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End of the World? Hear the 2012 Prophecy … Direct from the Mouths of the Mayan Priests

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Ignore Second-Hand Information … Hear the Real Prophecy

Preface:  The Mayan 2012 end of the world “prophecy” is scaring the pants off numerous children and suicidal teeangers.  1-in-10 people believe that the Mayans have prophesied the end of the world (and see this). A Google search for "Maya 2012" currently brings up 325 million hits, only slightly less than a search for  the most popular words.

This post is a public service announcement to reach children and adults scared about the Mayan prophecy … to show with the Mayan priests’ own words that the world will not end in 2012.

Many people are talking about the Mayan 2012 prophecy.

But few know what the Mayan priests actually said about 2012.

In reality, Mayan elders say something very different from what you might have heard.

For example, Wakatel Utiw – leader of the National Council of Elders Mayas, Xinca and Garifuna, Day Keeper of the Mayan Calendar, and 13th generation Quiche Mayan Spiritual Leader -  says that the end of the Maya calendar has nothing to do with the end of the world.

He also explains that December 21, 2012 might not even be the end of this cycle of the calendar:

Contrary to popular belief the living elders of the Maya do not agree that December 21, 2012 is the end of their calendar. A new “Sun” represents the beginning of a new Long Count cycle in the calendar system of approximately 5,200 years, which they say may not happen for many years.

And see this.

(A brand new film called “Shift of the Ages” tells the Mayans’ beliefs in detail … and gives their true warnings.)

Similarly, Tz’utujil Mayan elder Tata Pedro Cruz says that the world will not end in 2012:

Mayan elder and priest Carlos Barrios – who has extensively studied the Mayan calendars – says:

Anthropologists visit the temple sites and read the inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not read the signs correctly. It’s just their imagination. Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed.”

Leonzo Barreno – a Guatemalan native who was trained by Mayan elders to read the ancient calendars – says says the ‘apocalypse’ concept is a false interpretation of the Long Count calendar, that the Mayan elders taught him that December 21 this year simply marks the start of a new calendar:

‘There are two sides to the story,’ he told CBC. ‘The one that we know is this apocalyptic meaning that has been given to the Long Count.

 

‘The other side of the story is the Mayan side, which you rarely see on media articles, because they never interview my own people.’

 

‘For them it’s a joyous event, not an apocalyptic event. What is coming is the end of a calendar and the beginning of a new one.

Ricardo Cajas – president of the Collective of Native Organizations of Colectivo de Organizaciones Indígenas de Guatemala – says the date did not represent an end of humanity or fulfillment of the catastrophic prophecies, but that the new cycle “supposes changes in human consciousness.” (Translation).

Pedro Celestino Yac Noj – a Mayan sage living in Cuba – says:

The 21st is for giving thanks and gratitude and the 22nd welcomes the new cycle, a new dawn.

Rather than being the end of the world, Mayan priest Jose Manrique Esquive believes that 2012 may bring a transition to a better time for humankind.

And AP noted in 2009:

Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly “running out” on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it’s not the end of the world.

 

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Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists.

 

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Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says the doomsday theories spring from Western, not Mayan ideas.

And if you don’t believe what the current Mayan leaders say, please remember that archaeologists recently found a cache of ancient Mayan calendars which goes thousands of years past 2012. And see this.

Note: The Mayan elders do make prophetic warnings, but it has nothing to do with 2012. Specifically, they warn that we need to rein in war and pollution or we will destroy ourselves.

Given that numerous end of the world prophecies have come and gone without incident, and that the Pope has declared that – due to a miscalculation – we are currently in AD 2016, not 2012 – it is smart to take all date-specific predictions with a spoonful of cynicism.

 

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Mon, 12/10/2012 - 19:15 | 3050080 Parrotile
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Seeing as we're both doing a late shift on that particular Friday it'll be interesting to see what rolls up to the ED doors.

OUR predition - there WILL be an outbreak of "The Crazies" on the 21st, especially seeing as it's the last Friday before Xmas, and we usually have an excess of "unfortunate accidents" around this time of the year anyhow. You would be (not) surprised how many of the Melbourne under 25 population would qualify for posthumous Darwin Awards without prompt (and these days costly) Medical intervention!

Interesting that we've seen a reduction in Paracetamol / Acetaminophen deliberate overdosage cases so far this Summer (for us!) - in fact quite a big reduction. I'm told that the Pharmacy has stocked up on acetylcisteine as usual, and the vials are almost collecting dust.

Fingers crossed that this trend continues, and maybe Christmas 2012 will turn out to be a far happier Christmas for all our "usual customers"!!

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 18:53 | 3050030 Joke Heros
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The sun stone in the photo is not Maya, and is often mislabeled as the "Aztec calendar" when it really is just a diagram of calendar days, and diagram of the creation/ending of the 4 ages prior to the current. Ironically, the current age is said to end by movements of the earth/earthquakes.

Someone mentioned it earlier, but like the Aztec tribes, modern Hopi and Maya Indians, among others, also share the belief of the cycle of ages, thinking circularly rather than linearly. Just like the outer band of the Aztec sunstone or even a modern clock, time loops over and over. It's at this beginning/end point where, as the Maya and Hopi are saying now, we respect the process and try to reevaluate the age we live in.

Which is why the non indigenous morons who say the Maya are predicting the end of the world are nothing more than uneducated carnival barkers. Unfortunately, when we all wake up on Dec 22, the Maya will be the unfortunate victims of ridicule for something they did not predict.

BTW, for those who repeat the saying, the Maya did NOT disappear, and this mantra should not be repeated. Stop watching Ancient Aliens or even NatGeo/Discovery for any information regarding their history. Abandoning ceremonial centers is not the same as disappearing. The masses just returned to their forest homes, not after certain ruling clans were eliminated in warfare. No space ships, no aliens.

GW thanks for spreading this message, and including modern Maya viewpoints, though the simple minded seemed to have already made up their mind that Maya = end of the world prediction.

 

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 00:42 | 3051042 Matt
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The reason people think the world ends is that the previous world ended after 13 B'aktun = around 5200 years, so if it is a cycle, the world ends every ~5200 years.

According to a guide at one of the sites I visited, there were two classes of Maya, the educated priests that made up 5% of the population, and the common farmers that made up 95% of the population. Before the downfall, only priests were allowed to perform sacrifices. They were also the only ones with a formal education. 

They called themselves the "real men" and the common people were called something like sheep. When you died, you had to pass through the seven layers of hell and 11 layers of heaven, and if you were a good citizen, then their savior character would appear in the form of a Jaguar and help you get through the trials in the seven hells. If you made it all the way through it all, you got reborn as a "real man" i.e. the elites.

They also had a thing every 50 or 52 years where everyone would destroy their earthly belongings, forgiveness of debts, etc. and start making stuff all over again. Excellent systems of social control, broken-window stimulus, etc.

While they didn't disappear, they had severe population loss; in the Yucatan, they are estimated to have lost 90% of their population, and in Belize, around 95%. This is all estimated to have happened between 900 and 1200 AD.

If 95% of the people in any western country died off in a couple generations these days, and all the post-secondary institutions, libraries and museums became ruins, I think most people would qualify that as TEOTWAWKI.

 

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:52 | 3049681 steve from virginia
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Two years max, then the shit which is already hitting the fan will have broken the fan:

 

Simple oil price chart ...

 

In two years or less what economies can pay for crude will be less than what it costs to bring crude to the marketplace. Shortages that arise from this simple dynamic will be permanent ... as in thousands/millions of years.

 

In addition, there is no way to cheat, evade, negotiate, bargain, beg, whine, wheedle or kill our way around this process and its outcome. Our ability to raise money by borrowing will be useless and it is likely that all debt will become worthless at this time ... for this reason.

 

We have about 2 years to come up with a voluntary conservation scheme or a conservation scheme is going to be shoved up our asses. Sorry, no reach-around.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:51 | 3049676 el Gallinazo
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The Mayans are long gone.  Those pyramids are probably thousands of years older than mainstream archeologists state as is the great pyramid at Giza.  Perhaps the people who call themselves Mayans are genetically descended from the people who built those pyramids and devised that calendar, and perhaps not, but even if they are, they know as much about the real intent of the calendar as a barefoot Baptist preacher in Alabama knows about the esoteric knowledge between Jesus and his apostles.  Not that I am writing that the end of this month is the end of the world.  However, I do expect some very, very strange things to happen, as TPTW (the powers that were) cannot just let this go by.  As some dickhead from Chicago put it, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."  Perhaps another false flag bigger and better than 9/11.  A nuked mid-sized USA city, or a 3D holographic alien invasion, or the announcement by NASA that we are about to be smacked by a giant asteroid at 80 km a second (which turns out to be a computer error when it doesn't happen).   I have found (tentatively) from a lot of studying and sifting (I am retired),

 

1)  That the end of the Maya calendar corresponds to the end of a lot of other indigenous calendars around the world including the Aztec and the Hopi.

 

2)  If it represents any major change at all, it is primarily a change in human consciousness.

 

As to the end of the world, we don't need no stinkiiiing  ancient calendar to figure that one out.  Anyone who knows anything about biology and physics knows that when those mixed plutonium rods in elevated storage in Fuckyoushima go, it's lights out for all but the cockroaches.

 

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 19:25 | 3050110 New World Chaos
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Glad to see other people get onto this- I've warned about an alien 9/11, a nuke in the London financial district, or a derivatives blowup on Dec. 21.  Werner von Braun warned about asteroid and alien hoaxes for decades.  If they're going to do it, they will do it on Dec. 21.  I am calling an epic fail.  2012 will be the beginning of the end for them.  More on this later.

Remember the Olmecs?  They were the ancestral civilization of central America, noted for carving giant stone heads.  The heads look strongly African (big lips, wide, flat noses).  The heads wear carved helmets which resemble Nubian military helmets from around the time of Ramses II.  Nubia was Egypt's main rival back in the day.  The Nubians actually built many more pyramids than the Egyptians (though they are much smaller).  There are similarities between Mayan mythology and Nubian mythology.  The Mayans themselves even look like they might be part black. 

Establishment historians can't admit that black people might have done something awesome, and they might have done it thousands of years before Columbus.  I am guessing they started between Egypt and Somalia and had to circumnavigate most of Africa before they even set out accross the Atlantic.  Break out a globe and look how far they travelled. 

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 12:38 | 3052115 el Gallinazo
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Werner von Braun was a dyed in the wool Nazi SS major.  He could have been executed multiple times at Nuremberg (Osama bin Laden proved that a person can die more than once) for his war crimes with slave, underground labor at Peenemünde if he weren't so valuable to the Project Paperclip guys.  The report of the alien invasion hoax lies with the statements of Carol Rosin.  While she is well meaning and probably honest, as her two hour interview on Veritas Radio indicates, she is also quite the doofus.  A better, very brief portrait of von Braun is given by the late and lamented Fred Bell in his 2009 Veritas interview.  His demeanor in NASA hadn't changed a bit from Peenemünde.  Furthermore, NASA was founded almost exclusively by German Nazi scientists brought in under Operation Paperclip.  Even its name was a sick joke - NASA - NAZI.  In short, I wouldn't trust anything von Braun had to say.  While many people speak the truth when confronted with pending (cancer) death, this does not hold true for religious fanatics, and I group Nazis in that category.  Which does not mean that von Braun wasn't speaking the truth about an alien invasion hoax courtesy of TPTW.  They certainly have the technology to do it with Project Bluebeam allowing them to project huge, 3D holographic moving images and audio where ever they chose.  Caveat emptor.

 

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 19:28 | 3050124 akak
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Establishment historians can't admit that black people might have done something awesome, and they might have done it thousands of years before Columbus.

Neither can Trav777 --- according to him, they STILL haven't invented the wheel, or plumbing.

Poor, poor darkies.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 18:43 | 3050012 smiler03
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Don't worry, Alzheimer's can be treated if caught early enough, have a happy christmas ;O) 

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:49 | 3049624 New World Chaos
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<--- Credit card cash advance for a last bit of silver?            <--- Bad idea.

Note that Dec. 21 is a triple witching options expiration (to coincide with a triple rebirth of the Sun).  It's almost like someone lined up the cycles on purpose.

Usual naked shorting applies.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:31 | 3049580 paintman
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In fifteen days, I will throw out my current calendar and replace it with a new one.  In 1000 years, will some archeaologist find my old one and determine that I believed the world would end on 1-1-2013?

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:28 | 3049566 Ol Man
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The last year that I can configure a calender in Word 2010 is 2022. 

I guess Bill Gates thinks the world will end that year...

8>P

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:51 | 3049670 Tuco Benedicto ...
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No, just a planned culling of the world population by 95% by then.  He and his wife are good humanitarians.  Take your vaccine, sit down, shutup and die!

Tuco

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 19:19 | 3050091 Cathartes Aura
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or just go outside. . .

sweat activated vaccines, *nods*

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:24 | 3049553 LoneStarHog
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Okay...just to play both sides of this, my strategy is:  1) All chores have been suspended until December 22nd - cleaning house/shed/workshop, washing Harley/truck, etc. 2) The evening of December 20th I will have two half-gallon containers of Blue Bell ice cream, of the most devilish flavors, which will be eaten in one orgasmic evening ... I am working on Mayan Local Time, so all the bullshit about datelines, timezones, etc. which are being argued by the pseudo-intellectuals will have no effect on me ... Anyways ... Should still be coming off a good sugar high on December 22nd for all those chores ... and ... if there is no December 22nd I will have wasted no energy, and sugar is a preservative, so I should ferment for many decades ... Those are my plans as I await the outcome. :)

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:23 | 3049543 Mad Mohel
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Mayan 2012? It is the equivalent of getting worked up over changing the office calendar at the end of the year. They just have a longer time span.

At this point I worry more about forgetting my Metamucil and getting caught in a tough dump.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 18:05 | 3049917 bank guy in Brussels
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Try beer instead ...

Or hearty European red wine from the south of France

Both are very good for, er, 'digestion' ...

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:19 | 3049536 R_J
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- The "Nasties" will of course take advantage of this shite on dec,21.

Lotsa people will believe WHATEVER they are given...just like Re Li GioN.

Theres a reason they hooked everyone up to THEIR MatriCKz.

 

R_J

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:45 | 3049366 Savyindallas
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I wish they would STFU  -and I request that ZH remove this article immediately. I am counting on extreme volatility between now and December 20th to be able to pay for my Chrsitmas.  

 

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:44 | 3049365 jwoop66
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Hope AND Change!!!!   Salvation!!!

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:23 | 3049301 strannick
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Thanks GW for that recapitulation of populist pap.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:22 | 3049299 Jena
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Voyager 1 is about to leave our solar system.  Voyager 2 is a ways behind.  If anything is out there, they'll see them coming and resolve to squish us like the bugs we are to keep us from getting any further.

 

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/news/voyager_1_new_region.html

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 18:48 | 3050019 KingTut
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Neither Voyager will ever encouter aiens.  100+ years from now they will be found and brought back to a museum here on earth. 

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:19 | 3049289 rsnoble
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Don't worry the fear mongerers will simply tell everyone it was an error in how the year was perceived and that the correct EOW event was supposed to occur in 2021, not 2012 and they will continue to fuck you out of billions until that time and have 10 years to think up the next bullshit lie.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:39 | 3049348 hustler etiquette
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I wonder if those apocoplypse bunkers at undisclosed locations with rations of food offer refunds. 

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:46 | 3049649 nofluer
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My favorite apocalypse story was about the secret, hidden survival bunker with all the modern conveniences including an internet video monitoring system and a gas powered generator to run them... and some smartazz broke into the generator bunker and stole it. Now THAT's a SECURE bunker!!! ROTFLMBO!!!

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:17 | 3049280 tip e. canoe
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the true purpose of the mayan calendar?

Electromagnetic Changes in our Solar System

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEo3PBaVha8

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 19:35 | 3050144 Cathartes Aura
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thank you for that link - well worth the few minutes.

Shift.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 12:40 | 3052127 tip e. canoe
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...hit the fan :)

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:10 | 3049252 Disenchanted
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It will be the end of the world as we know it.

 

but I feel fine...

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 14:56 | 3049210 gdogus erectus
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Great, someone raining on my doom porn again....

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:58 | 3049452 johnQpublic
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come 22 december, i'm really going to miss the doom porn

really cant fap to much else anymore

 

i have wondered how soon after the 21st you will start to see storable food and other preps on ebay and craigslist at like 90% off

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:12 | 3049259 trav777
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all of this confusion might have something to do with the fact that writing, in the sense that we think of it, along with recorded prophesy and history, was brought to the Americas mostly by Pizarro and Cortez.  The Mayans were already gone by then

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:54 | 3049687 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Come on Trav!  Juan Pizarro is still with us.  He was a very good lefty for the Chisox and was a very good hitter, often pinch hitting!  Geez!

Tuco

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:48 | 3049391 blunderdog
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been awhile, trav.  you in semi-retirement or something?

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 14:44 | 3049178 wandstrasse
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sometimes I doubt what is worse... that it ends or that it goes on...

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 14:34 | 3049155 Broomer
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If it wasn't for the "2" at 3 o'clock I'd never have noticed those hieroglyphs were "QE".

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 14:11 | 3049083 smart girl
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The Mayans had 12 months and 20 days to their calendar, thus stopping it logically at 2012...Visited a Mayan Temple in Belize, I think it was Mayan, it was not good juju. "Felt" like human sacrifices were held on the flat-topped pyramid we climbed. Ever since, when I hear about Mayan prophecy I pray to Jesus (for all our past, present, and future). Nothing good can come of limiting neg beliefs.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 14:42 | 3049173 slackrabbit
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The Fed gives off bad juju as well...

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 14:16 | 3049106 George Washington
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No, Mayans never did sacrifices.  It was the Toltecs, I think, who did that.  Please at least learn about a culture that you're trying to 'dis ...

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:08 | 3049243 Winston Churchill
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GW

Are you sure on that.Saw a documentary claiming that remains

of human sacrifices were found in the water cisterns of the Mayans.

It was theorized that at the end of a super drought they turned to

human sacrifice to replenisnh the dwindling water supply,thereby poisoning

themselves.Carbon dating confirmed the timeline.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 17:42 | 3049853 George Washington
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My understanding is that the Mayans were peaceful, but the Toltecs later conquered some of their holdings and instituted sacrifices...

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 18:12 | 3049938 Joe moneybags
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The Mayan civilization died out quickly, right after their founding of a central bank.  The human sacrifices of their gold miners turned out to be a mistake, too.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 17:48 | 3049871 akak
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That used to be the generally accepted understanding of the ancient Mayans as of several decades ago, but advances in deciphering the Mayan script in the last 30 years have led to a re-evaluation of that assumption.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:07 | 3049255 Freddie
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Sad stuff to see that they destroyed themselves trying to "save" themselves.  Doing something insane to save themselves like like....QE Infinity.

Can we throw The Ben Bernank in the cistern now?

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:51 | 3049669 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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The Fed has adopted the Mayan system, sort of…

Mayan Long Count Calendar = FED long Count printer

Cataclysmic end of paper money with the adoption of electronic money, a new dawn of thievery will come with the sunrise

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:01 | 3049207 akak
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George Washington, the Mayans did in fact perform human sacrifices, but more archeologists and anthropologists believe that they did not perform them on anywhere near the monstrous scale that the Aztecs did.  ALL Mesoamerican civilizations, starting with the Olmecs (the big stone head guys) engaged in human sacrifice to some degree, in fact.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:46 | 3049375 blunderdog
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It's all just context, anyway.  What do we call it when we send young people to a desert 8,000 miles away to get blown up by a bunch of bearded primitives?

"Spreading democracy."

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:30 | 3049562 New World Chaos
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Yes, our occult puppetmasters have outdone the Aztecs by many orders of magnitude, but they have to disguise their human sacrifices as something else.

They hate us for our freedoms.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 15:07 | 3049240 TheFourthStooge-ing
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'Mesoamericanism' eternal nature of extorting the weak, harvesting the poor.

But hey, Indo-Olmeccian citizenism is as Tibetan-Mayan-Azteccian citizenism does.

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