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if Murdoch is stitched-up (like Conrad Black) by the rotten Bilderburg rats then that's pretty much 'it' for an independant Press, he's the last one left (except for ZH of course)
24/7 non-stop rot from their establishment media and regards the web they'll nobble or shutter anyone that doesn't tow the party propaganda line
Murdoch has given airtime to guests who argue for free markets and guys like Glen Beck and The Judge in a sea of socialist garbage and media corruption the likes of which we've never seen before.. his demise would be the End of Days for the media far as i'm concerned
Banzai, Bumma is going to (have to) run on social(ist) issues ...the vacuous jingoism of 'fairness' and gay rights and any other desperate social cause he can cook up
simply because Bummas record is one of total and complete economic failure (the biggest spending leftie loon in history with zippo to show for it). He cannot run on his record or any credible platform because the guy/puppet is a sad joke (it's a leftie genetic trait)
cue a colossal Bumma the Clown circus of social fluff to skew the debate off his abismal record and way off into idealistic empty LaLa Land
While I cannot disagree with your analysis, Mittens will be no different.
Nope...more of the same
Complete economic failure indeed. Failure of the entire system.
The only nonsense the candidates can argue about freely is what is being served up.
They could never argue about the issues Ron Paul thinks we should argue about. Things like gay marriage and birth control are irrelevant to TPTB.
Tantables are harder to distort than intangeables. Numbers have meaning, words and concepts are open to discussion.
I would like to ask each person running for office how many millions are in a billion and how many billions are in a trillion and see what they say.
I'd also like to ask if it is possible to see Russia from Fairbanks.
Tina Fey thought she could see Russia from Wasilla, or Fairbanks, or from someplace in Alaska. Tina Fey probably couldn't find Alaska on a map - of Alaska. She can, however, see Commies from California. All she has to do is look at her co-stars.
Let's see, we had the Bush card, the race card, the medical care card, the 'Get Out of Jail Free' card(s), and now the gay card. Sounds like someone's not playing with a full deck...but it doesn't stop them from trying.
It is amazing how the crisis in Europe and now the issue of systemic risk in banking are being drowned by the same sex marriage issue.
It is a collaborative effort by both parties to distract everyone from the important issues.
We dont want to antagonize Jamie Dimon do we.
banzai i have lived in an apartment full of 'occupiers' who for a living solicit money and 'support' for the working families party of new york which is an offshoot of the socialist party led and started by a couple guys who have been in politics for a long time.
we have discussions every night and on the weekends about politics, the world etc.....
they're a well intentioned group of guys in their mid 20's. but i can tell you that they just don't accept the world the way it is. they are uninterested in forming a view of how the mechanisms of control in society truly work. they are of course happy and able to admit the banks are 'bad' actors. but they have no cohesive view of the financial control system over politics. yea sure, they will agree with slogans like 'get the money out of politics'. but they are not even INTERESTED in understanding how money works how markets work how commerce works how consupmption and productions work.
they see the world from the perspective of political forcing. to them, it's really not about learning about how the world actually works outside their bubble of politico speak, it's about persuading people to join their bubble based on wedge issues or big issues, or any means of persuasion available to them.
for example they have ZERO interest in understanding the energy market and how consumption and production of electricity work. they have zero clue in understanding how the govenrment finances itself with tobacco taxes.
and yet---they will wax on about forcing a fully government controlled green revolution for the masses---some half baked plan to greenify everything without regard to how electricity is ACTUALLY produced----while smoking ciggarettes that fund the new york city government with tax revenue to help the mayor (bloomberg) they claim is the devil.
To me, I don't see some of their desires or hypocrisies as 'bad' . i am actually acutely aware that 'progress' is often generated by caring people who are a patchwork of motivations and hypocrisies. and while i personally love these guys and they are fun. they dont' inspire me with confidence. maybe they are not representative of the real planners and intelligensia of leftists politics. perhaps they are just the foot soldiers who argumentatively demand global peace . but from my experience the occupy movement seems to be rife with young people in their 20's who are of this general amorphously disorganized mindset. a lot of these people arent quite that serious in their approach. they are mostly driven by emotions and seemingly captive to whoever would pay them to proseletyze, if anyone.
and YES they all think Obama is great for coming out for gay marraige. they very much do support his re-election because he's much less bad than repuclicans and romney. this is their mentality. they are fully under the veil of distraction and do not even realize it. when I tried explaining to them last week that NO ONE was at liberty park with signs about jpmorgan. and that the jpmorgan failure was like a steak being handed to them on a silver platter that they should sieze the opportunity to make this an issue. they just didnt get it.
my impression from these die hard guys......occupy is just another half toasted group that is waiting for 'their day in politics'. they are co-opted in many ways by the democrats. they know it, they don't care. and while they will criticize the democrats, they just see them as center left, rather than a functionally necessary part of the axis.
Occupy is a tired brand as far as I'm concerned. It's become an umbrella for the kitchen sink. They caught the first wave and did a good job last fall. Time to regroup and look for another wave.
Having said that, I do not agree with the people who think they are a menace to society that need to be batoned, gassed and jailed.
The menace to society is not down on the street, it's up in the glass towers.
interesting insights, thanks for taking the time. i remember in my younger days the same kind of insular but well intentioned idealism. how things worked was unimportant, because how things *should* work was the only justified area of interest.
i think that's the attraction of marxism to so many people that don't want to dirty their hands with the way things *are*. the easily accessible ideal is right there, ready to go - no need to get down in the mud with the rest of us. they stay blameless, idealistic, unintentioned, and ultimately clueless.
and ripe for manipulation.
Yes, and look how things have turned out. Our peers laughed at us behind our backs at our efforts to end Vietman and racism while they joined Young American's for Freedom and invested in Oil, arms, airplanes and planned how to disrupt peaceful gatherings so to discredit.
You all want to have a laugh. Google the plaques that hang over the doors of the entrances to the US Senate and House chambers. Guess those Congressional menbers can't see up that high or can't read.
You beat me to it, forex, though you're more eloquent than I would likely be. The one thing I'd add to your thoughts is that the kids going through the academic system often find it difficult to think thier positions through to the logical endgame because they are deliberately crippled by thier teachers in the ability to think critically.
oh please!!!!
Look where the damn books are printed and published...TEXAS! Listen to where the instruction on HOW to teach comes from...WASHINGTON.
You, sir, are an idiot or right-wing investor in Charter schools if you think it is the teachers who are the problem.
When you have some time to spare, go on over to youtube and put the following name in the search box.
Charlotte Iserbyt
You will find segments of an interview she gave some time ago. (Not sure how long) She was Reagan's secretary of Education until she quit in disgust. It's eye opening, unless you're a left-wing knee jerk reactionary trying to get people to believe teachers are mindless drones who regurgitate whatever is printed in the textbook.
Do yourself a favor and forget the football team cheerleader approach to politics, and actually use that grey matter between your ears. Left - right is a false dichotomy, and only morons with no argument immediately resort to personal invective.
"but i can tell you that they just don't accept the world the way it is"
sums it up rather nicely
It is amazing how the crisis in Europe and now the issue of systemic risk in banking are being drowned by the same sex marriage issue...
Same as it always is. The church and state always battle for the merchant class. The church through moral authority and the state supplanting it by recognizing legal rights over religious sacraments. The king would do it and declare marriage and rights to bear children only to men duly licensed to marry.
The antogonism is not new. It's just clothed in current terminlogy.
imo.
I tend to watch Brian Williams and the NBC Nightly Snooze just so I can keep in verbal shape yelling at the MSM. I must admit that Pudsey, the dancing dog, was some of his best work: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/ns/NBCNightlyNews/#47421019
An Obama head on top of the dog and maybe Dimon or Corzine's head on top of Ashley's bod.
Don't let Obama near Pudsey, especially if he (Obama) is hungry.
the same argument is getting played out in most western democracies.
whatever obama says is considered to be newsworthy in other countries, and the leaders of those countries are expected to respond to his comments. as soon as he comes out saying gay marriage is ok by me, then everyone else is pressed to make a comment. then there are religious arguments, etc etc
There is a bigger wake up call here than meets the eye. 14% of the 'legal' voters in North Carolina CHANGED the State Constitution. So what you say? What is next? Who is next? Cna 14 people out of 100 be a new majority? Where does THAT leave YOU?
AND, what is even more disturbing to me is this. Amendments to a State or National Constitution is to GRAND and ENSURE RIGHTS. These amendmentas that have been passed in, what 30 odd states, have removed and deprived rights. And NOT just gay rights but yours too.
So you can junk away all you folks who think that you know your bible, but I will remind you the the word of GOD was upon 10 stone tablets and upon those stone tablets there is no such commandment. Everything else is the word of man rewritten for mans purpose. Had the King James Bible been written with the words 'slavery is an abomination against GOD", there NEVER would have been slavery in England or America. The writers of the Kings Bible delibertly left it out so there COULD BE SLAVERY. So, what else has been modified for your pleasure?
You are totally clueless about the US Constitution, and probably about many state constitutions. They are NOT about granting (I assume that's what you meant when you used GRAND) rights. The former was written to set up a national government with limited powers, and the Bill of Rights was added to reinforce the idea of limited powers. Read Amendment 1, which beings "Congress shall pass no law...".The rights mentioned in the Constitution are inherent, and the Constitution merely mentions them when indicating they should not be trampled upon by the government. Read the Second Amendment, which says that the (preexisting) right to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged. It does NOT grant the right.
Some state constitutions, I'll admit, do proclaim 'rights'. Rights should never be 'granted', however, when doing so removes certain rights from others. Such 'rights' should be called something else, like 'entitlements'. The 'right' to a free education requires, for instance, relieving others of their property via taxation. The taxpayer has lost the right to his money to provide someone else with a free education. It can go to extremes. Florida, for instance, in 2002 resoundingly approved a ballot initiative to extend constitutional protection to pregnant pigs, the 'right' to a decently sized enclosure. Pig farmers, of course, lost some of their property rights, but to a Liberal that is beside the point.
As for your ignorant comments about the Bible, I'll limit myself to saying that the 10 Commandments given to Moses constitute the law of God but are not the entire word of God. It seems that you are one of those to whom the word of God is foolishness.