U.S. Government Claims – Just Like the Nazis – that the Truth Is Too Complicated and Dangerous to Disclose to the Public

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In the classic history of Nazi Germany, They Thought They Were Free, Milton Mayer writes:

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.


"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.

Similarly, America has - little by little - gone from a nation of laws to a nation of powerful men making laws in secret.  Indeed, even Congress doesn't know half of what others are doing.

Secretive, unaccountable agencies are making life and death decisions which effect our most basic rights.  They provide "secret evidence"  to courts which cannot be checked ... and often withhold any such "evidence" even from the judges.  For example:

"I find myself stuck in a paradoxical situation in which I cannot solve a problem because of contradictory constraints and rules — a veritable Catch-22," the judge wrote. "I can find no way around the thicket of laws and precedents that effectively allow the Executive Branch of our Government to proclaim as perfectly lawful certain actions that seem on their face incompatible with our Constitution and laws, while keeping the reasons for their conclusion a secret."

The government uses "secret evidence" to spy on Americans, prosecute leaking or terrorism charges (even against U.S. soldiers) and even assassinate people.

And the government goes after whistleblowers ... and reporters who say too much (and see this).

U.S. government spokesmen pretend - just as the Nazis - that:

  • The situation is so complicated that the government has to act on information which the people could not understand
  • It is so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security

As FireDogLake notes:

Like the iron fist of the Nazis ... Americans must submit to “roving surveillance” and warrantless searches, without the requirement of a Judge’s authorization. Surveillance laws are part of a larger arsenal of weapons against political dissidents and whistle blowers.


Most Americans don’t know the Patriot Act authorizes secret charges relying on secret evidence and secret grand jury statements. Under the Patriot Act, Americans have no right to know who has accused them of what criminal activities, or the dates of the alleged offense.


They’re not even told what law was broken. The government has power to lock up Americans on military bases or other prisons without a hearing or trial. We can be detained indefinitely without any rights of due process at all.

All of this happened in Germany - as in America today - because the governments whipped up so much fear of attack by demonizing the enemy and declaring an open-ended war that people became complacent and stopped thinking for themselves.

As Mayer notes about Nazi Germany, people were too apathetic or scared to stand up for others:

Pastor Niemöller spoke for the thousands and thousands of men like me when he spoke (too modestly of himself) and said that, when the Nazis attacked the Communists, he was a little uneasy, but, after all, he was not a Communist, and so he did nothing; and then they attacked the Socialists, and he was a little uneasier, but, still, he was not a Socialist, and he did nothing; and then the schools, the press, the Jews, and so on, and he was always uneasier, but still he did nothing. And then they attacked the Church, and he was a Churchman, and he did something—but then it was too late."

The same is true in modern America.

Mayer points out:

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.




"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

The same is happening to Americans today.  Indeed, the American government appears to be following the Nazi playbook.  The U.S. government - like the SS - may label anyone who disagrees with government policy as crazy or a potential terrorist ... and is claiming more tyrannical powers that even Hitler claimed.

If you think we're exaggerating, just listen to what the prosecutors who convicted the Nazis of war crimes say ...

Benjamin Ferencz - a former chief prosecutor for the Nuremberg Trials against the Nazis - declared:

A prima facie case can be made that the United States is guilty of the supreme crime against humanity — that being an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation.

See this, this, and this.  In addition, he said:

[A Nuremberg defendant said that he didn't feel bad for killing children and other innocent people]  "because we relied on the head of state, Hitler. He had more information than I had, and he told us that the Soviets planned to attack, so it was necessary in presumed self-defense."




It's very disappointing to find that my government today is prepared to do something for which we hanged Germans as war criminals.

Another Nuremberg prosecutor, Henry King, Jr., said that the Guantanamo trials violate the Nuremberg principles and Geneva Convention.

Allowing medical experimentation on prisoners certainly violates the Nuremberg principles.   And leading constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley notes that the government is violating the Nuremberg principles by failing to punish those who created our recent policy of torture.

Note 1:  Fascism also happened in Nazi Germany because the taxpayers became responsible for the debts of big corporations, and the corporate sector and authoritarian government worked hand-in-glove.  The same is happening in the U.S. right now.

Note 2: For Dems who assume that things improved after Bush, please note that a former Obama security adviser says that Obama is as "ruthless and indifferent to rule of law" as Bush. And see this.

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Setarcos's picture

For those with more attention span than a gnat AND with an open and enquiring mind, I present:


Cult of Criminality's picture

Never underestimate your enemies and their resources.

hooligan2009's picture


should there be any federal secrets?

if the government collects information who does it belong to?

is the decision making undetaken by our government the best way to make the decisions?

is there a point where 435 + 100 + 1 simply cannot make rational decisions because society is too complex for them to handle?

what else could we do? devolve taxes to more manageable blocks of 3 million that look after themselves and pay <10% for "super" projects?

would the people make better decisions themselves if they had the federal secrets?

could the people better govern themselves so that 435 + 100 + 1 are removed from their lives?

Peter Pan's picture

I am impressed by the depth of the comments posted by fellow ZH bloggers. However, it appears that talking about it is all we are capable of.

So the question is, what if anything, should we be doing? Or a we going to say to our offspring one day "we could've, would've, should've" and then go back to flipping channels.

Setarcos's picture

If there was something that could have been done, then it would have been done.

For 35 years - half of my life-time - I've been strongly influenced by Socrates' dictums of, "Know Thyself",  "The unexamined life is not worth living" and "To thine own self be true".

I use Socrates name backwards, because he provided me with a 'rear view mirror', or the means to obtain one ... thus I know where I came from, what shaped me and what is coming at me in all likelihood; most simply just on account of old age, though it's more complex.

So too what is coming at everyone, whether old or young, during the decline (old age) of the current global form of civilization which, like the highly symbolic Titanic, is bound to fail ... and there is nothing anyone can do about it, because the course was set by the Industrial Revolution over two hundred years ago, or pick your poison going back millenia, e.g. Ancient Athens, where Socrates/Plato fully described the same patterns that prevail today in politics and generally.

Clearly nothing can be done, but at least a 'rear view mirror', e.g. knowledge of history, tells you what to expect and there can be some comfort in that.

Actually Billy Joel put it rather well:

billy joel we didn't start the fire:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR-A4QFHZBA

bunnyswanson's picture

I hope you do not mind if suggestions are made by just anyone.  If not, then I'd suggest this be taken care of a local levels.  Begin attending community meetings, meet with your neighborhood at church or taverns, golf courses.  Open up dialoguefind out what is going on, who is who. 


4 excellent videos which explain this on the strangest site of all.  I hope this is just my wild imagination but for a second thought a hit list was found. 

DemocratsAgainstAgenda21.com (the real democrats are here along with flyers and event dates, contact numbers and latest news).  Rosa Koire has been to Canada to speak there as well.  Things are happening no one is aware of until it is too late (rezoning agreements).

There are groups locally in place for TP members, libertarians, republicans and democrats Against Agenda 21.  Rosa will speak if you invite her to a town meeting or one could show the videos at a house party.  I think "communitarianism" is a front for an inventory.  The representatives elected at a local level sometimes don't understand what they are doing but just need the funds being offered (which are binding even if Agenda 21 is not).  Politicians are paid to representative their constituents.  I'd check the redistricting measures in your locale, See which lobby groups are supporting who.

I'd also begin a petition to assign vote counting to a neutral party and figure out a way to count votes which is not ambiguous (just like the president).  Without fair elections, nothing will matter and it's just a matter of time that the worst case scenario happens. 

Neuter lobby groups if it is at all possible.  Protect the heroes.  Begin taking a look at food storage for the US population in event of a food shortage. 

We can probably thank Aaron for uncensored internet. 


RIP Aaron Swartz

Good Luck Everyone. (edited and fixed typos/add link)  Rosa Koire is a forensic real estate appraiser who specializes in eminent domain.  She has retired and has dedicated herself to this cause. 

MickV's picture

Obama is not eligible to be President. A2S1C4 stipulates that "no person but a natural born Citizen...shall be President". It is a security measure, designed to assure, to the highest degree possible, allegiance and attachment to America in the Commander in Chief of the Armed US forces. Obama has shown explicitly that he possesses little allegiance and attachment to America or its founding principles. He was born British, of a British subject father, Obama Sr., and may indeed be British to this very day. Dual allegiance at birth voids eligibility for the Presidency, as the SCOTUS has defined the term natural born Citizen with precedence in the case Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162, 167 (1874), as one born in the US to US Citizen parents--- where no foreign allegiance exists, by natural law and law of nations. Obama was purposefully put in office by enemies of the US in order to void the US Constitution and US Citizen sovereignty. When there is no legal President then there is no Constitution and no law-- and the criminal treasoners in Congress and their central banker handlers are acting accordingly.



I have filed a legal and proper contest of eligibility in Fla (2012CA 3857), which the Florida judiciary has illegally dismissed and is on appeal. The first step in restoring our stolen sovereignty and Republic is the realization that Obama is not eligible for the office, and to remove that cancer from the body politic. Until that mass realization everything else is just whining.

plata pura's picture

damn fine piece of pamphleteering this be. well scribed indeed.

seataka's picture

Additional info for your consideration:

In 1994 the head of Liberty Lobby, (note3) Willis Carto, told me to my face, with the US Capitol silhouette outside his window, over his shoulder:

"Arnie, you need to understand something." (he jerked his thumb back over his shoulder pointing at the US Congress) and continued: "everything there is for sale."

Even after WWII the Nazi war crime trials...it was the prosecution that prevents evidence of the cultic nature of the Nazi's to be introduced so they would not escape using pleas of insanity.. but was it really for justice? Or was it for something they knew.. that they did not want ever revealed? Was it in pursuit of SILENCE? (note2)

Meanwhile, the Nazi's head of intelligence, Gen. Reinhard Gehlen and all his merry men were hired by John Foster Dullus...while many thousands (Note1)(despite what Wiki claims about 890 rocket scientists) of good nazis were brought to America, given new names by Dr Carroll, (see image) like "brown" .. and given jobs in top us corporations, universities, military intelligence, DIA and the CIA...and the shore story used was "so the Russians won't get their expertise"


(Note1)see http://www.lermanet.com/image/ike50s.jpg

Source: Unpublished interviews by Arnie Lerma with the son (kid in upper right) whose father was Dr Carroll, shown here standing next to the President Eisenhower. Perhaps this was what Eisenhower's farewell to public office speech was about, when he warned America about The Military Industrial Complex.

"we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. " President Dwight D Eisenhower


Note2 - Where the ZI in Nazi came from http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LO5sbwGCR7A

And consider this factoid, the real reason there can not be disclosure of ufo information is patent law. I suspect, that perhaps, even going back to the first transistoir patent, by some guy you never hear about at Bell Labs.. that much of the solid state hi technology 'developments' since the 50's are due to reverse engineering ancient alien technology... and if so, all those patents are fraudulent, and there goes much the net worth of the highest tech companies in the USA...but only if it is disclosed...

"If you want the truth follow the money" Solon 500BC


Without truth you have nothing - seataka

moondog's picture

New Yorkers (all upstate) ARE UP IN ARMS OVER THIS! The problem is that politics in NY is run by the corrupt downstate politicians. Everyone with any sense upstate is planning their exit plan to a southern state. Upstate NY'ers share more in common with their southern bretheren than the neutered sheeple in NYC. We will vote with our feet to a state where we can live as a freeman and not down on our knees. NYC can slide into the ocean as far as I'm concerned....GOOD RIDDANCE!

Casey Stengel's picture

When you get here just remember to never use the phrase "up north we did it this way". Embrace southern culture, forget NY and you'll be just fine.

MrX's picture




No Honour Amongst Thieves:





billsykes's picture

Can I get a nose job to look more Ashkenazi? 

dadichris's picture

Irrational fear of Socialism is driving people to unwittingly embrace Fascism, IMO.

Joebloinvestor's picture

The American public was played for a sucker when I heard,"You have to pass it to read it".


Our government is corrupt and needs an enema.

Falconsixone's picture

Any and all of you Branches of Government members afraid of your masters workings or wish to stop what your doing had better ask for help from the people now or you will be held as your masters minions and dealt with accordingly.

Mad Muppet's picture

The Compleat Police State: Do it for the children!

ebworthen's picture

Most important point in the article for me:

" Fascism also happened in Nazi Germany because the taxpayers became responsible for the debts of big corporations,..."

Westcoastliberal's picture

GW as always prescient and spot-on.  Thank you for truth-telling while we are still allowed.  Unfortunately many of us can see the handwriting on the wall.  The only good news I can bring is I'm seeing more and more articles like this are appearing online:


And if you haven't watched this video, please set aside some time to hear what this Woman has to divulge; she's one of the few who've been through the "rabbit hole" and has returned mostly unscathed:


NuYawkFrankie's picture

"...the Truth too complicated and dangerous..." - US Govt.

"...the Truth will set you free". New Testament, John 8:32


Take your pick.

BringOnTheAsteroid's picture

The New Testament - the real bible right Frankie. I enjoy reading Zero Hedge until some dumb cunt starts quoting the bible. It's been done before, at least do something original for fucks sake.

tetsujin's picture

Yeah.. c'mon.. the bible? bronze age superstition? more mind control?


walcott's picture

 90%+ of the American population is completly brain dead and or retared. That's reality.

JPMorgan's picture

More like they would implicate themselves if told the public the truth.

Yeah it's for greater good... etc. 

kchrisc's picture

Can I pick the salute? That Nazi one was really cool. It said "hi" and "heil" at the same time. I'm leaning toward the Mo salute from the Three Stoges.

ebworthen's picture

The Roman salute, fist to chest then fist extended; combination of Imperial Rome, Black Power, and Heil Hitler.

Money 4 Nothing's picture
"U.S. Government Claims – Just Like the Nazis – that the Truth Is Too Complicated and Dangerous to Disclose to the Public"


Hence the reason they would like your guns sooner than later. 

Not Too Important's picture

The sudden rush for guns is the growning awareness of the imment widespread death and destruction from the Japanese nuclear radiation. Hundreds of millions of gun owners soon to realize their lives are going to be cut short by gross mismanagement by GE, and the US government covering it all up.

How mad will you be when you and your kids get rad cancer? When your friends just drop from cardiac rad muscle destruction? We in the US are straight downwind from the biggest man-made disaster in the history of this planet.



lakecity55's picture

"Comrade Medvedev, tell Comrade Vladimir I will haff seized power after party stages next "election."

I will then haff what Imperialists call "flexibility." I will continue with KGB plan to disarm yankee nuclear weapons.

They will fall into our hands like an overripe fruit."

"Da, Comrade Ozinski. You are truly the son of our best Agent, Comrade Davis. I will communicate this to Comrade Putin. After the running dog americans are defeated, you will no doubt receive new Order of Lenin. You are the embodiment of the "Sword and Shield" of the Party.


Son of Loki's picture

Hey George, I was wondering what the radiation reading is for all that snow coating Japan. Any numbers on that?

Random_Robert's picture

National Socialism (The leftist "progressive" platform)....  or Socialized Nationalism (Neo-Conservative platform)

Fascism underpins both extremes -  It does not matter which extreme the pendulum swings toward- once the corporate mentality owns and controls the process of public discourse, the rules (and beneficial effects) of personal accountability are lost until the entire fucking system crashes and burns.



MOLONAABE's picture

§  "Beware the leader who bangs the
drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for
patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as
it narrows the mind.

And when the drums of war have reached a fever
pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will
have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights
unto the leader and gladly so.

How do I know? For this is what I have
done. And I am Caesar."

--- Julius Caesar???---

joego1's picture

President decrees new weapons trafficking laws- Sir you have weapons in your trunk. Yes officer, I'm going to the range. Do you have a federal weapons transfer day permit with you today? no officer. Please step out of the car and put your hands on the hood. Why do have over 500 cash? I have to pay the ammo tax at the range.....

aerojet's picture

We'll be fighting in the streets before we even get to that point.  The bullshit going on in NY State might trigger a revolt as it stands even now.

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot's picture

I haven't heard much complaining out of NY. Do you have any info? Seems like they might take it lying down.

Citxmech's picture

That's the impression I've been getting too (of course that may be a product of most of the "news" coming from the NYT).

That thing about 7rnd mags is complete BS.

Husk-Erzulie's picture

The ridiculous aspect of this whole Obama/Biden/Braindead "Progressive Liberal" shit show is that, as usual, the knee jerk overreaction is painfully behind the curve.  Its only relevance is political.  It has less than zero to do with tools and technology.   Progressive, regressive, reactionary... what's in a word?  Political grandstanding and mental masturbation.



As with the most basic economic history and theory; I sincerely doubt whether there is one single douchbag in congress or on Obongwater's team of mental Olympians, who understands the profound implications of 3d printing.  Gamechanging tecnology Bitchez.... It's what's for dinner.

Go Tribe's picture

At what point is everything so regulated and controlled that our entire life experience is designed by the government? We lay in bed in the morning on sheets that are woven in a way that meets government standards, on beds designed in the same fashion, breathing air that contains government-specified quantities of particles. We rise and put on clothes defined by government regulation, eat breakfast foods by the same structures, wipe our asses with paper created from government-defined manufacturing processes and contents, etc etc.

Is ANYTHING in our lives 100% free of government????

Omen IV's picture

The NYPD will start tackling prescription drug abuse with GPS tracked prescription bottles.

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly will unveil a four part process to combating prescription drug abuse in New York City when he speaks at the Clinton Health Matters Conference later today in California.

“We’re also distributing so-called ‘bait bottles’ containing placebo Oxycodone pills to be placed on pharmacy shelves,” Kelly said according to planned remarks.

These bottles will be equipped with a GPS tracking device that the police can use to follow the bottle and possibly locate “stash locations.”

hannah's picture

those nazis had some cool looking unforms....they be stylin.

KingTut's picture

Absolutely, and it's not an accident.  The whole Nazi marketing campaign, from the logo (Swastika) to the incredible rallies, unforms and architecture, the whole thing was meant to inspire.  Why is it that 8 year boys still carve swatikas into the school desks?

Husk-Erzulie's picture

carve swatikas into the school desks?

Quick trip to a prozac lobotomy these days.... in a state school, that is.

Praetorian Guard's picture

Designed by the best: Hugo Boss...

OccupyTVstations's picture

Hey GW,

Did you know comments are cnesored at your website? I've left several comments over the last year, each time it posts (I can see comment-12345 in the url) but it never shows up on the blog.  Do you have 'helpers'? Thought you ought to know.




Perhaps the reason my posts are censored is because I dare to suggest we do something about this BS government. How about we stop documenting all the ways they are screwing us, and we start thinking about solutions.

THE ANSWER = Take Back the Media. The media is the truth filter, where any real truth is eliminated before mass consumption. Without the lying media, none of these crimes would have been possible.

Occupy protesters had great points to make, truths to espouse, but the media just labelled them angry youth that had no goals... angry youth break windows and smell funny. Not once did the media ever honestly discuss the MBS robosigner 'settlement' gift package.

If the general public knew about the $trillion MBS super-scamorama, blankfein's head would be on a pike by the end of the day. He and Dimon and other criminals walk free because Americans that know, continue to wait for some savior. Because coint3lpr0 minders infiltrate EVERY occupy movement- not just one, but a small group of minders... so they can direct the crowd to a safe vent... away from the tv stations. "Join our media outreach team, put it in writing, wait til next meeting, etc" are common stall tactics real Americans ought to be aware of- and don't buy it. Why wait? Why form a committee? To stall!!!! that's all the minders have, stall stall, stall combined with groupthink.... well if there are 5 of them telling me to join the committee, maybe that's best... for the nazi bastards!

Imagine what we could do if 10k Occupy protesters stopped following the Michael Moores and John Nichols (fake leaders) and instead marched to Rockefeller Center on a Sunday Morning where a dozen crooked politicians are spouting their bullshit.  If those occupiers brought a laptop with gripping youtube footage and a projector to play for the cops, then some of the cops will understand and join us... at which point we storm the studio, punch david gregory and other complicit mofos in the face, take over the broadcast and tell America what these crooks have really done.

George Washington's picture

I don't censor at my site.  I switched to the Disqus comment system a couple of months ago, and am not sure what they do on the back end there ...

AnAnonymous's picture

Ah, thanks. Some good laughters.

The very fact 'americans' keep cramming up in theatres to see their humourless comedy movies while they, 'americans' are so funny is another proof of the 'american' dedication to the 'american' duty of consumption.

From a 'american' propagandist author who already milked several times the topic of social media censorship.


akak's picture

Behold the hypocritizenism and monolizing of the speeching means of George Dishwashingtonymous!

Why is it your beloved Chinese Communist regime that overtly censors the internet to its subjects?  No 'american' authority does so in any way (at least for the fabled present).

Hypocritizenism, thy name is Chinese citizenism.