components that keep our modern grid powered.




“The Carrington Event,” raged from August 28 to September 4, 1859. This extreme GMD induced currents so powerful that telegraph lines, towers and stations caught on fire at a number of locations around the world. Best estimates are that the Carrington Event was approximately 50 percent stronger than the 1921 storm.[5] Since we are headed into an active solar period much like the one preceding the Carrington Event, scientists are concerned that conditions could be ripe for the next extreme GMD.[6]




The federal government recently sponsored a detailed scientific study to better understand how much critical components of our national electrical power grid might be affected by either a naturally occurring GMD or a man-made EMP. Under the auspices of the EMP Commission and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and reviewed in depth by the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the National Academy of Sciences, Metatech Corporation undertook extensive modeling and analysis of the potential effects of extreme geomagnetic storms on the US electrical power grid. Based upon a storm as intense as the 1921 storm, Metatech estimated that within the United States, induced voltage and current spikes, combined with harmonic anomalies, would severely damage or destroy over 350 EHV power transformers critical to the functioning of the US grid and possibly impact well over 2000 EHV transformers worldwide.[7]


EHV transformers are made to order and custom-designed for each installation, each weighing as much as 300 tons and costing well over $1 million. Given that there is currently a three-year waiting list for a single EHV transformer (due to recent demand from China and India, lead times grew from one to three years), and that the total global manufacturing capacity is roughly 100 EHV transformers per year when the world’s manufacturing centers are functioning properly, you can begin to grasp the implications of widespread transformer losses.


The loss of thousands of EHV transformers worldwide would cause a catastrophic grid collapse across much of the industrialized world. It will take years, at best, for the industrialized world to put itself back together after such an event, especially considering the fact that most of the manufacturing centers that make this equipment will also be grappling with widespread grid failure.




In the event of an extreme GMD-induced long-term grid collapse covering much of the globe, if just half of the world’s spent fuel ponds were to boil off their water and become radioactive, zirconium-fed infernos, the ensuing contamination could far exceed the cumulative effect of 400 Chernobyls.




The Congressionally mandated EMP Commission has studied the threat of both EMP [i.e. an electromagnetic pulse set of by terrorists or adversaries in war] and extreme GMD events and made recommendations to the US Congress to implement protective devices and procedures to ensure the survival of the grid and other critical infrastructures in either event. John Kappenman, author of the Metatech study, estimates that it would cost about $1 billion to build special protective devices into the US grid to protect its EHV transformers from EMP or extreme GMD damage and to build stores of critical replacement parts should some of these items be damaged or destroyed. Kappenman estimates that it would cost significantly less than $1 billion to store at least a year’s worth of diesel fuel for backup generators at each US nuclear facility and to store sets of critical spare parts, such as backup generators, inside EMP-hardened steel containers to be available for quick change-out in the event that any of these items were damaged by an EMP or GMD.[12]


For the cost of a single B-2 bomber or a tiny fraction of the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bank bailout, we could invest in preventative measures to avert what might well become the end of life as we know it. There is no way to protect against all possible effects from an extreme GMD or an EMP attack, but we could implement measures to protect against the worst effects. Since 2008, Congress has narrowly failed to pass legislation that would implement at least some of the EMP Commission’s recommendations.[13]




Citizens can do their part to push for legislation to move toward this goal and work inside our homes and communities to develop local resilience and self reliance, so that in the event of a long-term grid-down scenario, we might make the most of a bad situation. The same tools that are espoused by the Transition movement for developing local self-reliance and resilience to help cope with the twin effects of climate change and peak oil could also serve communities well in the event of an EMP attack or extreme GMD. If our country were to implement safeguards to protect our grid and nuclear power plants from EMP, it would also eliminate the primary incentive for a terrorist to launch an EMP attack. The sooner we take these actions, the less chance that an EMP attack will occur.

Will we insist that these inexpensive fixes to our electrical grid be made? Or will we focus on over-blown dangers … and ignore the thing most likely to actually get us?


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NaN's picture

I checked and there were a number of bills proposed to address this problem, but all of them died in committee.  Digging deeper, I found an FEC report that attempted to moot the alarming report from ORNL. 

The FEC report disparages the ORNL studies as having a consistent set of authors, and then leans heavily on another scientific report that states the statistical error bars on likelyhood of another Carrington event are meaningless.  (That is, there is no way to make a convincing statistical case that the next one is, say, 1 versus 1200 years away with any certainty.)  Nevertheless, the leaned-on report went on to model magnitude vs. frequency of occurrence without error bars to arrive at a conclusion that events of that magnitude are 600 (or so) years apart on average. 

The FEC mooting report reasoning is not spelled out, but it seems to accept the lengthy time frame as a reassuring periodic timeframe instead of an average over all time.  

In short, the FEC cherry-picked its way to business as usual.

Outside the box, there is a last-ditch way to avoid problems with big solar storms, but no one will like it:  we will have a 30 minute warning of an impending event due to satellite data and the entire power grid facing the sun could be shutdown.  I would not expect that to happen unless they already have a notification system and practice drills. 


GoldVsFRNdotCOM's picture

If and when it comes, many will be surprised how much stuff will still work.

...and as far as the transformers on the grid, they are already being hardened in some parts of the country. Pittsburgh area being one of them.

lakecity55's picture

So, this is a joke article, right?

Nobody would expect "CONgress" to do anything that might remotely resemble common sense.

bugs_'s picture

since the Governments always screw everything up and wind up causing what they claimed to prevent letting them spend $100 million on preventing armageddon ought to scare the crap out of everyone.

sessinpo's picture

I don't bother reading GW's threads because usually I can debunk it immediately.

For example, the solution to Armageddon is for the very institution, that GW likes to rant against, is the to spend more money. The problem, which GW likes to point out, becomes the solution. Hmmm, where have I heard that before? Oh yea, Government itself.


Nice try GW. Your leftist crap isn't worth looking over. And to let you know, the solution for Armageddon is Armageddon. In other words, problems are often fixed and corrected naturally because of necessity and quite often it exposes the true root of the problem, Government and the manipulation of free markets.

fockewulf190's picture

Science tells us that the sun will eventually hit us again with a GMD strong enough to wipe out our national energy grid.  After much study and observation from past events, we know what physically happens to our energy infrastructure when exposed to a GMD, and we also know how to protect our systems to a certain degree in order to minimize serious damage. 

The Carrington Effect is real and should have long been delt with.  If your a true libertarian, you would demand that a federal government do one of the few roles it is supposed to be doing in a libertarian world, namely  protect the population from threats that would cause it harm.  The article is sound in describing the threat, and in pointing out the terrible weaknesses in our current energy system and the consequences of inaction. 

I would much rather trade the total of 6 hours of national debt for something truly needed versus your solution of Armageddon which would cost orders of magnitudes higher in lives and treasure.

Never One Roach's picture

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tony bonn's picture

trillions for war, debt, and death, but not one goddamned cent for humanity or decency

Dr. Sandi's picture

Humanity and decency never make political contributions. Who do they think they are anyway?

plata pura's picture

the sun of god may cause great gnashing of the teeth; however the big thirst be upon the bread basket' of many a nation. angloland on the other side of the coin has a high probability of getting rain to the degree of crop failures.

Mark Noonan's picture

Solar flare?  Heck, we're not even hardened against a little wind and rain.  The reason?  There's no upside to a government in just maintaining the basics - you can't buy votes with it...

skunzie's picture

I don't know if it's been mentioned because there are four pages worth of comments from readers, but I find it difficult to believe that the cost would be $100 million from Congress.  That breaks down to $2 million per state to EMP proof their own portion of the grid.  At that amount, each state could tack on a penny per kilowatt hour used by customers each month and generate many times that amount each year.  Are you sure there's not a typo in here somewhere as to the amount needed?

Papasmurf's picture

Buy gold. Only gold ground rods will be sufficient.

MrSteve's picture


not without replacement circuit boards for refrigerators, freezers, home and hospital heating systems, automobile ignition and fuel controls (the whole computer!), caged radios or walkie-talkies, etc. All the little copper wires and capacitors in PCBs get smoked with the BIG MAGNETIC PULSE OVERLOAD, all of them, everywhere. Pacemakers, dialysis machines, the whole modern technical world could go poof!

Even gold won't prevent your hard drive read/write controller, GPS, cellfone or the sacred video control circuitry from expiring. We will thrown back to the age of gas light and genuine oat-driven horsepower. Think analog everthing, everywhere, everytime. Good walking boots with a spare pair is your first investment, ahead of buying gold. You might have to walk south to find warmth. (Northern hemisphere-centric expression of survivalist thinking).

Setarcos's picture

Just to be picky, gold is too good a conductor.  It'd make a bad problem worse ... you don't have to know much about electrics to realize that resistors are required to minimize surges of current.

Maybe there is some allegorical lesson to do with gold not really being a good currency, but I'll keep my thoughts to myself on that (no point to enraging gold-bugs).

SmittyinLA's picture

LADWP has more than 5000 transformers alone, where this brain trusts gets their numbers from is beyond me.

Worse still the feds are pushing "smart grid" technology which is far less robust than our current antiquated manual switches, in addition to being more vulnerable to solar events they're also more vulnerable EMP as well as hackers.

In essence the feds are making our grid less safe more expensive and more vulnerable and calling it "progress".


Mike Cowan's picture

Armageddon can't be prevented. There is zero hedge for Armageddon.

worbsid's picture

The sun's flares are essentially 3 days away with some time to prepare though not enough time to actually fix the grid.  The EMP from high altitude nuclear blast that emphises EMP is a few miliseconds away with no time to prepare so  if it isn't fixed beforehand, then the grid is going down hard. 

I put a hand pump in our well and can provide water for about 20 families in event of electrical grid failure.  If we are depending on the government or large corporations for anything significant to protect us, forgetaboutit, they have other "wars" to fight.

The Heart's picture


pre·mo·ni·tion [prèmm? nísh’n, pr?m? nísh’n]
(plural pre·mo·ni·tions) n

1.  intuition of future event: a strong feeling, without a rational basis, that a particular thing is going to happen 

2.  warning about future: an advance warning about a future event 

Encarta ® World English Dictionary

George, thanks as usual for your good works brother. As always, well researched and written to give your instruction about the subject matter of importance. One can easily understand how this subject is at the top of the pyramid of priorities that effect this planet.

Alarmingly, we are on the same page good sir and here is some more to add to this huge report. We can almost be sure that there is a great probability that THIS will happen. How much of a warning we will have remains to be seen. Preparing now and yes, encouraging the congress critters and senate toads NOW to DO SOMETHING NOW is highly advisable. If there are good hearts here that have any influence and or powers that may be to get this hardening done, it could mean the difference between possibly surviving such a coming event, or a complete extinction of every living species of life on the planet after say, six months of maybe over 400 reactors world wide bleeding out even more radiation into the worlds environment than fukushima is now.

The wise will see and do, the wicked will cheer deaths coming haunt, all will reap just reward. What every soul on board should KNOW is you will suffer or gain according to your own works, deeds, words, and actions. At this time, every breath counts. Every moment is integral. Let it be in peace and the knowledge that you do have eyes to see, and you ALL do have ears to hear, and by the powers of the peoples that you all be, you will act accordingly.

Thank you again George W for your efforts to warn the world. What they all collectively CHOOSE to do will remain to be seen. It is an all or nothing kind of deal.

Bless’ed wishes to you all, babylonians too.


For research purposes ONLY:

November 10, 2012

"And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of His majesty, when He ariseth to shake terribly the earth."

Isaiah 2:19

Hello Folks,

We start with some Bible today and slowly tick-tock towards our appointed destiny. As the universe spins, consider what is important to you today. Comfort, good life, abundance, peaceful existence? Yes, as it should be. The most important life mandate in the modern times is to live in peace people for truly, the days are numbered. What all children should be taught is that we will all answer to the piper some day and that the Law of Karma (cause and effect) is real and will always catch up with us the soul we are eventually.

Sooner or later we may see the real reason for all the sideways confusionary distractions that are being hoisted up in front of everyone’s faces. We could see some earth changes drama on a scale never before imagined. All knees will bend when the Lord returns.

For those who have never heard Zachariah Sitchin speak, he would explain the esoteric knowledge behind this term, “Return of the Lord” this way. In the ancient times, they knew of the return of the prehistoric planet of the crossing, or Planet X. (They still do today) There was nothing greater known that would effect the entire solar system like this would and thus, it is among the highest esoteric secrets there is in the brotherhood. It is the story about the creator and destroyer of worlds. When it “Lorded” it’s way through the universe, it was like a basketball going down a billiard ball table blasting it’s way through and changing everything after it’s passage. Well folks, here comes the Lord!

What is most important is to keep a third eye on the vertical issues. When the Lord comes, it effects the sun in a big way and these solar effects may blow half the planet off before we actually see the Lord. Say maybe for one example, we could see a Carrington type event. Possiblllllly even greater. Could it happen as it has happened before? Maybe. We are in uncharted waters with lots of examples of what happened before, and what could happen again.

What is spooky in a way is all the information that is hidden out here among the cyber space stars regarding this kind of possibility. Seek and ye shall find. The trouble with this world of sheeple now-a-days is even if you told them exactly what was coming, no one would believe the truth much less actually prepare for such an event.

The babylonians are actively preparing now.

Here are some links and videos that most people should see. Just for fun of course. In a recent find, and of most interest is the movie or series titled, “The Carrington Event.“ It looks like a series about the afterlife of what the movie is titled. It has all the spooky-spoofy to it like Jericho did. All one can say is, we have seen the lessons of the unprepared in New York recently. The best thing people can do is to prepare as best as possible now while you can but more so, live in quality like it were your last days every day. Do good and be good for your eternal afterlife depends on it.

Here are some links to ponder.:

Movies are the first to go watch.


The Carrington Event:

And some U-tube:

2012 - Coming Polar Shift and the Horizon Project!!:

Alert alert earth bound disaster imminent less than 5 weeks away:

NASA - Headquarters Emergency Operations - Personal Family Preparedness Plan:

More Prepping the stage for false flag EMP:

EMP: Something Disturbing: Solar Storms Flares 2012:

Research links to investigate.:

A Perfect Solar Superstorm: The 1859 Carrington Event:

Electromagnetic Event: Magnetic Pole Shift Could Be In Progress:

The Carrington Event:

Nuke is a four letter word:

What If the Biggest Solar Storm on Record Happened Today?:

A Super Solar Flare:

Interstellar Gas Cloud:

NASA Issues 2012 Warning and Possible End of The World as we know it:

Here are some ideas about how to prepare for such an event when it happens:

EMP Attack and Solar Storms: A Guide:

Getting Prepared for an Electromagnetic Pulse Attack or Severe Solar Storm:

Preparing For A Solar Storm Or EMP Attack:

We all hope that something like this will not happen, but as it is said so perfectly, like a thief in the night will I come. This coming of an earth changing Event is most likely behind the esoteric meaning behind that statement. Even if the babylonians knew exactly when this was going to happen, they would not tell the people. If you knew it was coming, what would you do?

Again, live well folks. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Live your life day by day in the space of purity and substantial self-fulfillment. Fulfill your spirit, not your ego. Be righteous knowing that all things are karmic in nature and we will ALL get what we put out. We reap what we sow.

May you all sow goodness and abundant tranquility in a world that goes around and around. There is no better time than now and you want to always know in your heart that you are happy and content at the end of each day. It is all about the quality of the enjoinment of living good pure day at a time.

Seer's picture

You're nothing but negative! :-)

fleur de lis's picture

Since when should we believe that warnings out of DC have our best interests in mind? It's always a shell game. Right on the heels of Benghazi--even there they are compulsive liars and the truth could be settled in a matter of days. 

Any mechanical, electrical, natural, etc., threat should be openly discussed by professionals who are not in the employ of DC, which is itself in the employ of lobbies or interests diametrically opposed to the welfare of our nation. 

NidStyles's picture

Honestly if a Solar Flare that strong hit's us, I think we will have bigger problems. Every system with a current running through it will fry, not just the nuclear plants. Everything from airplanes to your life suppurt systems in the hospital. The problem is larger than you are alluding to, and honestly there is no need to worry about it, because nothing can prevent the whole situation, you can only make it 'not as bad'.


Having the Government pay excessively for a fix that will not even work is just a horrible idea. It's on the same level as Carbon Taxes to prevent climate change when you can't even state directly whether it's the carbon emissions causing it.

Seer's picture

Well, carbon IS contributing to "it."  Can we stop playing games with this? (the game being discussing this as though it's a single-source problem, it is NOT)

Now then... why attempt to "fix" something that isn't fixable?  The earth has its cycles and there is nothing that humans can do to alter these events: well, yes, it's "possible" that we could alter the time a BIT, but there is no way that we can stop a cycle from happening, no more than we could stop continental drift.

The next glacial period is a certainty.  Trying to save our iCrap world isn't going to work.

ALL systems FAIL.  With this in mind we have to look at what WE create and ask ourselves whether we're OK with their failure.  I believe it was David Suzuki's daughter who once stated that adults should stop breaking things if they don't know how to fix them.

Tenshin Headache's picture

Here's the thing.

The human species can recover from pretty much everything, given enough time, EXCEPT the massive release of super long-lived radiation from potentially dozens of meltdowns. Fukushima was a WARNING of how serious it can get. Dozens of meltdowns could lead to extinction of many species, including our own.

Now which company is going to step up and prevent that? NONE. That pretty much leaves government. And I can definitely live with that much government. I'm surprised you can't. Think of the global consequences of a massive release of long-lived radiation. I hope you never have the opportunity to experience it rather than think about it.

Money to banks in TARP 1: $700 billion

Cost to prevent extinction: $150 million

Seer's picture

"The human species can recover from pretty much everything, given enough time"

As important as time is it's NOT the thing that keeps us alive, resources are what keeps us alive.  Time is just what we experience as we consume resources.

Knowing that ALL systems eventually fail there is one question you have to ask yourself: is extending/expanding something that is going to fail a good idea?

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homonohumanus's picture

That is false, Grimmich (or whatever is name is properly spelled) wanted to save you and build a lunar station... :lol:

TBT or not TBT's picture

To absorb energy from, and thereby overload/fry due to electromagnetic fields, a circuit must

A)  resonate with said electromagnetic fields   AND

B)  the field must be strong enough and last long enough to deliver enough energy to destroy some part of the circuit.

I haven't read anywhere that solar mass ejections and carrington-like events are thought to involve enough energy at high enough frequencies to fry most electronics, including of course those on airplanes, which aren't connected to electrical grids.  Airplanes get hit by lightning rountinely enough, and keep right on flying, despite the broad spectrum of electromagnetic emissions at high intensity, and very large electrical currents.

EMP is an entirely different animal, as the field strength is much higher, though for a shorter time than with a solar radiation type event, and is very broad spectrum all at once.    All circuits absorb energy from an EMP because all circuits resonate at some frequencIES  (not just one, lots of them), and EMP contains lots of energy at a wide range of frequencies.      Microelectronics are more vulnerable than power equipment in some ways, simply because of the vulnerability of the "field oxide" in the tiny transistors and aluminum traces on-chip.  Small voltage differences at short ranges in these chips can generate electrical fields far stronger than in large scale power equipment, and destroy the field oxides with very little energy absorbtion required.     As the US and USSR discovered during high atmospheric and space detonations of H bombs, vacuum tubes can handle a hell of a lot of transient additional current, but some still do fail.    Microelectronics fry very easily.   All of your fly by wire aircraft could crash after an EMP, and a lot of cars and farming tractors would never start again, short of bolting on carburetors to them and good old fashioned electrical stuff big enough to see with the naked eye.

The worst of all, Apple products and all of their apps and media contents would of course die.   No strapping carburetors to them.  Game over.   We'd have to get used to playing board games, and cards, and listening to acoustic strumming and warbling live, to candle light.

Seer's picture

" a lot of cars and farming tractors would never start again, short of bolting on carburetors to them"

Most farming tractors are diesel.  My tractor is.  So is my truck.  Neither have any electronic circuits* other than alternators, which, in a pinch I could do without (until I had to restart the vehicles) : I should probably have spares anyway (they'll wear out with or w/o an EMP event).  * Tractor is simple; truck's vintage is before all the engine management crap came out (though it does have an electronic glow plug controller; these are cheap for this truck and I could have a spare; can also just short around it and heat the plugs up manually).

machineh's picture

Still, it would be awfully cool to take an iPad with a carburetor and a tuned exhaust into Starbucks ... my tablet blows your tablet's doors off.

dwdollar's picture

So a Solar Flare could cripple Uncle Scam's ability to engage in domestic terrorism, foreign warfare, and other crimes against humanity? Please tell me why I should care about that. Those Nuclear power plants are gonna meltdown regardless. Best to get it over with and move on.

TBT or not TBT's picture

An EMP could kill up to 90% of the population, including you, thanks to stuff like disease and cannabalism.   You have food, clean water, body fat on you?   People will be desperate to eat.

Seer's picture

Same as it ever was...

"We stand today at a crossroads:
One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness.
The other leads to total extinction.
Let us hope we have the wisdom to make the right choice."

- Woody Allen

CH1's picture

Here's the problem:

The (very many) scientists who have signed-on to global warming have lost all credibility. So, why should we believe them on this horror story?

If a guy is going to promote one set of wild ideas to retain position and get grant money, why is the second set of ideas believable?

gaoptimize's picture

The scientists that have studied EMP are serious physical science experts, not an ideollogy-driven movement.

carambar's picture

lost their credibility? what are you talking about?  It has been proven, months ago, after review that the data were correct. the deniers were were too fast claiming victory. what victory by the way?


GernB's picture

I think hes referring to items like this comment in IPCC code implying they are avoiding data which does not reenforce thier coclusions:

;Specify period over which to compute the regression (stop in 1960 to avoid
; the decline)

TBT or not TBT's picture

One thing is pretty clear.  We are living in an "interglacial period" between long long ice ages.    Those seldom last the 12K years or so the current one has.

Also, global warming is very clearly a good thing, both for biodiversity and for humans, when your baseline is the Little Ice Age conditions, or any of the various Dark Ages, nevermind real ice ages like the one we are due for.  

Also, sea levels have been rising fairly steadily since the peak of the last Ice Age.    San Francisco was about 20 miles inland a mere 10K years ago, and there was no "Golden Gate"   That is a recently excavated feature created by buttloads of melt water rushing through there for a rather short time, on a geological scale.

NidStyles's picture

He's arguing about AGW, most people can understand that the discussion is about AGW not whether the climate actually changes.

Urban Redneck's picture

AGW is meaningless if causation is not properly established.  The AGW crowd's idea of an interdisciplinary approach is a weatherman, a banker, a lawyer, a statistician, and a physicist building a black box model (and the banker has veto rights).  Such basic disciplines a chemistry, biology, geology, and civil engineering are under-represented.

TBT or not TBT's picture

AGW is a common goal we need to all get behind, because ice ages are bad, and we are due for one.   So I'm all over AGW.   We need to have a plan to create some.

JonNadler's picture

it was proven months ago? I must have missed the NYT article. They "prove" every couple of months that GW is true  HA HA HA

NidStyles's picture

Yeah their data from models that they created on computers that they programmed. That isn't Science, that's Organized Religion.

Seer's picture

I suppose that sticking your finger up in the air is more accurate?

Not defending here, but... There's plenty of things that humans have come to better understand owing to "science*."

* Science is a discipline.  It's a process.

Can data be distorted?  Does a bear shit in the woods?  Fucking, duh!  Humans are deceptive, which means that those who are on the other side of the coin are no more likely to be less deceptive.  Logic and common sense (not paranoia) are your best tools...

GernB's picture

Having an open process where skeptics have access to your base data and programs would have been a good start to a true scientific process. Its difficult to classify it as science when skeptics have to file freedom of information requests to even see the process by which the results were acheived.

odatruf's picture

Of all the things I'd spend public money on as insurance against a future disaster, this isn't in the top ten.

CH1's picture

Transformers fail every day. Then, they replace them.

This is some major event?

Seer's picture

It's a recession if your neighbor loses his/her job.  It's a depression if YOU lose your job.

Imagine SEVERAL of these things going all at the same time.  How long will it be before YOUR transformer is replaced?  How long will that food in your fridge freezer last?  How about in the nearby store?  What about fresh water systems?  Heating or cooling for your dwelling?

It's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.

No, we cannot avert adding more "protection" to a system that WILL fail in hopes of keeping it from failing.  I'd think that people could see where this is leading- it's a reversing course, not a forwarding one.  Simpler, smaller systems are our future.

TBT or not TBT's picture

The big ones that make the backbone power grids function are special order, from the other side of the planet.    Several years wait list.   How about that?

And how about ALL the transformers, even the smaller ones that step down to serve your house, ALL going up in flames, all at once?     

What do you suppose in the global production capacity, versus an instant demand for enough transformers to reestablish the entire power grid of the world's number one economy?

Would these suppliers take the dollar at that point, based on the full faith and credit of the U.S. government, which will not have any computers running anymore, no mail system, no employees coming to work because there is no way to pay them, no way for their pay to be exchanged for that perishable "food" stuff, that comes from that supply chain thingy that used to exist?