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Should We Kill The Politicians Before They Kill Us?

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Should We Kill The Politicians Before They Kill Us?

“The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.” William Shakespeare, Henry the Sixth

That was four hundred years ago, long before lawyers would come to hold most elected offices. 41% of the current congress are lawyers, six times the rate of the general population. The greatest concentration of lawyers is in Washington, D.C., and that is turning out to be a very bad thing.

This could well be the most sinister article I have ever written. We are sitting ducks. Easy prey. We are naive and easy to manipulate.

Groggy and sloggy on high fructose corn syrup. Corpulent and congested by pink slime beef and other toxins marketed as food, we ain’t gonna put up much of a fight.

Even if we could, they are ready and waiting for us. With their LRAD noise cannons, drones, armored vehicles, chemical weapons, Active Denial Systems and all of the right stuff to start offing citizens in large numbers.

To illustrate, I found this in Top 10 Future Law Enforcement Technologies by Amy Miller. As you read this, remember that this was three years ago.

“Has a chicken breast ever gone into a microwave oven without an absolute massacre being the end result? The ADS system (Active Denial System) aims to do the same thing to pesky rioters, high risk threats, and otherwise heavily shielded and protected targets.

High frequency targeted microwaves are projected at an offender sparking a reaction in the water carrying molecules and fatty tissues, causing the target to heat up from the inside out. Immediately, the target is unable to continue in the same fashion as before, they are in immense pain, and too uncomfortable to continue as a threat. It provides a biological reaction in the body, incapacitating the target and rendering them effectively useless for a longer period of time than other non-lethal methods.”

Non-lethal? Maybe, but the first degree burns it produces make it the modern day equivalent of pouring burning oil on them. Does hell have a special place for people who think this stuff up? A chicken breast in a microwave? That’s all we are to them.

I guess the Occupy movement is cooked.

But wait, there’s more…..

Homeland Security just bought 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition. That is not a typo—450 million rounds. That is enough to shoot every American 1.5 times. These, we are told, are to protect us from a very large, well organized threat for which no plausible evidence exists.

Further, due to the destructive force of the expansion of the bullet, hollow-points are prohibited in international warfare, so they can only be used on us.

There are just us and them…and a few Middle Eastern crazies, straight from central casting, that they trot out from time to time to try to make us believe that all of this is for our own good.

The truth is that the only well-armed organized terrorists preparing to come into our communities will be sent by our politicians. If this is how they plan to handle unemployment and poverty domestically, it is hard to envision a time when any sort of even modest global accord could be achieved. Peace on earth? Yeah, good luck with that.

Meanwhile, they’ve been fine tuning the Constitution more to their liking by eliminating the first, fourth, fifth, and fourteenth amendments with the argument that times have changed and surely our founding fathers would want us to bring this quaint, pre-terrorism list of suggestions up to date.

I think that the only thing our founding fathers might have wanted is for us to have fought harder. Now it might be too late.

On New Year’s Eve, while nobody was looking, the president signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act, which for the first time in American history, makes legal the practice of apprehending and detaining, without writ or warrant, any American citizen, indefinitely, without trial.

It is based on a relatively new concept in law that all that is needed is the mere suspicion that an individual is thinking about breaking the law in order to arrest and detain them. I recently heard a government official defend it by asking the rhetorical question, “Well, if we think a crime is about to be committed, you would want us to prevent it?”

Never mind the Constitution, the presumption of innocence, or the right to due process.

As more and more Americans are discovering, if you try to stand up against the system in even a civil matter, you can wind up being jailed.

Except for a handful of brave judges, the vast majority of the judiciary has sold out. They, too, go on to great paying jobs with the law firms they favor in their rulings.

So, if one of those 450 million DHS hollow points doesn’t find you, than you might be one of those intended for a FEMA camp or a jail cell.

Meet the prison industrial complex; possibly the greatest single benefactor of our trumped up war of terror. Just ask Wells Fargo, a major investor. They know a sure thing when they see it.

Politicians keep telling us that crime is down, so who are they putting in all these prisons?

In 1980, there were two hundred and twenty people incarcerated for every hundred thousand Americans; by 2010, the number had more than tripled, to seven hundred and thirty-one. No other country even approaches that. In the past two decades, the money that states spend on prisons has risen at six times the rate of spending on higher education.

Remember the old saying, “You get what you pay for”? The education a child gets determines their fate. If we spend way more on prisons than we do on education, the results are predictable and the results speak for themselves. We are “Prison Nation”.

The US has 5% of the world’s population and 25% of the worlds incarcerated. Either we are some seriously bad-ass, mother-fuckers or something is very, very wrong. Ironically, the US also has 66% of the world’s lawyers serving 5% of the world’s population. I’m not sure what that suggests.

The prison business approaches a community desperate for jobs and commerce, and offers to build and operate a prison with local resources; but, there’s just one little catch—the community has to keep the prison full.

Recently, Corrections Corporation of America offered to buy and operate existing state prisons. Their offer requires the states to guarantee 90 percent occupancy.

Now, anyone and everyone is a potential customer for the local gray bar motel.

Within the last year, four different people I know were arrested and jailed while appearing in court on civil matters—not criminal, but civil.

Last year 40,000 new laws were passed in the US. Can you list them all? See how ridiculous it is becoming? That’s what you get when you have two thirds of the world’s lawyers.

FEMA camps, for real or paranoid lunatic nonsense?

All that I can verify is that the “emergency camps” have been put out to contractors for bid.

On February 24, 2012, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) posted the final draft solicitation for what they are calling a National Responder Support Camp (NRSC).

You can read it for yourself. My general impression is that particulars of the camps, as defined in the request for bid, are intended to have two separate groups residing at the camps for a long period of time. Ten percent of the group will live in additional secured quarters and receive better amenities than the other ninety percent of residents.

That scenario would suggest more of a prison environment than a short-term aid facility operated by members of the community. The camps would need to be operational in 72 hours. Though the request for bids suggest staffing with local labor, it concedes that under such short notice, local residents might not be able to respond so staff would be brought from other areas. They’ll be the ones in the crisp, brown shirts.

The locations of the camps have already been picked. Awesome! It appears that our ever forward-looking leaders already know where the next big disasters will be. Comforting, very comforting.

Meanwhile, a devastating disaster is already upon us and no one is responding to that.

For people who lost their homes to crooked banking schemes or a natural disaster, the result is the same.

This, despite the fact we spend a fortune on Governments who do little more than act as a conduit for the syphoning off of middle class prosperity.

They submit a budget, and then they overspend it.

Given unrestricted ability to do whatever they want without any interference from citizens or fiscal restraints you would think they must be doing a great job for us, but exactly the opposite is the case.

They suck. They are absolutely terrible at what they do. There must be a requirement to work in the government that you have absolutely no common sense whatsoever.

Take a look.

In the years since 9/11, we have learned that the attacks might have been prevented if US “intelligence” agencies had shared information.

Experts had issued urgent warnings about the levees protecting New Orleans years before Katrina.

The very name Katrina has become synonomous with “cluster-fuck”, because of the incompetence of FEMA’s response, and the fact that little has improved in New Orleans since.

The occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan have been grim reminders of why we should not go to war.

Marked by general implementation failures by U.S. agencies and evidence of massive corruption, Iraq and Afghanistan will be this generations Vietnam, right down to the lingering social costs including drug abuse and homelessness.

Military procurement systems are, according to retired military leaders, so broken that they now jeopardize national security. According to them, the U.S. is buying armaments that are overpriced, unneeded, and technically defective.

What about the economy? How has lowering taxes and eliminating or failing to enforce regulations benefited the economy? Well, the rich got way richer and the middle class got wiped out.

Let’s take a moment to evaluate and grade the performance of some important agencies.

  1. 1. The Government Services Administration, GSA

Since they are currently in the news, I thought why not start with them. The GSA is an important agency because it is the procurement arm for the entire Federal Government except the military. They buy stuff; lots of stuff. Everything you could imagine and some stuff you couldn’t.

Obviously, there is a potential for relationships to develop between vendors and buyers. Budda-bing, budda-bang, budda-boom, if you get my drift.

Why, heck, if you didn’t have the right people in this agency they could be buying $900 toilet seats, taking kickbacks, and wasting the tax payer’s money on themselves in a manor so lavish and arrogant that it would create corruption in all directions.

So, when news surfaced of the GSAs Caligula like event in Vegas, it struck me as rather ironic that these are the people responsible for booking all government travel, so this goes to the very core of what they do.

GSA Grade: F

  1. 2. The Food and Drug Administration, FDA

When it comes to public health and safety, no agency is more vital than the agency responsible for protecting Americans from the potential dangers of bad drugs and poisonous food. Everyone eats food, and in this country, almost everyone takes prescribed medication.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) found that contaminated food products are so common that Americans suffer 76 million illnesses, 325,000 hospitalizations, and 5000 deaths every year. That frightening number means that one of every four Americans will suffer a food-related illness in the next 12 months.

Do not put that in your mouth. Salmonella in the sushi, E-coli in the chicken, pink slime beef.

The agency did not require any testing of Genetically Modified Organisms GMOs before approving their sale to the American public.

Irradiation is now a common method of extending shelf-life. It destroys a large proportion of the nutrients in food, a problem that is compounded as food sits out its increased shelf-life. Cooking escalates the problem further still. The end result is empty-calorie food that could actually increase nutritional deficiencies. No wonder everybody is fat and hungry.

So much for the food, what about the drugs?

Vioxx, Bextra, Baycol, Zellnorm and 27 other drugs have been withdrawn since 1980 due to serious, often fatal side effects.

The abuse of prescription medication is America’s largest and among the most costly of our health problems.

FDA Grade: FF

  1. 3. The Environmental Protection Agency, EPA

Don’t drink the water and don’t breathe the air. The medications are now showing up in ever increasing quantities in our drinking water.

On April 8th, the EPA rejected a petition to ban the sale of the 2,4-D pesticide, a major ingredient in the Vietnam-era defoliant 'Agent Orange'. Dow Chemical, is hoping to receive approval to sell genetically modified corn seeds that will dramatically increase the usage of 2,4-D.

In defending its decision, the EPA pointed to a study conducted by Dow. That’s good enough for me.

The Center for Food Safety said this, "This novel corn will foster resistant weeds that require more toxic pesticides to kill, followed by more resistance and more pesticides - a chemical arms race in which the only winners are pesticide/biotechnology firms."

So who is right? We need look no further than Monsanto’s GMO corn which is experiencing massive crop failures and developing mutated and resistant insects as a result of its widespread usage. Innocuous as this may seem, it is irrefutable evidence of the potential for worldwide crop failure if we keep tinkering with Mother Nature.

Meanwhile the FDA has become the primary foe of organic growers and natural food co-ops.

And, you were worried about Al Qaeda.

EPA Grade: FFF

  1. 4. Agencies Policing the Financial Services Industry

There are a host of agencies policing the financial services industry including, but not limited to, the SEC, the OCC, the FTC, the IRS, the FBI and the DOJ.

Under their watchful eyes, banks morphed into global money sucking machines that vacuumed up every dollar they could while all of the above stood around and said “duh.”

Not a single one of them sought to find out why Credit Default Swaps had soared from nearly zero in 2000 to an estimated $60 trillion in 2008, or how Derivatives, investments that have no value of their own, could grow to six times the value of everything on the planet.

SEC, FBI and all the financial watchdog agencies are the Mr. Magoos of law enforcement.

Grade: FFFF

  1. 5. The Department of Health and Human Services 

Our system for financing the costly federal health care system subsidizes the overuse of advanced technologies while underfinancing highly effective and lower-cost public health measures. Here again, the results speak for themselves.

More money per person is spent on health care in the USA than in any other nation in the world, and a greater percentage of total income is spent on health care in the USA than in any United Nations member except for East Timor. Is there a West Timor?

Yet, The Commonwealth Fund ranked the United States last in the quality of health care among similar countries. The USA is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage.

The U.S. Census Bureau reported that a record 50.7 million Americans—16.7% of the population—were uninsured in 2009.

The consequences are real. We are 48th in life expectancy, below most developed nations and some developing nations. The World Health Organization (WHO) ranked the U.S. health care system as the highest in cost, 37th in overall performance, and 72nd by overall level of health among 191 member nations included in the study.

A 2009 Harvard study estimated that 44,800 excess deaths occurred annually due to lack of health insurance.

Fifty percent of all bankruptcies are due to medical expenses.

Department of Health and Human Services: Grade: FFFFF

  1. 6. Department of Energy

Some of the most profitable of all corrupt activities involve energy. Remember Dick Cheney’s secret energy meetings? Those led directly to electricity deregulation scams, corporate welfare for energy producers, fracking, the BP oil spill, gas pipeline explosions, high gas prices, faulty nuclear reactors, and an unreliable grid.

  1. 7. Department of Housing and Urban Development

One word…Detroit.

More and more American cities are starting to look like Detroit.

This is what our money bought. Our infrastructure is in desperate condition. Roads, bridges, rail, water, sewage systems, and many dams are in dangerous disrepair around the country. Large sections of New Orleans remain wrecked and highly vulnerable.

The DOJ sells guns to Mexican drug cartels, and launders their money while aggressively pursuing the cartels competition.

What we have today is what they want us to have. So, we get prisons, not schools. We get war, not peace. We get poverty, not prosperity. We get genetically modified organisms, not food. We get wealth for a few and misery for the masses. We get oppression, not freedom. Who did it? The politicians.

You can’t vote them out because they are fungible, and the system itself prohibits most honest candidates from competing for funds. Podunk mayor and council races generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign spending for jobs that pay $12,000 a year.

Money now owns the system at every level.

It really is too late for voting. We still must vote or we send the message that we just don’t care at all, but that won’t change anything.

We have seen the enemy and we see them arming for a fight and a post-fight occupation.

Maybe you read the tea leaves differently. Maybe you think they have good intentions but really poor execution.

I read 450 million hollow points for Homeland use, an explosion of prison populations, a corrupted court system and poison everywhere as a potential threat to my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

When they see you as a chicken breast, you know your vote matters little and your life even less.

George W. Mantor
The Real Estate Professor
Founder, American Foreclosure Resistance Movement
http://www.realtown.com/gwmantor/blog

www.4closureFraud.org

 


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Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:45 | Link to Comment riphowardkatz
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"Groggy and sloggy on high fructose corn syrup. Corpulent and congested by pink slime beef and other toxins marketed as food, we ain’t gonna put up much of a fight.  "

WRONG 

The problem is not food it is opportunity cost. The  people that have the ability and reason to stop this have f'ing jobs they have to be productive and in an inflating monetary regime they have to work more and more and more just to keep up.  

 

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:42 | Link to Comment chunga
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If we could get that question on the ballot....

...voter turnout would be epic.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 19:50 | Link to Comment One World Mafia
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Yeah but the results would be rigged to say we love them.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:04 | Link to Comment chunga
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LOL!

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:33 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Has a lot of common sense to it.

And, from then on, we draw a guy's name out of a hat and tell him it's his duty to serve.

If he really wants the job, he's disqualified, and anyone attempting to build a new Private National Bank gets shot.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:16 | Link to Comment ArmchairRevolut...
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Schools teach how effective peaceful protest is. They teach that Ghandi overcame British rule in India. I have been thinking that this is false; that the purpose of teaching this is to control the populace. The teaching goes something like this: everyone has a right to peaceful protest; therefore, there is no need for violent protest. Those who act in violent manner are just wrong. This is engrained in the populace. So why was it OK for colonies to revolt against Great Britain, but now when it is clear that we have an out of control government that it is just wrong?

I won't be the one to lead the charge in violent opposition. If it comes to that, i will probably leave the country. However, I won't look down at the men who do.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 23:57 | Link to Comment valkyrie99
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I've had the same thoughts myself. When the system is this far gone you could very well be right. Certainly the way we usually protest, when the few of us that get out there do, isn't effective.

However, I believe history is the best template of which to base any study of society, including everything from economics to revolutionary tactics. There is evidence indicating many violent revolutions that have been less effective then peaceful ones. 

Here's a study I found very interesting: 

http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/isec.2008.33.1.7

The authors take over 300 major violent and non-violent campaigns from 1900-2006 and compair sucesses. "Our findings show that major nonviolent campaigns have achieved success 53 percent of the time, compared with 26 percent for violent resistance campaigns. There are two reasons for this success. First, a campaign’s commitment to nonviolent methods enhances its domestic and international legitimacy and encourages more broad-based participation in the resistance, which translates into increased pressure being brought to bear on the target. Recognition of the challenge group’s grievances can translate into greater internal and external support for that group and alienation of the target regime, undermining the regime’s main sources of political, economic, and even military power."

- a few well placed bullets from insiders with access can accomplish more then ten thousand men ready to fight or die.

"Second, whereas governments easily justify violent counterattacks against armed insurgents, regime violence against nonviolent movements is more likely to backfire against the regime. "

- this is often how mass support starts in once appathetic populations. 

I'm still not sure you're not right, but if the public sees peaceful activists microwaved first it could be more effective. I guess I've thought about this a lot -

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 04:04 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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Echoing Val's prescient logic.

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 03:16 | Link to Comment New World Chaos
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Ditto.  Let them make the first move in the eyes of the sheeple.  Don't start anything until they start dragging people off to the camps.  Self-defense is fine but no offense for now.  We'll get more logistical support and less narcing from the sheeple, we will have more cops and military on our side, and it will be harder for the elites to rewrite history afterwards.  Even better if patriots can hold their wad until the cops and bureaucrats and sheeple-benefits are paid in worthless dollars. 

There are warning signs that a country is "ripe" for revolution.  The most obvious is a surge in political violence and assassinations.  It's not happening.  Probably needs to ramp up for almost a year before the show starts.  So, for now: stock up, educate, plan, scope out local assholes, and try not to get caught in the first roundup.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 19:05 | Link to Comment CoolBeans
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We can't all just leave.  But - if you plan to (I've thought hard on this - and it isn't still out of the question) go SOON or in a well-timed manner - as they'll seal up the borders when the SHTF.

I think this theory was interesting about the "FEMA Camps" that said they were formulated from the idea (supposedly) that the U.S. might have its borders rushed (by, uh Mexico? China?) and they'd need a place to put prisioners.

Hah - well, now we have the Mexicans leaving in droves.  So, hmmmm....

Zombie Apacolyse.   Arm/ammo up. 

I didn't go to "camp" as a kid and I'm not going in as an adult.

 

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 21:51 | Link to Comment GFKjunior
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The only people who can leave the US with a clear conscious are those with families of small children. The rest of us have a duty here.

Everyone is scared for their life but violent overthrows are necessary. My grandparents were ETA "terrorists", other Texan-mexican ancestors fought in the civil war, I still have second cousins who are in the EZLN. I come from a long line of revolutionaries so I fear nothing except living in a world where I ran away. When the time comes I can only pray other ZH's will be by my side with ar's and balaclavas. Living in an oppressive fascist state is not worth living at all.

 

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:31 | Link to Comment Clint Liquor
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

Edmund Burke

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Blotsky
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I agree with Edmund Burke's quote, but who will be the one to stand up?

 

Its easy to say that I would, but when the rubber meets the road, the outlook seems to change.

 

Furthermore, the "good men", us, have done nothing, and this, right here and now, is where we are because of it.

 

I dont have an answer, and I refuse to condemn, but I think its a bit late. 450 million 40. caliber hollow point rounds is a bit much for me to argue with.

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 00:34 | Link to Comment lasvegaspersona
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I have seen this 450 million rounds of .40 cal for a few weeks, anyone got a source?

It is a pistol round. Say 1000 rounds per gun times 405,000 guns...not making sense.

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 00:09 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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Yeah its for real, when that came out I tracked it back to the site but didnt keep the link. If you look around long enough on fbo.gov you can probably find it.

.40 is for bullshit weapons, I didnt care about that enough to save but the contract for all the .223 is definitely worrisome-

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=140e263e1c4b2654e61adf022688eb5d

Click on the instructions to offerors on the right, 33 mill per year for the current and 4 option years.

 

 

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 01:20 | Link to Comment CompassionateFascist
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The ZOG Gestapo is not buying the ammo primarily for use. It's to keep us from getting it. Pre-emptive purchasing. But we are way, way ahead of them.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:40 | Link to Comment forexskin
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Furthermore, the "good men", us, have done nothing, and this, right here and now, is where we are because of it. I dont have an answer, and I refuse to condemn, but I think its a bit late. 450 million 40. caliber hollow point rounds is a bit much for me to argue with.

ha, my friend and yours just bought many billion! (there are at least 200MM arms in private hands here - so what's that make in ammo?)

you read it here first!

(don't panic, its just we have a sub lethal infection of good natured optimism and surfeit of patience - for now.)

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 19:13 | Link to Comment CoolBeans
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Well, I think that it will start with seemingly "isolated" incidences where people are picked up and thrown in cells for civil disobedience.  It will then grow more widespread as conditions in the U.S. worsen.  Alternatively, conditions will be so awful that people will be "FEMA'd" for their own safety (food, water in the camps, etc.).

Did anyone also happen to notice that FEMA ordered bullet-proof guard stations?  Great - so checkpoints, too, huh?  Have your "papers" readys, friends.

Who knows?

However - I believe if you take the number of current gun holders across the U.S. and their gun/ammo stores and you match 'em up against the FEMA folks - We win.  They know this - which is why Obummer and his minions are working hard to throw out the second amendment. 

While I realize the police are being militarized - at some point our officers are going to hopefully disregard unlawful orders (ethically), I hope, and put their energies toward keeping their families safe vs. coming after the rest of us.

I don't know what will happen.  I always say the heart will lie but the gut never will -- and my gut has felt for a long time that something unfortunate is going to happen and it may be just around the corner.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 21:50 | Link to Comment laughing_swordfish
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The key event to look for will be a "requirement" to have "identity" papers (beyond a mere photo ID) to travel between states, board an airliner or bus (with a MUCH MORE INTRUSIVE TSA "inspection"), rent a house or apartment, get a hotel room, rent a car, etc.

Another will be a requirement to "register" with the "authorities" when you move to a different city or town (this is already the norm in much of the EU, BTW) and you won't receive a residence "permit" unless you can show proof of employment, funds, receipts for taxes paid, etc...

Can you say "Geben sie mir Ihren papieren bitte?"

 

Krvtkpt Laughing Swordfish

DKM Trading

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Westcoastliberal
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That's coming with VIPR which is already pulling vehicles over on I-40 in TN, and DHS recently ordered 10,000 bulletproof checkpoint enclosures:

http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/05/dhs-purchases-bullet-resistant-checkpo...

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 19:45 | Link to Comment XitSam
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You may want to read Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Bracken.

 

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:17 | Link to Comment CH1
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America is OVER.

Anyone who thinks that the current collection of ruling parasite thugs has anything to do with Tom Jefferson is trying very hard to defend their ignorance.

It is time NOW to start building better ways of living; not talking about it, but DOING it. 

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Red Heeler
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"We still must vote or we send the message that we just don’t care at all, but that won’t change anything."

Wrong. If they held an election and no one showed up it would scare the living hell out of them. But since that ain't gonna happen . . . . shoot the bastards!

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:31 | Link to Comment forexskin
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soap box - fail?

ballot box - fail?

jury box - fail?

dirt nap box - no?

cartridge box ;)

 

 

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:13 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Yes.

Also time to investigate expatriation options.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 19:15 | Link to Comment CoolBeans
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True that - but what country will allow me to ship in my gun and ammo collection?  I'm worried about staying but concerned about leaving and being stuck somewhere unfamiliar with no way to protect my family.  I shall have to do more and more research. 

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 10:51 | Link to Comment etresoi
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There is a rifle in most Swiss homes... given to the man of the house by the government.

 

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 00:22 | Link to Comment lasvegaspersona
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cool beans

lots like you

how to find one another if the time comes? and how to know who to trust...

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:32 | Link to Comment NewWorldOrange
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A difficult task. Most any nation in the world will only allow you to stay briefly without a residence permit, which can be hard to get unless you have family there, and/or skills in high demand there. Every nation now requires you get a "Police Letter of Good Conduct" from the FBI and you have to be fingerprinted while still in the U.S. to get that. That's a problem for many. Your best bet could be just going somewhere you can blend in and stay under the radar, like Canada. Canada won't let you in if you have so much as a DUI on your record, BTW. Pretty much the only nation that even runs such a check for an American tourist, though it's easy to sneak in. There are a few other options. Belize will let you stay up to 30 days. But if you renew your permit while there just before the 30 days expires, they'll give you another 30 so long as you can prove you have funds to cover another 30 days and have an onward ticket or enough to also buy a ticket home. I've renewed with them four times in a row and it never raised an eyebrow, and met people who've stayed there for years doing that. Belize is really awesome and cheap, and relatively low crime/good personal safety for your family. Might consider buying a boat and living aboard there. A decent used 30 foot sailing yacht can be bad for about $1000 there. You can stay 90 days in Costa Rica, then walk into Nicaragua or Panama for 15 days, then return. So long as you have the funds. A problem can arise if your passport expires or gets close, unless the local American consulate will allow you to renew there (don't have any overdue taxes.) Most any other nation doesn't like to repeatedly renew your permission to stay and will make you leave for a good while before you can return. Another option, if you can afford it long term, would be to have a seaworthy yacht ($30k or less could set you up pretty well) and bounce around the Caribbean - Antigua and Barbuda, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Vincent, etc, and just move about, staying in each for 90 days at a time (180 days in St. Vincent, 8 months in the Bahamas if yachting.) The Caribbean is really expensive though and crime is growing fast and in a world gone even more nuts that could get pretty bad and it could be problematic having to trust all those customs/port authority folks. There is not a single uninhabited island on the planet with a fresh water sourse BTW. There are a few where you could probably dig a freshwater well though. This is very problematic for myriad reasons but is easily reseached online. BTW there are a hell of a lot of $9 a night hostels in Costa Rica. I recently spent almost a year there (went to Panama every 3 months for 72 hours - now it's 15 days) and then retunned. No hassles at all. Stayed in hostels most of that time, and rented a room from a family part of the time (awesome thing to do - you learn all kinds of stuff, make needed contacts, have a kitchen, access to their transportation maybe, learn Spanish easily). There is a very large American community in Costa Rica, crime is low, prices are soaring, climate is awesome. You cannot legally work in any nation without  permisssion, which is really hard to get unless you have certain skills, and they'll burn you alive if they catch you. That includes entrepreneurial stuff like yacht repairs for others, for example. I don't spend a lot of time in the States but when I get tired of the bullshit and TSA etc, Costa Rica is an easy choice for me. Did I mention the women there are awesome? BTW, trading online (or writing or whatever) is not considered employment and is not a problem.

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 10:58 | Link to Comment etresoi
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"Every nation now requires you get a "Police Letter of Good Conduct" from the FBI and you have to be fingerprinted while still in the U.S. to get that."  This a a popular myth.  I have had this demand for my French, Togolese and Nigerian and my Swiss citizenship.  In all cases, I protested by saying that I was a political refugee from a totalitarian govermnent and it was not in my beneficial interest to return to the US.  Further, I stated that I was innocent until proven guilty and refused to participate in any society that felt otherwise.  Worked perfectly in all instances.

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 06:57 | Link to Comment RafterManFMJ
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Read through your wall of text, and thanks for it, nice post.

 

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:39 | Link to Comment NewWorldOrange
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one last note...

If you want or have to stay in America but are expecting food shortages, mass violence, and don't have a lot of money, you can buy a nice liveaboard on the North Carolina's Pamlico sound for about $5k or less. Lots of liveaboard marinas that charge slip fees of about $7 a foot per month plus electric. Plenty of water and tons of all kinds of fish. The population density is very low, the demegraphic is right, and it's far from any big cities. Any would-be gangs of thugs trying to come in from the cities would be slaughtered by a lot of angry country folks with guns long before they got there probably. Some of the marinas are out on penninsulas and isolated. If necessary for safety you could set afloat and there are thousands of desolate inlets you could wind your way up into and hide for long periods unnoticed. Okay, so there's that.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Clueless Economist
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I'm interested....but why are you giving away your secrets?

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 21:04 | Link to Comment NewWorldOrange
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I'll be going to CR soon for the long haul. Own land there and soon to have a residence permit. CR is no secret. Neither is much of the rest. I've pretty much done everything in those posts except live on a deserted island, though I've anchored off a few for long periods and spent lots of time on the island. A blast but hard to sustain long term.

I tried to add this to that last part but the edit wouldn't take:

In the marina, you'd be in a tight knit community of like minded people. It's not hard to find a "boat sitting" job out there where someone lets you live on their boat free just to watch it and do some maintenance, if they're hardly ever there. Common. It's pretty easy to make a nice little cash income too if you're willing and able to do handy work in the marina on the boats, repair rigging, engines, electronics, PCs, etc.

For now though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM&ob=av2e

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 21:05 | Link to Comment Clueless Economist
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let me guess, i won't be seeing treyvon with hoodie skittles and iced tea walking through the marina?

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 21:27 | Link to Comment NewWorldOrange
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Heh. Highly unlikely. I'm a part-time writer BTW (articles on boating and travel mostly) and blogging about this stuff is a great "muse" especially if people respond with questions, corrections, related points, thoughts/ideas etc. Lots of people here interested in and knowledgeable about survival and alternatives like these so I very much welcome any comments and will try to answer any qustion if I even can but I realize it's getting late on a Friday so...

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 22:58 | Link to Comment forexskin
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your comments today *almost* make up for your trolling / stalking yesterday

jus sayin

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:11 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Today?

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Chartist
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What is this, a rhetorical question?  Darwin would say, absofuckinglutely.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 17:58 | Link to Comment Sweet Chicken
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Yes.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 17:08 | Link to Comment XitSam
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Yes. Next question.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:28 | Link to Comment forexskin
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i've really come to appreciate articles like this - just that warm all over fuzzy feeling...

another shot?

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Clueless Economist
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This country does not have the stomach to kill politicians. Some congresswoman in Arizona, directly involved in the policies that are destroying our country, gets shot in the head by some nutjob.  Instead of approval, there is a deep and fervent outpouring of grief!!!!!   This person who has had a direct hand in the destruction of our country is lamented?  Crazy country we live in. 

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 06:20 | Link to Comment Colonial Intent
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Which politician are you going to shoot in the head mr nujob Economist?

All talk no action, go back to cuddling your gun and thinking you'll have a chance when SHTF........

Its much easeier for you to shout abuse from the sidelines rather than get hurt playing the game, isnt that right my clinically obese, gun, house and car owner.

 

"This person who has had a direct hand in the destruction of our country"

Your laziness was a bigger factor......

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 04:30 | Link to Comment Uber Vandal
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Suppose a puppet said and suggested horrible things, and could even sign legislation into law.

Did the puppet actually do that, or the person operating/controlling the puppet?

Suppose the puppet is removed from the puppet show (impeached / voted out) because it really got on everyone's nerves.  

Did the puppeteer change?

No; so why waste time focusing on the puppet?

Perhaps time would be better spent following the strings (money), and find who is in control of the puppets, and keep following the string up line until the source is reached, for even a puppeteer has a script to follow.

 

 

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 21:49 | Link to Comment baldski
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Clueless: Who are you shilling for ? Karl Rove or David Koch or Roger Ailes?

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 05:59 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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oh come on.  that congresswoman was pretty damn far down the pecking order.  had it been the head of a too big to fail bank or the head of the dea or the supreme court chief justice, the reaction would have been more conflicted imo.  

but your larger point may well be right.  we are still a "nicer" (lazier? more fearful?) people than our leaders.  they can bankrupt, kill and jail us (without trial, appeal, sympathy or regret) but we cannot, as yet, oppose them effectively, it seems.

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