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Ron Paul Is Going to the Republican National Convention, and – Believe It Or Not – It’s Still Possible for Paul to Win

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On Wednesday, the Washington Post tallied Ron Paul’s gains in various states:

At Massachusetts’ state convention less than half of Romney’s 27 chosen delegates won tickets to Tampa. Paul supporters were chosen instead. While all of the state’s delegates are committed to vote for Romney, the delegates get to decide on the party chairman, platform, and VP nominee. …Paul supporters are a majority in the Iowa GOP’s State Central Committee, and he’s set to claim a majority of the state’s delegates despite finishing third in the caucuses.

 

They dominated the caucuses in Louisiana, carrying four out of six congressional districts with a tie in a fifth. That means 74 percent of the state’s convention delegates will be Paul backers.

 

In Minnesota, Paul won 20 of 24 delegates allocated at congressional district conventions, and he’s expected to take more at the statewide convention.

Huffington Post notes:

Paul can be nominated from the floor in Tampa by a plurality of five state delegations

The Des Moines Register reports:

Several Paul loyalists said they harbor hope for getting Paul nominated at the national convention in Tampa in late August.

 

In order to do that, Paul must have a majority of support from at least five state delegations. With states like North Dakota, Minnesota and others on track, his supporters could then attempt to nominate him from the floor.

 

Iowa’s 28 delegates are all “unbound,” meaning they can individually decide which presidential candidate to support. To stop Paul supporters from controlling the Iowa delegation, Romney backers in Iowa said they will likely focus on teaming up with Christian conservatives here.

To stop Paul supporters, mainstream Republicans are playing dirty. For example, the Republican National Committee has warned that it may refuse to allow the entire delegation for Nevada to be seated at the national convention for fear that Ron Paul supporters have taken control of the state.

Paul is not backing down.

 


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Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:39 | Link to Comment Mpizzie
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I'm sorry, but reading your posts - you're mildly amusing, but majorly stupid.  If you know what's being discussed in elite backrooms, and you are such an anit-elitist, post some names, expose some people.  Tell us all who said it, when they said it, etc.

You can't - no one on this board can, which is why 99% of the time, the posts are basically paranoid, super-hero end of the world ego driven maserbation and nothing else.   For 2 years, you and everyone else on here are predicting assasinations, deaths, financial collapse, calamity, and so on.

Never happens - there are no black swans, the 'elite' who you don't even know if they exist don't whisper in back rooms.

The only backroom whispering is you going, 'Shit' when you hear your mom coming toward your room and you have to Alt-Tab the porn away while you pull your pants up.

 

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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I junked ya because you were just beggin' for it.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 19:53 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Seems like a waste of a double post, eh?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:40 | Link to Comment Mpizzie
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double - post - sorry.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 00:45 | Link to Comment The Heart
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Yes sir Mr Jim,

You bet he can and will!

Today's conventions were more fun than a day long football game while enjoying it all from the winners side.

Go Truth!

 

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:34 | Link to Comment HK
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Would you like to take this a step further?  Scary thought, but Jeb BUSH for president?

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2076/640/Kissinger_Promises_China..._Jeb_...

 

 

 

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:08 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Don't kid yourself that this is merely about the presidential nomination.

"the delegates get to decide on the party chairman, platform, and VP nominee"

And the convention will be filled with Ron Paul signs and Ron Paul supporters.  All on primetime TV and Ron's delegates will be free to react to whatever they hear and see.

And Ron gets nominated which means nomination speechs from Ron supporters and then and a prime time TV speech from Ron.  Let's see if the MSM has the cojones to black him out.

The Republican party had better understand clearly, if Ron Paul is mistreated, their party is toast in 2012.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Fred Hayek
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Yup. All the scummy, corrupt Orren Hatch's of the GOP who go crying to NPR, fricking NPR!, at the fact that some tea party elements of the party don't like that they're scummy and corrupt, will just have to live with it. As Jim Demint said, the conversation in the GOP had better be between conservative and libertarian positions.

The Orren Hatch, "Gee, Teddy's my pal, what's it matter if I screw over 300 million people with a fascistic extension of government power if it makes a nice salute to my pal", ideology is not going anywhere. Like Orren, it's nearly dead.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:31 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Unless Orren Hatch and his ilk want permanent minority status, they'd better wise up.  They have a couple months to do it.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 01:21 | Link to Comment logically possible
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Orin Hatch has a long track record of wasting our tax dollars, its a little too late in the game to change now.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:05 | Link to Comment Captnkirk
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don't forget Harding won

 

 

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:52 | Link to Comment Lost Wages
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Paul followers are as delusional in 2012 as Obama followers were in 2008. Obama followers believed things could change. The only way Ron Paul is going to become the Republican Presidential candidate is if there is an anti-authoritarian riot at the convention. Who the RNC wants, the RNC gets... and it sure as fuck ain't Paul.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:01 | Link to Comment malalingua
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Stop being so docile and gullible! Get your head out of the gutter man! Ron Paul is the "Champion of the Constitution" this is an intellectual revolution so you can wait until there is the "Emotiional based on Opinions" Revolution until then move out of the way because the winds of change are here!

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 05:48 | Link to Comment Money 4 Nothing
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Prove it..

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:08 | Link to Comment malalingua
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Prove what? If you're getting the news off the idiot box then you'll see the Revolution won't be televised but if you get your news from the internet you'll know Ron Paul is gaining delegates. You probably don't even know what CISPA stands for either, right?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 02:26 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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You don't get it. It's not about Ron Paul...it's about the fucking Republican Party.

Running for that nomination instead of 3rd party knee-capped the "intellectual" angle in Iowa.

Man are you gonna feel silly when he throws his delegates behind Mittens in order to get Rand some duckets for his next run.

 

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:52 | Link to Comment worbsid
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From Reno:  Nevada delegation selection is in session now and it looks like there are more Paul reps than Romney's. 

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 00:41 | Link to Comment bigkahuna
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Good. At least Nevada knows we need to run a real candidate to win. Both of the big (TBTF) parties need this.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:49 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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Of course he can win.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:00 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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Well it looks like Robomney won't win so why not RP.... GOP Threw 2012 Election to Obama

 

 

http://libertarianreview.us/2012/05/04/gop-threw-2012-election-to-obama-in-2009-multi-billion-dollar-ponzi-scheme-involving-romney-and-son/

 

7 Reasons why his electability is a myth

 

http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/7-reasons-why-mitt-romneys-electability-is-a-myth/

7 Reasons Why Mitt Romney’s Electability Is A Myth

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 00:40 | Link to Comment Xkwisetly Paneful
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Uh yea it is MUCH, MUCH bigger!

The Americans will put down their krispy kremes, lattes, turn off the plasmas and lift their obese asses off the sofas to take to the streets.

Afterall I read it 412,234 times a day on zerobrains.com that this is inevitable.

Who cares you people are never, ever right about anything at all?

This will happen, it is so, so very big and watch out for those plants!

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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While I dont want Paul to win as he would just get scapegoated, Romney is going to get his ass kicked.  The Libertarian right wont vote for him and a fair percentage of the social conservative right wont either.  His main support is in the large northern leftist states where he cant win anyway, and really who gives a damn what a New England repub thinks about anything- they are as poltically irrelevant as Progressives in Alabama.

And if this site is never right, I certainly hope you cranked up your 401K contribution and took out a 2nd mortgage to buy more stocks with. You should make a mint.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:36 | Link to Comment SilverSavant
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Paul could win?  There is a tiny chance, which is better than none.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 02:20 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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The nomination? Sure, he's only one meteor vs private plane incident from the podium.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:34 | Link to Comment bugs_
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don't jinx him dude

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:25 | Link to Comment LasVegasDave
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you are the perfect fade, GW

and sadly, here too, you are still......

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:19 | Link to Comment stopthejunk1
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Abe Lincoln was 3rd in delegates nationally when he went to his party's convention.  We all know what happened that year. 

Those that understand our complicated electoral politics know that this is no joke.  Plenty of people know that Romney is no different than Obama on anything important, so you never know.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:13 | Link to Comment AmCockerSpaniel
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What percent of the voters read our S... here? Thats the reason the contry is going to get four more years of the same. We are the product of a consolidated media.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 01:44 | Link to Comment CompassionateFascist
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Yes, U do know. RP is alive today because he hasn't the slightest chance at getting the nomination. If, at some point, that chance had existed...he'd have been flat-lined by the ZOG. He should have gone 3P and finished off the useless Republicrats. But the party oligarchs threatened to derail his son's political express if he did so, so that too went by the wayside. Pathetic.  

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 02:19 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Not the first time he's carried water...certainly not the last either.

Don't kiss it, Frodo!

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 00:00 | Link to Comment LowProfile
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DIAF

Slowly.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment The Watchman
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I'm a fan. Voted for him in the primary. But it aint gonna happen. No matter how much I'd like it to. Up is up and down is down. Gravity is gravity. TPTB will never let it happen.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 20:54 | Link to Comment donsluck
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Get off your pedestal, this aint physics, it's POLITICS.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 20:25 | Link to Comment bank guy in Brussels
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So it's 'possible Ron Paul could win', ha! .... I had a good Banzai laugh over this article title.

Some of my friends in the Netherlands want some of what's being smoked here ...

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 20:52 | Link to Comment donsluck
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Hey Bank Guy, RP promises to legalize, citing the obvious huge cost in lives and money prosecuting the drug war. The Netherlands is going the other way, which will gut their tourist industry.

Who knows, maybe we'll invite you over...

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 05:08 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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In Belgium we got a word for it: independent nominéeeeeeee!
3 rd party candidate!
America is ready for it!

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:12 | Link to Comment vast-dom
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i feel like i just watched a cheap dirty porn -- who are these FOX presenters? zombie-corspe bride and some z-grade gay porn "actor".

 

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 02:17 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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The earrings are really antenna with which she receives Murdoch's dark commands.

 

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 00:37 | Link to Comment bigkahuna
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Lets go RP! The only true statesman with the courage to run.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:51 | Link to Comment your neighbor
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Streaming of NV state convention

 

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nevadaconvention
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:38 | Link to Comment MurderNeverWasLove
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22 of 27 delegates, with Romney supporters as alternates, mostly.  Top in each race become delegates, 2nd place is alternate.  And those at-large delegates +13 are alternates.  Ties were broken by breaking decks and picking cards, high card wins, ace low.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:14 | Link to Comment CrazyCooter
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I was a delegate to the Alaska state convention and blogged some details here, including some background on how sitting senators got "censured" by the convention dinner (actively booed, RP chanting, and general mayhem):

http://allthefederales.blogspot.com/2012/04/i-was-on-vacation-for-week-and-half.html

Bottom line: *conservatives* are pissed off, Romney isn't really loved by a lot of people, and the establishment fucked up by trying to foist him on the conservative voter base. In the committee that I participated in, virtually everyone present was in agreement on a range of issues (we added a lot of planks, citations of the US/State constitution, etc).

I want to repeat this: my committee was in broad agreement on a lot of issues, to the point I was sort of shocked. The divide and conquor strategy is failing and all hell is breaking loose ...

RP has a real shot at this, but it will be on the back of a broad mutiny. Expect to see serious hard ball as the establishment tries to hold onto power at the local, state, and and national level (read: the worker bees, chairs, and professional politicos).

Don't think it can happen? See these two posters:

http://www.historyshots.com/Parties/index.cfm

http://www.historyshots.com/Parties2/index.cfm

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 20:00 | Link to Comment ButIfNot
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I am a national delegate from Minnesota.  I listened to the district chair boast about how he had reassuered the central committee that NO Paul delegates would get through CD8.  They had their slate and there was no way.  Then one of the candidates for national delegate on their slate got removed because they gave him special treatment when he missed the deadline with the nominating committee -- after I told the convention that they wouldn't make an exception for me due to a previously scheduled surgery which I had to reschedule to meet with the nominating committee on their ONLY day to do interviews.  In the sweetest of ironies, TPTB threw their support to me, thinking I was safe -- only to pick their jaws off the floor when I admitted after adjournment that I was one of the RP slate nominees.  Nothing like watching cheaters lose by their own rules....

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 19:22 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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Yes, the establishment (read MONEY or better put the 1%) want a centrist for several reasons, pliability so to easily manipulate them, electability, and the MONEY does not much care what party the winner is registered with as long as they are going to take orders like a good little politician.  The people though as just demonstrated in the EU have had enough of business as usual, though they can't make up their minds between left and right the bottom line is no matter what the politics of the center are damned good and dead for now. 

Of course in America the MONEY wins every time, and because of our political setup friction between the left and right no matter how extreme either is will only result in nothing getting done, good for the top 1%, bad for the bottom 99%. 

I wish it were possible for a maverick like Paul who is beholden to no MONEY interests to win no matter how far left or right they are, but again it just is not and will not be until several things change.  We would have to end gerrymandering and "safe" seats in congress (term limits of two terms for any elected federal office?).  We would have to end MONEY in politics by having 50 state primaries by secret ballot all on the same day to chose which persons will be on the ballot no more than 90 days from the general election in the fall, and if nobody gets a plurality we will hold a runoff one week later between the two top vote getters.  We would have to end campaign contributions in excess of say $500 and make TV and newspaper coverage equal and free.  We would have to ditch the electoral college.  He with the most votes wins.  We would get rid of electronic ballots, tricky butterfly ballots, any inconsistency in balloting.  We would have a clear and exact set of rules that were universal in all 50 states as to what constitutes a ballot and what does not. 

None of that benefits the MONEY in this nation, so it will not ever get done, people bitch about money a lot but they also love it better than their own kids and will do what it says no matter what.

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