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Big Brother Spying Didn’t Stop Connecticut School Shooter … Or 9/11

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peeping tom eye hole Big Brother Spying Didnt Stop Connecticut School Shooter ... Or 9/11

 

Beyond any doubt, Big Brother has come to America.

Americans are .

Everyone in the country is spied on … and even top generals, Congress men and CIA directors  can be targeted.

The separation between spy agencies and military operations has disappeared … to the point where the same unaccountable government agency which spies on all Americans also decides who gets assassinated by drones.

And anyone who questions government actions or policies may be labeled a potential terrorist.

And yet – even with Big Brother sticking his nose in every aspect of our lives – that total surveillance didn’t stop the Connecticut school shooter.  Or the Batman shooter, the shooter of Congresswoman Giffords, Columbine, Virginia Tech, etc. etc. etc.

Of course, widespread spying on Americans began before 9/11 (confirmed here and here. And see this)

And U.S. and allied intelligence heard the 9/11 hijackers plans from their own mouths:

  • An FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000. Specifically, investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New York Times notes:

    Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

  • The National Security Agency and the FBI were each independently listening in on the phone calls between the supposed mastermind of the attacks and the lead hijacker. Indeed, the FBI built its own antenna in Madagascar specifically to listen in on the mastermind’s phone calls
  • According to various sources, on the day before 9/11, the mastermind told the lead hijacker “tomorrow is zero hour” and gave final approval for the attacks. The NSA intercepted the message that day and the FBI was likely also monitoring the mastermind’s phone calls
  • According to the Sunday Herald, two days before 9/11, Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her “In two days, you’re going to hear big news and you’re not going to hear from me for a while.” U.S. officials later told CNN that “in recent years they’ve been able to monitor some of bin Laden’s telephone communications with his [step]mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded.” Indeed, before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother.
  • And according to CBS News, at 9:53 a.m on 9/11, just 15 minutes after the hijacked plane had hit the Pentagon, “the National Security Agency, which monitors communications worldwide, intercepted a phone call from one of Osama bin Laden’s operatives in Afghanistan to a phone number in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia”, and secretary of Defense Rumsfeld learned about the intercepted phone call in real-time (if the NSA monitored and transcribed phone calls in real-time on 9/11, that implies that it did so in the months leading up to 9/11 as well)

But even with all of that spying, the government didn't stop the hijackers ... even though 9/11 was entirely foreseeable.

Why did we lose our rights if the government isn’t even keeping us safe?

 

 

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Wed, 12/19/2012 - 10:53 | 3078483 Freewheelin Franklin
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But even with all of that spying, the government didn't stop the hijackers ... even though 9/11 was entirely foreseeable.

Why did we lose our rights if the government isn’t even keeping us safe?

 

 

Hmmmm...let me think.....the word......incompetance comes to mind.  

 

 

 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 08:07 | 3077924 MickV
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Total false flag. The kid is a patsy. Media silent (protecting the Usurper and the Criminal Banker NWO) about men in Camos taken down in woods behind Sandy Hook. Coroner says many shots came from rifle, but rifle was found in the car, not on dead Lanza. Reports of multiple shooters that were initially broadcasted ignored, and the "lone crazy" meme embraced by the Useful idiot media. This is how far the Usurper and his handlers will go to exert and seize control. They will kill children-- and then fake cry on TV (while wiping the "tears" w/ his FU finger). What about all the children in poor Paki villages that the Usurper has killed in drone strikes? It will take the blood of patriots and tyrants to turn around, but no such will exists.

As for OBL he was dead many years before. Whomever was killed in Paki was not him--- payoff was downed Heli, and downed drone in Iran. ST6 murdered shortly thereafter--- dead men tell no tales. No pics-- no proof, DNA tests only confirm that a member of OBL family. All a cover for the Usurpers' fraudulent BC that was about to be revealed.

Whether born on the Oval Office desk or in Hawaii, Obama is not a natural born Citizen--- since he was born British, of a British subject father. He is likely still a British subject, doing the bidding of the Rothchilds, and absolving US ctiizen's sovereignty by Usurping the Presidency.

1874 SCOTUS definition of natural born Citizen-- Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162, 167:

"The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

Obama was born of a foreign father, and thus is not eligible. His illegal presidency is part of the plan for the downfall of America. Lord help us.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:56 | 3077862 Money 4 Nothing
Wed, 12/19/2012 - 07:03 | 3077868 Hobbleknee
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Dude, you can't link to images from your email client.  Post them somewhere we can access them.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 07:24 | 3077874 overmedicatedun...
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the secret service is to be dis armed. and will carry non lethal weapons..obuma would then be able to say he lives what he proscribes for others ..seems the elite need guns and YOU DO NOT.

of course one could argue that guns in the .gov hands would never kill children or do mass murder..ruby ridge, waco, and any "police action" you might name would make that obsurd.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:09 | 3077841 David99
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FED is the biggest criminal on this planet.

ZH is only doing good job and reporting correctly. Tyler is a real true person though I have never met him. FED+BOE+ECB+BOJ are the biggest manipulators and JPM +GS +20PD's act on their behalf in this Ponzi Casino. It is all rigged Ponzi Casino. JPM & GS do maximum manipulations from London as no regulators are looking what is going on daily. London is the best place to manipulate Ponzi Casino as no regulators as they are watching porno. Manipulations of highest order without any regulations as every one has been purchased and regulators watching porno. In last 10 trading days, Rio Tinto manipulated by +25% gain and regulators watching porno. JPM doing it. It is just Casino and nothing else. Regulators are watching porno, don't know how Rio Tinto is manipulating daily. On LSE, there is no checks and balances and maximum manipulations daily by Rio Tinto. The market is Casino and the biggest manipulated stock is Rio Tinto and JPM is pulling up daily and no regulations for Rio Tinto in London

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 05:38 | 3077823 Benjamin Glutton
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Given all that has happened over the last 12 years it is not unreasonable to assume that the Fed Res cabal has nuclear and or biological weapons.

 

What else might publicly cower our government so?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:30 | 3077851 Setarcos
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Dunno about the Fed, but Israel has both nuclear and biological WMD.

And the psychos who run Israel and the US Congress are on record for taking the "Samson Option", i.e.  "If we (Israel) go down, so does the whole world."

None of this is any secret.  It is all "hidden in plain sight" on public record.

It's no secret that the Zionist ambition is for "Greater Israel" from the Nile to the Euphrates.  Nor is it any secret that the London and Washington Empires have aided this lunatic "frontier fort" of Western Imperialism since the Sykes/Picot Agreement and the Balfour Declaration.

The "unsinkable USS Israel" was set in motion about 100 years ago and is now unstoppable, or so it seems, considering that all of Congress cower.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 05:55 | 3077827 beaglebog
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Interesting idea, BJ.

 

There was a radio programme on the BBC, recently. 

 

The claim was that there exist "research clubs" ... whose members develop bio and chemical weapons, for a hobby. The club members can do this at home, with little need for specialised equipment.

 

Some bloke from the FBI was saying that, "We are powerless to control or monitor these people."

 

On the one hand, such research clubs might sound "scary" ... but, on the other, they are just an extension of the RKBA.  You could say that these clubs are a necessary extension of the RKBA; as a counter to the State's arsenal of such weapons.

 

 

Alternatively, the purpose of the programme could be to create justification for yet more intrusion into private lives. "We have to search your home, to see whether you are cooking up a bio weapon."

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 05:20 | 3077810 beaglebog
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I was pondering the "right" to self-defence, this morning, whilst I was out with the dogs.

 

I was thinking, "Well, if it's a "right", then how has it been taken away from us? Surely, only privileges can be withdrawn."

The answer came to me.  The "right to self-defence" has not been taken away from us. 

 

 It is true that it has been constrained by the threat of violence ... that is, violent men have said, "If you exercise your right to self-defence, we will imprison or kill you."

 

Buuuuut, we have made the active choice to abide by their threats. At any time, we could choose to exercise our natural right to self-defence.  It is still sitting out there ... looking bemused.

 

Of course, we don't exercise our right.. Because we are cowards. And we are the progeny of several generations of English cowards.

 

It's painful to write that.

 

Our natural right is abrogated by the fear of violence. It is that simple.

 

So, here is the paradox, of sorts ... The right to self-defence can only be constrained IF the right to self-defence is not exercised.

 

The modern meme is "Use it, or lose it."

 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:04 | 3077835 Setarcos
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Sorry, but there are no "natural rights".

It's a very deep and long-running philosophical set of questions , which include "free will" and "morality" and/or "ethics".

In any case and at least since I read Plato some 40 years ago, I have bee forced to conclude that there are NO "natural rights".

A gazelle has no natural right to not get eaten by a lion.  And we have no natural right not to become extinct (as a species) if we destroy our habitat, or happen to fall foul of an asteroid that hits this planet.

To the extent that anyone has any rights, these are man-made laws ... which can be revoked at any time.

According to (the joke) of International Law, no country can be invaded.  Well tell that to Iraqis, Libyans and Syrians.

There is no natural right to self-defence and if you imagine different, then try pulling a gun on some swat team in the pay of the PTB.

Or just try making an unarmed protest for your "rights" and see where that gets you ... I've been there and done that, only narrowly avoiding arrest.

What have you done to "exercise your right to self-defence"?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:22 | 3077846 beaglebog
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The gazelle has the natural right to resist being eaten.

 

That is the only right with which he was born.

 

The rest of your post comprises straw men and an appeal to Authority.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:57 | 3077864 Setarcos
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Crap.  Think before you write.

I appeal to no one, what I say is that NO species has any "natural right", though of course a gazelle will try to escape from instinct.

YOU will eventually die and there is nothing you can do about that, whether your death comes about because of old age, or on account of war, natural disaster, road accident, etc..

I appeal to no Athority in order to tell you that you are mortal and as ignorant as I am in existential matters, such as the purpose of life ... which is what?

It is not "straw men" to repeat that perennial question, but apparently you KNOW the answers to unsolved questions which have vexed the minds of such great thinkers as Socrates for centuries.

Have a shot at reading the Socratic dialogues and, maybe especially the Euthyphro in which Socrates questions precisely the "appeal to authority" for actions done.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 07:11 | 3077870 beaglebog
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You cite Socrates, Plato and "the great thinkers" ... yet make no "appeal to authority".

 

I will die. I claim no "right to life".   Another straw-man.

 

And now, I can add "ad homs" to your list of offences.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 07:27 | 3077880 Setarcos
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I make NO "appeal authority".

FYI I once thought that Plato was a waste of space, but only after I had worked things out for myself dd I agree with a lot that he wrote.

 

"And now, I can add "ad homs" to your list of offences."

What list of "offences"?  Please list.

 

 

 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 02:19 | 3077706 Setarcos
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Heresy and provocation, but here goes.

The real George Washington, and all other Founding fathers, were essentially robber barons of the London colonies in N America, who objected to King George taking taxes/money they might otherwise have had ... and the Constitution they wrote was just as much in their self-interest as the Magna Carta the robber barons in England extracted from King John.

NEVER, in both cases, was there ever any intention for rights to trickle down to the masses and nothing has changed.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 01:26 | 3077653 Setarcos
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Oh dear George Washington!  Still drinking the Cool Aid that 19 non-pilots caused the free-fall collapses of WTCs 1, 2& 7 ... plus a relatively small hole in a side of the Pentagon.

WAKE up, e.g. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bbc_wtc7_videos.html?q=bbc_wtc7_videos.html

 

Or:  http://www.ae911truth.org/

Of course Big Brother did not keep you safe from 9/11, invading Iraq, invading Afghanistan, Homeland Security and anything else you seem to suppose your gubbermint is supposed to protect you from.

I'll try to spell it out for you:

Why would the likes of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, etc. call on Big Brother to prevent 9/11, or later do a proper investigation?

Hint: they and others of the PNAC ARE components of Big Brother.

I find it hard to believe that you are so naive George.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 02:11 | 3077697 George Washington
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You might be surprised at what I believe. (Oh ... and I voted you up).

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 02:18 | 3077712 Setarcos
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Fair enough and thanks, but how about writing what you really believe?

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:30 | 3077849 bunnyswanson
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"am I the only one who gives a shit about what is going on here?"  (Big Lebowski  - Shut the Fuck up Donnie, Walter).

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 23:46 | 3077491 Money 4 Nothing
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They had a brand new survelience system installed at the school recently, the FBI got on Fox News on Sunday morning about 11:30 and said their not releasing the school video.

 

Moreover..

The mother wasn't even an employee at that school. Liberman wants to form a Commission to investigate this shooting and Building 7 collapse isn't even mentioned in the 9/11 commission report so that should tell you Cover up, not Commission investigation. Warren Comission ring a bell?

Show me the surveliance video (which you have) and I want to see the kid exit his mothers Audi and approach the school with a Bushmaster .223 in his hands. Until then, you have made this a conspiracy because your not bringing fouth the truth about this story. It was a brand new security system recently installed in the school so don't tell me you don't have it, I demand it and the family of those deceased deserve to see it too..

Why was the Bushmaster .223 found in the mothers trunk and the "other" long gun found in the front seat? The shooter was found with 2 hand guns at the murder scene in the school, correct? Those are your words, yet there is spent .223 shells all over the floor in the kill room. There is a video from a news helicoptor at the scene showing a Police officer discovering and clearing the Bushmaster .223 assault rifle in the trunk of the mother Audi, go look for it because that scenario doesn't work.

Untill I see compelling evidence that this case isn't State sponsored terrorism at it' worst, I don't buy the MSM controlled narrative. Yet the shooting will continue untill the American public demand all guns be removed from our citizens.

CIA's #1 rule back in the day, "Do not psy op the American public" so just who are we dealing with here?

This story stinks to the high heavens especially when you listen to the local police radio recording from the morning. "Multiple shooters" is the event. That recording is released online also.

Channel 2 interviewed a teacher describing a man that was in the school, dark black jacket, cammie pants, and just who fit's that description? The man they foiund in the near by woods and he was questioned, cuffed, un cuffed, set in the front seat of the police car than released. 2 men fleed the scene in a maroor / dark red mini van with the back windows shot out and are still at large. Go do your job, look at all the traffic camera video from the area and find them. Bottom line? before I give up my weapons, man card and 2A, they better convince me and my family there really is a boogie man  or I am not going to become a victim of my own governanace by handing over my protection.  

Anyone trading Liberty for temporary security deserves neither and will lose both.

-Ben Franklin.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 05:43 | 3077781 elementary
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My first thought was that it was a false flag event. They needed to slaughter the children for effect. Chicago had just overturned gun ban law, so this needed to be done to put the people back in place. The mall shooter in Oregon was after another victory for gun rights folks. (By the way, the mall shooter was confronted by CCW holder who stared the gunman down until the gunman took his own life)  This stuff is just getting way too predictable, but most cannot/will not make the connection, just what the government depends on. Most people cannot fathom the depths of evil the world's governments will go.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 05:59 | 3077830 bunnyswanson
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Conquer and Destroy

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/facebook-now-suspending-accounts-which-question-mainstream-media-reportingaccount-of-events/

 

Despite the fact that the mainstream media got key facts wrong in early reporting

By Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 18, 2012

Facebook is suspending user accounts that question the official narrative behind the Sandy Hook school massacre, following a warning by Connecticut State Police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance that “misinformation” posted on social media sites could result in prosecution.

fascistbook

You are now blocked from posting content on

Facebook for 3 days.

If you continue to abuse Facebook's features,

your account could be permanently deleted.

 

 

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:51 | 3077861 Money 4 Nothing
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Thanks for that info. They were saying at one point, the locally recorded police communications from their radio frequency that morning that was posted was being considered dis-info also. Go figure?

We as Americans, every race creed and color must band together to fight this power that is being weilded against us and our children, we can argue about our differences later.

 

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 23:20 | 3077420 DarthVaderMentor
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That's because currently it doeswn't work and when it does, the data is so overwhelming it has no meaning.

In addition, it can be thwarted so easily with mis-direction.......

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:14 | 3077840 bunnyswanson
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You've mentioned something I have thought about often...why does it hurt to think about what is unfolding, I asked myself.  Why does my mind collapse in fatigue and defeat when I try to make sense of it all.  Why do people's eyes glaze over when I try to discuss this.  I thought it was "too much information" but now, I believe it is because there is a huge piece of this puzzle missing.  Without the piece, this word puzzle is never going to be completed.

But we know what the missing piece is.  Banks/shareholders/big industry last-man-standing after a business plan reminescent of Jonestown massacre (Drink this.  Yes, okay.  ::hello dirt, good-bye blue skes::), are now more power than teh politicians elected.  Fear, corruption, weak character, whatever afflicts the elected official to turn their back on the majority of the population, is unfolding and that is very unnervng.  Lack of confidence is widespread.  You just cannot be sure if what you are thinking is even accurate because NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS.  Agenda MindPhuck.   Feeling "out of sorts" is the result of not havng all the necessary nformation to sum up the situation. (typo...)

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 23:17 | 3077408 David99
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ZH is only doing good job and reporting correctly. Tyler is a real true person though I have never met him. FED+BOE+ECB+BOJ are the biggest manipulators and JPM +GS +20PD's act on their behalf in this Ponzi Casino. It is all rigged Ponzi Casino. JPM & GS do maximum manipulations from London as no regulators are looking what is going on daily. London is the best place to manipulate Ponzi Casino as no regulators as they are watching porno. Manipulations of highest order without any regulations as every one has been purchased and regulators watching porno. In last 10 trading days, Rio Tinto manipulated by +25% gain and regulators watching porno. JPM doing it. It is just Casino and nothing else. Regulators are watching porno, don't know how Rio Tinto is manipulating daily. On LSE, there is no checks and balances and maximum manipulations daily by Rio Tinto. The market is Casino and the biggest manipulated stock is Rio Tinto and JPM is pulling up daily and no regulations for Rio Tinto in London

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:55 | 3077351 the grateful un...
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and our own military didn't stop one of theirs from murdering 16 people in afghanistan, (and we all know that this kind of killing in america is more despicable, no matter who does it, even if adam lanza was an islamic terrorist, the story would be just as big) but shouldn't all child victims (excpet those killed in drone attacks) are about equal in the eyes of the msm propaganda machine?? rhetorical question ducklings.

well yes they are, sort of, an afghan girl was shot by the taliban for going to school? hmmm that story has gotten a lot of news. but if you are very careful and very radical thinking you can put these two stories, sandy hook and the girl shot by the taliban, on the same metaphoric line.

adam lanza must be a terrorist, (not hard to come to that conclusion in standard metaphoric terms, is it?) and being a terrorist, not much different than the taliban we are fighting in afghanistan, and the children we kill using drone attacks. so we have to kill these children to protect our own. but all classrooms should have armed agents just like all airline flights, and no children can get in the classroom without strip searches. that's whats needed to save them you see. (and create a whole new government spending program)

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 00:29 | 3077589 brettd
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Na. Don't have to spend much. School Employees can go through Deputy certification at the local Sheriff's department....

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 23:02 | 3077348 Pee Wee
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GW, big brother spying is filling the vacuum left by the rapid decline in community.

Theories why include a much more transient population, technology insulation, family and religious decay, among many others.

Good governance requires community, too.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:47 | 3077328 brokesville
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they spy on us cause we let them

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:50 | 3077338 Michaelwiseguy
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Reuters

NSA to Store Data Gathered by DHS from Male Penis Recognition Software

Penis Recognition Software will gather from surveillance cameras, images to be stored, along with photographs and X-rays. This tool will provide valuable information in identifying perpetrators in the not uncommon event that a person is raped, for prosecution of this heinous crime. Victims will more easily be able to recognize and identify the criminal, especially when the perpetrator is wearing a mask or facial covering.

The database already has thousands of male member profiles on record gathered from various sources.

By 2020, the Department of Homeland Security hopes to have stored at the National Security Administration's Bluffdale Utah Data Center, 100% of male member profiles residing in the US, in various stages of arousal ranging from flaccid to full erection.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:39 | 3077300 IamtheREALmario
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Well let's see ... so if the government creates a situation where they kill a bunch of people and blame it on some hapless patsy then kill the patsy, why would they catch themselves ... uh, duh!

I mean really, isn't it more important that the government disarm the people so that they cannot defend themselves, so that the government is free to oppress and steal from them rather than to make sure that the people are kept alive under a free, fair, open and safe society. I mean really, the government is more important than anything, right?!?

What is the importance of the lives of a bunch of children when the government has the opprtunity to make sure it stays in power unchallenged? Moloch and the Obama Antichrist unchained.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 23:18 | 3077405 Savyindallas
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Oklahoma City, 911, Connecticut school shooter,Batman shooter, the shooter of Congresswoman Giffords, Columbine, Virginia Tech, etc. etc. etc.- all or most are likely a product of the global mafia- the shadow government that largely owns or contols the U.S. Government, the media , Wall Street, etc.   They have their agenda-the globalization of the world through the banking system-  in this case -setting the stage for the disarmament of America -they are acting now. They have sized it up and believie they can win  -they are laying the groundwork with some legislation now  -an economic crash or depression, world war, and more false flag operations will pave the way  -in a few years they will have 30,000 drones in the sky -they don't care if their are 20,000 casualties -or more  -the sheeple and the patriots will be the causualties. It has now begun. God help us all. Victory or slavery - or even death  - the battle may have just begun. Romney would have been an expedited war in the middle east-bringing in Russia and China  -we may get that anyway, but an Obama victory means the war on the patriots  -the best of the rest that America has to offer- Sons of Liberty  -may have begun.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:57 | 3077170 Iocosus
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This is a much watch slamdown of Chuck Schumer and the boys regarding gun rights and WHY the Second Ammendment was created.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8-SsjBIt_P8

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:45 | 3077138 Rustysilver
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Tsunam Wave,

I am in Ct. I have seen all the stories on every channel.

Adam Lanza shot out a window and go in. He was not buzzed in.

I am still waiting for an explanation what his mother did at the school. The school's administrator stated that Nancy was not on any payroll list.

Saturday (next day after schooling) I saw 5 helicopters(3 Chinooks and 2 hueys.  They flew on a line from Newton to Windsor locks (BDL airport.)

about 2 pm. Why do you need the helos after the fact.

They are a lot of questions that are not yet answered. No , I am not paranoid or see a conspiracy at every corner.

BTW . Adam went to that school. He know the layout well. He could have turn right and walk in to a room with 25 kids rehearsing a play.

My personal theory is that he had "an issue" with the classrooms that he chose.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 07:00 | 3077865 Hobbleknee
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Maybe he was molested at that school.  Who knows?  Maybe the government did the whole job and threw in his dead body after the fact.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:45 | 3077318 Tsunami Wave
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Supposedly, he wasn't on any anti-depressants or SSRIs or mood stabilizers.  However, this guy clearly had issues.  I have no idea what's going on up there.... it's one of those moments I wish I worked in something politics/law enforcement related and saw personally what was going on.  I live on the Jersey Shore.. I remember after the hurricane how there were a lot of hum-vees, army trucks & tents in a town by us, and some helicopters flying overhead and even a few drones.  I'm not parinoid.. but I've lost nearly all of my trust in the federal government.  Why the fuck can't the truth come out.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 13:12 | 3079126 monad
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If he followed WilliamBanzai7 maybe he wouldn't have snapped. Works for me...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:39 | 3077124 Fix It Again Timmy
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The only concern a government has towards its citizens is that they pay their taxes - that's it, that's all of it... As Gerald Celente says, "Washington is Hollywood for ugly people."  What do you expect from Hollywood?  Well, you're getting the same thing from Washington...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:37 | 3077118 tony bonn
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of course the drones won't protect us from anything....the mass murders over the past 40 years are typically cia mk-ultra operations used to terrorize the nation into martial law.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:35 | 3077111 Joebloinvestor
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Sounds like a replay of "The Anderson Tapes".

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:25 | 3077088 Disenchanted
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The Invisible Government, Revealed

The intelligence community is a state within a state.

 

Don’t misunderstand me: Americans now possess (or more accurately are possessed by) a vast “intelligence” bureaucracy deeply in the shadows, whose activities are a mass of known unknowns and unknown unknowns to those of us on the outside. It is beyond enormous. There is no way to assess its actual usefulness, or whether it is even faintly “intelligent” (though a case could certainly be made that the U.S. would be far better off with a non-paramilitarized intelligence service or two, rather than scads of them, that eschewed paranoia and relied largely on open sources). But none of that matters. It now represents an irreversible way of life, one that is increasingly visible and celebrated in this country. It is also part of the seemingly endless growth of the imperial power of the White House and, in ways that Wise and Ross would in 1964 have found inconceivable, beyond all accountability or control when it comes to the American people.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 21:34 | 3077112 George Washington
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It's a must-read article ...

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 22:49 | 3077332 DaveyJones
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Engelhardt does great work.

Wed, 12/19/2012 - 06:43 | 3077857 Disenchanted
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One thing that Englehardt article shows is that the "Big Brother Spying" has been more extensive and around a lot longer than some seem to think.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 20:54 | 3076998 q99x2
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They're not spying to protect us. They are doing it to kill us and blackmail the politicians. Why would they want to help their enemy.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 20:41 | 3076959 Yankee.go.home
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Even if you have long forgotten, the people who you bullied in school remember and they are gunning for you.

Tue, 12/18/2012 - 20:26 | 3076909 Winston Churchill
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GW

So why did Usama deny involvement in 9/11 uptil his death in Dec.2001 ?

Why did Usama declare 9/11 as a sin against Allah ?

Intel ops always  have multiple layers of confusion and deniability.

Just be thankful that most Govt's are generally  incompetent at best.

Especially Uncle Sam.

 

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