Government Dependents Outnumber Those With Private Sector Jobs In 11 U.S. States

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Government Dependents Outnumber Those With Private Sector Jobs In 11 U.S. States

Courtesy of Michael of Economic Collapse  

The Number Of People On Welfare Exceeds The Number Of People With Jobs In 11 StatesAmerica is rapidly becoming a nation of takers.  An increasing number of Americans expect the government to take care of them from the cradle to the grave, and they expect the government to dig into the pockets of others in order to pay for it all. 

This philosophy can be very seductive, but what happens when the number of takers eventually outnumbers the number of producers?  In 11 different U.S. states, the number of government dependents exceeds the number of private sector workers. 

This list of states includes some of the biggest states in the country: California, New York, Illinois, Ohio, Maine, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Hawaii.  It is interesting to note that seven of those states were won by Barack Obama on election night.  In California, there are 139 "takers" for every 100 private sector workers.  That is crazy!  The American people have become absolutely addicted to government money, and it gets worse with each passing year.  If you can believe it, entitlements accounted for 62 percent of all federal spending in fiscal year 2012.  It would be one thing if we could afford all of this spending, but unfortunately we simply cannot.  We are drowning in debt, and we are stealing more than a hundred million more dollars from future generations with each passing hour. No bank robber in history can match that kind of theft.

Yes, we will always need a safety net. There are many people out there that simply cannot take care of themselves. We certainly don't want to see anyone sleeping in the streets or starving to death.

But if the number of people jumping on to the safety net continues to grow at the current pace, the net will break and it will not be available for any of us.

For example, the number of Americans on food stamps grew from about 17 million in 2000 to more than 47 million today. It nearly tripled in just 12 years.

What will happen if it nearly triples again over the next 12 years?

The federal government even has a website ( that guides people through the process of figuring out what welfare programs they can take advantage of.

Overall, the federal government runs nearly 80 different "means-tested welfare programs" and more than 100 million Americans are already enrolled in at least one of those programs.

Yes, I realize that figure is very hard to believe. I had a hard time believing it when I first came across it.

And it is even more shocking when you realize that the figure of 100 million Americans does not even include those who only receive Social Security or Medicare.

Today, there are 56.76 million Americans on Social Security.

To support all of those Americans on Social Security, there are only about 94.75 million full-time private sector workers.

So there are just 1.67 full-time private sector workers to support each American that is on Social Security.

Medicare is also growing like crazy.  As I wrote about the other day, the number of Americans on Medicare is expected to grow from 50.7 million in 2012 to 73.2 million in 2025.

How much farther can we push things before the entire system collapses?

In order to support this exploding entitlement system, we need a lot more Americans to be working good paying jobs.

Unfortunately, millions of good paying jobs continue to be shipped overseas and they aren't coming back.

We are even losing good jobs to our own prisoners.  The United States has the largest prison population in the world by far, and the exploitation of that low wage labor pool has become a boom industry in America. Even Microsoft and Boeing are using prison labor now.  Just check out this video.

Meanwhile, there are millions upon millions of law-abiding Americans that cannot find jobs and that cannot take care of their families.

So poverty and dependence on the government are absolutely exploding.  We have a system that is so messed up that it is hard to even put it into words.  The middle class is being viciously shredded, and most Americans just continue to applaud the politicians from both parties that are doing this to us.

Our economy is being gutted at the same time that the welfare state is experiencing unprecedented growth.  Instead of giving us real answers, our "leaders" just continue to borrow, spend and print more money. We are about to hit the debt limit again, and the Obama administration is saying that we should just do away with the debt limit permanently.

Most of our politicians don't seem to understand that they are systematically destroying our economy and the bright futures that our children and our grandchildren were supposed to have.

But there are some politicians out there that get it. Unfortunately, many of them live in other countries.  For example, Canadian MP Pierre Poilievre seems to have a firm grasp on what debt is doing to the United States. The following are some excerpts from one of his speeches...

"By 2020, the US Government will be spending more annually on debt interest than the total combined military budgets of China, Britain, France, Russia, Japan, Germany, Saudi Arabia, India, Italy, South Korea, Brazil, Canada, Australia, Spain, Turkey, and Israel."


"Through government spending the indulgence of one is the burden of another; through government borrowing, the excess of one generation becomes the yoke of the next; through international bailouts, one nation's extravagance becomes another nation's debt."


"Everyone takes, nobody makes, work doesn't pay, indulgence doesn't cost, money is free, and money is worthless."

You can see his entire speech right here.

And if we continue down this path it is most definitely true that our money will eventually become worthless at some point.  Just today I was down at the grocery store, and a can of chili that I was able to get on sale for 75 cents a couple of years ago now has a "sale price" of $1.69.  If the Federal Reserve keeps recklessly printing dollars, eventually we will be fortunate to get a can of chili for 10 bucks. Things cost too much already, and the Fed seems absolutely determined to cut the legs out from under the U.S. dollar.

Unfortunately, printing money is the only way that we are going to be able to service the gigantic amounts of debt that we are accumulating.

According to Chris Cox and Bill Archer, two men who served on Bill Clinton's Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform, there is no way in the world that we could raise taxes high enough to pay for all of the obligations that we are currently taking on.  They say that even if we taxed all corporations and all individuals at a 100% tax rate on all income over $66,193,  "it wouldn't be nearly enough to fund the over $8 trillion per year in the growth of U.S. liabilities."

Are you starting to get an idea of how much trouble we are in?

We don't have enough money to pay for all of this.

We are broke.

Our current economy is a debt-induced illusion, and we will soon be waking up to a tremendous amount of pain.

Are you ready?

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Bob's picture

67% of government spending last year was, per the author, "entitlements."  I'm wondering what portion of that amount was social security and medicare, which would be the only spending that was actually prepaid specifically by the recipients.  Everybody else who received government payments may have been parasites--most notably the banks and MIC--but those people. by definition, were not. 

Prepaid, dumb fuck.

fxrxexexdxoxmx's picture

Once they have got the people arguing over who has the "right" to this benefit or the other, they have won.

They are not some coordinated conspiracy group either. They are you and me.

How can I begrudge another for fully maximizing their compenstation when it is done by all legal means or by non-legal means yet there is no prosecution?

We have SS beneficiaries who believe they have a right because they paid into it. Big business has paid into the system to purchase regulatory control so how is their contribution not equal?

Right and wrong no longer means what we think they do when the prize is money.

rsnoble's picture

I still think the blame should be pointed squarley at DC. Not the lazies.  Who is it that keeps passing out $ so they can keep a job?  Who was it that kept doing this for decades and now has everyone conditioned into not knowing any better?  Once again the gov't is proven to be a bunch of fucking idiots with only one purpose in mind: get elected, fill money bags as many times as possible and fuck the nation.

foxmuldar's picture

If it wasn't for all the added govenment jobs Obama and his regime created in his first four years, our true unemployment would be twice what it is. And to think this SOB used the holidays when nobody was paying attention to give these same government leaches a pay raise. Does anyone really think Obama gives a fuxx about the deficit? 

Snakeeyes's picture

Sure am glad that Ft. Knox only holds enough gold to pay off 1/4 of China's holdings of Treasuries!!!! NOT!!!!!!!


DaveLight's picture

I agree that the government pay increase doesn't fit well with the current financial dilemma, but, what jobs did Obama create in his first 4 years?

How many of the "lazies" lost jobs, houses, etc, and just can't find work thanks to the brilliance of the "corporate financiers" who trashed the economy?

As long as governmemnt and corporatists are starving the middle-class spenders (consumers), real job creation, with real pay is going to keep running negative and the infamous "job creators" will continue to be a complete joke to anyone who is willing to pay attention and learn about what is happening to our country.

ShrNfr's picture

The statistic is somewhat misleading. I get to be stuck in Medicare soon when I turn 65 no matter what. I am hardly a "Government dependent" in the way most folks would think of it. Rather, the government is dependent on folks like me to cough up a quarter million bucks in cash (you read that right) for tax year 2012. I put in 10-12 hour days at what I do to earn that money. Having said that, there are people who are paracites on our society. We should pull the ticks off and crush them before the productive people get a bad case of the desease they carry.

Landrew's picture

This guy is a FUCKING MORON! Security recipients are not takers! Security is and was paid for! I have been paying since 16 yrs old! A trust fund is a TRUST fund! S.S. has 2.5 TRILLION in surplus revenue! This guy is crap for brains!

robobbob's picture

Everyone would like a return of their investment. but you do realize that money you paid in wasn't put in a special allocated shoebox with your name on it? It went to bridges to nowhere, Pelosi's booze jet, the Mk VI destructo-widget, and maybe a couple bucks made it to granny. It is gone, gone gone, and all thats left are a bunch of IOUs.

When you find what you really invested in was a ponzi scheme, and you work to help line up new investors in order to get your money back, you stop being an innocent victim, and start becoming one of the perpetrators.

TradingChief's picture

Sorry Landrew not true.

When you pay into any Social Program you are not paying for your benefits. You are paying for the present claimants benefits.

The people that pay into Social Programs when you are drawing your money are the ones that are paying for your benefits.

This is why Social Programs will have to be cut, not enough stupid people to pay for all us Baby boomers.

CH1's picture

Sorry, but you're wrong.

Yes, they took your money and you deserve it back - no argument there.

The problem is, they spent your money. In other words, they ripped you off. Immediately. The money they now owe you will have to be taken from younger folks.

You didn't do anything wrong, but the money you get will not come out of the back room, where they stacked up your payments - it will be TAKEN from the pockets of the young guys.

Taking is taking.

Salon's picture

If he were only allowed to take out what he put in compounded by a Long Bond rate of return I would not begrudge him taking money ftom my pocket.

But this retard thinks he deserves getting three and four times what he put in, and he dares to call it fair?

ShrNfr's picture

Now try and find the money that you trusted them with.

Salon's picture

That's what is so funny.

He thinks there is a trust fund with money.

That trust fund has an "IOU two trillion dollars"

A promise. On a piece of paper. The money was spent a long time ago.

But if Obama pinky swears he will pay it back will that make the retard feel better?

waterhorse's picture

Is this article a Pete Peterson puff piece?

moneybots's picture

"Unfortunately, printing money is the only way that we are going to be able to service the gigantic amounts of debt that we are accumulating."

But every dollar printed creates more debt.  It is a self defeating feedback loop.

The Miser's picture

The "Takers" have already "overtaken" the country.  Success is penalized with more taxes and more regulation to support the "social justice ideology."   

batterycharged's picture

"America is rapidly becoming a nation of takers.  An increasing number of Americans expect the government to take care of them from the cradle to the grave, and they expect the government to dig into the pockets of others in order to pay for it all. "


This is really getting old. Same crap on ZH, another day.

Although I missed the youtube video of some black person with an EBT.

Funny how people like this author represent "the takers" as the people on welfare.

From my point of view, the takers are the banks getting money at 0.25% and charging 30% for a retail card, car loan or pay day loan.

The takers, imho, are the Walmarts and major corporations that make shit for 2 cents in China and sell it to min-wage workers in America for $20. Making all the profits for themselves while everyone else gets shafted.

How much longer will ZH demonize THE POOR? The unemployed? The struggling and needy?

While praising the lazy assholes in society making money BY PRODUCING NOTHING THEMSELVES?

Well ZH is a haven for investors, the biggest fucking WELFARE class of them all.

So this is par course for ZH.

If I had to eliminate one person from society and it was between a person taking $2400/year in welfare or a Hedge Fund manager SUCKING $2 million out of wages and benefits for workers.  You can bet my decision would be fast and furious to let the HEdge fund loser HANG.


TradingChief's picture

Yup same crap every day and not one person will do anything about it. So Zero hedge raises the issues, you all rant, and do dick lol

So you are all destined to get fucked. Its as easy as that.

Omen IV's picture

the People however defined as sub groups are all considered targets of propaganda for cover for those extraction systems that need to be feed. The MIC, Banks, Pharma, Insurance cos are all coordinated via the services of Peterson and the Koch Bros to spread money to the politicians during and after their terms of service - see Chris Dodd and soon to be Jon Kyl from AZ examples -  as deferred payment  lobbyists for services during their term.

between the money and propaganda the middle class is targeted for complete destruction - Murder by Neglect - 160 million people - they will have nothing left and those that serve them for goods and services will lose massively as descretionary income is eliiminated and volume declines

its over!

Salon's picture

It's over soon?

That's something to hope for.

Every new beginning is some other new beginning's end.

Salon's picture

I know social security and medicare will be "means tested" even if they dont call it that.

Higher marginal tax rates, lower social security benefits, higher monthly premiums for medicare if total income is above a certain level makes a mockery of people who did roth conversions thinking they could pay their taxes now instead of later.

I have my assets safely and mostly legally placed in a way that I will get maximum bennies when I am older.

I am not gonna be the sucker.

User 3461's picture

"means testing" is a polite way to say nationalize you 401K. It's probably just a interim step to the same.

Salon's picture

They dont have to nationalize the 401k or any retirement plans to "nationalize" the 401k

The gubbmint can and will reduce your benefits based on your 401k balance.

People who converted roths now are suckers. They pay taxes now and get reduced benefits in the future.

Use financial planning and subterfuge to hide your assets so you can join the parasites.

Live better and contribute to the downfall of the system at the same time

manich's picture

I would like to see a breakdown of these dependents. If you are counting retirees like myself getting "my money" back in my social security check, then this article is BS.

CynicLaureate's picture

Well, deserved and promised as it may be, you're not getting "your" money back.  Your money was spent a long time ago, not invested.  You're getting the younger generations' money.

It's not about morality, it's about physics: only the output of the "private sector" adds bouyancy.  Everything else weighs us down.  Soon the whole thing will sink.

Salon's picture

Not only is he extracting money from the younger generation, he is extracting multiples of his contributions. He is getting far more than his contributions plus interest.

And the financially illiterate huff and puff about getting back what they are owed. I would love to give him back only his contributions plus interest.

He is just another parasite otherwise.

Widowmaker's picture

Hey clueless Michael, want to find the real entitlements and safety net?! They are called BANK HOLDING COMPANIES.  They are the cancer in the fucking room the banking shills, "economists" (HA!) and politicians are paid to ignore.  

"Yes, we will always need a safety net. There are many people out there that simply cannot take care of themselves. We certainly don't want to see anyone sleeping in the streets or starving to death."

When did ZH become a sorority pillow fight?!  I want those that fuck up to pay.   If that means fraud faggots in pinstripes starving or on the streets then PUT THEM THERE!

Anyone that quotes Chris "no fraud too large to look away" Cox loses all credibility.

northerngirl's picture

This is a vicious circle.  I was listening to an interview with a social worker regarding welfare benefits in my state, and the total dollar value of maximum benefits to be received for a family of 4 is about 60K per year.  How many small/micro businesses owners can afford that?  The flip side, unless more people are willing to start or grow their own business and work through the loop holes-legally in the system, this trend will only continue to grow.  Again, it is a vicious circle, but if we want to brake the circle it will have to be done through the American Small Business Owner.    

batterycharged's picture

"max benefits are $60,000"

Really? Is that if all the stars are aligned perfectly?

Maybe all 4 people in the house are pregnant women, they are all native americans, they are all disabled, they all are unemployed, they all pay property taxes, they all pay utilities?

I call bullshit on this. All these inflated numbers are ridiculous. SERIOUSLY, go and see what welfare you would qualify for if you were penniless and on the streets.

There ain't much there. Fucking check for yourself.

But then laughably, the same people say making $250,000 is not rich. Well then I guess $60,000 is poor! DOH!

Salon's picture

Subsidized housing and utilities
Subsidized health insurance.

Thats proly 30000 right there for a woman and three bastard kids and three deadbeat dads

User 3461's picture

Davy Crockett, Not Yours to Give, and all that....

Anyway, once you concede a molecule of [forced] support, the rest is just a matter of degree.

justamousesquared's picture

"Yes, we will always need a safety net. There are many people out there that simply cannot take care of themselves. We certainly don't want to see anyone sleeping in the streets or starving to death."


To a degree, I would agree with this point, but the safety net has become a safety "lazy boy"

Anonymous peon's picture

The beginning of the end is when people learn that they can vote themselvs access to the public treasury, it's all academic at that point, just a matter of time. The beauty of private charity is that it will take care of those with a genuine need but will say no to those without one. When soliciting help from a charity you have nothing to offer, you buy welfare with your vote.

Benjamin Glutton's picture

Got TARP? TALF? or any number of other Alphabailout soup?


The beginning of the end is when CORPORATIONS learn that they can HELP themselves to the public treasury.

go back to sleep.

Salon's picture

They both contribute to the end.

I cant wait.

Forward!........whoops...... retreat!!........retreat!!

Benjamin Glutton's picture
General Electric Makes New Lear Jet In Mexico Where Unemployment is 4.9%: U.S. Taxpayers Bailed Out G.E. For $182.5 Billion. Thanx G.E.

Five years ago, the building’s site in Querétaro, Mexico was dry cactus fields. Now it is a booming assembly line of half-built fuselages where they employ 1600 people.


The main draw is price. Executives say its cost of labor offers savings of 25% to 30% over the U.S. and at least 30% over Japan. Proximity to North American companies means shipments can arrive in days, not weeks, and executives can coordinate plans during working hours. Carlos Bello, head of the aerospace industry group, says the idea is to begin with parts and basic manufacturing before expanding into more advanced areas like assembly and design.

Its not just G.E. Its Many More:

It is the latest project of Mexico’s budding aerospace industry, a sector that has averaged 20% growth the past five years while attracting the likes of engine-maker General Electric Co., Textron Inc.’s Cessna Aircraft Co. and an array of suppliers tapped by giants Boeing Co. and Airbus, a unit of European Aeronautic Defense & Space Co.


Given the USG investment in these so called capitalist endeavors perhaps you might stop your whining...and think of the safety net as more of a dividend.

Dr. Sandi's picture

I can't wait until squadrons of Mexican made and operated jets are patrolling the border to keep uneducated, stinky Americans out of their newly prosperous nation.

smacker's picture

"An increasing number of Americans expect the government to take care of them from the cradle to the grave, and they expect the government to dig into the pockets of others in order to pay for it all."

A better description is that people in these states have given in to mankind's base instinct and been 'bought'. And of course they are mainly blue states voting for Obama. Those that are not blue, soon will be.

That is how socialism operates: buy the voters with largesse paid for by "the rich" (never defined). Result: socialism progressively takes over and people riot if anybody removes their largesse, or threatens to. There is no turning back from this catastrophe without national collapse, violent revolution or civil war.

Info: In the UK, as one travels to the north of England and Scotland - away from the productive and wealthier South East - the majority population relies more and more on government largesse - whole families with up to three generations who have never worked for a living. That is why when national elections come round, those regions vote solidly for the socialist Labour Party, because Labour have expanded the Welfare State over many decades to buy votes. All in the name of "fairness", "social justice" and "equality", of course.

It was astonishing (well actually it wasn't to those of us who understand how things operate) that after 13 years of Blair/Brown's gross mismanagement of the UK economy resulting in virtual collapse, the wrecking of society and a long list of anti-liberty laws enacted, that nearly 40% of the voters still voted Labour in May/2010.

bunnyswanson's picture

About 3 days ago, I posted a link to the CFR along with their assessment of the current US financial situation. 

I have just found out that their site is infected with "watering hole" malware.

I hope that anyone who may have actually read my post and hit the link will read this.  Can you spread the word? 

Here is article:

The most powerful of these organizations are the committee of 300, the Bilderberg Group, The Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission.

This week the CFR was in the news again, after a security breach revealed that their website had been hosting malware for days. This malware is allegedly used to track and spy on the people who visit the website, and some are even suggesting that this aspect of their security breach may be an inside job to gather information about people who are interested in the CFR.

According to Threatpost:

“Another high profile watering hole attack has been discovered, this one targeting visitors to the Council on Foreign Relations website…..Watering hole attacks target topically connected websites that an attacker believes members of a particular organization will visit often. An attacker will infect the website with malware which stings visitors in drive-by attacks. The site visitors are the ultimate targets; attackers are generally state-sponsored and hope to spy on their victims’ activities and siphon off business or military intelligence, experts say.

Security company FireEye reported Friday night that the CFR website had been compromised as early as Dec. 21 and was still hosting malware last Wednesday, the day after Christmas. Researchers there said the attackers were exploiting a zero-day vulnerability in Microsoft’s Internet Explorer browser.”

FireEye’s Darien Kindlund wrote on the company’s blog that:

“We can confirm that the malicious content hosted on the website does appear to use Adobe Flash to generate a heap spray attack against Internet Explorer version 8.0 (fully patched), which was the source of the zero-day vulnerability. We have chosen not to release the technical details of this exploit, as Microsoft is still investigating the vulnerability at this time.”

According to another source:

“Initial reports said that users whose browsers were set to support the Chinese language were the main targets, but FireEye explains that other categories were targeted as well. The exploit was served to all visitors who had set their browsers to languages such as English (US), Chinese (Taiwan), Chinese (China), Japanese, Korean or Russian.”

Situations like this is why it may be smart to begin thinking about using proxy servers and VPN services.

Author: JGVibes

TheObsoleteMan's picture

Thank you Immigration Act of 1965 for flooding the country with third world people with no marketable skills or education. The Feds dumped 12 thousand Mongs on the southside of Indianapolis a few years ago. They put them in several section 8 apartment complexes {they were fairly decent complexes until about fifteen years ago} all within about two miles of each other. They are still there. They will always be there, unless the Feds move them to somewhere else. Crime in the area has skyrocketed. I assume they are all on every social program the Feds have to offer. They are having more children. Illegal Mexicans and other assorted central American types have also flooded in. I don't even feel at home when I return to visit, it is like going to a UN summer camp. Make no mistake, this was all by design. The globalist feds looked at the 2000 census and said: "Look how white Indianapolis is! We can't allow that. Let's drop the diversity bomb on them." And did they ever. Third world grocery stores are everywhere. One is in the same building that not that long ago housed an up scale grocery that sold fresh, flown in black grouper. Unbelievable, but sadly true.

Couple that with the nigger culture our young people were sold, and you have the makings of a dependent people. Why force people into slavery, when they will beg for it? Put the chains on themselves. Vote for you to wear them too. This will continue until it can't. A friend of mine who owns a couple of auto service centers {a good friend to have!} recently said:" I'll work myself to death providing for my family, but I'll be damned if I will for someone Else's family". When we get to the point to where it is obvious to the producers that they can't get ahead because they are subsidizing an increasing number of deadbeat leaches, they will throw up their hands and say screw it, whats the point in this? WORK OFF THE BOOKS. STARVE THE BEAST.

Dr. Sandi's picture


Thank you Immigration Act of 1965 for flooding the country with third world people with no marketable skills or education.

Exactly. We already have a nation full of them, so why bring in more from outside?

sethstorm's picture


That's one way to make it worse, not better.  All you will do is invite a worse fate on everyone, especially yourself, especially from those that want to work and do so with legitimacy. 

That aside, you do have some good points about the rest of your post.

Widowmaker's picture

Total horseshit, Seth.

Barter and live.

Diogenes's picture

Some experts believe the only reason the Soviet Union survived as long as it did was because of the underground economy. For example, no one was allowed to own land but families could be allotted garden plots of up to 2 acres to grow food for home use. 98% of the fresh vegetables consumed in the towns and cities came from these family plots. Buying, selling and bartering between individuals, outside the official system, kept the system alive long after it should have collapsed.

The underground economy may be the only thing keeping millions of Americans alive in a few years.

mrdenis's picture

I work as a carpenter more as a hobby than necessity ,but living in the NE after Sandy it's been a bonanza for me ....I always insist on getting paid cash as well as I but all my materiels for cash my wife is a teacher making about 65K I'm now raking in 2X's a s much as she takes home after taxes long will this last 

TheObsoleteMan's picture

Legitimacy? What is legitimate about taking money I have worked for to give it to some who hasn't? We are at the point to were "legitimate work" is for suckers.

sethstorm's picture

Yet the private sector does plenty to add to the problem whether by negligence or willful action.


Clowns on Acid's picture

Umm...if we have so many states with more people on Gov't assistance than working....why does the US need the illegal immigrants "doing jobs that Americans won't do?"