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Bipartisan Congressional Bill Would Authorize the Use of Propaganda On Americans Living Inside America

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Because Banning Propaganda “Ties the Hands of America’s Diplomatic Officials, Military, and Others by Inhibiting Our Ability to Effectively Communicate In a Credible Way”

Michael Hastings reports:

An amendment that would legalize the use of propaganda on American audiences is being inserted into the latest defense authorization bill....

 

The amendment would “strike the current ban on domestic dissemination” of propaganda material produced by the State Department and the Pentagon, according to the summary of the law at the House Rules Committee's official website.

 

The tweak to the bill would essentially neutralize two previous acts—the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act in 1987—that had been passed to protect U.S. audiences from our own government’s misinformation campaigns.

 

The bi-partisan amendment is sponsored by Rep. Mac Thornberry from Texas and Rep. Adam Smith from Washington State.

 

In a little noticed press release earlier in the week — buried beneath the other high-profile issues in the $642 billion defense bill, including indefinite detention and a prohibition on gay marriage at military installations — Thornberry warned that in the Internet age, the current law “ties the hands of America’s diplomatic officials, military, and others by inhibiting our ability to effectively communicate in a credible way.”

 

The bill's supporters say the informational material used overseas to influence foreign audiences is too good to not use at home, and that new techniques are needed to help fight Al-Qaeda, a borderless enemy whose own propaganda reaches Americans online.

 

Critics of the bill say there are ways to keep America safe without turning the massive information operations apparatus within the federal government against American citizens.

 

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“I just don’t want to see something this significant – whatever the pros and cons – go through without anyone noticing,” “ says one source on the Hill, who is disturbed by the law. According to this source, the law would allow "U.S. propaganda intended to influence foreign audiences to be used on the domestic population."

 

The new law would give sweeping powers to the State Department and Pentagon to push television, radio, newspaper, and social media onto the U.S. public. “It removes the protection for Americans,” says a Pentagon official who is concerned about the law. “It removes oversight from the people who want to put out this information. There are no checks and balances. No one knows if the information is accurate, partially accurate, or entirely false.”

 

According to this official, “senior public affairs” officers within the Department of Defense want to “get rid” of Smith-Mundt and other restrictions because it prevents information activities designed to prop up unpopular policies—like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

Critics of the bill point out that there was rigorous debate when Smith Mundt passed, and the fact that this is so “under the radar,” as the Pentagon official puts it, is troubling.

 

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The evaporation of Smith-Mundt and other provisions to safeguard U.S. citizens against government propaganda campaigns is part of a larger trend within the diplomatic and military establishment.

 

In December, the Pentagon used software to monitor the Twitter debate over Bradley Manning’s pre-trial hearing; another program being developed by the Pentagon would design software to create “sock puppets” on social media outlets; and, last year, General William Caldwell, deployed an information operations team under his command that had been trained in psychological operations to influence visiting American politicians to Kabul.

 

The upshot, at times, is the Department of Defense using the same tools on U.S. citizens as on a hostile, foreign, population.

 

A U.S. Army whistleblower, Lieutenant Col. Daniel Davis, noted recently in his scathing 84-page unclassified report on Afghanistan that there remains a strong desire within the defense establishment “to enable Public Affairs officers to influence American public opinion when they deem it necessary to "protect a key friendly center of gravity, to wit US national will," he wrote, quoting a well-regarded general.

 

The defense bill passed the House Friday afternoon.

Juan Cole notes:

Nothing speaks more urgently to the creeping fascism of American politics than the assertion by our representatives, who apparently have never read a book on Germany in the 1930s-1940s or on the Soviet Union in the Stalin period, that forbidding DoD and the State Department from subjecting us to government propaganda “ties the hands of America’s diplomatic officials, military, and others by inhibiting our ability to effectively communicate in a credible way.” And mind you, they want to use our own money to wash our brains!

 

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Of course, having a Pentagon propaganda unit at all is highly anti-democratic. The best defense of the truth is a free press. It should also be remembered that nowadays everything in Washington is outsourced, so government propaganda is often being turned over to Booz Allen or the American Enterprise Institute ....

 

Doing propaganda abroad has the difficulty that it doesn’t stay abroad. False articles placed in the Arabic press in Iraq were translated into English by wire services, who got stung.

 

Then, another problem is that the Defense Intelligence Agency analysts *also* read the false articles placed in the Arabic press by *another* Pentagon office, which they did not know about. So the analysts were passing up to the White House false information provided by their own colleagues!

Mediaite points out:

The military has been trying to find new avenues for spread U.S. propaganda on social media websites for a while now. A 2011 Wired piece details how the Department of Defense has been working on ways to monitor and engage in “countermessaging” on social media sites like Twitter.

Government Has Been Illegally Using Propaganda for Decades

Of course - even though it is currently illegal - the government has already been using propaganda against U.S. audiences for decades.   Government agencies - including both the Department of Defense and other agencies - are actively manipulating social media for propaganda purposes, to crush dissent (and see this), to help the too big to fail businesses compete against smaller businesses (and here), and to promote viewpoints which have nothing to do with keeping us safe.

For example:

  • The New York Times discusses in a matter-of-fact way the use of mainstream writers by the CIA to spread messages
  • A 4-part BBC documentary called the “Century of the Self” shows that an American – Freud’s nephew, Edward Bernays – created the modern field of manipulation of public perceptions, and the U.S. government has extensively used his techniques
  • The Independent discusses allegations of American propaganda
  • And one of the premier writers on journalism says the U.S. has used widespread propaganda

We noted in 2009:

The U.S. government long ago announced its intention to “fight the net”.

As revealed by an official Pentagon report signed by Rumsfeld called “Information Operations Roadmap”:

The roadmap [contains an] acknowledgement that
information put out as part of the military’s psychological
operations, or Psyops, is finding its way onto the computer and
television screens of ordinary Americans.

“Information intended for foreign audiences, including public
diplomacy and Psyops, is increasingly consumed by our domestic
audience,” it reads.

“Psyops messages will often be replayed by the news media for much
larger audiences, including the American public,” it goes on.

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“Strategy should be based on the premise that the Department [of
Defense] will ‘fight the net’ as it would an enemy weapons system”.

Indeed, the Pentagon publicly announced years ago that it was considering using “black propaganda” – in other words, knowing lies.

 

CENTCOM announced in 2008 that a team of employees would be “[engaging] bloggers who are posting inaccurate or untrue information, as well as bloggers who are posting incomplete information.”

 

The Air Force is now also engaging bloggers. Indeed, an Air Force spokesman said:

“We obviously have many more concerns regarding cyberspace than a typical Social Media user,” Capt. Faggard says. “I am concerned with how insurgents or potential enemies can use Social Media to their advantage. It’s our role to provide a clear and accurate, completely truthful and transparent picture for any audience.”

In other words, the government is targeting “social media”, including popular user-ranked news sites.

 

In addition, when you look at what the Israeli lobby has done with Megaphone software to automatically vote stories questioning Israel down and to send pro-Israel letters to politicians and media (see this, this and this), you can start to see how the U.S. military – an even larger and better-funded organization – could substantially influence voting on social news sites with very little effort.

 

Moreover, the military has outsourced many projects to private contractors. For example, in Iraq, much of the fighting has been outsourced to Blackwater. And governmental intelligence functions have largely been outsourced to private companies.

 

It is therefore not impossible that the government is hiring cheap labor to downvote stories on the social media sites which question the government, and to post pro-government comments.

Raw Story reported last year that the Air Force ordered software to manage army of sock puppets:

Internet users would be well advised to ask another question entirely: Are my “friends” even real people?In the continuing saga of data security firm HBGary, a new caveat has come to light: not only did they plot to help destroy secrets outlet WikiLeaks and discredit progressive bloggers, they also crafted detailed proposals for software that manages online “personas,” allowing a single human to assume the identities of as many fake people as they’d like.

 

The revelation was among those contained in the company’s emails, which were dumped onto bittorrent networks after hackers with cyber protest group “Anonymous” broke into their systems.

 

In another document unearthed by “Anonymous,” one of HBGary’s employees also mentioned gaming geolocation services to make it appear as though selected fake persons were at actual events.

 

“There are a variety of social media tricks we can use to add a level of realness to all fictitious personas,” it said.

 

Government involvement

 

Eerie as that may be, more perplexing, however, is a federal contract from the 6th Contracting Squadron at MacDill Air Force Base, located south of Tampa, Florida, that solicits providers of “persona management software.”

 

While there are certainly legitimate applications for such software, such as managing multiple “official” social media accounts from a single input, the more nefarious potential is clear.

 

Unfortunately, the Air Force’s contract description doesn’t help dispel their suspicions either. As the text explains, the software would require licenses for 50 users with 10 personas each, for a total of 500. These personas would have to be “replete with background , history, supporting details, and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographacilly consistent.”

 

It continues, noting the need for secure virtual private networks that randomize the operator’s Internet protocol (IP) address, making it impossible to detect that it’s a single person orchestrating all these posts. Another entry calls for static IP address management for each persona, making it appear as though each fake person was consistently accessing from the same computer each time.

 

The contract also sought methods to anonymously establish virtual private servers with private hosting firms in specific geographic locations. This would allow that server’s “geosite” to be integrated with their social media profiles, effectively gaming geolocation services.

 

The Air Force added that the “place of performance” for the contract would be at MacDill Air Force Base, along with Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad. The contract was offered on June 22, 2010.

 

It was not clear exactly what the Air Force was doing with this software, or even if it had been procured.

 

Manufacturing consent

 

Though many questions remain about how the military would apply such technology, the reasonable fear should be perfectly clear. “Persona management software” can be used to manipulate public opinion on key information, such as news reports. An unlimited number of virtual “people” could be marshaled by only a few real individuals, empowering them to create the illusion of consensus.

 

***

 

That’s precisely what got DailyKos blogger Happy Rockefeller in a snit: the potential for military-run armies of fake people manipulating and, in some cases, even manufacturing the appearance of public opinion.

 

“I don’t know about you, but it matters to me what fellow progressives think,” the blogger wrote. “I consider all views. And if there appears to be a consensus that some reporter isn’t credible, for example, or some candidate for congress in another state can’t be trusted, I won’t base my entire judgment on it, but it carries some weight.

 

“That’s me. I believe there are many people though who will base their judgment on rumors and mob attacks. And for those people, a fake mob can be really effective.”

 

***

 

“Team Themis” [tasked by the Chamber of Commerce to come up with strategies for responding to progressive bloggers and others] also included a proposal to use malware hacks against progressive organizations, and the submission of fake documents in an effort to discredit established groups.

 

HBGary was also behind a plot by Bank of America to destroy WikiLeaks’ technology platform, other emails revealed. The company was humiliated by members of “Anonymous” after CEO Aaron Barr bragged that he’d “infiltrated” the group.

And see this, this, this, this.

Wired reported last year:

The Pentagon is looking to build a tool to sniff out social media propaganda campaigns and spit some counter-spin right back at it.

 

On Thursday, Defense Department extreme technology arm Darpa unveiled its Social Media in Strategic Communication (SMISC) program. It’s an attempt to get better at both detecting and conducting propaganda campaigns on social media. SMISC has two goals. First, the program needs to help the military better understand what’s going on in social media in real time — particularly in areas where troops are deployed. Second, Darpa wants SMISC to help the military play the social media propaganda game itself.

 

This is more than just checking the trending topics on Twitter. The Defense Department wants to deeply grok social media dynamics. So SMISC algorithms will be aimed at discovering and tracking the “formation, development and spread of ideas and concepts (memes)” on social media, according to Darpa’s announcement.

 

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SMISC needs to be able to seek out “persuasion campaign structures and influence operations” developing across the social sphere. SMISC is supposed to quickly flag rumors and emerging themes on social media, figure out who’s behind it and what. Moreover, Darpa wants SMISC to be able to actually figure out whether this is a random product of the hivemind or a propaganda operation by an adversary nation or group.

 

Of course, SMISC won’t be content to just to hang back and monitor social media trends in strategic locations. It’s about building a better spin machine for Uncle Sam, too. Once SMISC’s latches on to an influence operation being launched, it’s supposed to help out in “countermessaging.”

 

***

 

SMISC is yet another example of how the military is becoming very interested in what’s going on in the social media sphere.

Gene Howington writes that mainstream media - including NPR - have used propaganda on American audiences to shape the debate on numerous issues:

Consider the use of media outlets like NPR that made a public and conscious decision to refrain from reporting on “torture” – a word with extremely negative denotation and connotation – and instead choosing to use the euphemistic language “enhanced interrogation”. Everyone with a conscience thinks torture is a bad thing and torturers are ethically abhorrent people. It’s not only a Federal crime, cruel and unusual punishment is specifically barred by the 8th Amendment of the Constitution. The word choice here is designed to clearly shift public attitudes from “those guys need to be prosecuted as criminals” to “maybe they aren’t so bad after all”. NPR (aided by the Bush Administration no doubt)  chose words with a neutral/positive value load compared to the word “torture”.  Connotation plays to your emotional response over your rational response.  When the word choice becomes more subtle, the damage of connotations can be even more insidious. Compare:

  • war – limited police action
  • conquest – liberation
  • famine – widespread hunger
  • pestilence – outbreak
  • death – casualties

Indeed - in the ultimate Kafkaesque nightmare - the Pentagon recently used black propaganda to smear USA Today reporters who were investigating illegal Pentagon propaganda.

Virtually Everything Government Does Is Propaganda

It is a sad fact that virtually everything government does these days is propaganda.

For example, the government has tried to corral the American public into a certain view on the economy: One that says that the big banks are more or less healthy, that they must be saved at all costs, that we need not prosecute Wall Street fraud, and that an economic recovery is just around the corner.

Indeed, in response to virtually every problem, the government puts out spin covering up the severity of the crisis and pretending that the problem was "unexpected" and that it won't happen again ... so we can keep on doing the exact same thing. This is true in regards to the financial crisis, Wall Street fraud, nuclear accidents, oil spills, groundwater pollution and a host of other problems.

Indeed, it sometimes seem like the only thing the government does these days is to provide propaganda on behalf of special interests so they can make more money.

 

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Mon, 05/21/2012 - 23:32 | 2449682 Vic Vinegar
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Three weeks in on ZeroHedge and you have a lot of strong opinions.  Nothing wrong with that, but riddle me this:

For the most part, though, it takes far too much effort for the average 9 to 3 clock watching (their retirement clock) GS employee to learn all the memes and stay current with anonymous/internet culture. 

C'mon now.  Love 'em or hate 'em, GS employees work much harder than that.

Or did you not mean Goldman Sachs?  How should one read this?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 20:04 | 2449259 omniversling
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Now the power over your mind...without druggging. google bbc neuro linguistic propaganda, and silent sound spread spectrum eg:http://ppjg.me/2009/01/31/silent-sound-spread-spectrum-ssss-the-all-digi...

These technologies relegate 'print propaganda' to the bin. Truly the 'slime from the video'..

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 20:31 | 2449302 Reptil
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DA converters have filters on them to counter sampling artefacts (aliasing). The quality of the sound also depends on this (and other things).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist_theorem

We're not hearing those frequencies, but we (a percentage of human beings) do "feel" them. Possibly because of interfrequency modulation.

I'm sure the NSA, CIA or some other club have developed using neuro lingistic propaganda; auditive subliminal messages; it's right up their alley.

Anyway... a simple lowpass at 18 or 20 KHz would fix any of this high freq. BS in a playback system..

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 00:29 | 2449803 Vic Vinegar
Mon, 05/21/2012 - 19:25 | 2449155 Arnold
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You can watch it Yourself, and I have no stock or trade with them, but the nightly news on PBS by AL Jassir does a much better job of News presentation than the top 17 mainstream 'news' presentation shows.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 00:57 | 2449851 Vic Vinegar
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Arnie:

http://wtc7.net/

You're still a fruit

OMG

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 19:14 | 2449131 Arnold
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It's time to mention

Joseph Goebbels

again, There was only one of him, there are many more of him now.

Ah I really yearn for the simplicity of the Twentyith century. Except for the Frappachino part.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 00:56 | 2449849 Vic Vinegar
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Dear fruit roll-up

http://wtc7.net/

Thoughts?

Nah, never mind.  You never will. 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:46 | 2449087 Widowmaker
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Liberty or death.

You young pups better learn it and remember it well.

Incorporated money is sucking liberty dry.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 20:55 | 2449356 Psyman
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The few Americans that desire liberty are busy burying their life's savings in the ground in the backyard of their shitty wooden home on 2 acres of land in some undesirable part of America.  The few who choose to stand up and demand "liberty" are always destroyed, usually killed.

 

You are free to choose to have your home blown up by an aerial death drone.  This is a choice you can make.

 

Or you can stop paying your taxes and go to prison like so many before you.

 

Or you can crash your cessna into the IRS building, killing no one but yourself.

 

Or you can go pick a fight with the cops, and be shot to death.

 

Be my guest.  You talk a good game about "liberty or death", but I don't see many Americans lining up to be murdered by the fascist police state in order to make their political point.  American liberty is dead, gone from this fascist police state forever.  You can choose "death", but you'll never choose liberty by staying in the most high tech surveillance based police state in human history.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 14:01 | 2451716 SILVERGEDDON
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I choose my own course of activity for $500, Alex. Double jeopardy, dipshit. What a bunch of slanted horse shit you managed to throw up in a few short weeks. Back to DHS WITH YOUR SORRY ASS.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 06:24 | 2450177 Lednbrass
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I have little doubt that the "crappy" wooden house will outlast your McHome by a considerable margin, and the "undesirable" parts of America will also outlast your chic city chock full o' amusement.

God, what a snarky little urban faggot.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 00:13 | 2449767 AurorusBorealus
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The concept of "liberty" is irrelevant to Americans standing up against their fascist totalitarian state.  It all comes down to how long a debt-based fiat money system managed by central planners can keep the population fed, housed, clothed, and drunk, drugged, or amused enough not to revolt.   When the system breaks, the insurgency and counter-insurgency will commence.

The real question is: will those opposed to fascist totalitarianism win?  maybe if the battles are fought on St. Crispin's day.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 23:47 | 2449714 Vic Vinegar
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You talk a good game about "liberty or death", but I don't see many Americans lining up to be murdered by the fascist police state in order to make their political point.  American liberty is dead, gone from this fascist police state forever.  You can choose "death", but you'll never choose liberty by staying in the most high tech surveillance based police state in human history.

I also welcome your thoughts on "America's Got Talent".  While I'd rather you opine on Building 7, I'll settle for your favorite judge on AGT.  Either or.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 23:35 | 2449687 geoffb
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No doubt, do you think this is an actual person or a bot? Great speller though either way. :)

Sometimes I get those emails that tell little stories at the bottom to get past my filters. I read them sometimes too.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 21:49 | 2449487 SILVERGEDDON
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Robot Trader ! You're back ! Got a job with Homeland Security, I see. Nice disinformation troll shit.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 23:39 | 2449691 Vic Vinegar
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Reading this cat's quotes tonight noting "guys I know" and "sheesh" coupled with his white pride and hatred of jews, I'm hoping he's the lovechild of RobotTrader and trav7777. 

Don't tell me otherwise, spacemonkeys.  I want this to be so.  And I wanna adopt its babies.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 00:07 | 2449751 Psyman
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You're not good at this.  The people who do this for a living have:

 

1. web spiders crawling and recording all of the text on thousands of websites, including this one.

2. all of this data stored in databases

3. tools you've never heard of created by companies you've never heard of to ingest this data and find connections between seemingly disparate online aliases

4. the email addresses used to register my accounts, and my passwords for both ZH and those email accounts.  Check for collisions.

5. etc.

 

It would be child's play to ferret out my various accounts I've used here.  Good thing I'm nobody important.  Say it with me sheeple, "If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to fear."  Confess your sins to Big Brother and be absolved of them!

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 14:03 | 2451724 SILVERGEDDON
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OOOHHH, SCARY STUFF ! I'll bet your real name is the Sand Spider, because it sounds scary. Crawl back under your rock, lackey.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 00:36 | 2449813 Vic Vinegar
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Good thing you spoke of Big Brother as I'm looking forward to the new season.

Big Brother all-stars were a good idea...Jeff and Jordan, Brachel, etc. were good calls by Les Moonves.  But it's time to man-up and give us new blood.

That doesn't change this, no?

http://wtc7.net/

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 21:26 | 2449432 Widowmaker
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LOL!

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 02:32 | 2450003 Vic Vinegar
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Hulk Smash too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoQPR_lHL9k

Sorry, .gov - you fuked up.  No one believes your shit.  Try again.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:45 | 2449084 Squid Vicious
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let me guess: Lieberman and Schumer are co-sponsors of the bill?

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 02:34 | 2450008 Vic Vinegar
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9/11 was given to us by us.gov, but this song still rocks, no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 09:23 | 2450550 Revert_Back_to_...
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Katy Perry should pick some of the diva's from the 80's and do a cover album. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUAo6kMD3vg

or maybe..(ff to rap part)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRG0QOEkyM#t=1m50s

or?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3udbawA1Q

I think they had way better drugs available in the 80's.

 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:12 | 2449017 Sanksion
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That's why we pay taxes, to keep us safe, remember ? Say again : that is for your protection. Repeat until you believe it. 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:09 | 2449012 New_Meat
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GW-a fiver on ya. - Ned

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:16 | 2449032 Gully Foyle
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Yawn. Every nation uses propaganda on it's citizens. What the fuck do you think "spin" is?

Because many of you just don't pay attention you missed the CIA, publicly, being positioned in the control rooms of various media sources. You missed the various military agencies playing nice with film and tv as long as they are not demeaned. You missed various films and television shows demonizing the nation of the week.

Matter of fact the winners write History any way they choose. Always have always will.

So TPTB are merely making common practice obvious.

Wake me when  the Apocalypse arrives, or when something truly new and scary hits the scene.

This is just a bore and a snore.

 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 20:59 | 2449365 Psyman
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Yep.  Just the "news of the day" to rile up the sheeple.  I guess GW has to publish something, and he can't just publish, "all is lost, America is a fascist police state and there's no turning back" every week.  So every week he needs to dig up a new boogeyman.  Some "new threat" just on the horizon.

 

Meanwhile, this is the most yawn worthy "new law" I've ever heard of.  They've been outright propagandizing the American people for 100 years using the principles of mass psychology.

 

And, hey, I heard last week they might pass this new law that'll let the ISPs pass subscribe data onto the government.  Yea, they *definitely* couldn't do that before and haven't been doing it for 15 years.  But this NEW LAW is something to get worked up about!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 21:51 | 2449494 SILVERGEDDON
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Very good sheeple bait, dipstick. Smooth out the objections to 1984, why dontcha.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:56 | 2448979 apberusdisvet
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False flag cyber attack; kill switch turned on in 5...4...3...2

There:  fixed the problem for the fascists

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 02:38 | 2450032 Vic Vinegar
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No offense, buddy, but we've seen it a million times before here.

I totally call a false flag next week after next!

Why not enjoy until then?  

Seems like a rational idea, no?  Modern econ is not rational.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:39 | 2448940 Disenchanted
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"An amendment that would legalize the use of propaganda on American audiences is being inserted into the latest defense authorization bill"

 

So up until this passes, it's all been illegal propaganda?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:31 | 2448916 Beard of Zeus
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Given that the US "domestic population" is increasingly comprised of hostile foreigners, this was inevitable.

 

 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:30 | 2448912 nasa
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The Amerikan Sheeple are already plenty dumb, fat, and lazy,  how is using new and improved propaganda going to change anything?  

 

 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:24 | 2448904 GCT
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Well PSYOPS in the US is nothing new.  We have endured it for decades.  I guess some are waking up so they intend to make it legal.  I am glad to see some people realizing that the Dems and Repubs are basically the same.  They just spout different propaganda to satisfy their donors and voters.  Both parties will screw joe sixpack in a minute to get their way. 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:17 | 2448889 markar
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Fascinating how the Dems & Repubs can agree on passing all things  unconstitutional. These f__ers know something is coming down.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:06 | 2449006 lakecity55
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Yep, too many are figuring out there is only 1 party and we live in a version of Mussolini's Fascist Corporatism. The media like to use the words crony capitalism. It's  Fascism, Period.

Hitler may have died, but Fascism moved to the US and Britain in 1945.

Vote Libertarian or "other."

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:11 | 2448863 shovelhead
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Perez Hilton is really General Petraeus?

This IS serious.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 02:54 | 2450047 Vic Vinegar
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Totally. 

http://wtc7.net/

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:40 | 2448769 CPL
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When it passes, the Military will fracture into 20 pieces and all hell is going to break loose.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:36 | 2448755 Bollixed
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I had a feeling Million Dollar Bonus' posts were being funded by tax dollars, now I'm sure.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 00:01 | 2449738 Tapeworm
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No, MDB's posts have a bit of art about them on occasion. The worst of the goomint sucks don't bother here, but post on disparate sites, like cars and lowbrow places where natural libertarians congregate. The propaganda fecks are making big headway on sites where there are few that can bother with the time to combat them.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:50 | 2448737 metastar
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Bots!

Damn bots are everywhere!

Agent Smith was a damn government bot!

Hey, did a damn bot just thumbs down my post????

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 02:55 | 2450050 Vic Vinegar
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Well you do have a tired avatar as an ID. 

Hip tweens say the same about mine.  Yet one wonders...

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Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:23 | 2448714 BeetleBailey
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....all the more reason to stand up and confront these piss-ant politicians every chance one gets.

I do every chance I get. Get in their faces in these "town hall meetings". Problem is, too many of the sheeple are enamored with these so-called leaders. They "like" them akin to FaceBookFuck. Are "for them" (like the douchebag Marco Rubio, who has proven to be as ineffective as pissing out a forest fire, as an example).

The comments I read from the main piss-stream media sections are pathetic. Yammering on about Obama and how much good he has done. How he "saved" the auto industry.

Gotta hand it to the Progs and liberal douche-bags; done a hell of a job uneducating the masses. Of course, the Republicunts have also plundered and raped too.

Only if enough people start demanding real change, will anything get done. That, and burning down the banks en-mass, and chasing and field lynching all these douche-bag economists and government assholes.

Afraid we don't have the masses for that. Dumbed down, placated and mollified. Just the way this criminal government wants it.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:43 | 2448781 DosZap
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Get in their faces in these "town hall meetings".

Can't do that now,you will be arrested.

So, I ask "whats the point of Town Hall meetings if sheeple only get to listen to propaganda, but not to speak, disagree, or protest".

The beauty of so many of the OLD dogs voting for this shit, gives US perfect reasons to seek out NEW blood............and if we get the chance, this is exactly what we should do EVERYTIME.

ALL of my SO CALLED conservative GOP Senators, and House Rep,have voted FOR all this shit, and they have been there for decades.

Bloods n the water folks............end game.

 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 21:04 | 2449380 Psyman
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Asking uncomfortable questions or exposing uncomfortable facts during a town hall meeting sounds like a FORM OF PROTEST to me, and protesting anywhere near politicians is now illegal thanks to that recently passed law.  Protesting near a secret service protected diplomat IS A FELONY by law in the fascist states of America.

 

That teacher that old a student he could be arrested for criticising Obama wasn't lying.  In fact, that kid's entire family could be assassinated using an aerial death drone for daring to speak out against our glorious leader.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 14:06 | 2451737 SILVERGEDDON
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Ahhh, Christ on a crutch, just go die in a fire, or chase parked cars, why don'tchya.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 01:08 | 2449879 Vic Vinegar
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