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DC to NE – Drop Dead!

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If you’ve lived in NY for a long time, it is very hard to forget this now famous, headline. I think the Daily News will be able to reuse this title page again sometime over the next month or two. NY and NJ have stuck out their hands, and requested a very lumpy $80B from Washington to cover the cost of the clean up from Sandy.

 

 

Man is this bad timing. If granted, the cost to the Feds would be reflected in the 2013 budget. Good-bye to any hope of improvement in the overall deficit picture if this nut has to be paid. The $80b that has been requested is more than the revenue from a reversal of the +$250k Bush tax cut. It comes to $530 for every worker in America.

 

The 2011 Budget Control Act limits annual payments of disaster relief to $11B. So the $80B is going to require a special spending bill. That’s not going to be easy to achieve in Washington with all the Cliff/money issues that are now on the table.

 

NY’s big Democratic Senator, Chuck Schumer is very much in the middle of this. He knows he has problems with this request. From The Hill (Link).

 

“There is no doubt this is going to be a hard fight. It comes in the middle of strenuous negotiations around the fiscal cliff.”

 

Schumer is a weasel; he also had this to say about the process of getting the necessary legislation passed:

 

I am working to keep the quest for Sandy aid separate from the talks and to preserve a tradition of not offsetting disaster relief.

 

Separate? How can you keep $80B separate? The issue of not offsetting the cost of a disaster by reducing other spending is not going to come easy. Some Republicans are going to insist that there be cuts in the budget to offset a big portion of the Sandy clean up. An aide for Eric Cantor chimed in with this:

 

Cantor has made clear that needs beyond the $11 billion allotted by the Budget Control Act will be properly considered.

 

Properly considered? That is Washington speak for, “No way in Hell”.

 

There is an element of this that is going to prove difficult for the NE legislators. Why are the costs of Sandy so high? Answer:

 

Schumer wants to do away with limits such as a $31,000-per-home cap on repairs because of high home prices and expenses in the New York area.

 

Ah! That explains it. The numbers are big because of expensive beachfront homes. This is not going to sell very well, nor should it.

 

I’m looking for a big fight over this money, and I think it has to be part of the Fiscal Cliff discussions. It is too big a number to sweep under the carpet. There is the broader issue of what really should be the role of the Federal Government when weather turns bad. It’s way past time for a discussion of the costs of cleaning up properties that are in storms way. The folks who don’t live on ocean water, are subsidizing everyone who does.

 

 

 

If you live on the West Coast the weather report this morning is terrible. Another “Pineapple Express” is headed to land. The expectations are for winds north of 80mph and rainfall of as much as 12 inches. If that is what happens, expect to see pictures of houses being washed down the streets of Bel Air. A storm like this could easily cost $10B.

 

 

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Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:03 | 3021635 JohnG
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Taxpayers problem.

FTFY.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:10 | 3021658 NotApplicable
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Dollar holder problem.

FTFY

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:21 | 3021483 Moe Howard
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Fuck 'em. Pay for your own shit.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:19 | 3021480 Flakmeister
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Well, I would just love to see who is going to pay for the cost of the 2012 drought which is expected to continue into 2013...

http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/03/news/economy/drought-crop-insurance/index.htm

 

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:03 | 3021436 DarthVaderMentor
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I'm sure the Bernank has doubled his order of paper and ink. Let's hope the printers hold out with this year end binge of printing!

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:08 | 3021452 Winston Churchill
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Ben's only got HP printers.Red ink only.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:03 | 3021431 Debeachesand Je...
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Chuck Schumer is a certified ASSHOLE period.

You know the O man will leave Bloomberg and "fat boy" high and dry with the "no money honey" in this Budget for your Blue State Asses.

I'm reelected and I don't give a flying fuck about your mess period.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 14:52 | 3021379 Forbes
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$80 billion? Who dreamed up that number? Initial estimates were $20-25 billion in insured losses, with no hurricane clause deductible. How are the losses four times higher? Sounds like an absurdity--an opening to negotiations...like Casablanca's Rick Blaine at the souk with Ilsa, "well, for friends of Rick we have a special price," as a drastically discounted price tag is displayed.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:49 | 3021580 Bicycle Repairman
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"Initial estimates were $20-25 billion in insured losses"

Quite simply the initial estimates were pre-election total BS.  I called for $100B and I still do.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:22 | 3021712 cougar_w
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$100B or GTFO.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:14 | 3021676 SmallerGovNow2
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Agreed but no matter how much it is WHY is it the federal government's job to pay anything?  This is beyond ridiculous...  Shouldn't have for 911, or katrina, or rita, or....  WTF

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:16 | 3021687 Bicycle Repairman
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You know why.  Sure you do.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 20:36 | 3022390 willwork4food
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To fight the terrorists?

I give up.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 22:06 | 3022576 Bicycle Repairman
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Cause ol' Chuckie Shumer ain't leavin' his peeps in the lurch.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:07 | 3021448 the not so migh...
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Its a planned money laundering operaton for broke local goverments.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:09 | 3021653 NotApplicable
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Indeed. Uncle Sugar funded the creation of municipal "Departments of Sustainability" a few years back in order to setup a new system for grant distributions. It all started out about making them more energy efficient, but it quickly expanded to be the point-of-contact for all things fedgov.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:06 | 3021447 NotApplicable
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"Let no crisis go to waste."

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:36 | 3021498 TruthInSunshine
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Bruce Krasting became welfare queen & socialist whiner on 11/29/2012

Your former self is missed, Bruce.

Choomwagon going up!

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:33 | 3021743 TruthInSunshine
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Hey Bruce, maybe Mayor McBloomberg and all the best friends of everyone's favorite bankster puppet piece of ass, one Ben Bernkankle, including Lloyd "Holy Padre" Blankfein & Jamie "Blythe On" Dimon, will do a charity event and raise lots of BernaxBux for what New Yawkas are calling "1 zillion times worse than Katrina."

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 14:46 | 3021353 kaiserhoff
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Yes, by all means, let's subsidize the most arrogant, obnoxious, over-paid libtards in the country.

I phart New Yawk.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 14:35 | 3021302 lasvegaspersona
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Do you suppose the DC insiders are thinking: "I wonder if I can just get another $100B out of the system without blowing the whole thing apart?"

or do theyreally think :" hey we gotta pay this back some day so we should be cautious" /sarc off

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:09 | 3021444 NotApplicable
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"I wonder if I can just get another $100B out of the system without losing my seat?"

FTFY!

The idea that they would even consider anything else is silliness.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 14:33 | 3021285 BraveSirRobin
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$80,000,000,000

Look, I just created 80 billion dollars! See how easy that is?

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:14 | 3021678 cougar_w
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Chump. Billions are for little girls. Throw three more zeros on that bitch if you're a real man.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:33 | 3021746 BraveSirRobin
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But my finger hurts...

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 13:48 | 3021067 bank guy in Brussels
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110 billion ...

Ben Bernanke can print that right up with his morning coffee

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 13:40 | 3021038 Orly
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Pineapple Express.  I was wondering where that term came from.

:D

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 20:03 | 3022324 Vendetta
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a movie

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 00:23 | 3022797 Orly
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You got it!

Best place to get stock is in Canadia.  Ontario. Highgrade-seeds. Look 'em up.  All proprietary stuff in a mix. Quiet, cash, reliable.  You won't be disappointed. 

:D

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:29 | 3021736 falak pema
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its the papayas; they were jealous and wanted the pineapples to fall into the sea! 

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 14:34 | 3021295 BraveSirRobin
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Probalbly not the pineapple lobby.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:11 | 3021661 cougar_w
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I hear the Pineapple Board are bringing suit against the Amalgamated Union of Meteorologists for misappropriation and slander. They are demanding the "Pineapple Express" be renamed after another fruit. Or simply, given a number, like how is done with highways.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:53 | 3021817 Orly
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Yeah, it's kind of an uppity buzz anyway.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 12:51 | 3020772 worbsid
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Here in the high desert we had an early frost that destroyed the fruit blossoms for this year.  Obviously a federal grant is needed.  BTW: this happens three out of four years.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:24 | 3021495 earnyermoney
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New Mexico, Arizona? What kind of fruit blossoms?

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 22:50 | 3022654 perchprism
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And anyway, it's called a late frost, not an early frost, when it kills off the blossoms.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 14:41 | 3021330 kaiserhoff
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Think you got a bidness plan, there, pardner.  Just be sure to point out how green the shoots used to be.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 14:35 | 3021303 azzhatter
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My neighbors roof leaked from a heavy downpour. I helped him clean up. We are both applying for federal aid and an Obamaphone

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:17 | 3021475 Bruce Krasting
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My neigbor works from home and had no power for 9 days. FEMA is paying him $900.

I work from home, had no power for 11 days, I don't have the balls to ask FEMA for dough. I could probably get it if I filled out the paperwork.

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 00:31 | 3022808 Bear
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Please take the money ... all monies extracted from the US government by ZH'ers is money well spent

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 21:35 | 3022509 dexter_morgan
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Get ya some Obamaphones regardless.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 16:04 | 3021638 NotApplicable
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Every time I think about applying for any freebies from Uncle Sugar, I remind myself that they are hardly free, but rather, a mechanism to foster dependency while giving them a future choke-point of control.

So I do without, or fund it myself.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 17:07 | 3021872 Mercury
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I hear ya but you guys are a dying breed.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 12:51 | 3020762 Mercury
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Since when is it the federal government's responsibility or duty to cover all uninsured losses?

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 00:07 | 3022765 eatthebanksters
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Since Obama has to pay off his debts!

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 17:53 | 3021991 chdwlch1
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Couldn't agree more!!!  It is not theirs to give!!!

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/12.10/notyours.html

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 01:22 | 3022871 Real Estate Geek
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Thanks for that link!

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 17:18 | 3021904 Clowns on Acid
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Hey Merc - The Feds bailed out the bankrupt banks....so why not home losses?

 

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 15:08 | 3021451 NotApplicable
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Why do you hate freedom?

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