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Tokyo Soil – Blanketed With Fukushima Radiation – Would Be Considered “Radioactive Waste” In the United States

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Tokyo Soil – Blanketed With Fukushima Radiation – Would Be Considered “Radioactive Waste” In the United States

We noted in August that some parts of Tokyo have more radiation than existed in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zones. And see this and this.

There are indications that radiation levels are increasing in Tokyo.

Nuclear engineer Arnie Gundersen took 5 random soil samples in Tokyo recently, and found that all 5 were so radioactive that they would be considered radioactive waste in the United States, which would have to be specially disposed of at a facility in Texas:

Tokyo Soil Samples Would Be Considered Nuclear Waste In The US from Fairewinds Energy Education on Vimeo.

Indeed, shortly after the earthquake, U.S. government officials notes widespread contamination throughout northern Japan, including Tokyo, and said:

Entire region would be required to be posted as radiological area.

No wonder the potential evacuation of Tokyo has been quietly discussed by Japanese officials ever since the earthquake hit.

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Tepco: Less Than 2 Feet of Water Left in Fukushima Reactor

NHK reports today that only 60 centimeters – or 23.62 inches – of water still cover the number 2 reactor:

Tokyo Electric Power Company says it has found that the cooling water in one of the damaged reactors at Fukushima is only 60 centimeters deep, far lower than previously thought.

 

The utility confirmed the water level by inserting an endoscope into the No.2 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant on Monday.

 

TEPCO had thought that the water level was about 3 meters [i.e. almost 10 feet - 5 times as high as actually exists]. It has been injecting nearly 9 tons of water per hour into the reactor to cool the melted fuel that has fallen to the bottom of the containment vessel.

 

But the shallow level indicates that the water continues to leak into the reactor building through the suppression chambers under the vessel.

 

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The low level suggests that decommissioning the reactor could be much more difficult. The operator may need to repair more parts of the containment vessel so it can be filled with water to block the strong radiation.

 

The No. 2 reactor’s containment vessel is believed to have been damaged on March 15th with the sudden loss of pressure inside the reactor.

There are other troubling data coming from unit 4. For example, hydrogen levels within the reactor have increased 500% in the last two weeks.

Temperatures have also fluctuated fairly dramatically within reactor 2 in recent weeks.

DID FUKUSHIMA MELTDOWN 30 YEARS AGO?

We assume the following is just a bad translation or ambiguious statement.  German speakers: Please let us know...

 

We've previously noted that .

This month, German state television broadcaster ZDF (which has previously interviewed workers at Fukushima) ran a special on Fukushima which - according to a Youtube translation - claims:

A new investigation discovered that the electricity company TEPCO has been falsifying documents for decades, has hushed up serious incidents, including a nuclear meltdown in Fukushima that was concealed for 30 years.

Here is a screenshot from the English subtitles (viewable by clicking "CC" at the bottom of the Youtube video):


We assume that this is a mistranslation of German into English or - if it is not a mistranslation - that the concealment for 30 years is referring to a "serious incident" other than a meltdown.

We would appreciate it if a fluent German speaker could verify the translation of the phrase "a nuclear meltdown in Fukushima that was concealed for 30 years", and - if accurate - any information about what is actually being referenced.

 

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Tue, 03/27/2012 - 14:42 | 2294840 Not Too Important
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If you can still find them, look at the significant increase in Infant Mortality Rates after 3/11, both in Japan and the US.

These are unborn children that were not going to be aborted, but carried to term. These numbers also include the jump in SIDS cases after 3/11.

Thousands of "deaths", headed towards the tens of thousands, with a significant increase over norm, carefully recorded by our governments. Hard to find now. Hmm.

The next stat is the over 30% rate of thyroid nodules on children being investigated. There don't seem to be any specific study parameters, but the numbers are horrific. We on the NA West Coast are about 4-6 months behind Japan on illness rates.

The radiation is killing the kids first. Easy to miss the Infant Mortality stats, because we don't see them as well as we would see teenagers or adults dropping. But kill it is.

I hope you do have a cure, whatever causes cancer. But you'd better get off your a$$ and prove something quick, or your kids are toast, too.

Then us.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 12:31 | 2294671 Jim in MN
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Sounds like someone blinded you with junk science...

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:26 | 2294350 oddjob
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Greenpeace was co-opted long ago. Don't look for any leadership from them.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 17:02 | 2295633 Reptil
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neh leadership?

I don't know what's happened exactly. It could be that someone is keeping them under close checks. Or that they (after the Rainbow Warrior was sunk) are waiting for the right moment to take some action. Or maybe as Foundation they have vested interest in not risking their office jobs. Or perhaps they've been partially infiltrated like all the green parties here in europe (who started to put out propaganda in favour of the "Nuclear Renaissance" before march last year)? (They bought the CO2 neutral propaganda crap hook, line and sinker.)

The DID send out a team to actively measure radiation in Japan (as the first) when Tepco was still downplaying the whole thing as "minor accident". And their ship was halted off the Japanese coast, not to enter territorial waters. So... what happened next?

I think we can safely assume that the anti-nuclear movement of the eightties has been succesfully neutured.

Radical threatening circumstances in a controlled environment require decentralised radical counteraction. that will happen naturally, but will it be on time, and enough, or even effective?

Talking with, or persuading the AEIA, NRC, NSC or any government apart from a few in europe, doesn't help, the Fukushima aftermath proves this.

The Fukushima disaster's handling shows the real face of the global rulers. And it ain't pretty.

@__@

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:20 | 2294288 rwe2late
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Information regarding Japan's radiation exposure has been available since at least October 2011.

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/11/japan-received-enormous-exposures-radiation-fukushima

 The link between radiation exposure and cancer is a scientifically proven and accepted fact.

http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/RadiationSafety/biological/stochastic/cancer.htm

 

 

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:36 | 2294192 a growing concern
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Because the deaths are not happening now.  Wait five years, and you'll see a cancer cluster the size of an entire fucking nation.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 13:16 | 2294852 Not Too Important
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Oh, yes they are. Keep an eye on pediatric oncology rates. A real growth industry now.

 

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:58 | 2294238 i-dog
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What is the basis for your "5 years"? What is the basis for your "entire fucking nation"?

If it were to be that bad in 5 years, then there should be a sizable problem evident now, since we are already one year into your timeline. Which is exactly my point ... all the scaremongering of a year ago has resulted in ... absolutely nothing!!!!

Oh...by the way...I'm in the biochemical business and can tell you that every single major cancer is caused by viruses, not radiation.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 22:08 | 2296241 malek
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 that every single major cancer is caused by viruses, not radiation

Even if this is true in its absoluteness, which I doubt, you conveniently sidestepped the question what suddenly allows such a virus to cause cancer, while most of the time it can't?

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 07:23 | 2296714 i-dog
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"Even if this is true in its absoluteness, which I doubt"

You "conveniently sidestepped" stating your qualifications and experience for arriving at such doubt!?! I listed many of them above ... maybe you can quote some others that you "doubt" and I'll answer you.

What allows viruses to cause cancer is simple reproduction within a cell and then infection of neighbouring cells. The growing clump of infected and commandeered cells is the tumour, or cancer.

There are also many other long-lived viral diseases that don't cause cancers ... like chicken pox/shingles, hepatitis and glandular fever ... even though they can never be cured without also destroying the nerve cells within which they hide.

Other viruses, like bird and swine flu, can cause serious illness but not cancers.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 22:27 | 2299416 malek
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I have not seen you state any qualification besides some very general "working in the biochemical business".

However, what you are spewing here gets the crazier the more I scan over your comments: "vaccination leads to hyperactive immuns system" (only for infants?) "Gardasil is a con job"

"Extreme radiation will cause burns -- including cells immediately adjacent to ingested micro-particles -- but not cancers." Bullshit. You would be right if you said the do not immediately cause cancer, but in the long term they severely increase risk of cancer.

Oh, viruses do "simple reproduction within a cell?" Well that's breaking news.
But how could they control to only infect only/primarily "neighbouring cells?"
I thought the biggest part of cancer is getting the cell to proliferate without limits, by ignoring growth inhibitors as well as the PCD.

And you still haven't answered my question "what suddenly allows such a virus to cause cancer, while most of the time it can't?"

 

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 17:11 | 2295649 Reptil
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Oh but there is a sizable problem right now i-dog. It's just not being reported on. And sleeping dogs are too lazy to go hunt information themselves so it seems.

ONE THIRD OF ALL TESTED FUKUSHIMA INFANTS HAVE ALREADY LARGE NODULES IN THEIR THYROID GLANDS. That's way way faster than happened in Belarus. EDIT: Flattrader already posted this.

AND THE ANIMAL POPULATION (BIRDS) HAVE NEARLY DISAPPEARED FROM THE HEAVILY CONTAMINATED AREAS.

They don't have to wait 5 years... It'll happen much much sooner. :-(

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 12:08 | 2294567 a growing concern
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Just one example of why you're full of shit.  From Wikipedia, regarding the filming of "The Conqueror" which took place in Utah in an area with a high level of fallout from nuclear testing:

...of some 220 cast and crew who filmed a 1956 film, The Conqueror, on location near St. George, Utah, ninety-one had come down with cancer, with an unheard of 41 per cent morbidity rate.[6] Of these, forty-six had died of cancer by 1980. Among the victims were John Wayne and Susan Hayward, the stars of the film.

I'm sure that's all a coincidence, though, right?  Or maybe a virus?

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 15:05 | 2295164 Cathartes Aura
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documentaries have been made regarding "downwinders" - people in southern Utah targeted by Nevada nuclear tests designed to maximise the radiation fallout in (then) small towns east of the tests. . . that most of these towns were heavily populated by mormons, who believed any children born with deformities, etc. were "gifts from god," allowed the tests to continue without public outcry for some time.

During Hatch's first year in the Senate in 1977, reporter Gordon Eliot White of the Deseret News published the first of what would be a lengthy series of articles detailing government malfeasance in atmospheric testing of nuclear bombs at the Nevada Test Site. Over the next 13 years White's articles detailed how the government determined to proceed with the tests, and with mining and refining, without adequate safeguards for innocent citizens whose health would be damaged.

Hatch discovered a clause in the proposed Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Kiribati and Tuvalu to pay at least $100 million to residents of the Marshall Islands for injuries similar to those of Utahns, and Hatch took the treaty hostage. His hold on consideration of the treaty eventually got agreement from the Reagan administration to agree not to oppose radiation compensation for Utah citizens, but it still took another five years to get the bill through. The Radiation Compensation Act of 1990 provided compensation for citizens injured by radioactive fallout from the tests

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrin_Hatch#Nuclear_testing

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:24 | 2294338 Diogenes
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It is impossible to prove anyone ever died of radioactivity unless they bit off a chunk of uranium and swallowed it.

My father worked in the Eldorado Nuclear plant in Port Hope Ontario. He died of cancer but not right away. It took 4 bouts of cancer over a 20 year period to do him in. He went to his grave saying there is no danger in nuclear energy and no one can prove him wrong. After all he might have gotten cancer anyway. Lots of people do.

By the way I would not be surprised if you were right about the role of viruses in cancer. Do you have a web site on this? I would like to see the evidence.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 13:46 | 2294915 smiler03
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You can die of acute radiation sickness in less than two days if the radiation is "high" enough.

edit: citation added

"Two hours after the accident, Kelley’s condition improved as he regained coherence. However, it was soon clear that Kelley would not survive long. Tests showed his bone marrow was destroyed, and the pain in his abdomen became difficult to control despite medication. Kelley died 35 hours after the accident."

http://listverse.com/2010/03/25/10-famous-incidences-of-death-by-radiation/

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 22:11 | 2296246 malek
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And you are implying that is happening somewhere in Japan?

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:11 | 2294303 rwe2late
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every single major cancer is caused by viruses, not radiation.

LOL

Didn't you once work for the cigarette industry?

Or was it the coal mining industry?

Or maybe Monsanto?

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:29 | 2294330 i-dog
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No, moron. I'm in the business of curing so-called "incurable terminal cancers" using simple and inexpensive anti-viral treatments.

Go and waste your time shooting some other messengers, you performing seal !!

 

PS. I won't be bothering to answer other commenters who simply quote MIC-media propaganda or resort to ad hominem. Just the facts, ladies and gentlemen!

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:45 | 2294451 rwe2late
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 i-dog

Apparently, PREVENTING cancers and other health problems from occurring (other than perhaps by some anti-viral inoculation) is something infathomable to you.

Your proclaimed certainty of a solely viral causative agent for cancer has led you to an illogical dismissal of the ENVIRONMENTAL factors

which increase the LIKELIHOOD of developing cancer and other health issues,

regardless of whether the (arguably) immediate causative agent is viral.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 12:49 | 2294611 i-dog
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Thank you for changing your approach from innuendo to actual argument. I'll respond (and ignore the "unfathomable" insult).

You misunderstand antivirals. Anti-virals are not a form of innoculation ... they directly attack the virus and either partially disable its ability to enter or exit a cell (as Tamiflu does to a specific strain of bird flu), or destroy its protective coating and expose the nucleus to destruction by the normal immune system (as ours do). The Gardasil HPV (cervical cancer) vaccine is a massive criminal con job that will do magnitudes more harm than good.

You also confuse environmental factors with the actual viral disease. For example, ultraviolet exposure can aggravate skin cancer, but it doesn't cause it. Neither does radiation cause cancers unless there is massive tissue damage from contact with radioactive particles that leaves the site open to infection. That's quite different to some of the outrageous claims about background radiation causing "whole countries to be slaughtered by cancer within 5 years" (Like global warming and balanced budgets, it's never this year!!).

I'm now quickly coming to the conclusion (in light of the complete lack of hard evidence of widespread deaths and sickness one year after Fukushima) that the whole radiation bogey-man was firstly trotted out during the 1950s cold war to increase fear of the russkies and inflate military spending, then subsequently jumped on by the fossil fuel industry to nobble the nuclear power industry ... as well as more recently being used to achieve globalist political objectives in the Middle East. A three-fer!

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 14:14 | 2295009 pods
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Well radiation will certainly trigger the growth of cancers.  Cancer is merely the body's reparitive function run amok.  

When your body is not functioning properly, systems designed to stop or start processes do not function.  So you get cancer, etc.

Be careful about how much weight you give to the viral theory of cancer.  The viruses might be a trigger, but the improperly functioning immune system is the actual cause.

I applaud your approach to natural means of helping the immune system. As I said above, I have worked with many natural anti-virals (EGCG for one) and have seen their effectiveness on viruses (H5N1).

It sounds like you are involved in natural proteolytic enzymes?  

Good road to be on, I take them (systemically) daily.  Does wonders for quick recovery from weight training.

pods

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 07:52 | 2296190 i-dog
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"Be careful about how much weight you give to the viral theory of cancer. The viruses might be a trigger, but the improperly functioning immune system is the actual cause."

An "improperly functioning immune system" is, of course, the cause of all illnesses and diseases. The issue is the causative agent. For example, the immune system cannot deal with swallowing nitric acid or arsenic ... is that also an "improperly functioning immune system"!?! If the immune system cannot deal with a particular virus that has been ingested, is that "improperly functioning" or "a function for which it was not designed"?!

In the case of all cancers we have studied and treated#, the cause is viruses. The fact that the treatment kills the virus and the body then returns to normal function is a fair indication that there is nothing wrong with the immune system but rather that the immune system was not designed (ie. evolved) to penetrate the virus' protective coating. Further selective evolution would, of course, eventually produce immune systems that can recognise and destroy such viruses (because those that couldn't would die off without reproducing).

Very high radiation exposure will cause destruction of bone marrow function and its ability to produce blood cells ... but that is not one of the "cancers" that the scare mongers fear. In any event, the damage should be patently obvious within 6 months of exposure and Fukushima is now 12 months behind us.

Madame Curie died from the effects of bone marrow destruction after working continuously with massive doses of radiation for 40 long years!! Her husband, Pierre Curie died in a motor accident after more than 10 years of massive exposure. Neither of them were reported with cancers even though there is a very high probability that they both also ingested radioactive particles in their laboratory dust.

My issue is with the scare mongering around projected effects of the levels of radiation in the air, water and soil around Fukushima. They are nothing like the levels found adjacent to atomic test sites or in Madame Curie's laboratory and, IMO, will not cause "cancers".

Thank you, Pods, for your reasoned reply. The fanatical knee-jerk reactions and straw men displayed in most other replies to my original comment has disgusted me (though, fortunately, only one of them is from a poster whose opinions I normally respect).

 

PS. Your guess on our treatments is correct.

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# This includes lung cancer, breast cancer, skin cancer, liver cancer, colon cancer, pancreatic cancer, prostate cancer, cervical cancer, and a number of others I can't recall off the top of my head.

Thu, 03/29/2012 - 08:25 | 2300112 AchtungAffen
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Guess then if you get some hot particles stuck on your tissue, those particles that are flying off the reactor, then nothing'll happen... after all Madame Curie whatever... You know, internal emitters whatever...

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 17:31 | 2295699 Reptil
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CANNABIS HELPS THE BODY CURE CANCER !!!!!!!!!

short introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cUC8tjoB_0

some more information: http://www.420magazine.com/forums/cancer/

different source: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2008/11/understanding-the-effects-of...

research: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-04/joci-aco032609.php

US Gov Patent: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL...

Lung Cancer cut in half by use of Marijuana (not smoking it of course!) http://current.com/1r1vm4c

This makes interesting reading: https://coto2.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/prop-19-monsanto-and-gmo-terminat...

There's a reason Obummer doesn't keep his promise to legalise, and the Federal Gov. is very active in trying to prevent States to allow use of medical Marijuana:
http://www.sfweekly.com/2011-10-26/news/obama-war-medical-marijuana-ray-...

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Practical use: VAPORISER Use organically grown Marijuana (leaves also good, won't get you high that's not my purpose!). Mix with Chamomille for a pleasant taste and effect.
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/vaporisers.cfm

If they ban that, it's easy enough to construct one of your own. Heating the herb and inhaling the vapor is enough.

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Yeah so, it's illegal in many countries (not mine). Something that cures cancer has been made illegal.
The lies are showing....

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:43 | 2294440 Ruffcut
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WHo have you cured???? Fucktard moron.  More people are dying of cancer everyday, and you are curing who???

The body can only cure any ailment. Treatments can assist the body, like antibotics, which never cured anything. If the immune system is weak, then your antiviral fix is short lived and will not work. IF it did, then why have we heard of your bullshit.

YOu sound like a shill, troll and asshole combo plate, adorned with dog shit.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:42 | 2294430 flattrader
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Stop talking your book and do some reading.

www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov%20Chernobyl%20book.pdf

Explain to the more than 4,000 children in the former USSR who suffered from thyroid cancer post-Chernobyl that they caught a virus...and that radiation had nothing to do with it.

http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/medullary-carcinoma-of-t...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/world/asia/japan-studies-radiation-eff...

 

 

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:47 | 2294429 rwe2late
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 misplaced comment deleted

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:06 | 2294287 flattrader
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Hey moron,

There is a sizable problem evident now...

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201202220053

Government sat on survey of radiation in Fukushima children's thyroid glands

Excerpt--

>>>

The thyroid glands of children in Fukushima Prefecture were exposed to radiation doses of up to 35 millisieverts following the accident at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan said Feb. 21.

The estimate is based on results collected in Iwaki, Fukushima Prefecture, late last March, but not released by the government at the time.

The government's local response headquarters tested the thyroid glands of 1,080 children in Fukushima Prefecture on the advice of the commission. According to materials released by the commission, 11 of 137 under the age of 15 checked in Iwaki had relatively high radiation doses in their thyroid glands of 5 to 35 millisieverts. The second highest dose was 25 millisieverts and the third-highest dose was 21 millisieverts...<<<

Go back to sleep on top of your doghouse.

>>>Oh...by the way...I'm in the biochemical business and can tell you that every single major cancer is caused by viruses, not radiation.<<<

You really are an idiot.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:05 | 2294282 AchtungAffen
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IT took decades to assess the human impact of something like Chernobyl. And while it wasn't all "deaths", there was way too much "illness". People whose lives would never be the same, because of damage incurred due to radiation poisoning. People becoming infertile, children born with lots of problems due to radiation, cancer after cancer after cancer, etc...

And let's not even start talking about food production, and wildlife.

That's the trick of radiation. It's not something appreciable immediately. It takes a long time to assess the real damage. But our i-Pad driven minds can't see anything besides the immediate, I'm afraid.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:13 | 2294305 i-dog
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"lots of problems due to radiation, cancer after cancer after cancer, etc..."

You apparently didn't bother to read my last sentence above. Radiation doesn't cause cancer ... viruses do. Stop commenting on things that you know nothing about other than what you have read in the MSM.

Extreme radiation will cause burns -- including cells immediately adjacent to ingested micro-particles -- but not cancers.

The trainer certainly has all the performing seals jumping through hoops at the sound of the whistle!!

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 15:01 | 2295149 AchtungAffen
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Radiation with sufficiently high energy can ionize atoms. Most often, this occurs when an electron is stripped (or "knocked out") from an electron shell, which leaves the atom with a net positive charge. Because cells and more importantly the DNA can be damaged, this ionization can result in an increased chance of cancer. An individual cell is made of trillions of atoms. The probability of ionizing radiation causing cancer is dependent upon the absorbed dose of the radiation, as adjusted for the damaging tendency of the type of radiation (equivalent dose) and the sensitivity of the organism or tissue being irradiated (effective dose).

Sauce is wiki. What's the source for radiation doesn't cause cancer?

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 16:46 | 2295591 flattrader
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Yes.  This is fairly elemental.  Oddly, enough this ionization was evident when mutant snowflakes fell in Japan post-Fukushima.

That i-dog doesn't understant this is only proof he is an i-diot...and why should we care...???...other than the fact that he is somehow in volved in cancer treatment development, which makes him i-dangerous.

 

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 14:38 | 2295077 Dingleberry
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I heard radiation is good for you!! Fox news said so!

So all the people that lay in the sun and get skin cancer instead got a virus? Or smokers that got lung cancer got a virus? 

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:35 | 2294387 Ruffcut
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If you are in the biochem industry that is why you fuckards are so fucking stupid.

Rad exposure alters DNA. Altered DNA weakens the immune system. Weakened immune systems are subject to bacterial, viral and fungal attack.

Instead of a race of people that growing stronger, with contamination and poor food, the race is getting fatter and weaker.

Go make some synthy pharma shit and stick it up you ass, your fucking moron.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:44 | 2294436 i-dog
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LOL ... "altered DNA weakens the immune system" ... total gibberish!! The level of radiation needed to disable the immune system is far in excess of the levels seen in Fukushima and Tokyo. Even the guys who were wading in the water at Fukushima were released from hospital a few days later. Give me some facts!

"Go make some synthy pharma shit" ... more fucking gibberish from another performing seal!!

As I've stated on here a number of times over the past year or so, we deal only with natural antivirals.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 12:50 | 2294761 pods
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The viral theory of cancer is certainly plausible, although nutrition shows a much higher correlation to cancer.

I have also worked with natural anti-virals.  Maybe even for your company, who knows?  Small world.

Depressed immune systems, which most, if not all westerners possess, will lead to bad results.  As will the stresses on the body of the western diet.

It is not the virus per se, it is the bodies inability to clear the virus that would be the problem.

There will never be a pill, natural or synthetic, that will "cure" any chronic disease, of which cancer is one.

pods

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 15:06 | 2295172 oldman
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Pods:

"Depressed immune systems, which most, if not all westerners possess, will lead to bad results.  As will the stresses on the body of the western diet."

I have thirty years experience in improving the so-called 'immune system' of my own body. Diet seems, in my case, to make the greatest difference followed closely by environmental stress from loud and aggressive human voices.

What I have found is that when I am at my peak of well-being, the body reacts so fast that it goes through the symptoms of illnes in half the normal time; I get very sick fast, but it all passes in a flash. This does not happen if I am eating sugar, fried foods, or dairy/eggs; it does not happen in an angry conflictive environment----try living without anger and conflict for a month and you will note a difference.

Depressed immune systems are the real illness in most of the world, imo, but I can only speak for this oldman who does not have a depressed immune system.

Thanks for pointing this out, "Depressed immune systems will lead to bad results." really caught my eyer  om

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 08:49 | 2296733 i-dog
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Good advice on reducing stress. The hormonal imbalance brought on by stress wreaks havoc with the immune system (of which the digestive system is an integral part).

As for diet, the main culprits are the proteins that the immune system can't "digest" and therefore treat as "foreign invaders" rather than "food". The actual proteins to be avoided by an individual depend on genetic makeup, but the most common ones are gluten (in wheat flour), casein (in milk) and albumin (in eggs). More sensitive individuals (generally those whose immune systems have been hypersensitised too early by infant vaccinations and/or feeding with aninal milk formula from birth) will also often have trouble with peanuts, strawberries and other "allergies".

Depressed immune systems are a significant problem, but so are the spreading viral diseases that were almost unheard of a century ago. I suspect (but have no evidence) that more than just bird and swine flu have been "engineered".

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 17:35 | 2295711 Reptil
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Oldman, please share your findings?

I'm VERY interested.

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 15:42 | 2295250 pods
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Check out the Dr. Furhman link I posted above. He looks at things nutritionally and cures heart disease, diabetes (Type II) and all sorts of chronic issues.

Glad you found out about health 30 years ago!  Kudos.

I now eat about a half pound of spinach each morning for breakfast.  I whip up a shake in a vitamix with an apple, banana, pear, cup of blueberries, cup of seeded grapes, strawberries, spinach, and a couple tablespoons of ground flax and sunflower seeds.  (The fat in the seeds helps the absorption of the fat soluble nutrients in the veggies.)

Stuff is like magic for energy levels as well as overall health.

You can toss in any fruit or veggie you like too.  Vitamix tears through any of it.

Edit: I have also learned acceptance, and now enjoy more of my free time gardening, fishing and playing Wizard 101 with my kids instead of worrying about things I cannot control!

pods

Thu, 03/29/2012 - 05:58 | 2299926 Kiwi Pete
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Hi Pods, that sounds like the Green Smoothie I've been having for breakfast the last 2 years. Great energy booster and all-round feel-great shake. I make mine without the seeds, blueberries and grapes. Cheers Peter

Thu, 03/29/2012 - 09:54 | 2300358 pods
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Yep.  I bring them in to work and people are shocked at what I put in them, then are amazed at the energy that it gives you.

We bought a vitamix (fancy blender) that pulverizes anything you put in it.  

If you can grind some seeds and toss them into your shakes it makes the fat soluble vitamins more bioavailable.  We use a simply coffee grinder.

pods

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 17:37 | 2295718 Reptil
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Another one right here: Wiliam Li "Can we eat to starve cancer?"
http://www.ted.com/talks/william_li.html

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 14:14 | 2295005 TradingTroll
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So much disinformation here. Manchester University says cancer is man-made.That means its a business, someone's business, to profit from the pain and suffering and gosh an awfully low $2m cap per patient on treatment in the US. Pre-Fukushims, 30+ of Japanese died of cancer. Thats a lot of money x $2m in the US.

 

"Despite slivers of tissue from hundreds of Egyptian mummies being rehydrated and placed under the microscope, only one case of cancer has been confirmed."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1320507/Cancer-purely-man-say-scientists-finding-trace-disease-Egyptian-mummies.html#ixzz1qLH1gjMP
Tue, 03/27/2012 - 14:20 | 2295022 pods
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I really hope you are not aiming this at me?

From your article:

"Tumours were rare until recent times when pollution and poor diet became issues, the review of mummies, fossils and classical literature found."

I specifically mentioned poor diet in my OP, and again down below in this thread.  When I say poor diet, I mean the WESTERN diet.  Every flavor of it.

And have also in the past here pimped out a doctor who is curing all sorts of disease that most doctors will call genetic, etc.

http://www.drfuhrman.com/

pods

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:19 | 2294328 flattrader
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Yes. Why should we listen to someone like this (see below,) when we can listen to a moron or shill like yourself?

http://www.ratical.org/radiation/inetSeries/nwJWG.html

Excerpt--

>>>"Licensing a nuclear power plant is in my view, licensing random premeditated murder. First of all, when you license a plant, you know what you're doing--so it's premeditated. You can't say, "I didn't know." Second, the evidence on radiation-producing cancer is beyond doubt. I've worked fifteen years on it [as of 1982], and so have many others. It is not a question any more: radiation produces cancer, and the evidence is good all the way down to the lowest doses."<<<

 

>>>The following is chapter 4 from the 1982 book Nuclear Witnesses, Insiders Speak Out and is an interview with Dr. John Gofman detailing his personal experiences and knowledge regarding the nuclear establishment. Dr. Gofman is a Professor Emeritus at the University of California, Berkeley (Ph.D. in nuclear-physical chemistry and an M.D.) who was the first Director of the Biomedical Research Division of the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory from 1963-65 and one of nine Associate Directors at the Lab from 1963-1969. He was involved in the Manhattan Project and is a co-discoverer of Uranium-232, Plutonium-232, Uranium-233, and Plutonium-233, and of slow and fast neutron fissionability of Uranium-233. He also was a co-inventor of the urnayl acetate and columbium oxide processes for plutonium separation. He has taught in the radioisotope and radiobiology fields from the 1950s at least up into the 1980s, and has done research in radiochemistry, macromoloecules, lipoprotiens, coronary heart disease, arterioscleroisis, trace element determination, x-ray spectroscopy, chromosomes and cancer and radioation hazards. Starting in 1969 he began to challenge the AEC claim that there was a "safe threshold" of radiation below which no adverse health effects could be detected...<<<

Tue, 03/27/2012 - 18:07 | 2295799 narapoiddyslexia
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The fact that Arnie Gunderson "nuclear bullshitter extraordinaire" is quoted as if he were credible does not help GW or anyone else who takes your side of the argument. Personally, I think you're right, but the whole situation is not helped by quoting flakes like Gunderson.

http://theenergycollective.com/rodadams/59725/arnie-gundersen-going-inte...

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 09:35 | 2297025 TheFourthStooge-ing
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narapoiddyslexia said:

The fact that Arnie Gunderson "nuclear bullshitter extraordinaire" is quoted as if he were credible does not help GW or anyone else who takes your side of the argument. Personally, I think you're right, but the whole situation is not helped by quoting flakes like Gunderson.

http://theenergycollective.com/rodadams/59725/arnie-gundersen-going-inte...

I'd like to thank you for posting the link to this article. It is full of wonderful examples of logical fallacies and faulty reasoning, including the fallacy of composition and hasty generalization. Where the article really shines, though, is in its use of ad hominem.

You couldn't ask for a better example of the ad hominem logical fallacy. Not only does the author start out swinging, he maintains his level of vitriol throughout. The crowning achievement, though, is the article's conclusion:

Several people have challenged me with regard to my efforts to expose Gundersen as having strong personal and financial motives to attack his former industry. They have told me that it is not fair to focus on the messenger; they say I should focus on countering his assertions instead.

My response is to remind people that it is often far more effective to aim at the archer than to aim at the arrows.

The article's author, Rod Adams, sidesteps his inability to address Gunderson's assertions, acknowledges his ad hominem attack, and, stunningly, concludes by praising the ad hominem attack as if it were a legitimate refutation of any of Gunderson's claims.

I am embarrassed both for the article's author and for anyone who takes the it seriously. Nevertheless, it has done some good, as it has prompted me to donate one hundred dollars to Fairewinds Associates.

 

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