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“On Dec. 13, 2011, Marine Lance Cpl. Christian Brown was leading his squad on a foot patrol in Afghanistan’s Helmand province when he stepped on an explosive device that blew off both his legs, one above the knee, the other below his hip,” the Washington Post reported on December 13, 2012.  “He also lost part of his right index finger.”

“Last Sunday, almost exactly a year since those grievous injuries forced him to learn to walk on two successive pairs of prosthetic legs, Brown was ‘humiliated’ to the point of tears on a Delta flight from Atlanta to Washington after being clumsily wheeled to the back row of the plane, according to a complaint sent to the airline by an outraged fellow passenger.”

What is outrageous is that when several passengers on the Delta flight offered to give Brown their seats in first class, the Delta crew refused.  The Washington Post reports that “Flight attendants insisted no one could move through the cabin because the doors were being closed for takeoff.”

Now you are probably wondering why a financial analyst and banker is taking an interest in wounded veterans.  The answer is that my employer, Carrington Holdings, participates in a voluntary network of private companies and individuals known as the Veterans Airlift Command (VAC) that donate our Flight Crew and aircraft to move wounded veterans around the country.  The VAC organized and flew over 1500 trips last year and has a growing list of over 1800 planes and pilots that are standing by to help out.

The work of the VAC and its volunteers makes a big difference.  A couple of days before Christmas, our flight department at Carrington had the honor of flying Taylor and Danielle Morris home from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center to their home in Iowa.  Like Chris Brown, Taylor was grievously wounded in battle and required months of rehabilitation before being discharged from military service.  You can see their story on YouTube.   

Carrington tries to fly 15-20 missions a year and like all the participants in the VAC, supplies flight crew, aircraft, fuel, maintenance and insurance all free of cost to the Veteran and family.  We believe that it is our fundamental obligation to take care of those that have sacrificed so much while protecting our freedom.

Unfortunately while the Department of Defense generally does a good job of rehabilitation of wounded veterans, the last detail – namely getting these heroes home safely and with dignity – somehow is missed.  We were fortunate to be able to help this brave young man and his beautiful wife travel those last miles home in comfort and dignity that they deserve.  Like all veterans, they thank us profusely.  Our answer is simple: “No, thank you.”   

The VAC tries to serve as many veterans as possible, but the sheer number of young men and women who return from Afghanistan, Iraq and other conflicts missing arms and legs among other severe injuries is still too great for this volunteer effort.  Hundreds of wounded veterans are still compelled to fly on commercial airlines and endure the same humiliation and disrespect that Chris Brown suffered at the hands of Delta Airlines. 

In fact, when the VAC cannot fulfill a mission directly with a volunteer aircraft and crew, they buy and donate airline tickets to the Veteran and his or her family.  You guessed it, even on Delta Airlines in the past – not anymore.

The goal overall though, is to make certain that when commercial airlines have travelers like Chris Brown or the other thousands of severely wounded Veterans, they make generous accommodations available to treat these heroes with the respect and dignity that they deserve.  Or they can refer the veterans to organizations like the VAC for more customized transportation.  Working together, the commercial airlines and private organizations like the VAC can get the job done; take care of America’s Heroes.

Unfortunately when my colleagues at Carrington and many of the other organizations that participate in the VAC contacted Delta Airlines to complain about the treatment of Chris Brown and to ask for a change in policy, they were rebuffed.  They sent us a form letter. But this is a case where we are not going to take no for an answer.

The only reason that the commercial airlines aren't interested in referring and taking care of the veterans is in pursuit of the Almighty Dollar.  Then in further pursuit of the fictitious “On Time Departure,” they treat these brave young soldiers like excess cargo.  Companies like mine won’t stand for that.

Those of us who travel as part of our jobs rightly hate commercial airlines as a business model, but my colleagues and I vehemently resent their treatment of this special group of passengers.  We need your help to get this bad situation fixed.  And until Delta Airlines changes its policies, the 2,500 employees of our company will no longer fly on Delta.

When our CEO, Bruce Rose put the policy out to all of our Associates, he was met with overwhelming support and expressions of pride from all corners of the country where we work.  Our Company “get’s it”.

Will you join us in expressing your outrage?   

First, we want you to contact Delta Airlines CEO Richard H. Anderson and his colleagues. You can click here to get the contact information for Delta (NYSE:DAL).  But frankly all of the major airlines need to hear the same message. 

If you share our sense of outrage at the way wounded veterans are treated by Delta Airlines and other commercial carriers, then please get involved. Something as simple as forwarding this post to you friends and colleagues is the first step.   And you can tell them, as we have, that you will not fly on Delta until they change their policy towards wounded veterans.

Second and perhaps more important, we need to contact members of Congress to demand that they pressure the White House, the Transportation Safety Administration and related federal agencies to make adjustments in law and regulation to change the way that Veterans are treated when they travel on commercial airlines.  The VAC web site has a number of horror stories about how wounded vets are humiliated by commercial airlines and the TSA.  Perhaps it has been lost on the TSA that these are the same people that are fighting on the front lines for what the TSA is pretending to protect.  This situation is outrageous and completely unnecessary, but it will be rectified when we get enough voices to demand change.

The good news is that thanks to the VAC and other organizations, a growing number of private companies and individuals are making their time and resources available to help address the needs of thousands of wounded soldiers coming home from war.  We don’t yet have enough volunteers and planes to get the job done privately, but the cases where we can take these brave men and women home in comfort and dignity make the effort worthwhile. 

Just look at the photo below of Taylor and Danielle Morris  on their way home with our flight crew flying the VAC organized mission last week.  This is about honoring our veterans and doing the right thing.  Carrington and the VAC can’t do it alone – please help us to take care of the true American Heroes that have sacrificed so much protecting our freedom by making their lives just a little bit easier.

Taylor and Danielle Morris

Merry Christmas

Christopher Whalen

www.rcwhalen.com

Links

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/files/2012/12/40

http://www.abc24.com/news/local/story/Munford-Marine-Home-After-In-Fligh...

 


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Tue, 12/25/2012 - 10:33 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Boycott Delta?

Boycott the Banksters!

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 09:44 | Link to Comment gigeze787
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http://www.snowballexpress.org/

"Serving children of fallen military heroes"

"Presented by AMERICAN AIRLINES - official airline of Snowball Express"

About Snowball Express

Our Beginning:

"Snowball Express started in early 2006 with a simple idea: Provide hope and new memories to the children of military fallen heroes who have died while on active duty since 9/11.

America should honor and pay tribute to the children of those military fallen heroes who have died while honorably serving since 9/11.

In December of 2006, nearly 900 family members from all across America and the world gathered in Southern California for an unforgettable holiday gathering. Kids and widows discovered they weren't alone. And they found they weren't forgotten.

It was a totally volunteer effort which came together in just a few months to create the largest all-expense-paid gathering for the families of our fallen warriors since 9/11."

 

 

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 03:00 | Link to Comment Fix It Again Timmy
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I was a combat medic with the 1st Infantry in Vietnam and I'm with Bob - "I have a clue.  You were't defending me from shit in Viet Nam..." Right on Bob, Right on - we killed 2-3 million Vietnamese for no good reason... signed, Doc from Delta Company - 1/26 Infantry Brigade - 1st Infantry Division.

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 05:27 | Link to Comment TPTB_r_TBTF
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Well of course you did it for a "good reason".  The military industrial complex didnT want to give up the precious rubber resource from Nam.  You served the Empire well.  We are in your debt for defending the plantations.

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 01:33 | Link to Comment subscriptionblocker
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http://tinyurl.com/bnh9kzy

 

All of us had a part in it, and this fraud may be as damaging as the banksters. It's why morons spend our kids and treasure - no skin in the game, and they get a cut.

 

Ask Cheney how that works.....

 

He can afford as many hearts as he needs. Probably can "make things happen" for spares. Those Christian Browns of this world lack any significance.


Tue, 12/25/2012 - 01:09 | Link to Comment TheObsoleteMan
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The USA has been on constant war footing since 1940, when Lend-Lease began. Unlike previous wars, after WW2 the war machine was not scaled down. With the defeat of the Axis powers, new enemies had to be found, and it wasn't hard at all to do. After the collapse of the USSR {although not Communism}, a new enemy was needed to feed the machine. The countries that were left were "small potatoes", what they really needed was an IDEA AS AN ENEMY. That idea became terrorism. Note, they have never said this was a war against radical Islam, no, that would be too easy and simple. Terrorism can wear many hats. It can never be truly defeated, just managed. They have created the perfect enemy this time. It guarantees perpetual war, and as long as the economy is in the toilet, and unemployment remains high, there will always be plenty of young men to send into the meat grinder. As a veteran, I feel terrible that our young people are being manged for nothing other that to line the pockets of a few. Hopefully, more will become aware of the true intent of our war mongering establishment politicians, and do something else other than enlist. Talk to young people you know about "the perpetual war", and why they should have no part of it. Tell them to say to the recruiter who might pass their way: "Send Chelsea Clinton and the Bush daughters over to Afghanistan, put them on garrison duty". After all, it was their families who set this whole thing up in the first place {with a little help from their Israeli buddies}. What do you suppose the chances of that are?

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:47 | Link to Comment walcott
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to honor human civilization in general boycott all airlines.

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Or, Transvestites Searching Asses, meet Mr Baseball Bat!

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:31 | Link to Comment mogul rider
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I may hate gold pumpers but like fuck am I gonna stand back and let you basement dwelling fucktards flame a vet.

Becuase you little fucktards tell your parents to fuck off as you watch MMA you thinking you are tough you think you can come on here and do this shit.

Not a chance - but first

I and my family and friends will absolutely boycott Delta - Chris.

It is the least I can do until they change their behaviour.

Consider that done and happy holidays to you and yours

 

Now back you little fucktards.

When the zombies come racing down the street in the near future in whatever form they do and you realize that it's either you are your family I know what you will choose becuase you are pussies..

So let me state clearly, come on out and tell us where you live you little fucks and we'll show you what dissing looks like. In fact, anonymous out of courtesy maybe you could

When I'm done with you - your fag boyfriends won't even recognize your asshole becaase my boot will be in it so deep you be puking my shoelaces

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Show your post to your mommy.

Make her proud.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:59 | Link to Comment hankwil74
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Looks like somebody got coal in their stocking and isn't too happy about it.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:17 | Link to Comment dolph9
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I've treated alot of patients in the VA system.  Almost to the tee, they're good guys, and yes I do honor their service to what was once a great and functional country.

But Chris Whalen and ilk don't get it.  They never will until this sucker goes down.

This is what we want...to stop being TOLD WHAT THE FUCK TO DO.  Leave us alone, and we'll leave you alone, and you know, maybe we might just help you in your time of need.

But I don't need any more reminders on who to honor or who not to honor.  Just let people live their lives and associate and honor who they want to.

I am sick and tired of this idea that I have to be grateful to other serfs.  We are all serfs, let's just admit it and move on.

Where's the outrage?  It's too late for that.  This sucker is going down.  There's no fix, no solution, nothing that will turn it around.

All my life I've been lied to and told to be "outraged" at some phantasm or another.  So, guess what?  I'm not outraged anymore.  At anything.  Nothing astonishes me, nothing outrages me.  I am completely impervious.  I have absorbed so much bullshit, that no further amount of bullshit can even make me blink.

So if you people want to get outraged at that latest incident in Amerika that needs your outrage, be my guest.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:43 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Good guys don't kill people because they are told to.

Good guys kill people in self-defense.

If I told you to kill someone and you did, would that make you a good guy?

 

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:20 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Well the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs and other brass are the real scum.  They let the islamic usurper kill Seal Team 6.  Traitorous cowards doing the bidding for the NWO and our Dear Mullah who is loved by All of TV and All of Hollywood.

If you watch their sh8t then you enable your serfdom. .

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:26 | Link to Comment Salon
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Lol

This is fight club, bitchez

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:50 | Link to Comment Element
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Exactly, the attitude on some of these 'vet' guys is incredible. Not all, not even most, just a few stinkers, but I don’t think those few even realize they sound like Homer Simpson's dad;

"...I FOUGHT for your sorry ass!!!  ME!!  I DID IT!!!  FUCK YOU!! I SAVED YOUR UNGREATFUL … YOU CUNTS!!!  You should ALL pay more tax so we band of brothers can have more of the shit that YOU worked for!!! ... you educated fucking pieces of shit have got NO RIGHT TO EVEN COMMENT about that!!!"

And so on. It's like some sort of half-baked delusional cult that's indifferent to the passing of the years and the exposure of the sordid facts surrounding the events, they want us to believe they saved us from. So they quote poetry and banal codswallop about their 'band of brothers', and how it all makes sense now. Well maybe in dreams and MSM-infused myths and fables it makes some sort of sense to you. But from where I'm looking it's just another lobby on the parasitism bandwagon, with delusions of grandeur of mysterious non-existent superheroes who killed people, based on en-echelon false-pretense and lies.

Well, most vets aren't like that, but if you are, get a clue, we've all done things for people and taken large risks that go well above and beyond reasonable, or sacrificed everything for others. It's just most people who do that don't keep crapping on about it or expecting a tax subsidy for 50 years or so. Who made you fucking 'sacred-cows'? Where'd you get this quaint idea no one has any right to comment, the bottom of the bargain-bin, at a political-correctness superstore maybe?

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 00:10 | Link to Comment koncaswatch
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Thr "right" comment was made from the perspective of one that hears in the thread commentary that vets can't see the meme constantly presented by the war media that any vet is a hero; most of us now it's bs and resent it, it is almost inate. Sit down and talk to a vet who has been out of the MIC long enough to reflect on the experience and you'll hear a story of a feeling of being used.

My apology, you have a right to comment, from the perpective of a taxpayer commenting on the wasteful resources exracted from the society at the point of a gun and supplied in overabundance to the MIC. The media made vets sacred cows, when it suits them; and when it suits them vets are vermin, I've lived long enough in the experience to now be able to rightly call bullshit on just about all the commentary. 

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 00:18 | Link to Comment Element
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Well, fair enough, and no offense is intended mate, you know how it is, so do I.

Cheers

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment AllWorkedUp
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Wow. Christmas Eve really brought out the cunts - Salon, Element, Kuntorsky, Anusocracy. I'm sure I missed someone. 

 You're like the fucktards that spit on Vietnam vets in the 60's that are now ruining/running the country, devoid of decency, selfish empty headed punks that have never sacrificed a thing for anyone or anything but yourselves. I'm sure mommy and daddy gave you a nice education and a cozy life of priviledge so you didn't have to.

 The last thing we should be doing is fighting these wars for the shitheads running the show but we are and these young, impressionable kids are there and they've given limbs and lives.

 Show some decency you pieces of shit.

 

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Go back to the animal world where you belong.

Join some rhesus macaques and make monkey war with your own kind.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:34 | Link to Comment Poofter Priest
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Dude....relax.

There are networks out there of trolls. Their game is to incite someone to get pissed off. They then copy the rant against them and post it on their troll sites.

They get troll points and are let into the club.

Really...it does exist. Just ignore them. It is the worst thing you can to them.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Salon
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The majority signed up for economic reasons which makes them mercenaries.

The others I pity. I too would have been that stupid at that age.

But heroes? No.

Not by my definition.

Certainly deserving of no higher status than the rest of us.

I was in the National Guard for 9 years. But I was a dupe, too. Fortunately I figured it out

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:24 | Link to Comment willwork4food
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"The last thing we should be doing is fighting these wars for the shitheads running the show but.."

Touche.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:43 | Link to Comment Salon
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We can proly all agree on that

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 21:34 | Link to Comment subscriptionblocker
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Perhaps all this concern is too late? Or at least it would be taken more seriously if parties had not been "absent" at war's beginning?

 

A uniform draft without "special people" would do it. Perhaps a real war tax for those remaining? Children of Congressmen and Senators get extra points awarded - for heavier weighting at selection.

 

Bet we'd get involved in fewer wars....

 

Much more "expensive" than providing airline seats. The injured wouldn't feel like such chumps either.

 

Your "issue". Their "rest of life". These vets aren't stupid. They know what's ahead.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 21:22 | Link to Comment hairball48
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As a Viet Nam Veteran, let me just say this to you "anti Veteran" types:

Fuck you.

I too hope you die a long, drawn out, painful death from the worst scourge on the planet...cause you have no fucking clue.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 21:32 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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I have a clue.  You were't defending me from shit in Viet Nam, and I'm not being defended from shit in Afghanistan and elsewher now.  You were working for the man, brother, and guys like you sadly still are. 

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 10:40 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Hey, if you want to slam policy, fine.

We had a Draft then, not a lot of choice, IMO.

Plenty of us want to serve our country. It is not our fault we are being lied to.

Now, with the internets, we can see the game, but it is not wrong to defend your Constitution, which is what I swore an Oath to.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 21:43 | Link to Comment hairball48
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Bob, you're a classic example of the "clueless" with that inane statement. You'll  be crying like a lil baby when the shit hits the fan...wanting someone to come "defend" your dumb, selfish ass. And I can't fucking wait until that day dawns :)

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 02:25 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Defend us from whom? The evil is in our borders and govt. Maybe the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs plus the rest of the military will grow a pair.  Sending kids to Afghanistan for no mission except for Dear Mullah's drug dealing pals and fellow islamists.

Save me the Vietnam Vet sh*t. I know one going broke who cannot find a job in the islamic's new amerika as the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs due the bidding for the golfing usurper.   This poor old guy cannot find work.  

The brass know what the problem is.  It "ain't" the Russians or Syria.  Maybe if the dumb generals were not chasing muz*ie spy whores at Tampa country clubs outside McDill.  Dumb as dirt 3 stars getting nailed in a blackmail scheme with some islamo skank with big hoots and fat arse.  Poor dumb kids in the military being used and killed. 

Keep watching TV and Hollywood's crap because your viewership supports this nightmare.  Fox Al Waleed is no better.  Dumb asses watching Saving Private Ryan made by O'Mullah's pal Spielberg. Fools.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:45 | Link to Comment Salon
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Your liver will have worn out long before you ever see that day.

And some blowhard loser on a PTSD claim like urself will be among the first to be eliminated from the game if TS hits TF

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 21:11 | Link to Comment singlemalt
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As a flier with status on Delta, I have several times offered to give up my first class seat to elderly folks who otherwise would have had to haul themselves alll the way to the back of the plane.  This has not been an issue, and seats have been traded no problem.

As mush as this story annoys me, until this is actually *balanced* (I know, wierd, huh), with the response from Delta, this is just trolling.  Please let me know when this web site decides to offer both viewpoints on a story before posting.

P.S. I am neither an investor nor proponent of Delta, they just happen to be my hub, and thus I have little choice.

 

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Salon
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Dude this is fight club.

Pick a side!

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:13 | Link to Comment koncaswatch
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@Salon: "Pick a side"

I have. Vets came to being vets under various circumstances, all arranged very carefully by 230 years of banksters. The US veterans will all have to face the fact that their service was not in service of mankind, or americans or anybody but the bankers. Most of us on this site realize this to be true. The media's overuse of "hero" is a diservice to vets. Most vets will tell you that in battle they are not fighting for any government or idiology; they're fighting for their comrades in arms and for survival. Many of us hate the thought that our risk of life was taken for little more than the interests of the United Fruit Company, Exxon or any other bullshit reason. Modern US soldiers are mercenaries, but eighteen year olds enticed by the promise of college money as a path out of poverty find it hard to resist. Once you become a vet, for any reason, you soon realize that non-veterans have no real connection to your experience, and quickly tire of their commentary about your experience. That is my side of the story and I'm sticking to it.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 20:53 | Link to Comment koncaswatch
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For all of you corageous commentors who speak so righteuosly of your "resistance" to war:

"This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day." 
Shakespeare

 

Only we who have seen battle have any right to comment on the treatment of veterans, the righteousness of their battle or circumstances of their conscription; the rest of you can shut the fuck up.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:34 | Link to Comment koncaswatch
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I can see by the red arrows that the above is beleived to be spoken by a "war mongering vet"... that would be incorrect; see: koncaswatch http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-11-12/veterans-day-honor-soldier-scorn-chickenhawk#comment-2974172 

Oh, by the way I'm still of the opinion that commentary by non-vets about vets is useless drivel. 

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:49 | Link to Comment Salon
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The classic narcissistic entitlement of the vet.

We are special. You non vets are not allowed to judge us or comment on us unless it is gushingly positive.

Nobody is qualified to understand us but us.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 23:28 | Link to Comment koncaswatch
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Entitled to what; the promises of the banksters? I personally don't get any entitlements,don't want any and want the US and all the manipulative elements of that regime to leave me alone. Thank you very much.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 20:25 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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I've gone one better, I'm boycotting ALL airlines until such time as the TSA is abolished.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 17:59 | Link to Comment Salon
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I boycott the airlines for other reasons, not at the behest of self important veterans expecting special treatment.

You do not fight for me. I owe you nothing.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 18:56 | Link to Comment 3.7.77
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absolutely, It's not a problem until a vet is involved 

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Kastorsky
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>>Now you are probably wondering why a financial analyst and banker is taking an interest in wounded veterans. 

Not particularly.

We know - they all are a part of the same fascist system.

So why should we honor your mass murdering, drone piloting, gitmo sadistic, fascist veterans?!

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 18:22 | Link to Comment Element
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But 'veterans' love to keep reminding everyone about the patriotic (powerfully deluded and ignorant) choice (mistake) they made to become a hired-killer (hero), for a couple of years of what was the most unfortunate time for them, and many other people, so they can demand eternal unflagging gratis and special-treatment and honour.

If you live 80 years, do you really expect the rest of us to accept that you should be defined by a mere 3 or 4 years of 'service'? You got paid, didn't you? You knew there were fatalities and disfigurements and permanent mental trauma involved in that line of work, right?

You did? ... that's great!

Well then, let's move-on from all this grandstanding, "I'm a 'vet' so treat me different", self-pity and bullcrap. It gets old, really fast. If you lived through it all then there's still the 77 years or so where you ain't a hired killer no more. So try to do something more sane, intelligent and constructive with that, would you, and we'll accept and set-aside these past errors, made in honest ignorance and due constant brain-fucking and ideological mind-poisoning by devious politicians and rich criminal scum still playing "Battle-ships" … with real battle ships.

And also; a sincere thanks, because in truth, you probably actually meant-well, at first, so there's hope for you to redeem yourself still. Move on and enjoy life, stop re-processing the error, as a 'vet'.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 18:34 | Link to Comment Kastorsky
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and on the different note - the banker - the shit of the earth - tells people who to honor. 

Fuch you whalen, get a job.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 22:35 | Link to Comment Element
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I don't feel antagonistic toward Whalen. I can see some zh-ers do though. I've been reading Institutional Risk Analytics for years, and it's been very interesting to see what Whalen & Co have been uncovering. It's because they know where the bodies are buried. Whalen openly admitted he was one of the guys selling junk MBS as AAA bundles to greater-fools in 'investment' banks all around the world, especially in Europe, and that he knew what he was doing. But he seems to have belatedly grown a conscience about that since and tried to make amends for it, because it has undoubtedly left a trail of lives-in-ruins that's still playing out. Quite possibly similar might apply to Tyler, but how would we even know?

Much too easy to make grand mistakes, not so easy to ever set them right. I don't excuse that, and I'm sure CW doesn't. But he's been working in the other direction for years, and has undoubtedly helped a lot of people. If there was no forgiveness we would all be in serious trouble. And if people who were once doing wrongs didn't wake-up and stop, and also start to get smart about the implications for everyone if it continued, then the entire foul international financial-crook + death-squads system, would have fully metastasized in our world, and we all dropped-dead from its villainy.

Reform obviously isn't going to repair a thing, it's much too late for that. But it might ease the damage of what happens next until the system does drop-dead of eating its own poisons and a global reset occurs. But I've no more intention of contributing to the destructiveness, so it makes me laugh when the latest troll comes by to say we repeatedly, "... miss market opportunities ...", blah-blah.

Uh-huh, but not that they'd even know, though it kind of misses the point a little.

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 17:11 | Link to Comment Banjo
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The irony is that blowing up these guys is a requirement of a system that grabs 25% of the worlds resources for 5% of the population. (Think Rome and other empires.)

In a free market system that sort of Arbitrage would not happen. Type in Economic Democracy it's free and a read that will make great sense.

Essentially the whole freedom terrorist democracy story is a hoax it's about control and keeping resources both real and fiat flowing from the periphery to the centre.

It does make me angry to see such young men disabled for life what a stupid waste and the kleptocrats could not care less. What was it that Kissinger said that soilders are "dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy"

We of course are known as "useless eaters"

I think we will be taken out enmasse bird flu or some major war. Elites have no need for the average man all your resources belong to us is their motto. Look at the difference in bailout for perpetrators of financial disaster vs missing a payment on a credit card or home loan.

Good luck folks WE ALL ARE GOING TO NEED IT.

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 01:15 | Link to Comment TheObsoleteMan
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If it makes you feel any better; What is coming, is not expected or created by the NWO elites. They will be just as defenseless as the rest of us.

Tue, 12/25/2012 - 02:59 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I hope you are correct my friend. I am sure many of the NWO elites have mega bug homes with loads of protection and food.    A certain family has been doing these wars since before the civil war and probably the war of 1812.  They always profit from them.   Unless they.........greased.....

Mon, 12/24/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment TPTB_r_TBTF
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A hero bursts into tears because he has to sit in the back of the plane?

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