I wonder how long it took things to go from "Do no Evil" to "Get out of the way and let the grown-ups work" and whether he is pleased or troubled? Facebook now has an (evil) agenda. Maybe it always did, but it was nice when people could think of it as just a nice social meeting place with lots of capability and storage.
As for being mundane? What? you don't think stealing everyone's biometric data, creating links between people based on biometric data and feeding it into the NSA database isn't creative? I personally would prefer less of the evil NSA type creativity, less of the Goldman derivatives of derivatives creativity and less of the creativity of fiat out of thin air ... and more mundane creativity, such as developing and manufacturing things that we need... as opposed the latest fad pumped on television.
Or maybe you were thinking Facebook, as a monolithic corporation hell bent on dominating the collection of people's personal data, should be more artistic. Say, what?
Mario, it was Google that used the "do no evil" motto. Now they're a public company it doesn't apply. And they also did the personal data >> linking >> database thingy. Imagine what they've learned from scanning gmail.
I'm just amazed, or actually not amazed but despondent, that people are universally attracted to a platform that is so pedestrian in its design. It is the digital equivalent of Levittown.
It was never creative in the first place. The initial premise was to create an aura of coolness amongst Ivy Leaguers. How exciting is that?
When it comes right down to it everything on the Internet, including this site, has the same basic scroll up scroll down architecture with comments underneath and ads on the side. As a matter of creative design it is worse than Levittown.
You are right, all the creativity is now focused on data collection and monetization. But it is not artistic creativity. And the artistic creativity is being forced into a mold created for other purposes.
I'm also not excited that the trend is now for everything to be forced into tiny mobile screens.
Levittown indeed. I remember the novel "coat hangers" and other cost cutting ideas. I was told that the inspiration came from the similar housing thrown up to house all the workers at the Hanford plutonium plant in Richland, WA.
Cruel but true. Like the Levittowners, Faceplanters can decorate their ticky-tacky little patch of internet real estate to make it seem like their own.
But as with tangible real estate, there's an authority that runs the place somewhat peremptorily, and always exacts a heavy price for its non-optional 'services.'
Sadly, the best way to enrich the mobile platform aesthetically is to make it wearable. Vernor Vinge convincingly described augmented reality wearable computing with virtual retinal display in his award-winning novel Rainbow's End.
If Vinge is right, always-on hands-free augmented reality will be far more addicting than today's smart phones. But at least it will get rid of the annoying blue glow from phone screens in theaters. And Brave New World's 'feelies' will finally arrive ... probably featuring Kowloon hotties.
any such accomplishment would either be destroyed by a government for 'security' reasons, or bought off by the fiat money changers and promptly destroyed.
Cruel but true. Like the Levittowners, Faceplanters can decorate their ticky-tacky little patch of internet real estate to make it seem like their own.
have you ever had the pleasure of taking a stroll through a Government office? cubicles like feeding pens except the inmates get to decorate the the 3.5 padded walls however they choose as they spend their days (ironically) on facebook and twitter as the phone goes to voicemail
each little working consumer with their similar identities, discouraged from thinking outside their boxy-cubicles, parading their endlessly similar family-foto-walls, peeking over the tops to share the latest tweet, eternal feedback loops. . .
Truthfully, I have not been wowed for a long time.
One thing I do enjoy is an App called Flipboard, which displays your twitter and selected news feed visually and textually as opposed to soley textually. So when I am looking at news and twitter referrals, I am looking at a feed that displays images and text. Similarly, the blogs I follow are also displayed visually.
The pages also flip like a book and I can switch to my main browser, RT or email links very easily.
The 2D desktop hasn't evolved much since, oh, Parc. Except games... totally interactive -- limited only by latency. Now, the desktop could evolve and (recapture some mind-share) if the user-forward approach like the app you mentioned brought something like visual meta-streaming into one's cartesian theater. Noo-cruise and zoom semantically!
... and most people have no appreciation for the construction of music, the message in art and the truth in history. But everyone has an appreciation for something.
Given the 99.99% certainty the we will have some level of economic and social collapse in the next few years, I predict that the future of social interaction will be very localized. I am thinking Bartertown Swapmeet on Saturdays and church on Sundays. Get to know your neighbors now.
Those rotary phones could survive drops from 10 feet and still work. Most of the phones today will be in the landfill in 3 years.
I don't use Faceplant, but my family is on every day, keeping in touch with distant friends and relatives. If it makes them happy, I'm happier. I would love to see an open source project challenge it - maybe something using a torrent core with no centralized storage.
All this "iShit" is sad for an old duffer like me. Everywhere I go all I see is people fucking with some sort of electronic device....especially children. Texing each other while sitting in the same room. I do a lot of hiking and backpacking in Glacier National Park. It's really pathetic to see kids playing on their iShit toys while walking in the park.
It's no wonder to me that YOUR spawn( I have no kids) are fat, fucking diabetic retards.
wb7: You're right. Adults are just as bad and so "duh"...children simply follow their example. It's no less pathetic and if that's the modern condition, then I'm glad I'll be dead soon. I don't know about Asia, but kids in America are truly pathetic in that too many, not all, but too many are learning NOTHING useful in school, home or anywhere else. Talk about "eaters" in society!!
Wait till you folks who criticize us "boomers" for our mistakes have to survive on the "production" of these mindless twits that are your spawn :)
And just who does hairball48 think raised the kids about whom the complaint was issued? All to often it was the boomers - and I'm one - who raised these kids. The boomers strike me as the most spoiled generation ever, so perhaps the problem really devolves back to the 'greatest generation', who survived the Depression and WW II and then decided to make certain that their children, the boomers, would never experience such hardships. Too many boomers never had to become adults, but that didn't stop them from becoming parents.
I remember a quote, not sure if it was Socrates or Aristotle, lamenting the worthlessness of the upcoming generation. I guess things never really change.
It is true, however, that social media is slightly more engaging than television. Television was purely a one way medium. But people didnt carry TV sets everywhere they went. We are leaving the age of TV domination and entering the mobile era.
With the advent of the so-called smart TV, in the USSA soon the TV will watch you. Movies like "Enemy of the State" and "Live Free or Die Hard" provided depictions of the intrusiveness of technology into our lives. Cell phones can be used to monitor conversations even when the phone is not in use. The Microsoft Kinect device and webcams can be used to 'watch' us. I guess what I'm getting at is this: be careful what you do in the presence of any sort of connected video device, especially if you're doing it with or to someone else.
At work managers and directores are easier to spot walking down hallways. Head down, eyes fixed, thumbing their smartphone. Say hi and they reply "Uh huh".
I, personally am confused about the entire subject. I love the earth, its many wonders and the gifts that it brings us and I find it amazing to have the opportunity to be here (as a traveler stopping by, an infant entity, prinsoner or simply as a biomachine with DNA ROM in a 3D MMRPG) even with the evil ones that run it and all of its potential hardships.
What I find is that I and most people are most happy or satisfied when we are able to "accomplish" (there must be a reason in our design that makes this key to survival). Some people are accomplishment junkies and will do anything to have that "high" reinforced regardless of the effects on other people, making all sorts of sociopathic rationalizations as to why their actions are justifiable regardless of the obviously negative consequences for others who, "good" people assume, have equal rights to life liberty and property.
TV (as watching live sports and theater before) allowed us to get an accomplishment high vicariously and empathatically through watching others. The bidirectional interactions of games and social media allow humans to get the satisfaction of participatory achievement without interfering with the entities who rule the world and do not want to be challenged by 7 billion people who feel compelled to make their mark by contributing something. That would be counterproductive to the mania of control freak, self-absorbed, sociopathic accomlishment junkies... who believe it is their right to own the benefits of all accomplishment. (IMO, they are a sick bunch ... maybe because they were deprived of breast feeding)
It is also clear that there is excess labor and technology so that the physical needs of the masses do not require the entire mass to maintain. This allows for leisure and leisure classes who can pursue accomplishment in a manner of their choosing without needing it to survive... these would be your so called "useless eaters" regardless of whether they fall at the top or the bottom of the artificially created economic scale.
One might assume, but it might not be true that accomplishments achieved through interactive electronic means is not as healthy for the mind and spirit as those achieved in RL. I do not know. IF MONEY WAS NOT AN OBJECT, does being able to save the fair maiden or develop a sustainable farm electronically substitute for bringing home a paycheck from a job you hate?
There is one line of thinking that the Internet and all of these follow on technologies empower individuals creatively and acting as a collective swarm.
This is true and many interesting things have happened.
I certainly could not do what I do without these technologies.
However, there are very powerful entrenched interests who are threatened by this empowerment.
They are applying every means possible (SOPA, CISPA, NDAA etc.) to try to clamp down so the whole thing becomes an innocuous channel for purveying their monoculture of perpetual consumption and forging a society of control.
Growing up in New Jersey in the 1950s, there was a significant Jewish population. Lest their poor little tykes feel left out, some Jewish families put up 'Hanukkah bushes'.
Have to keep up the impression. Billy Chrystal doing a commercial before Xmas pushing something for sale and he is sitting on a couch with a fully decorated Christmas tree behind him!
They must have filmed it at one of his gentile friends house?
The CON is Christmas is brought to you by the people whos ancestors had Jesus crucified.
How ironic is that? "It's the most wonderful time of the year"
Thanks for making MZ a target of your humor! He needs much more!! I still love the LNG tanker clip you did a few months back! It was sooooooooooooo to the point regarding impending disaster. All need to research the history of LNG shipping, especially around 1948 and the disaster in Texas and then determine if they want one of those super bombs in their home harbor!
Keep up the great work man! It is all good, per JHK!
Yesterday I wondered how it was that a FaceBook user had their account suspened for quoting Gabdhi, a quote stating depriving an entire nation of arms was the darkest day.
Today, thanks to William I now understand how and why that happened.
Funny thing too, Zuckerdickhead's CFO Sheryl Sandcuntberg was Larry Dickhead Summers bitch at the World Bank and his bitch when he was doing Turbo Tax Cheat's job at the Treasury years ago.
Anyone with Fuckbook has to realize that the government is so far up your ass that it is past funny.
"Be it resolved: that all men are created equal and endowed by the Creator with certain unalienable rights and that among these rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." peace be with all mankind. And sweet dreams all.
I wonder how long it took things to go from "Do no Evil" to "Get out of the way and let the grown-ups work" and whether he is pleased or troubled? Facebook now has an (evil) agenda. Maybe it always did, but it was nice when people could think of it as just a nice social meeting place with lots of capability and storage.
As for being mundane? What? you don't think stealing everyone's biometric data, creating links between people based on biometric data and feeding it into the NSA database isn't creative? I personally would prefer less of the evil NSA type creativity, less of the Goldman derivatives of derivatives creativity and less of the creativity of fiat out of thin air ... and more mundane creativity, such as developing and manufacturing things that we need... as opposed the latest fad pumped on television.
Or maybe you were thinking Facebook, as a monolithic corporation hell bent on dominating the collection of people's personal data, should be more artistic. Say, what?
Mario, it was Google that used the "do no evil" motto. Now they're a public company it doesn't apply. And they also did the personal data >> linking >> database thingy. Imagine what they've learned from scanning gmail.
Both are mundanely functional.
the all invasive book.
I'm just amazed, or actually not amazed but despondent, that people are universally attracted to a platform that is so pedestrian in its design. It is the digital equivalent of Levittown.
It was never creative in the first place. The initial premise was to create an aura of coolness amongst Ivy Leaguers. How exciting is that?
When it comes right down to it everything on the Internet, including this site, has the same basic scroll up scroll down architecture with comments underneath and ads on the side. As a matter of creative design it is worse than Levittown.
You are right, all the creativity is now focused on data collection and monetization. But it is not artistic creativity. And the artistic creativity is being forced into a mold created for other purposes.
I'm also not excited that the trend is now for everything to be forced into tiny mobile screens.
digital equivalent of Levittown
Now THAT's a great description!!!!!
Levittown indeed. I remember the novel "coat hangers" and other cost cutting ideas. I was told that the inspiration came from the similar housing thrown up to house all the workers at the Hanford plutonium plant in Richland, WA.
'the digital equivalent of Levittown'
Cruel but true. Like the Levittowners, Faceplanters can decorate their ticky-tacky little patch of internet real estate to make it seem like their own.
But as with tangible real estate, there's an authority that runs the place somewhat peremptorily, and always exacts a heavy price for its non-optional 'services.'
Sadly, the best way to enrich the mobile platform aesthetically is to make it wearable. Vernor Vinge convincingly described augmented reality wearable computing with virtual retinal display in his award-winning novel Rainbow's End.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End
If Vinge is right, always-on hands-free augmented reality will be far more addicting than today's smart phones. But at least it will get rid of the annoying blue glow from phone screens in theaters. And Brave New World's 'feelies' will finally arrive ... probably featuring Kowloon hotties.
I don't understand what the big deal is. Someone could come up with something that just blows the pants off Facebook.
any such accomplishment would either be destroyed by a government for 'security' reasons, or bought off by the fiat money changers and promptly destroyed.
That's an excellent point, Narus (Boeing subsidiary now) has their "facebook DPI programs" fully in place, so we know what's going on there.....
Cruel but true. Like the Levittowners, Faceplanters can decorate their ticky-tacky little patch of internet real estate to make it seem like their own.
have you ever had the pleasure of taking a stroll through a Government office? cubicles like feeding pens except the inmates get to decorate the the 3.5 padded walls however they choose as they spend their days (ironically) on facebook and twitter as the phone goes to voicemail
each little working consumer with their similar identities, discouraged from thinking outside their boxy-cubicles, parading their endlessly similar family-foto-walls, peeking over the tops to share the latest tweet, eternal feedback loops. . .
great observation. . .
time to go outside, thanks for the *poke*
Didnt you know?
What do you like. lol
Truthfully, I have not been wowed for a long time.
One thing I do enjoy is an App called Flipboard, which displays your twitter and selected news feed visually and textually as opposed to soley textually. So when I am looking at news and twitter referrals, I am looking at a feed that displays images and text. Similarly, the blogs I follow are also displayed visually.
The pages also flip like a book and I can switch to my main browser, RT or email links very easily.
The 2D desktop hasn't evolved much since, oh, Parc. Except games... totally interactive -- limited only by latency. Now, the desktop could evolve and (recapture some mind-share) if the user-forward approach like the app you mentioned brought something like visual meta-streaming into one's cartesian theater. Noo-cruise and zoom semantically!
Flying as if free
Noodles of notions flocking
Bound by N bodies
Of course the other solution is to follow the lead of Colorado and Washington. I would settle for that and a decent turntable.
two turntables, and a microphone
simplify life, lo fi prep for a de-volving "future"
enjoy your perspectives banzai, take care of the eyes, stay nimble in the neu year.
I have a nice pair of well worn headphones that keep me happy.
Happy Neu Year
Name your turntable, sir!
Music Hall MMF 9.1, but it's currently in mothballs on account of space or the lack thereof. :-(
... and most people have no appreciation for the construction of music, the message in art and the truth in history. But everyone has an appreciation for something.
Given the 99.99% certainty the we will have some level of economic and social collapse in the next few years, I predict that the future of social interaction will be very localized. I am thinking Bartertown Swapmeet on Saturdays and church on Sundays. Get to know your neighbors now.
Those rotary phones could survive drops from 10 feet and still work. Most of the phones today will be in the landfill in 3 years.
I don't use Faceplant, but my family is on every day, keeping in touch with distant friends and relatives. If it makes them happy, I'm happier. I would love to see an open source project challenge it - maybe something using a torrent core with no centralized storage.
That is where it will go eventually and Facebook will be the next AOL.
I doubt it, WB
All this "iShit" is sad for an old duffer like me. Everywhere I go all I see is people fucking with some sort of electronic device....especially children. Texing each other while sitting in the same room. I do a lot of hiking and backpacking in Glacier National Park. It's really pathetic to see kids playing on their iShit toys while walking in the park.
It's no wonder to me that YOUR spawn( I have no kids) are fat, fucking diabetic retards.
I have my own solution. I generally don't carry any web devices out of the home. I do carry a camera wherever I go.
I am always amazed to see people out for a meal etc and everyone is just glued to their phones. It's not just kids doung it.
It is worse here in Asia than anywhere else. But it is the modern condition.
wb7: You're right. Adults are just as bad and so "duh"...children simply follow their example. It's no less pathetic and if that's the modern condition, then I'm glad I'll be dead soon. I don't know about Asia, but kids in America are truly pathetic in that too many, not all, but too many are learning NOTHING useful in school, home or anywhere else. Talk about "eaters" in society!!
Wait till you folks who criticize us "boomers" for our mistakes have to survive on the "production" of these mindless twits that are your spawn :)
And just who does hairball48 think raised the kids about whom the complaint was issued? All to often it was the boomers - and I'm one - who raised these kids. The boomers strike me as the most spoiled generation ever, so perhaps the problem really devolves back to the 'greatest generation', who survived the Depression and WW II and then decided to make certain that their children, the boomers, would never experience such hardships. Too many boomers never had to become adults, but that didn't stop them from becoming parents.
I remember a quote, not sure if it was Socrates or Aristotle, lamenting the worthlessness of the upcoming generation. I guess things never really change.
I don't know where the kids where after WW2 that were spoiled-certainly not around my state. I had to work my ass off to get to where I'm at now.
I DO see generation X +Y as being used to many things we never had and will raise hell if they don't get them.
Recommended reading: http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17716-
It is true, however, that social media is slightly more engaging than television. Television was purely a one way medium. But people didnt carry TV sets everywhere they went. We are leaving the age of TV domination and entering the mobile era.
Perhaps the fascination will eventually wear off.
I have to hand it to the zuck...
He managed to introduce something dumber than TV to waste life over.
Homely girls leaning into a camera phone doing spagetti-faces.
With the advent of the so-called smart TV, in the USSA soon the TV will watch you. Movies like "Enemy of the State" and "Live Free or Die Hard" provided depictions of the intrusiveness of technology into our lives. Cell phones can be used to monitor conversations even when the phone is not in use. The Microsoft Kinect device and webcams can be used to 'watch' us. I guess what I'm getting at is this: be careful what you do in the presence of any sort of connected video device, especially if you're doing it with or to someone else.
Or in other words, apply the same precautions applicable to a short stay hotel.
At work managers and directores are easier to spot walking down hallways. Head down, eyes fixed, thumbing their smartphone. Say hi and they reply "Uh huh".
Those are dumb phones.
Or dumb phone users.
I, personally am confused about the entire subject. I love the earth, its many wonders and the gifts that it brings us and I find it amazing to have the opportunity to be here (as a traveler stopping by, an infant entity, prinsoner or simply as a biomachine with DNA ROM in a 3D MMRPG) even with the evil ones that run it and all of its potential hardships.
What I find is that I and most people are most happy or satisfied when we are able to "accomplish" (there must be a reason in our design that makes this key to survival). Some people are accomplishment junkies and will do anything to have that "high" reinforced regardless of the effects on other people, making all sorts of sociopathic rationalizations as to why their actions are justifiable regardless of the obviously negative consequences for others who, "good" people assume, have equal rights to life liberty and property.
TV (as watching live sports and theater before) allowed us to get an accomplishment high vicariously and empathatically through watching others. The bidirectional interactions of games and social media allow humans to get the satisfaction of participatory achievement without interfering with the entities who rule the world and do not want to be challenged by 7 billion people who feel compelled to make their mark by contributing something. That would be counterproductive to the mania of control freak, self-absorbed, sociopathic accomlishment junkies... who believe it is their right to own the benefits of all accomplishment. (IMO, they are a sick bunch ... maybe because they were deprived of breast feeding)
It is also clear that there is excess labor and technology so that the physical needs of the masses do not require the entire mass to maintain. This allows for leisure and leisure classes who can pursue accomplishment in a manner of their choosing without needing it to survive... these would be your so called "useless eaters" regardless of whether they fall at the top or the bottom of the artificially created economic scale.
One might assume, but it might not be true that accomplishments achieved through interactive electronic means is not as healthy for the mind and spirit as those achieved in RL. I do not know. IF MONEY WAS NOT AN OBJECT, does being able to save the fair maiden or develop a sustainable farm electronically substitute for bringing home a paycheck from a job you hate?
There is one line of thinking that the Internet and all of these follow on technologies empower individuals creatively and acting as a collective swarm.
This is true and many interesting things have happened.
I certainly could not do what I do without these technologies.
However, there are very powerful entrenched interests who are threatened by this empowerment.
They are applying every means possible (SOPA, CISPA, NDAA etc.) to try to clamp down so the whole thing becomes an innocuous channel for purveying their monoculture of perpetual consumption and forging a society of control.
Is anyone in that picture a Christian? Weird that they even do the Christmas thing. Sort of like Christians doing a bar mitzvah.
Growing up in New Jersey in the 1950s, there was a significant Jewish population. Lest their poor little tykes feel left out, some Jewish families put up 'Hanukkah bushes'.
that was in the 1950's. Today, they shave their Hanukkah bushes.
Have to keep up the impression. Billy Chrystal doing a commercial before Xmas pushing something for sale and he is sitting on a couch with a fully decorated Christmas tree behind him!
They must have filmed it at one of his gentile friends house?
The CON is Christmas is brought to you by the people whos ancestors had Jesus crucified.
How ironic is that? "It's the most wonderful time of the year"
Thanks for making MZ a target of your humor! He needs much more!! I still love the LNG tanker clip you did a few months back! It was sooooooooooooo to the point regarding impending disaster. All need to research the history of LNG shipping, especially around 1948 and the disaster in Texas and then determine if they want one of those super bombs in their home harbor!
Keep up the great work man! It is all good, per JHK!
Yesterday I wondered how it was that a FaceBook user had their account suspened for quoting Gabdhi, a quote stating depriving an entire nation of arms was the darkest day.
Today, thanks to William I now understand how and why that happened.
Suspended for quoting Ghandi. Thats says it all.
+1
Zukerdickhead.
Funny thing too, Zuckerdickhead's CFO Sheryl Sandcuntberg was Larry Dickhead Summers bitch at the World Bank and his bitch when he was doing Turbo Tax Cheat's job at the Treasury years ago.
Anyone with Fuckbook has to realize that the government is so far up your ass that it is past funny.
"Be it resolved: that all men are created equal and endowed by the Creator with certain unalienable rights and that among these rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." peace be with all mankind. And sweet dreams all.